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What is the largest Lego set?

playwellplaywell Member Posts: 2,333
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With 10294 Titanic looking like it could be considered the biggest Lego set in a couple of ways I was wondering how we should judge what the biggest Lego set is.

Most people were happy to go with piece count as the easiest way to compare until 31203 World Map came along. So what would people go by?

1, Straight part count

2 Part count with exclusions, no world map because of all the studs or because its not really a true build but just a frame that is built. No The ultimate battle for CHIMA because it was just a collection and did that box even exist or did the winner just get the sets, should it even be listed on brickset?

3 Weight of set boxed

4 Weight of model

5 Single largest dimension, hight or length

6 Different dimension calculation, surface area, volume or so on

7 Combination of factors

8 Other - How about some complicated stud count, were a 1x1 plat was worth 1 point and a 1x1 brick 3 points and so on. Basically if you build all the bricks in the set into the smallest space possible which one would be biggest.

Also if you were doing a top 10 do you count the Taj Mahal twice as its a different set number or not because its the same or how about the Millennium Falcon, does the new one just replace the old on any list?

Thought this might make a good article for @Huw or @CapnRex101 and thought it would be good to hear peoples opinions and also crowd source some of the information needed like weight of set built.

Would also be good to see pictures of any of these large sets together to compare if anyone has more than one and has the room to picture them together.

I will go first, not happy with the world map as largest set so I would go 2, Part count with exclusions or 5 Single largest dimension because both would be The Titanic. I would be happy to go 4 Weight of model if some body could show a clear winner. Or 6 Different dimension calculation if someone could come up with a good one.

Basically I wouldn't be happy with the World Map as it just single studs, wouldn't be too happy with the Star Destroyer as its too hollow with a much lower part count than some. So I guess I would like some clever combination of part count, weight (of model) and size (how ever we measure that).


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  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    SMC said:


    8 Other - How about some complicated stud count, were a 1x1 plat was worth 1 point and a 1x1 brick 3 points and so on. Basically if you build all the bricks in the set into the smallest space possible which one would be biggest.


    I was going to suggest something like this, but you might as well just replace it with weight.

    As to the question of which is the biggest, my answer is I don't care. As the world map shows, one measure of being big doesn't necessarily produce a great set. The Titanic is big, but too big (for me). I prefer something like Saturn V standing upright compared to laying down. Big with a small footprint is nicer than something so long you need a custom made display case to fit it in.
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  • thedoctor46thedoctor46 Member Posts: 213
    The world map is the largest Lego set, but not the largest Lego model. That's the way I see it. 
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  • DeMontesDeMontes Member Posts: 745
    What about going for Density?

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  • Casper_vd_KorfCasper_vd_Korf Member Posts: 244
    DeMontes said:
    What about going for Density?

    Hmm, there are a few ways we could do that. Volume/weight, Volume/parts, and weight/parts might also even work. Also, volume could also be measured a few different ways: a bounding box, or a volume that follows the outside of the model, or a volume calculated by submerging it in water and eliminating air pockets. But if we would look at the set with the highest density, something like a brickheadz or architecture set might come out, which is still interesting, but not what we were looking for.
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  • andheandhe Member Posts: 4,002
    Drop them all on the floor and see which one spreads the furthest.
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  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,270
    DeMontes said:
    What about going for Density?

    We could rent a crusher and start a youtube channel #crushaset
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  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Member Posts: 5,564
    Paperballpark said:
    DeMontes said:
    What about going for Density?

    We could rent a crusher and start a youtube channel #crushaset
    Hasn’t the guy(s) with the hydraulic press already crushed literally everything?
    andheOnebricktoomanygmonkey76
  • bricktuarybricktuary Member Posts: 987
    Weight is probably the only sensible answer.

    That said I don't see why World Map should be excluded from the discussions. Ultimate greebling.
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  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Member Posts: 2,623
    I’m happy for there to be separate accolades which may or may not be broken in future:

    - Longest Lego set
    - Tallest Lego set
    - Widest Lego set (all by standard display)
    - Heaviest Lego set
    - Lego set with the most individual pieces
    … and maybe, Lego set with the most 1x1 plate volume covered (which would benefit a set having bigger pieces)

    It’s probably easier to separate them than have them duke it out on one combined category. Even then you have items like the Saturn V that mess up the tallest/longest in one go.
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  • bricktuarybricktuary Member Posts: 987
    So basically someone needs to do a set of Lego Top Trumps.
    messy
  • playwellplaywell Member Posts: 2,333
    The_Rancor said:
    I’m happy for there to be separate accolades which may or may not be broken in future:

