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It will take some time before we get everything. It looks like Batman will remain the flagship for the DC line, but I can see them putting focus on other characters as time goes by and other properties get major movies out. Same with Marvel. For some of them, it's all in the timing.
From a more practical standpoint, Nolan messed up big time with villain choice in squandering The Joker in the second film, leaving himself nothing to utlilize in the denouement.
All that said, I'm sure it will make tons of money... just not as much as The Avengers or The Dark Knight.
To bring this all back on point, though, I'd actually prefer they avoid the film universes altogether. I realize this is a pipe-dream due to the lucrative nature of the tie-in... but the comics obviously have a much richer history to draw from... and I really want my Sentinel set, preferably complete with Gambit, Rogue and Cyclops.
On a mostly unrelated note... that Nick Fury minifig doesn't leave me very hopeful for a proper Gambit... though if they wanted to do an AoA version, I'd be cool with that, too.
First off, yes, The Avengers did amazing but TDKR is predicted to set all sorts of box office records. Many critics have seen and reviewed TDKR already, and many have said that it has a high chance of winning a "Best Picture" award at the Oscars.
I personally am a huge Batman enthusiast and the trailer looks amazing! Just because Heath Ledger isn't in TDKR doesn't mean that tickets aren't going to sell. Many fans and critics were against the idea of Heath Ledger being the Joker in The Dark Knight because they didn't think he had the acting ability. He starred in movies such as The Patriot, Brokeback Mountain, and A Knight's Tale which demonstrated no Joker qualities. The Dark Knight blew box office records away anyway because it's a Batman movie and that's why TDKR is going to be yet another epic Nolan movie that WILL beat The Avengers. Why? Because it's a Batman movie. Everybody loves Batman. Well, except maybe you.
I respect your opinion, y2josh but do some research. The Dark Knight Rises, the final movie to Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy, will be phenomenal.
As for the 2013 superhero LEGO minifigures that were introduced, I am personally very excited for the licensed TDKR set that will come out. Bane looks superb as well as Commissioner Gordon.
I don't think they'll make any more sets from The Avengers theme. The Nick Fury minifig is from The Ultimate Spider-Man t.v. series. He's a popular character from the t.v. show and the minifig looks just like the Ultimate Spider-Man Nick Fury and nothing like The Avengers Nick Fury.
I do agree with y2josh, that we do need a Sentinel set with Gambit, Rogue, Cyclops, Beast, and Storm. I would also like to see a masked Wolverine and hope they release the Phoenix minifigs in a set. We need more X-Men LEGOs!
7888 was fantastic, but when I look at 6864 I'm depressed...
The best option is to release TDKR set as an exlcusive one (which will never happen).
And then it shuld contain whole scene with Bat Something
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I would love, LOVE a camo tumbler!
I think the Avengers over performed, Marvel expected a big fan base buyin but as the film was just so much fun it picked up an even larger audience. With the TDKR we are looking at the culmination of 7-8 years work building upto this momment. Nolan et al have promised a firm ending here and hat here is the inevitable talk of a prefect trilogy, but as no one is aloud to publish yet we will wait and see, not sure about Oscar's though. My guess is that the TDKR will out do the Avengers, they are totally different beasts and being based on comic books is about all they have in common.
On the Lego front (so on topic) the tumbler would be great, but I do only think there will be one set for this film. 2013 will be upgrades on older Batman sets (which i am happy about) and new Spiderman sets. Sorry but I doubt we will see too much beyond that, but they squeezed in an X-men set this year so maybe there will be another next? I do hope so.
On Lego topic, I have also heard about the Camo Tumbler set upcoming. But DC Super Heroes sets in my opinion were not that good then the old Batman 1 theme. They were more darker as Batman really is. I still smile thinking how crazy I went trying to get the Killer Croc set and was lucky enough to buy 2 of each of the Batman 1 theme sets. Still looking for the previous Arkham Asylum set as its amazing. I think the new one will be released with respect to the minifigures we have seen i.e. Ivy, Mr Freeze, Bane, Scarecrow...lets see...
Sorry, my eyes cannot stop rolling around in my head like a slot machine in Las Vegas during a Slot Machine Marathon weekend. I could not disagree more with that. Nicholson was too PG for me, and when we are dealing with socio-paths and pyshco's, well I prefer mine to be demented. Not Jolly! Keaton was just horrible, think he took too many pointers from Val. Bale is great, his voice as Batman is bar none the best.
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I like the new line up. The figures are improving all the time. I am excited to see what they will do for the new exclusives for next year.
All that being said, I've doubted Christopher Nolan before and ever regretted it.
Memento
Insomnia
Batman Begins
The Prestige
The Dark Knight
Inception
I absolutlely love each and every one of the above films and am sure I'll love TDKR and Man of Steel (story).
On another note, I liked Burton's Batman movies, even in spite of loathing the character. They were dark enough to feel slightly edgy while still keeping the intrinsic absurdity of a grown man dressed as a bat completely intact. I don't disagree with Ledger being better than Nicholson... though Nicholson actually played The Joker, whereas Ledger was in a Joker costume while essentially playing 'generic Gotham thug.' I'm not taking away from his performance, though. He elevated an entirely forgettable movie well into the realm of mediocrity. But let's all be serious here... Mark Hamill is the best Joker.
