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  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 3,168
    I like the Sand Green roofs for Hogwarts. I have lots of 1x2 and 1x4 plates and 1x2 tiles from PAB, so I'm thinking about recoloring my 2018-2020 Harry Potter sets.
    BumblepantsMr_Cross
  • pxchrispxchris Oregon, USAMember Posts: 1,971
    Phoenixio said:
    I love Vidiyo.  It's a really unpopular opinion reading comments on here, but damn is that theme vibing with me.  I simply don't understand where the hate is coming from.
    I actually agree with you on most your points.

    My biggest complaint from the get-go with Vidiyo has always been the price.
    Mr_CrossFizyxBumblepantsPhoenixiogmonkey76SumoLegoKungFuKennyAyliffeAanchir
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,066
    After being able to examine the Adidas Sneaker, I am now 100% sure that this is the worst 'set' ever created.

    I'll be eagerly waiting brick-built POGS or Beanie Babies.  I'd rather have an endless stream of Millennium Falcons, Helicopters and Lighthouses than wasting production schedule time on brick-built approximations of footwear.
    KungFuKennyCharmiefcbAstrobricksgmonkey76datsunrobbieMarshallmarioGothamConstructionCo
  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,611
    but it's saved money
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    But we can’t unsee it... :o)
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    We should do a Razzies for worst set ever. Lol :o)
    JudgeChuckSumoLegogmonkey76pxchrisMarshallmario
  • JudgeChuckJudgeChuck UKMember Posts: 1,552
    We should do a Razzies for worst set ever. Lol :o)
    #5002941 I'll take my prize now, please! ;-)
    KungFuKennySumoLegoYellowcastlegmonkey76
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Somewhere between Ice Station Odyssey and FabulandMember Posts: 2,364
    #4040-1 was one of the most disturbing polybags I can remember…

    While #4612 had a whopping 6 pieces for $4 

    And #8009 gets a “nice try but no cigar” award..

    jnscoelhoYellowcastlegmonkey76pxchrisJudgeChuckMarshallmario
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,066
    edited July 2021
    Those are some pretty terrible sets.  I'll stick with the plastic sneaker as the worst.  

    That Bionicle sticker pack is not unique.  There are terrible TLM, Friends and Creator useless sticker polys as well.
    KungFuKennyYellowcastlegmonkey76Marshallmario
  • autolycusautolycus US-SEMember Posts: 1,270
    edited July 2021
    Some of the early SW technic droids were great! That R2 is really really terrible. What on earth made them allow that into the wild?!
    KungFuKenny
  • MrJacksonMrJackson Member Posts: 451
    No discussion of worst set ever can be complete without a mention of the garbage #75201 First Order AT-ST
    KungFuKenny560HeliportpxchrisCharmiefcbBumblepantsJudgeChuckandhegmonkey76bpk2300
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    TLJ, like an angry Balrog, lashes out again from the pit...
    sipuss560HeliportKungFuKennygmonkey76
  • CharmiefcbCharmiefcb SydneyMember Posts: 451
    I like how they added that useless elevator in the FO AT-ST just to keep the price up. One of the few Star Wars sets I refused to buy.
    That Technic R2 is a complete mess but to be fair Technic is one theme that has really improved and maybe they should have another crack at Star Wars. Hell alot of the Star Wars sets rely very heavily on Technic.
    560HeliportKungFuKenny
  • JudgeChuckJudgeChuck UKMember Posts: 1,552
    MrJackson said:
    No discussion of worst set ever can be complete without a mention of the garbage #75201 First Order AT-ST
    Or its big brother: #75177 First Order Heavy Scout Walker!
    KungFuKennyCharmiefcbgmonkey76
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 3,168
    MrJackson said:
    No discussion of worst set ever can be complete without a mention of the garbage #75201 First Order AT-ST
    Or its big brother: #75177 First Order Heavy Scout Walker!
    I gotta disagree here! There were a couple of pictures of the model in a book, "The Art of The Last Jedi" (I think). The Lego set was a pretty good version of the vehicle. It's not #75177's fault it got cut from the movie. 
    KungFuKennystluxAstrobricksgratefulnat
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Somewhere between Ice Station Odyssey and FabulandMember Posts: 2,364
    MrJackson said:
    No discussion of worst set ever can be complete without a mention of the garbage #75201 First Order AT-ST
    This photo from the review by @CapnRex101 still makes me laugh..