    - Longest Lego set
    - Tallest Lego set
    - Widest Lego set (all by standard display)
    - Heaviest Lego set
    - Lego set with the most individual pieces
    … and maybe, Lego set with the most 1x1 plate volume covered (which would benefit a set having bigger pieces)

    It’s probably easier to separate them than have them duke it out on one combined category. Even then you have items like the Saturn V that mess up the tallest/longest in one go.
    This is kind of what I was hoping to see, top 10 in each group and maybe there will be a set which shows up a lot for the overall win. Anyone want to have a go at the top 10s and we can all kick in if anythings missing?
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Member Posts: 2,623
    edited October 2021
    I’m going to go ahead and say there may be quirky sets in some categories. The Martian bases from Life on Mars and Mars Mission with their vacuum systems must have pretty impressive lengths, as well as the Futuron Monorail. However you could discount train tracks and similar because they’re not the set itself, just a train layout.
  • arathemisarathemis Member Posts: 627
    So the among the longest sets it would be the train track pack from city? It would be about 2-3 meters long
    KungFuKenny
  • DB361DB361 Member Posts: 299
    Maybe, if you were looking more at the part count rather than the dimensions, you could do something like No. of parts x No. of different parts (i.e. different lots on Bricklink)? At least then you filter out sets with huge numbers of the same small pieces.

    So The World Map, for example, would be 11695 x 32 = 374,240
    Colosseum 10276; 9036 x 220 = 1,987,920
    UCS Imperial Star Destroyer 75252; 4784 x 446 = 2,133,664
    UCS Millennium Falcon 75192; 7541 x 684 = 5,158,044

    I don't think it is the way to look at it, personally (There's no way the UCS Millenium Falcon is nearly 3x bigger than the Colosseum), but just a thought I had on how to look at it at a bit of a tangent.  
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  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,729
    Enough with the arguments that number of pieces = largest. My sofa is less parts than the box of toothpicks in the kitchen but no one would argue the toothpicks are larger. World Map is just the Lots of Dots pack on steroids, aka a giant pack of toothpicks.
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  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    Might as well use price, so most expensive instead of largest. 
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,270
    BooTheMightyHamster said:
    bricktuary said:
    So basically someone needs to do a set of Lego Top Trumps.
    Ooh yeah!

    - Piece count
    - Price
    - Number of five star reviews on Brickset
    - Acceptability to spouses / significant others
    - Number of mentions in the "Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value" thread
    - Highest price that this set has been advertised for as a "Buy It Now" on Ebay
    - Number of White Rangefinders in set
    No no no.

    - Number of sausages in set
    - Number of helicopters in set
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  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Administrator, Moderator Posts: 5,234
    Great, I think you just described the next Monkie Kid set.
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  • 560Heliport560Heliport Member Posts: 4,267
    edited October 2021
    Yellowcastle said:
    Great, I think you just described the next Monkie Kid set.
    Pigsy's next vehicle is a helicopter? Awesome! I'm in!

    Edit: I'm about to go to the store, maybe for a second #80020- because that jet is fantastic! I love Monkie Kid.
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    BooTheMightyHamster said:
    bricktuary said:
    So basically someone needs to do a set of Lego Top Trumps.
    Ooh yeah!

    - Piece count
    - Price
    - Number of five star reviews on Brickset
    - Acceptability to spouses / significant others
    - Number of mentions in the "Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value" thread
    - Highest price that this set has been advertised for as a "Buy It Now" on Ebay
    - Number of White Rangefinders in set
    Number of people that queue up at midnight in Central London to get it.

    The number of extra seats taken up on the tube to get it home.
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  • andheandhe Member Posts: 4,002
    I haven't tried to work out the stats, but how long has each 'largest set' (by which I mean piece count) held the crown?

    I remember people complaining about the colosseum being a bit dull and didn't deserve to be the biggest set and thought 'yeah give it a year and they'll be something bigger'.
    9 months later we got the World Map and the same discussion began, and six months later we have the Titanic (fewer parts but generally 'bigger' build/box/etc).

