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2023 Modular Rumours, Leaks and Speculation

BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
Although it is very early, there's nothing wrong with starting the discussion now.

Here's what we know:

  • The 2023 modular will be a 'straight' modular, as we had a corner modular this year. There is a possibility it will be a semi-corner style like the Diner and Parisian Restaurant, however personally I don't think Lego will go with anything too unusual straight after this year's very unique shape.

  • It is highly unlikely it will be a library or art gallery, since we very recently had a bookshop (which is very similar to a library) and the small art gallery with the hotel this year. A library or art gallery could be possible future modulars however.
Here's what I think:

3 main possibilities: Hospital, Post Office, Restaurant.

Many of us (self included) would love a modular hospital. I also think there is a decent possibility it will be the next modular due to the following reason:

The past couple of modulars have been a police station and a hotel, both ideas people have been asking for for a long time and which a modular town needs. It is possible Lego will continue 'ticking off' important buildings, then move onto more unique ideas.

However, I actually believe the 2023 modular will not be a hospital (I hope I'm wrong), because this year's modular was a large, expensive set where the subject matter (hotel) took up the vast majority of the build.
A hospital would be very similar to this, big, expensive, and likely taking up most or the entirety of the baseplate and pieces. Therefore, I don't think Lego would do another big, expensive, 'full subject matter' modular straight away. A hospital is also closely related to emergency services, and we've just had a police station too.

Which brings me to the next possibility. Going on from my reason for a modular hospital, a post office is another modular idea that we need and many people have asked for. If Lego does continue it's trend of making all the important types of buildings, then a post office is very likely.
Furthermore, Lego often does multiple businesses in one modular and we are roughly up to the cycle of a commercial/general business modular, so a post office, along with any number of other types of businesses or accommodation would be quite possible. I don't think Lego would devote an entire modular to a post office.

Finally, again looking at cycles, there is a rough 4 year cycle for a 'food related modular'. (Eg PR in 2014 and DD in 2018). This year Lego chose to make a hotel for the anniversary, and it is very likely they will return to the food modular trend in 2023. Therefore I would argue a restaurant modular is likely as that would also work really well with the Boutique Hotel.

Personally I'd like a fancy Italian restaurant. I'd also argue this is reasonably likely (if they do make a restaurant), given how popular Italian cuisine (especially pizza) is with The Lego Group, and many countries also have Italian restaurants (especially America) so it would be popular all round. Lego could do a southern Italian/general Mediterranean (eg Greek, Croatian etc.) restaurant, which would also work really well with the Boutique Hotel.

An Asian restaurant (I use that term to refer to all the different possibilities) will likely be a modular one day, however I think 'Asian' (again referring broadly) architecture and colours would clash too much with the Boutique Hotel. Yes, cities often have very different types of buildings next to one another, but I don't think the soft pink 'flesh' colour, sand green and general European/Mediterranean style of the hotel would look right next to lots of bright red and black colours, tiled roofs etc.

A Viennese coffee house would work well next to the hotel and be a unique idea, however that is merely an idea of mine, not a likely possibility.

Which brings me to an important point; everything above is NOT a 'wishlist', it is my arguments for and against what I believe to be the most likely candidates for the next modular. In fact, if the choice were entirely mine I would want a hospital to be the next modular however I believe that is unlikely to happen.

One of the other types of modulars people always ask for is a museum. This is definitely something that would be on my 'wishlist', but I think is highly unlikely to be the next modular because 1. The size/cost of building problems I mentioned regarding a hospital and 2. The type of architecture a museum would have has already been covered in the police station and hotel (especially colours like tan, nougat and white). Lego could do a modern museum but I strongly believe a Lego modular museum would have at least some of it in a traditional Classical architecture style and most likely using tan.

Below is an idea and not a likely possibility.