    I know they have to work with what they are given, but I like to imagine what the designers were saying in the planning sessions… “we’ve already made AT-STs with heads, so…”, or maybe “Hey, maybe it will look sportier as a convertible?”…
    560HeliportiwybsandheMarshallmariogmonkey76
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 3,168
    What's next? A walker without legs? 😛
  • autolycusautolycus US-SEMember Posts: 1,270
    That AT-ST could have been a GREAT set if it had implemented a play feature that allows it to be either the full, undamaged version, or the head-blown-off version. Missed opportunity of the highest order.
    560HeliportBumblepantsAyliffeYellowcastleandhegmonkey76
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,450
    MrJackson said:
    No discussion of worst set ever can be complete without a mention of the garbage #75201 First Order AT-ST
    This photo from the review by @CapnRex101 still makes me laugh..

    I know they have to work with what they are given, but I like to imagine what the designers were saying in the planning sessions… “we’ve already made AT-STs with heads, so…”, or maybe “Hey, maybe it will look sportier as a convertible?”…
    That's not what actually happened. In a session with Jens Kronvold Frederiksen (head of the Lego Star Wars team) in Billund in 2019, he shared that they had actually made a "complete" AT-ST version with a play version to blow the head off.
    Lucasfilm then proceeded to tell them "You can't do that - the AT-ST is never shown undamaged in the movie." So as Lucasfilm didn't want to sign off on the set, we ended up with that abomination...

    Maybe a better response would have been to never release #75201 instead, but I don't know what that would have meant licensing-wise. 
    560HeliportThe_RancorautolycusKungFuKennyandhegratefulnat
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 3,283
    ^ Or just not set the price as if it was a complete walker. You could MOC a whole host of alternate heads on that thing if it was £15 cheaper.
    560Heliport
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 2,374
    edited July 2021
    stlux said:
    "You can't do that - the AT-ST is never shown undamaged in the movie.”
    That’s not even true, which is even more ridiculous! It prominently ‘has a head’ until BB-8 makes it walk forward which pulls the head off.
    JudgeChuck560Heliportandhegmonkey76
  • bricktuarybricktuary Krakozhia (temporarily stuck in London)Member Posts: 948
    edited July 2021
    I both Like, and HATE, extra parts, especially rare or unique ones.

    They always immediately freak me out - did I miss something? Have I messed up somehow.
    Then, what do I do with them - they belong to THIS set, but this set doesn't need them.

    Should I put them in the big random parts box? Put them back in the box the set came in never to be used? Keep them specifically as spares in case.... well, in case of what?

    What if I want to sell the set in future? Will I need the spare parts or not?

    It's the worst part of every build for me.

    Mr_CrossautolycusYellowcastlegmonkey76
  • iwybsiwybs PlutoMember Posts: 291
    What's next? A walker without legs? 😛
    That's called the Clone Turbo Tank.
    560Heliportgmonkey76
  • autolycusautolycus US-SEMember Posts: 1,270
    I both Like, and HATE, extra parts, especially rare or unique ones.

    They always immediately freak me out - did I miss something? Have I messed up somehow.
    Then, what do I do with them - they belong to THIS set, but this set doesn't need them.

    Should I put them in the big random parts box? Put them back in the box the set came in never to be used? Keep them specifically as spares in case.... well, in case of what?

    What if I want to sell the set in future? Will I need the spare parts or not?

    It's the worst part of every build for me.

    I’m with you on all of this!! I put the extras from every set in a labeled snack size ziploc bag. I hate myself for doing it instead of just dumping them in a single container, but I’m with you: do I need to include them if I sell a set? They belong to THAT set!!
    MarshallmarioBooTheMightyHamster
  • pxchrispxchris Oregon, USAMember Posts: 1,971
    autolycus said:

    I put the extras from every set in a labeled snack size ziploc bag.
    I used to do this exact same thing... however I'm not at all concerned about re-saleability and I finally realized that it was both silly and pointless for me to try to keep track of the extras from every set individually. I now just keep all of my extra pieces together with a small bit of sorting (printed pieces, and minifigure accessories being the primary two types I pull out) done on them. This way if I ever happen to need one of those extras because I loose a piece in a rebuilt or whatever the case may be, it's easy enough to find. For a very small number of select sets I do still have the extra pieces in a tiny ziploc labeled appropriately... but I couldn't even really tell you why specifically for those.
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Somewhere between Ice Station Odyssey and FabulandMember Posts: 2,364
    edited July 2021
    stlux said:
    That's not what actually happened. In a session with Jens Kronvold Frederiksen (head of the Lego Star Wars team) in Billund in 2019, he shared that they had actually made a "complete" AT-ST version with a play version to blow the head off.
    Lucasfilm then proceeded to tell them "You can't do that - the AT-ST is never shown undamaged in the movie." So as Lucasfilm didn't want to sign off on the set, we ended up with that abomination...