@Yellowcastle - Interestingly enough, you just listed the exact six films I use as the basis for my argument that Christopher Nolan is, perhaps, the only director alive who, if given the opportunity, could damage Star Wars worse than George Lucas. To each their own, though.
P.S. TDKR is also the third part of a trilogy... and there hasn't been a trilogy with a satisfying final act since 1989.
Granted, I'm not much for Insomnia, but it's hard to find someone that doesn't like at least 1 or 2 of those movies.
This may only be one review, but it is a big one...
Anyway, I'm looking forward to see how Tom Hardy does as Bane. Guy has been excellent in everything I've seen him in, and I'm interested to see how he'll do in this role.
As for Heath Ledger being Joker, the reason why he won an Oscar for being best supporting actor was because he took the Joker role and made it into something of his own. It was remarkable really, to see someone take a comic book character that's existed for so many years and to make it into something even better. You can't even compare Heath Ledger to Alan Moore's or Frank Miller's Jokers because he's simply not like them. That's what makes an extraordinary actor and that's why he won an academy award.
When it comes down to it though, it all depends on the director. TDKR will be an amazing movie because Christopher Nolan is directing. Batman (1989) and Batman Returns were amazing because Tim Burton directed them. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin were awful movies because Joel Schumacher directed them. X-Men and X2 were amazing because Bryan Singer directed them. X3 was awful because Bret Ratner directed it. Simple pattern... Batman is indeed dark and that's why, in my opinion, the older sets were 10 times better. I guess you would identify Batman not being so dark because you haven't read the comic books. He's a very dark superhero if you think about it though. His parents were murdered cold blood right in front of him when he was just a boy. He trained with the league of shadows and he became what frightened him most--a bat. If you ask me, that's pretty dark.
Not to be a negative Nancy but I don't really like where LEGO is going with the batman series. I bought the Batcave 6860 and the Batwing 6863 because I missed out on them but they're just going too Batman 1960s and Batman Joel Schumacher for me. The new Two-Face looks just like the Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face and Batman's got a ridiculous red phone in his Batcave just like the bat phone from the 1960s. Oh well. I like Batman anyways and I will most likely be buying all of them for next year because I want that Mr. Freeze minifig, an Arkham Asylum, and the the new TDKR set.
I'm sorry, my last post was very long but no worries, the Batman series will continue. WB has been talking on the low-down of making a Justice League of America film or a Batman Beyond film. My guess is they want to make a JLA film because Avengers did so well but Christian Bale said this would be his last time as Batman so they'll have to find a new Bruce Wayne. Christopher Nolan also said that he'd produce it if WB made it. I really hope they make a Batman Beyond live-action film though because I grew up watching that show and a futuristic Batman on the big screen would be brilliant!
Actually the discussion about the DK Batman book above makes me realise that it's essentially dated before it's been released now. I'll still get it though undoubtedly.
Also, I feel I should point out that Batman is 6'2". The only screen Batman to meet the height requirement is Adam West, so don't be doing down the 60s series! ;)
To get vaguely back on topic, I'm not wildly keen on the idea of TDKR Lego sets. I'm still baffled as to how TDK got a 12 certificate. The whole feel was so dark and oppresive, it just doesn't seem like a good fit for cutesy minifigures. Whereas the 60s TV show...
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/early-reviews-dark-knight-rises-bane-high-marks-173841016.html
Some more reviews rolling in.
/endrant
All that aside, I still have no doubts it will make hordes of money, I just don't expect it to top The Avengers or even its predecessor.
Also... LEGO sure is great, huh?
@y2josh I loved the Avengers a lot, but I don't see how you can compare the two movies fairly. Perhaps you just don't like Batman as a character or his storyline in terms of style or taste? But for quality of movie/direction/ cinematography, I don't see the same flaws you do. One is plot driven (Batman) and the other is eye candy for the masses (Avengers). Simply for the fact that the Batman series had a script and not just good quips melted with gorgeous action sequence cinematography & CGI. Did Thor say anything at all worth a damn considering the main villain was his brother? Not really. But I can still remember Bale's face as he was prepared to gun down his parents' murderer only for the chance to be stolen away. Those are the moments you remember in a deep way.
Nolan's films have been my favorite Batman movies thus far but the Batman character is not at all batman beside the mask and gadgets-- Batman's basics were forgotten. These new movies I watched were a Ras Al Ghul/Scarecrow movie and a Joker movie. That's what makes these 'better'. Batman in Batman & Robin is more Batman then in these movies, however, comparatively B+R just wasn't a good movie.
There are a lot of Batmans out there and am glad Lego is willing to touch on the different types. And I really can't wait until they print the lesser known characters in both DC and Marvel universes.
I think we'll have the Superhero line up for a good few years
Looks like we won't know who comes out (TDKR or The Avengers) on top until after this weekend.