A modular I'd like to see is a music related modular. That could be a concert hall, opera house, dance hall, jazz club, any number of options. We've also got a proper violin piece and lute piece now along with printed piano keys. A dance hall could go on the second or third floor of a modular (maybe even with a built in feature to make the couples spin around), while a jazz club would make another nice Prohibition era modular like Detective's Office.
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  • Weepy_DonutsWeepy_Donuts Greenville, SCMember Posts: 31
    The community board outside of the Boutique Hotel references several previous modular buildings, but also… “Live at the Music Hall - Andy Sax”
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  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    @Weepy_Donuts Yes that is very true. I really hope it means something!

    Maybe if not 2023 then in the future, after all Mike Psaki said "We need a hotel!" in the Downtown Diner designer video (which was 2018) and then we got the hotel 4 years later.
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,096
    I'm not holding my breath for a 'Hardware Store/Post Office/Music Club'...

    But I will declare my clairvoyance if it happens.
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  • windjammerwindjammer Newcastle, UKMember Posts: 60
    I'm still hoping for a railway station. Or even better, a subway station.

    Brickchap
  • Russell844Russell844 California, USAMember Posts: 2,310
    As usual, I want a post office or a proper newspaper publisher.
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,096
    As usual, I want a post office or a proper YouTube Channel Content Producer Studio.
    This is more likely.  Maybe a nice Linus Tech Tips or Mr. Beast crossover...
  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    @SumoLego They wouldn't do anything modern like that. It's like an Apple Store, it would clash way too much with previous modulars, plus the Lego modulars tend to be generic, whereas Youtube and Apple are licenses/real world entities.

    A newspaper publisher or just a newsagency would be really cool, and quite possible. I still argue Post Office is the most likely though.
  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    @windjammer These are great ideas and I'd definitely like to see a train station!

    Subway station (or rather just the entrance to one) would be a nice sidewalk detail, my only concern would be how much space would be needed to fit it.

    In regards to a train station, as I say I'd love to see one, but I doubt we will get one in 2023, as it is another BEFBM (big, expensive, full baseplate modular), which we just got with the hotel.

    The problem of the track remains as well, personally I think it would probably be best just to build the platform right to the end of the baseplate and then let fans put railway track up against the baseplate. I wonder if they would include tracks?

    Highly unlikely this year or in 2023, but I would love to see a modular train station and Creator Expert steam passenger train released in the same year around the same time, allowing fans to have both a detailed, working train with a complete, detailed, ornate station.
    (rather than just the same copy paste passenger train and 6x12 plate with some yellow tiles on it that they call a 'station')

    I feel like that would sell very well, as you would have fans who would buy one or the other, plus those (like me) who would buy both (so more profit for Lego). It would be a nice recognition of the many many Lego train fans that do still exist (plus the many current non-Lego fans who are train enthusiasts), and a great addition to many people's cities.
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,096
    Brickchap said:
    They wouldn't do anything modern like that.
    I really need a sarcasm button.

    Although, I don't know how long LEGO will stick to this pseudo-50's/60's era with the modulars.  I know they try to be content-neutral and controversy-adverse, but I can see some headline/clickbait public activist group criticizing LEGO for celebrating a 'problematic' era.
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  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    @SumoLego haha fair enough, sarcasm is hard to spot on the internet.

    Personally I really hope Lego sticks with the vintage era and I do think they will. I wouldn't say the modulars are 1960s yet though, it's a general 1930s-1950s era, with some sets being more specific (like Detective's Office which is the 1920s/1930s Prohibition era or Downtown Diner which is clearly the 1950s).

    You are very correct about "some headline/clickbait public activist group criticizing LEGO for celebrating a 'problematic' era". I am so sick and tired of those silly people. Nevertheless I don't think lego would have a problem with their general 1930s-1950s era stuff, after all it's just random buildings like banks, restaurants and hotels.

