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  • daewoodaewoo Member Posts: 849
    Policing other people's word choices is pure fascism.  

    How's that for an unpopular opinion?
    BrickchapMaffyDarathemis
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Member Posts: 2,622
    MaffyD said:
    I don't like City, if it's 'just' showing normal people going about their normal lives.

    <runs>
    You’re not the only one. I only buy into the unusual subthemes like Arctic, Jungle and Wildlife Rescue. You could argue the theme of modulars is just normal people going about their lives too though (I wouldn’t, but you could).
    WesterBricks560HeliportLordmoral
  • WesterBricksWesterBricks Member Posts: 960
    ^ Agreed, I buy the modular buildings for the buildings, not for the characters.
    On the other hand, I must have the minifigures in case I sell the sets in the future.
    Brickchap
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    In Australia we had the Spastic Society which raised money for children with problems like cerebal palsy. The only reason we don't have it anymore was lack of funding.

    I do think people should really get used to the fact that not every single word in the English language is going to be 100% unoffensive to someone, somewhere in the world. Canada has just introduced some ridiculous bans on words such as blackmail, tone deaf, tribe, savage etc.
    I don't understand why people particularly from England, Canada and the U.S are completely incapable of understanding context and want to cancel every word that is supposedly offensive, even when the person or group it is apparently offensive to hasn't even complained about it. Side note: There are a ton of words in the English language with the word black in it (that have absolutely nothing to do with race), so have fun creating Newspeak...

    As for those who felt the need to correct on this forum, you mean well but people need to do a thing called keep scrolling. The comment using the word 'spastic' was not targeted at people with disabilities, nor was it intending to, or does, cause offensive.

    Therefore, it would save a lot of time for all parties if people just either respond to the actual point of the comment, or move on. Now, in saying that, if the comment was derogatory towards people with disabilities then by all means call it out, but it wasn't so people should just leave it and there will be a much better situation for everyone.

    Btw, is the ban on 'spastic' and 'retarded' something people with disabilities have said they wanted changed, or was it just some woke Englishman/woman at Oxford who thought they know best? (as is usually the case, like an example I have given previously of a white East End Englishman 'correcting' Trevor Noah, a South African who grew up during apartheid, that the word 'coloured' (a term commonly used in South Africa) is offensive to black people, one should instead use 'mixed race'...funny I thought England had moved on from white men telling black people what they can and can't do...)

    On another topic, will we ever get curved road plates? I know American streets are all square but everywhere else in the world roads vary, and even if you are, for example, American, you still may wish to have curved roads in your city. I know I had to because of these confounded 45 degree walls I had to put up with.
    iwybsarathemisBrickfan50Brainslugged
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @Speedman29 Well if you English are going to lecture Americans, or anyone else, on what you think is correct (but isn't), then I don't see the problem with adding an Australian perspective.
  • Lo1sJessLo1sJess Member Posts: 707
    @Speedman29 I also enjoyed #40484 Santa’s Front Yard.
    Marshallmario
  • MaffyDMaffyD Member Posts: 3,576
    The_Rancor said:
    MaffyD said:
    I don't like City, if it's 'just' showing normal people going about their normal lives.

    <runs>
    You’re not the only one. I only buy into the unusual subthemes like Arctic, Jungle and Wildlife Rescue. You could argue the theme of modulars is just normal people going about their lives too though (I wouldn’t, but you could).
    I do consider them like that! :-P
    KungFuKenny560Heliport
  • MaffyDMaffyD Member Posts: 3,576
    Bloody hell - I only wrote a sentence - not an essay! :-)
    560HeliportKungFuKennyMr_CrossstluxFollowsCloselypxchrisGibbo1959Aanchir
  • lowleadlowlead Member Posts: 689
    god I love this place.
    560HeliportLordmoralCymbelinegmonkey76LASEMaffyDFollowsCloselypxchris
  • legobodlegobod Member Posts: 334
    ^ Aren't we supposed to sandpaper the logos off? No wonder everyone else seems to build faster.
    560HeliporteggshenmessyLinuxBrickieSilverLove
  • PhoenixioPhoenixio Member Posts: 348
    Brickchap said:
    Canada has just introduced some ridiculous bans on words such as blackmail, tone deaf, tribe, savage etc.