    I'm looking forward to the next couple of years or so when we end up with a set filling two of those 'millienium falcon' square boxes and costing £1000. Not that I'll be buying it, just interested to see where the ceiling is.
    560HeliportKungFuKenny
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    Yellowcastle said:
    The biggest in my heart ❤️.
    If that's the barometer - then Space Skulls is the hands-down winner.
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  • 560Heliport560Heliport Member Posts: 4,267
    edited October 2021
    SumoLego said:
    Yellowcastle said:
    The biggest in my heart ❤️.
    If that's the barometer - then Space Skulls is the hands-down winner.
    #6989. It's got "Mega" in the name! Obviously it's the greatest!
    KungFuKenny
  • Casper_vd_KorfCasper_vd_Korf Member Posts: 244
    Names are always true! Just look at #7971
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  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Member Posts: 5,564
    Casper_vd_Korf said:
    Names are always true! Just look at #7971
    Wtf Lego?
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    Casper_vd_Korf said:
    Names are always true! Just look at #7971
    I am disappointed this wasn't an exclusive Michael Jackson minifig.
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  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    SumoLego said:
    Casper_vd_Korf said:
    Names are always true! Just look at #7971
    I am disappointed this wasn't an exclusive Michael Jackson minifig.
    Although if you put liquid soap in the tube and push the bellows it can blow Bubbles. Like Michael Jackson.
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  • 12651265 Member Posts: 1,165
    SumoLego said:
    Casper_vd_Korf said:
    Names are always true! Just look at #7971
    I am disappointed this wasn't an exclusive Michael Jackson minifig.
    Rumor has it that a Michael Jackson minifig will be included with the upcoming Home Alone set.
    560HeliportpxchrisSumoLegoBrainslugged
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,270
    edited October 2021
    That's Bad.
    SumoLego560Heliport
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    Paperballpark said:
    That's Bad.
    Beat It, you Smooth Criminal.
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  • jmeninnojmeninno Member Posts: 1,216
    ^Are you ok?
    560Heliport
  • Casper_vd_KorfCasper_vd_Korf Member Posts: 244
    Now that we’ve derailed that conversation, for me it doesn’t really matter what the biggest set is, I’m probably not gonna buy it anyway. The biggest set I have is the hogwarts castle, I can barely fit that somewhere at home. Also, those big sets are not really too appealing to me, I like small clever builds a lot better.
    andhe
  • mr_bennmr_benn Member Posts: 952
    I think it should be decided by 'what would hurt the most if it fell on you from a reasonable height'.  One could judge this by things such as pointiness, how much it might disintegrate on impact (which would hurt less one would imagine) and overall weight.
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  • hTristanhTristan Member Posts: 14
    Acceptability to spouses/significant others

    If we're assuming sig oth is an AHOL, then Marilyn Monroe Art piece probably wins this right?

    I think the most standard defn of 'size' is volume (as opposed to mass). An inflated hot air balloon is much 'bigger' than a deflated one. Titanic is pretty voluminous.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    edited October 2021
    mr_benn said:
    ...how much it might disintegrate on impact...
    The Harrison Ford Test.
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  • 560Heliport560Heliport Member Posts: 4,267
    Paperballpark said:
    My better half really likes the look of the Titanic, so I was going around the house measuring up all the sideboards to see where it could fit (only one sideboard large enough sadly, and that has something else on it which was bought to go there...)

    She was indulging me more than I expected, and then I told her the price. She actually winced.
    I think a wince is promising... Better than an outright "No chance!".
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  • BrainsluggedBrainslugged Member Posts: 2,278
    Paperballpark said:
    She was indulging me more than I expected, and then I told her the price. She actually winced.
    Maybe it was a good wince?
    SumoLegoKungFuKenny
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    Brainslugged said:
    Maybe it was a good wince?
    Yes, the Glenda kind.  

    (Side note - there is no such thing as a 'good' wince.  Or 'I'll be five minutes at Target' or 'we can leave shortly, there's only two minutes left in the game'...)
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  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Member Posts: 2,368
    edited October 2021
    Promobricks IG page had this graphic  which really drives home how large the Titanic is…

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  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    They should do the same thing with a pile of pennies to show the cost.
    KungFuKenny
  • BrainsluggedBrainslugged Member Posts: 2,278
    edited October 2021
    CCC said:
    They should do the same thing with a pile of pennies to show the cost.
    Great idea!

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  • Casper_vd_KorfCasper_vd_Korf Member Posts: 244
    Those are some wide pennies…
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  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Member Posts: 5,564
    “SPAM’s off!”
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    Now I'm hungry and I want a LEGO Titanic.

    Which, after seeing one in-person - that's an obnoxious set.  (I will own one soon, of course.)
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  • playwellplaywell Member Posts: 2,333
    Time to revisit this then, the Eiffel Tower has the most parts (other than the studs of the world map) and is also the biggest being taller than the Titanic is long.

    I am tempted to get it as the biggest set ever but how long will it stay that way?
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