    If people did complain I'd point out (and hopefully Lego would argue) that every era is controversial. I mean, if someone makes something set in the present day people could complain it somehow supports Russia's invasion of Ukraine or celebrates the Covid pandemic or something.
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  • MattDawsonMattDawson Solihull, UKMember Posts: 1,420
    The biggest/most noticable things missing so far are:
    •  anything medical (outside of a tiny dentist in Assembly Square)
    • post office
    • generic manufacturing/office building
    • Anything with a transport other than road vehicles
    • a bar or pub (very unlikely due to alcohol)
    • municipal buildings (outside of a very time limited Town Hall)

    Now, having a glance at the previous modulars, we normally get a vehicle every 4 or 5 years - this year it was a GWP, but excluding that next year being a post office with a mail van would seem the most likely.
    Brickchap
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,796
    edited April 17
    ^Couldn't the pool hall in the Detective Office be considered part of a bar or a pub? I the US a lot of bars have pool tables.
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  • sweetness34sweetness34 San Diego, CA.Member Posts: 375
    Every year I hope for a hospital with an old timey ambulance, maybe someday my wish will be granted. 

    I bought a couple of extra corner garages to use to build the hospital on rebrickable at some point. 
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  • scottdd2scottdd2 ADELAIDEMember Posts: 145
    SumoLego said:
    Brickchap said:
    They wouldn't do anything modern like that.
    I really need a sarcasm button.

    Although, I don't know how long LEGO will stick to this pseudo-50's/60's era with the modulars.  I know they try to be content-neutral and controversy-adverse, but I can see some headline/clickbait public activist group criticizing LEGO for celebrating a 'problematic' era.
    /s at the end of the text signifies sarcasm. Stumbled across it just the other day.
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  • MattDawsonMattDawson Solihull, UKMember Posts: 1,420
    gmonkey76 said:
    ^Couldn't the pool hall in the Detective Office be considered part of a bar or a pub? I the US a lot of bars have pool tables.
    I would say it counts as socialisation (bar sports) but it lacks the bar itself. So probably more like a snooker club than some parlour games put on to appease guests. :)
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  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    @MattDawson Some really good ideas and all true. We can rule out a bar or pub, but you had every right to mention it.

    Very true about medical. A GPs surgery would be great, as would a chemist.

    Question for everyone: Do people think a chemist would be too controversial for Lego? Especially since in America you literally call them Drug Stores and there may be concerns about drugs being depicted in a Lego set even though they are prescription.  There's also that whole minority in society that whinge about pharmaceutical medicine and so forth. Personally I don't see a problem but you can never tell thesedays.

    A modular factory would be an interesting idea. I don't think Lego would ever do a specific office block, however it is possible, and I would love to see, a collection of offices included as the upper floors of a modular.

    Ideas of mine for such a space include:
    • solicitors office
    • architect's office
    • typing pool (with lots of typewriters)
    • switchboard (with ladies with headphones and a switchboard)
    • accountant's office (maybe belonging to the accountant staying at the Boutique Hotel)
    I'd love to see more old vehicles in the modulars. I know many people hate them but I will always maintain that they add, not detract, from the overall set and plenty of modulars have not included vehicles but still been lacking.
     
    For example Bookstore should have had more bookshelves but you can't complain the parts were 'wasted' on a vehicle because there wasn't one. Or the Hotel for example has the art gallery which I my view, and I've seen similar views expressed by others, is also a waste of parts that should have gone into the hotel build. The grey staircase is definitely more parts consuming than it needed to be (why did they even need a random bar up there?). Corner Garage had lots of 1x1 tiles used for greebling that could have been reduced and frankly those who whinged about the tow truck in corner garage are outright daft, it's a friggin garage of course there is going to be at least one vehicle!
    Hence I rest my case that builds can still be lacking regardless of whether a vehicle is included and vehicles should be included where possible & appropriate. (the bookstore didn't need a vehicle but the police station really should have had at least a police motorcycle, preferably a vintage police car, and the Boutique Hotel would been an even better set with that lovely vintage taxi GWP).