    ...

    On another topic, will we ever get curved road plates? I know American streets are all square but everywhere else in the world roads vary, and even if you are, for example, American, you still may wish to have curved roads in your city. I know I had to because of these confounded 45 degree walls I had to put up with.
    We did?  I don't think there's a ban on using any of those words.  There were shenanigans in parliament though, where they forbade themselves from using certain words, because they had been using a bunch of them to alienate and insult other parties.


    Big plus on the curved roads for Legos, but let's also stop the American vs England vs Australia stereotypes: of course there are curved roads in America.  The only advantage American and Australian cities have over older European ones is that they had better understanding of city planning, so there are areas that are filled with square blocks and straight roads.  But as with everywhere, obstacles and restrictions abound, creating a need for curved roads.
    AstrobrickskarritstluxKungFuKennygmonkey76AanchirMarshallmarioSuboptimal
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @Phoenixio Yes sadly there is a ban, it was in the news.

    In regards to roads, the only reason I said about America not having curved roads is because I distinctly recall some Yank ranting about it when the road plates came out and people wanted curved roads and this person went on about U.S cities having square roads compared to European cities which developed from villages etc. so 'Lego doesn't need curved roads everyone should just make square type U.S cities'. I completely agree with you though, we need curved roads because everywhere has them and it would be crazy to have a Lego city without them. (if you're using Lego railway track for instance you need curved roads unless you do lots of landscaping)

    Oh and I don't recall any Australian cities with distinctly straight roads, even Canberra it's all quite rounded. So often streets will have a random curve in it for no apparent reason. Speaking of no apparent reason, not sure why Lego still hasn't given us curved roads, let alone why they didn't release them in the first place.
  • PhoenixioPhoenixio Member Posts: 348
    Brickchap said:
    @Phoenixio Yes sadly there is a ban, it was in the news.
    Well you might want to switch newscasters because I can guarantee you there's no ban on any word in Canada.  Even a google search doesn't give anything towards that.  And to nail this coffin shut, I live there and can guarantee that I'm not being watched for my language.

    As I said, the parliament might have put restrictions on themselves to avoid snarky comments, but that's not applied to the common of mortals, obviously, just to those ministers and members of parliament so that things move forward.
    RedbullgivesuwindFizyxstluxAstrobricksAanchirSuboptimal
  • FizyxFizyx Member Posts: 1,363
    Phoenixio said:

    Well you might want to switch newscasters because I can guarantee you there's no ban on any word in Canada.  Even a google search doesn't give anything towards that.  And to nail this coffin shut, I live there and can guarantee that I'm not being watched for my language.

    As I said, the parliament might have put restrictions on themselves to avoid snarky comments, but that's not applied to the common of mortals, obviously, just to those ministers and members of parliament so that things move forward.

    The myth appears to have originated with an OPINION piece published by someone at the CBC (notably NOT in charge of anything related to the actual governance of Canada) talking about considering the history and wider cultural context of certain phrases and terms before you use them.  The article  notably don't even say that you shouldn't use the words or terms they discuss, only talking to language experts or minority advocates about why certain groups may find those terms insulting or offensive.  Some of the sources they interviewed state you shouldn't use certain terms, but the writer of the article only quotes them when they do.   I will grant that the article isn't particularly well written, and some of the examples are absolutely stretching, but to take that article and conflate it with a 'ban' on those words is... well.  It's an interesting take.  Here's the original article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/words-and-phrases-commonly-used-offensive-english-language-1.6252274 


    PhoenixioAstrobricksAanchirSuboptimal
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @Phoenixio @Fizyx I'll take your words for it, and thanks for sharing!