    As for ideas, Lego did consider a car dealership/showroom. I'd love to have that and have 2 vintage vehicles in a set. Also, it would mean that the showroom wouldn't need too much detail (as it would be taken up by the cars on display) so that would allow for more detail for the rest of the building.
    There was a great bus station modular up on Ideas with two awesome vintage buses (1950s American and 1930s more rural style one like Bertie in Thomas the Tank Engine).
    I think a vintage bus would be a really nice inclusion in a future modular, we've had a couple of bus stops so far so it would make sense. Also being an 18+ set we might finally see Lego develop some form of realistic bus doors rather than just train doors or house doors.

    There are various vehicles that could work really well with the modulars, like a milk van (that could just be a small 4 wide build similar to Lego's tuk tuk style builds), baker's cart, newspaper van, repair van (perhaps something is broken in a house) etc. etc.

    I think you are very correct to point out the likelihood of a post office with a vintage mail van being the 2023 modular!

    If Lego does make a post office I will be really pissed off if it doesn't include a mail van or at least a postman's bicycle or motorcycle. It would make no sense having a post office but no way to deliver the mail.

    It won't cause another covid variant simply by including a vehicle, and to be honest I often find those that whinge and rant about vehicles ruining modular sets also complain about interiors, so if the parts aren't going to interior detail (which in the case of a vehicle usually only means one less rug or seat which is barely missed), and they aren't going to a vehicle, then where do these fools want the parts to go?? Others might disagree but I've always found the modular exterior detail to be more than satisfactory.
  • daewoodaewoo DFWMember Posts: 770
    I'm hoping for a gentlemen's club.  wink wink....nudge nudge.....say no more!
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  • pxchrispxchris Oregon, USAMember Posts: 2,020

    Fun retrospective on the entire Modular line from Jamie.
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  • wardmwardm BelgiumMember Posts: 856
    I really like Jamie, he is an amazing designer with a big hearts and he does very well in those videos. So cool to see all the modulars combined. And I guess we can finally end the “is Market Street a modular?”-debate! 
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  • autolycusautolycus US-SEMember Posts: 1,288
    Cymbeline said:
    The "is Market Street a Modular" debate will never die - it's tradition!
    It’ll die exactly one year after the “Is it a UCS set?” debate dies for the many sets that are debated among Lego SW fans.
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  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    Market St is an officially recognised modular, although to be fair you could argue The Daily Bugle is a modular building because it has the modular style sidewalk and connection pins. Since it came under Lego Factory personally I wouldn't consider it a modular, it would be like if there was a modular style building released under Ideas, it would be an Ideas set, not a formal modular.

    My main gripe with Market St though is I just don't like it. It's not bad but it just isn't too the level of other modular buildings and I never understood the empty space to the left. Surely they could have fleshed out the market a bit more?

    I wonder if Lego would ever do a proper market street like a market square with lots of stalls, sort of like Winter Village Market?
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  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,214
    Cymbeline said:
    The "is Market Street a Modular" debate will never die - it's tradition!
    We can move on to: Is The LEGO Store Modular a Modular, and is the Modular Under Construction a Modular debate.

    https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/designer-sets-for-adult-fans-of-lego/215728/Modular-LEGO-Store

    https://www.bricklink.com/r3/designer-program/designer-sets-for-adult-fans-of-lego/215744/Modular-Construction-Site


    Brickchap
  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    I'm surprised we haven't had a Lego store in a modular yet, not necessarily a big one like The LEGO Store Modular, but just a small shop as apart of a building like Assembly Square. It would be really cool if they did a 1930s-1950s era Lego store (with wooden toys and the original logo).

    A construction site modular would be another great addition, even if not like the Under Construction fan design.

    I built a MOC 1950s construction site (which focused on the vehicles), with a 1949 International bulldozer, steamroller, 1940s/50s truck, 1950s grader and a 1940s truck with a crane on the back. It was specifically designed to work with the new road plates, which allowed me to have a height difference between the road and pavement and the dirt area.

    An official construction side could make another good split modular, with one half 'complete' and the other half under construction, sort of like Pet Store except one side would have scaffolding, maybe piles of dirt, cement pouring area etc.

    (what's the name of those metal grilles they put down and then pour cement over the top?)

    I'd love to see some vintage construction workers with old style hard hats (I coloured the regular hard hat in silver), some with shirts off, sweat on their faces, some eating lunch on top of a high beam, wheeling wheelbarrows, digging with shovels (as opposed excavators), carrying pieces of wood or steel on their shoulder etc.

    *Note: Sincere apologies for the underlining everywhere, I bumped something and have no idea how to fix it. I've looked on all the options above but can't find anything.
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,214
    ^ It's OK, we forgive you.
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  • Gibbo1959Gibbo1959 Northumbria UKMember Posts: 490
    Damn, it’s spreading… (actually uncheck the Bold Italic Underline options on your screen keyboard.
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  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    @SumoLego Yeah I bumped some button and yes there is no underline button on the forum so I had no idea how to fix the problem. It eventually righted itself, unfortunately after I'd posted the comment.

    I do hope people actually read my comment instead of it being overshadowed by technical difficulties :(   (not complaining about people here, just lamenting at the fact I wrote all that and now people will ignore it)
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  • GrannyLEGOGrannyLEGO FloridaMember Posts: 330
    Just to relieve your mind ... I did read your post underline and all.
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  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,214
    edited April 26
    I also read your post.

    @Brickchap: What is rebar
    I like your thinking; rebar would look great.



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  • asherkobinasherkobin Member Posts: 190
    My main reason of commenting here is to suggest/hope that Lego abandons baseplates for modulars. It's been 15 years, time to think about this. Are we going to have the same format for 10-20 more years? Baseplates are flimsy and difficult to clean or keep clean (whether the modular is displayed or in parts). Modern City and City/Creator use regular plates and/or the new road plates. I am sure the creative geniuses at Lego can find a good way to move away from 32x32 baseplates. That way they can abandon the constraints of that footprint. It may need to be a new system and I'm fine with that. Not many people connect the current modulars or even have the room to do so. Only display scene builders do this regularly and they certainly can find a way to adapt.

    Perhaps this should be discussed in its own thread.

    PS: I just read the first few posts and a Hospital sounds great to me. By freeing themselves from the 32x32 footprint, they can create an emergency ambulance side entrance for example.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Near ManchesterMember Posts: 4,228
    No. Just no.
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  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    @asherkobin Thanks for commenting and bringing up this interesting discussion point! I'm happy to discuss this here or you're welcome to start another thread. :)

    I agree this is a conversation that the Lego community, and most certainly Lego itself, needs to have. Personally I'm not against changing, but it would require a reasonable effort on Lego's part.

    This can be done in a few steps:

    1. Commitment: In order to even consider changing the modular standard, Lego needs to formally commit to the new road system. Too many times I've seen Lego or other companies create a new system of some sort, force everyone to change, and then abandon the whole thing before it's even fully developed. I'm not saying that's going to happen here, but it they need to commit. This also means developing a corner piece for the road system. I'm very surprised they haven't done so yet.

    2. Application: If Lego is committed, they then need to apply a wide range of plate designs. I would want to see 32x32 plates in regular green, blue, tan, white, light blue-ish grey, dark blue-ish grey plus any new or specific colours needed for modulars (like reddish brown for example). They could also develop 16x32 plates, although these aren't essential.
    Now in regards to modulars I'm assuming that's how they would change. I think 32x32 plates would be the easiest and most effective update, and one that would benefit the entire System of Play; not just modulars. For modulars specifically, Lego could keep doing what they've always done, just build the modular on a plate rather than a baseplate.