    I had better reassure you guys that the newssource I heard this from wasn't some Trump right wing nut thing, normally they are pretty good at regular, objective news.

    But it sure wouldn't be the first time media outlets have completely misunderstood something and blown it out of proportion.
    WesterBricksPhoenixio560HeliportAanchir
  • PhoenixioPhoenixio Member Posts: 348
    edited December 2021
    @Brickchap All good!  I had also seen that article, but dismissed it as it didn't quite talk about bans.  Surely it's some twisted Australian take on the word :P
    560HeliportBrickchap
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Member Posts: 2,368
    edited December 2021
    Phoenixio said:
    …of course there are curved roads in America. 
    I live in the States and I even have traffic circles in my neighborhood!  Sometimes I like to pretend that I’m Clark Griswold in European Vacation and circle over and over again… “Kids, It’s Big Ben and Parliament… again…”
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgX6qlJEMc
    Fizyxlowleadpxchris560HeliportWesterBricksMr_CrossBrickchapgmonkey76
  • lowleadlowlead Member Posts: 689
    Brickchap said:
    ...I distinctly recall some Yank ranting about it when the road plates came out and people wanted curved roads and this person went on about U.S cities having square roads compared to European cities which developed from villages etc....
    Clearly that Yank hasn't been to Boston =oD  I'm a New England native and I still tear my hair out navigating downtown - villages and colonies indeed!

    Brickchap
  • PJ76ukPJ76uk Member Posts: 974
    WesterBricks said:
    I don’t like light kits. 
    I used to feel the same, still do I guess! Would never consider adding lights to any of my permanent display models (when I can display them!) But with most of my Lego in storage in anticipation of moving again soon, I broke and bought my first light kit for #10293 Santa's Visit. Not sure if I'd buy kits for all my Winter Village displays but the wife loves it and may yet persuade me to do so. Still won't get any for my non-Winter Village sets though!
    WesterBricks
  • daewoodaewoo Member Posts: 849
    So there are cities in the States that are built on grids.  Salt Lake City is a great example of that.  But when you get out of those cities and into the suburbs, things change quite a bit and roads get a lot of curves.  Look at Dallas, for example.  Downtown is a clear grid.  The further out from downtown you get, the less of a grid exists.  So, as an American, I would love for Lego to come up with a way, in their new road system, to make curves.
    Brickchapgmonkey76
  • daewoodaewoo Member Posts: 849
    Oh, and I don't mean just one radius like we had in the old road plates.  I would like to see options for tight, or small radius curves, to larger, more gentle radius curves.  Variety would be awesome.
    KungFuKennyBrickchapgmonkey76Marshallmario
  • FizyxFizyx Member Posts: 1,363
    PJ76uk said:
    WesterBricks said:
    I don’t like light kits. 
    I used to feel the same, still do I guess! Would never consider adding lights to any of my permanent display models (when I can display them!) But with most of my Lego in storage in anticipation of moving again soon, I broke and bought my first light kit for #10293 Santa's Visit. Not sure if I'd buy kits for all my Winter Village displays but the wife loves it and may yet persuade me to do so. Still won't get any for my non-Winter Village sets though!

    For me it definitely depends on the kit.  Some of them are just... not good, from a materials standpoint.  There are good brands out there, but there's a LOT of crap on the market.  But also some of them are not great conceptually also.  I like the idea of lighting up sets, but lots of flashing lights, garish colors, bad placement... all of those things are definite minuses.  So the key is to find a kit that's made with quality materials/manufacturing processes, that also lights the model the right way... and it's at that point I start to lose a interest, cause that's just too much work for most sets :P