    3. Compatibility: This is the hard part. It's easy to build a modular on a 32x32 plate. What's hard is making that compatible with previous modulars. I completely agree with you that most people don't actually connect their modulars, but the whole point of the 'Modular Collection' is that they are compatible so Lego should fix it. Perhaps they could make a special piece that allows the height adjustment, that way a technic pin could work whether the modular is on a regular plate or a baseplate. Alternatively, they could release some sort of official 'fix' for raising the modulars, whether it be a special piece that fits underneath baseplates, a piece of cardboard designed to the specific height, or some other solution. Yes, people have come up with their own solutions, but since Lego caused the problem, they should fix it. This would be paramount if they change the modulars. After all, it would be very obvious the difference between 'old' and 'new' modulars.

    With that point I will return to the original theme of this thread. What will the 2023 modular be? I'd argue it is very likely we will see a change in the modular standard in 2023. This is because of the timing. Corner buildings tend to 'end' a specific street, and have often ushered in a new style of architecture or building techniques. Therefore, since we had a corner this year, it would make sense to start afresh in 2023 with a new street, a new straight modular, and a new system. To change in 2024 (the second straight modular) would be just weird. They could change in 2025, a round number and a new corner building.

    As for your thoughts, I'm happy you also support a hospital. A side entrance for ambulances would be good, although by that I assume you would mean a 32x32 plate for the main building, and then maybe a couple of 8x8 plates as a side assembly that can be attached via technic pins to the side? That could work.
    Personally I would keep the 32x32 standard (just change to plates) for official modular buildings, but I would then encourage Lego to sell separate sets as apart of the 'Modular Collection' like parks, alleyways, squares, carparks, markets etc. etc. which would be set on smaller plates but have technic pins and the modular grey sidewalk, white lamppost etc. standard as 'add on' packs.
  • sweetness34sweetness34 San Diego, CA.Member Posts: 375
    I use these cardboard pieces under my Modulars to raise them to the level of the newer road system 
    Brickchap
  • BooTheMightyHamsterBooTheMightyHamster Northern edge of London, just before the dragons...Member Posts: 1,477
    Brickchap said:

    Perhaps they could make a special piece that allows the height adjustment... ...they could release some sort of official 'fix' for raising the modulars... ...a piece of cardboard designed to the specific height.... 
    You know that that would be the most expensive piece of cardboard in history, right?
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  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 5,273

     Not many people connect the current modulars or even have the room to do so. Only display scene builders do this regularly and they certainly can find a way to adapt.
    Many of the pictures people post here seem to refute this.
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  • pvp3020pvp3020 Member Posts: 182
    Not many people connect the current modulars or even have the room to do so. Only display scene builders do this regularly and they certainly can find a way to adapt.
    Most photos of modulars that get posted here and elsewhere show them connected, and of course LEGO themselves show this in their marketing material. I currently have all the modulars from GG up to Boutique Hotel on display, all connected. It takes up almost my entire display area, but looks very cool. BTW I'm not a display scene builder.
    I'm not against replacing baseplates, but first a satisfactory way must be found to keep new buildings compatible with the old ones. Perhaps if LEGO were to produce free, or at least very reasonably priced, adaptor kits for the older sets, then I might be persuaded.
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  • PhoenixioPhoenixio Canada/FranceMember Posts: 191
    I've replaced all baseplates with 16x16 regular plates (using 4 or 6 of them), and so far it's been great.  The modulars are so intricate that those hold really well despite being in multiple pieces, and then it's super easy to use their current road system because regular plates have a proper System thickness.

    But otherwise, spitting on baseplates is like trashing classic Castle or Space: very few old timers will like it since those plates were present since the beginning.

    Not sure I agree on the connecting and displaying modulars though: the building stays the same volume, baseplate or not, so that's not going to make a big difference...  Plus, it's totally badass to connect multiple modulars together, even if it's not the full series.
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  • asherkobinasherkobin Member Posts: 190
    Good discussion. I'll take road plates out of the discussion since it's turning too many people off. I do think the 1/2 road plate has some promise. I feel that the only people that connect their Modulars in a row are people who are sending in pictures. I'm completely guessing that 75% of builders keep them separate or just have 1-2 out at a time. Not many people have "Lego Rooms", etc. Personally I have two out, one on a dresser door and one on a bookshelf. Also, I have all the Modulars except the Garage.

    I really don't know what Lego should change, but I am tired of the 32x32 format, even if plates are used. Why do they have to stack up next to each other anyway? It forces you to display it at a specific direction. Especially corner ones. Again, thing 10 years from now, will it still be the same format?

    PS: My comment is addressed to all the comments posted up to Phoenixio,

    Brickchap said:
    @asherkobin Thanks for commenting and bringing up this interesting discussion point! I'm happy to discuss this here or you're welcome to start another thread. :)

    I agree this is a conversation that the Lego community, and most certainly Lego itself, needs to have. Personally I'm not against changing, but it would require a reasonable effort on Lego's part.

    This can be done in a few steps:

    1. Commitment: In order to even consider changing the modular standard, Lego needs to formally commit to the new road system. Too many times I've seen Lego or other companies create a new system of some sort, force everyone to change, and then abandon the whole thing before it's even fully developed. I'm not saying that's going to happen here, but it they need to commit. This also means developing a corner piece for the road system. I'm very surprised they haven't done so yet.

    2. Application: If Lego is committed, they then need to apply a wide range of plate designs. I would want to see 32x32 plates in regular green, blue, tan, white, light blue-ish grey, dark blue-ish grey plus any new or specific colours needed for modulars (like reddish brown for example). They could also develop 16x32 plates, although these aren't essential.
    Now in regards to modulars I'm assuming that's how they would change. I think 32x32 plates would be the easiest and most effective update, and one that would benefit the entire System of Play; not just modulars. For modulars specifically, Lego could keep doing what they've always done, just build the modular on a plate rather than a baseplate.

    3. Compatibility: This is the hard part. It's easy to build a modular on a 32x32 plate. What's hard is making that compatible with previous modulars. I completely agree with you that most people don't actually connect their modulars, but the whole point of the 'Modular Collection' is that they are compatible so Lego should fix it. Perhaps they could make a special piece that allows the height adjustment, that way a technic pin could work whether the modular is on a regular plate or a baseplate. Alternatively, they could release some sort of official 'fix' for raising the modulars, whether it be a special piece that fits underneath baseplates, a piece of cardboard designed to the specific height, or some other solution. Yes, people have come up with their own solutions, but since Lego caused the problem, they should fix it. This would be paramount if they change the modulars. After all, it would be very obvious the difference between 'old' and 'new' modulars.

    With that point I will return to the original theme of this thread. What will the 2023 modular be? I'd argue it is very likely we will see a change in the modular standard in 2023. This is because of the timing. Corner buildings tend to 'end' a specific street, and have often ushered in a new style of architecture or building techniques. Therefore, since we had a corner this year, it would make sense to start afresh in 2023 with a new street, a new straight modular, and a new system. To change in 2024 (the second straight modular) would be just weird. They could change in 2025, a round number and a new corner building.

    As for your thoughts, I'm happy you also support a hospital. A side entrance for ambulances would be good, although by that I assume you would mean a 32x32 plate for the main building, and then maybe a couple of 8x8 plates as a side assembly that can be attached via technic pins to the side? That could work.
    Personally I would keep the 32x32 standard (just change to plates) for official modular buildings, but I would then encourage Lego to sell separate sets as apart of the 'Modular Collection' like parks, alleyways, squares, carparks, markets etc. etc. which would be set on smaller plates but have technic pins and the modular grey sidewalk, white lamppost etc. standard as 'add on' packs.