    WesterBricks
  • pxchrispxchris Member Posts: 2,438
    I'm venturing into the whole lighting game for the very first time myself. Based on my questions in another thread I ordered a kit for POBB #21322 from Game of Bricks. My primary interest though isn't really for lighting my displayed sets at home, but for adding some lighting to my convention display - this is just my testing round to see if it's worth ordering more components from them. I'm not really interested in a garish flashy display, but more in the realm of some accent lighting for some interiors, and some lamps/torches possibly. Maybe a little bit of flashing for some cannon fire. Overall a rather subtle approach.
    WesterBricks
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    I love roundabouts.  There aren't enough in the US.
    Brickchap560HeliportlowleadFizyxKungFuKennyBumblepantsMynattdbrouge
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @SumoLego Be careful what you wish for. The amount of ninnies that nearly kill you on a roundabout is very concerning. You go to drive then whoosh! Some idiot has flown across the roundabout from the next 'entry point' of it.

    That said, an official Lego roundabout piece would be very cool! Has anyone tried making one yet? I'm guessing if you started with a single 16x16 road plate, used the studded space in the middle to attach a round assembly (maybe have a palm tree in the middle), then attach road 'entrances' to each side of the square, would that work?
    Aanchir
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @daewoo Completely agree! I like how the new 8x16 plates can be used to create laneways, so it would be great to have small and large curves. Maybe they could do 'road versions' of the curved track pieces?
    Aanchir
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Member Posts: 4,253
    SumoLego said:
    I love roundabouts.  There aren't enough in the US.
    They're great for people who understand them. Unfortunately, that's not everyone.
    SumoLegoBrickchapgmonkey76BumblepantsdatsunrobbieRedbullgivesuwindpxchris
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Member Posts: 4,253
    SumoLego said:
    560Heliport said:
    They're great for people who understand them. Unfortunately, that's not everyone.
    Just as many people don't understand a four-way stop sign.  Or traffic lights...
    Or turn signals...
    BrickchapCymbelineSumoLegoAstrobrickspxchris
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    Or median strips
    560Heliport
  • lowleadlowlead Member Posts: 689
    SumoLego said:
    I love roundabouts.  There aren't enough in the US.
    I'm more of a Rotary man, myself =oD

    560Heliport
  • Brickfan50Brickfan50 Member Posts: 479
    Lordmoral said:
    Lego should consider how they will announce more Overwatch themes considering that Minecraft had a similar situation, if LEGO says they are canceling the sets for QA reasons I hope they get called on their PR reasoning. 
    It is pretty wild that LEGO still won't do sets based on Jedi Fallen Order when Overwatch is a T rated game.
    What Minecraft situation are you referring to?
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    560Heliport said:.
    Or turn signals...
    What's a turn signal?
    560Heliportlowlead
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @SumoLego I think he means an indicator? Like when people have a left indicator on for example at a roundabout and then decide to drive straight (thus risking an accident). Or people who don't indicate off a roundabout (so you can never tell which way they are going).

    Unpopular opinion: I hate modern cars, including Lego ones because both real and Lego ones are boring, same old same old. (namely City cars)

    Also, many modern cars have tiny indicators hidden behind bright white LED headlights, so one often misses other cars indicators (I was warned about this by a professional driving instructor, it's not just an opinion in regards to indicators).
    I also find white LEDs on car headlights very trying on my eyes (and it makes no sense having lights on all through the day, especially here in Australia where its mostly very bright). Maybe it's just because I wear glasses. 
    SumoLego
  • lowleadlowlead Member Posts: 689
    SumoLego said:
    What's a turn signal?
    Ha!  Something tells me that both of us on the same road simultaneously could cause extreme hazards.
    @Brickchap In Australia it could very well be different, but I noticed those super bright LED running lights shut off when the driver activates their blinker...indicator, signal, whatever.
    I have the most enjoyment on the road in a rental car with Massachusetts plates.  The expectations for responsible driving are very low...

    SumoLegoBrickchap
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    Brickchap said:
    @SumoLego I think he means an indicator? 
    I'm just being silly.  I often forget that there are different words for fairly pedestrian things - even in the English-language world. 

    And commenting on the frequent lack of common courtesies on the road.