  • asherkobinasherkobin Member Posts: 190
    edited July 16
    Last thought...How about Castle modulars? You start with an outer curtain wall and on a regular basis Lego creates buildings of the castle. Stables, inner keep/holdfast, towers, tournament grounds, dungeons, gatehouse, etc. Castle fans would love this.
    Brickfan50BrickchapMarshallmariogmonkey76
  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 950
    @asherkobin Castle modulars would be great. They'd just have to make sure each set could stand on it's own so to speak, somewhat like the Harry Potter Hogwarts sets. Personally I'd really like to see more civilian medieval stuff. I guess multiple sets along the lines of Medieval Market Village, perhaps each with a wall segment that can be connected together. It would also be nice to 'go beyond the castle' with some more Forestmen sets, maybe some landforms, mines etc.
    MCNwakeboard
  • wardmwardm BelgiumMember Posts: 856
    I feel like they are already trying to get ‘out of the box’ of the usual 32x32 buildings, with special angles like in Corner Garage and Boutique Hotel, the split buildings in Book Shop and Pet Store, the staircases in Parisian Restaurant and Diner, the different heights/depths of buildings in Detective’s Office, Assembly Square and Police Office… 
    If they keep on giving us enough variation in things like this, I don’t see a need to change up the format, the buildings are ‘different’ enough for me. Especially when you add the Daily Bugle, Spring Lantern Festival and the Sanctum Sanctorum (soon), which are also all different takes on the modulars because of their footprint / contents. 
    It’s LEGO, so if you want to change it up to fit with the new roadplates, you can do that. 
    IF LEGO ever decides to change the modular format, people WILL complain, and they WON’T make a ‘kit’ to fix your old modulars to the new format. I just don’t see that happening…

    Brickchapsklamb
  • PhoenixioPhoenixio Canada/FranceMember Posts: 191
    For modular display, I highly suggest the Kallax.  Almost all of the modulars fit in one of the cubes (maybe by sometimes taking out an antena), and the ones that don't, you make a full connected street with them on top of the Kallax.  That's what I used to do in my previous student apartment, so you can imagine that I didn't have all that much space and yet I found a way to display all of them up to Police Office, including the Daily Bogle, and with the full Ninjago City set on top of another bookcase... 

    I do admit I'm missing Market Street and Corner Cafe, but that's still a ton of them. :P
    WesterBricksOnebricktoomanyAstrobricksBrickchap
  • emilewskiemilewski CT, USAMember Posts: 479
    I would love to see a poll asking people if they have modulars out connected or stand alone. Personally I have a city setup with them all connected. I assumed that most people would display several connected (I think they make a great small scene that way). But the point of modulars is that they will always connect via the technic pins to the others, without modification, and I don't see them changing the format due to that.
    Brickchapasherkobin
  • Casper_vd_KorfCasper_vd_Korf Twente, The NetherlandsMember Posts: 236
    I think we should make a distinction between connecting Modulars and putting them next to each other. Do you guys use the pins? I find them a hassle, and the buildings are heavy enough that they don’t move about. 

    For me, if plates were used instead of baseplates, the only difference is that there would be a slightly raised edge on the sidewalk, and that’s basically it.

    If a modular were to use 16x16 plates, different colours could be used to show different ground types. On the other hand, the colour of the plates would be visible from the front.

    BrickchapwardmLegoEveryone
  • PhoenixioPhoenixio Canada/FranceMember Posts: 191
    If a modular were to use 16x16 plates, different colours could be used to show different ground types. On the other hand, the colour of the plates would be visible from the front.

    But the baseplate also is visible.  We even had an official comment about that in the recent Lego House tour by Jaime, where he said they tried providing different colors of baseplates but that they show.

    As for connecting, for me it was a mix of both.  You obviously can't connect multiple if they're the ones in the Kallax cubes.  The ones on top though, totally connected.  I had a bookcase with a larger top once where I had 8 of them connected in a big 4x2 city block.  It looked amazing.


    Brickchap
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,214
    I have never used pins as they don't add any value.
    asherkobin
  • daewoodaewoo DFWMember Posts: 770
    I have my modulars on MILs plates (baseplate; brick; plate).  Works great for me.
    gmonkey76
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 5,273
    ^ Cool that your MIL is into Lego! ;-)
    legomental
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