    (I gave up on correcting my children on calling a turn signal/indicator the 'blinker'.)
    lowleadBrickchap
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    Indicators are not pedestrian things. After all, they are for vehicles not pedestrians.
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  • Gibbo1959Gibbo1959 Member Posts: 553
    edited December 2021
    CCC said:
    Indicators are not pedestrian things. After all, they are for vehicles not pedestrians.
    Tell that to the pedestrian crossing the road you turn into without indicating!
    560HeliportBrickchap
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    I've heard of people calling them blinkers, indicators is the normal description. Turn signal just sounds weird, although it is true.

    What I've always wanted to know though is, how did one show other drivers you were turning left in the days of hand signals?
    Like, if you are sitting in the drivers seat you can stick your hand out with relative ease to indicate a right hand turn, but if you want to turn left you either need a passenger, or really long arms....
    Someone once suggested to me they had a paddle that would come out for the left hand side, but if they could make a wooden indicator for the left, then why not the right?
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Member Posts: 4,253
    Bearing in mind that in the USA, we drive on the right side (and I mean opposite of left, not opposite of wrong), therefore the driver is on the left: left arm straight out means left turn; arm out with hand up (elbow bent) means right turn; arm out with hand down means stopping.
    lowleadWesterBricksgmonkey76
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @560Heliport hahaha I knew some American would correct me around left and right hand side. XD
    But thanks for sharing about the hand up, hand down thing since I'm guessing it would be the same in U.K, Australia etc.

    I wonder how our poor minifigures indicate since very few, if any Lego cars, have indicators, and their arms can't go out the window!

    Maybe they just guess where everyone is going, and if they have a crash then just 'Pack Up Your Troubles (and pieces of your car) in Your Old Kit Bag and Smile, Smile Smile and 'Don't Worry, Be Happy' etc. LOL
    560Heliport
  • Gibbo1959Gibbo1959 Member Posts: 553
    edited December 2021
    Brickchap said:
    I've heard of people calling them blinkers, indicators is the normal description. Turn signal just sounds weird, although it is true.

    What I've always wanted to know though is, how did one show other drivers you were turning left in the days of hand signals?
    Like, if you are sitting in the drivers seat you can stick your hand out with relative ease to indicate a right hand turn, but if you want to turn left you either need a passenger, or really long arms....
    Someone once suggested to me they had a paddle that would come out for the left hand side, but if they could make a wooden indicator for the left, then why not the right?
    Something in my memory tells me you stuck your right arm out but made a circling motion to indicate turning left (for UK and other LH side roads). Before blinking indicators some vehicles had indicators that would spring out, usually on the door frame. Like this.

    Brickchap560Heliportgmonkey76Redbullgivesuwind
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Member Posts: 2,622
    I thought this thread was full of new unpopular opinions but it’s turned into ‘Roads and Highways Anonymous’. Still, something different to spice things up!
    WesterBricksBrickchap560Heliporteggsheniwybs
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @The_Rancor What? You weren't expecting the RTA?

    HA! Nooobody expects the Roads and Traffic Authority!

    Our chief weaponry includes such diverse elements as: Surprise, flashing lights, dashing red uniforms and an almost fanatical devotion to the road rules!
    560Heliportgmonkey76iwybs
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    When building a realistic government building, you should not use glass window pieces, because governments have no transparency!

    Bad joke, couldn't help myself
    lowleadSumoLegoiwybs
  • Lo1sJessLo1sJess Member Posts: 707
    @brickchap only brick built or fixed windows for government buildings.  Can’t have fresh air or ability to jump in despair.  Poking fun here as I am a government employee. 
    Brickchaplowleadiwybs
  • BrickchapBrickchap Member Posts: 1,543
    @Lo1sJess Very true!

    And don't forget the laundry room for your money and the storeroom with pigs in barrels.... All food for government employees must not come from Woolworths* because we can't have fresh ideas in government now can we?







    *An Australian supermarket whose slogan is 'fresh' including 'fresh ideas for you'
    lowlead
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