    Maybe a better response would have been to never release #75201 instead, but I don't know what that would have meant licensing-wise. 
    Yeah, I figured that the designers had constraints on the design process…I still like to think up funny rationales for weird sets though ;-)
    gmonkey76
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 5,233
    stlux said:
    That's not what actually happened. In a session with Jens Kronvold Frederiksen (head of the Lego Star Wars team) in Billund in 2019, he shared that they had actually made a "complete" AT-ST version with a play version to blow the head off.
    Lucasfilm then proceeded to tell them "You can't do that - the AT-ST is never shown undamaged in the movie." So as Lucasfilm didn't want to sign off on the set, we ended up with that abomination...

    Maybe a better response would have been to never release #75201 instead, but I don't know what that would have meant licensing-wise. 
    Yeah, I figured that the designers had constraints on the design process…I still like to think up funny rationales for weird sets though ;-)
    I’m guessing there was an agreed upon number of sets in the licensing deal, so if they’d skipped the AT-ST, they would have had to come up with a new one to take its place.
    andhe560Heliport
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,744
    There must be lots of licensing/marketing decisions and restraints like this that happen behind the scenes only for designers to get berated by us with complaints of 'why didn't they put my favourite character or include this exact detail that I wanted in this set etc etc '
    560HeliportAstrobricksYellowcastleAyliffegmonkey76
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,450
    stlux said:
    That's not what actually happened. In a session with Jens Kronvold Frederiksen (head of the Lego Star Wars team) in Billund in 2019, he shared that they had actually made a "complete" AT-ST version with a play version to blow the head off.
    Lucasfilm then proceeded to tell them "You can't do that - the AT-ST is never shown undamaged in the movie." So as Lucasfilm didn't want to sign off on the set, we ended up with that abomination...

    Maybe a better response would have been to never release #75201 instead, but I don't know what that would have meant licensing-wise. 
    Yeah, I figured that the designers had constraints on the design process…I still like to think up funny rationales for weird sets though ;-)
    I’m guessing there was an agreed upon number of sets in the licensing deal, so if they’d skipped the AT-ST, they would have had to come up with a new one to take its place.
    Plus that this set had been scheduled to fill a certain price point in the range.
    560HeliportAstrobricksYellowcastleSumoLegogmonkey76
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    I would love to get more insight like this as to how/why decisions are made behind the scenes.  Why did Castle in the Forest not pass?  Was it too close in time to The Blacksmith Forge?  Did Mos Eisley originally include a landspeeder only to have it removed for separate sale?  Are designers being forced to include road plates, this lessening what can actually be done with the buildings?  The recent City sets with roads IMHO were awful, especially when compared to the recent Creator 3/1 buildings.
    560Heliportgmonkey76
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,066
    ^ We're not so different, you and I.
    gmonkey76
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,980
    edited July 2021
    Are designers being forced to include road plates, this lessening what can actually be done with the buildings?  The recent City sets with roads IMHO were awful, especially when compared to the recent Creator 3/1 buildings.
    I think that's more just because the City theme tends to have less complex and detailed buildings than Creator 3-in-1 by default. I don't see the buildings in sets like #60291 and #60292 as any sort of departure from the norm in that regard — if anything, they strike me as an improvement on their previous counterparts in sets like #7641 and #8403!
    Plus, even AFOLs have been complaining for YEARS about sets like #60097, #60200, and #60271 containing disconnected buildings and scenery without any actual roads or sidewalks connecting them (as well as about the quality of the buildings themselves compared to Creator buildings).
    And anyhow, according to the designer interview that New Elementary conducted earlier this year, designers had been pushing for with a new road system like this for years, since it would allow them to include roads in sets with more varied street layouts and price points than the old 32x32 baseplates with fixed road markings (echoing the statement they provided to Brickset).
    FizyxBumblepantsMr_CrossstluxAyliffegmonkey76
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    SumoLego said:
    ^ We're not so different, you and I.
    You and I are very much alike. Archaeology is our religion, yet we have both fallen from the purer faith. Our methods have not differed as much as you pretend. I am a shadowy reflection of you. It would take only a nudge to make you like me, to push you out of the light.
    KungFuKennyMr_Crossgmonkey76SumoLegoGothamConstructionCo
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Somewhere between Ice Station Odyssey and FabulandMember Posts: 2,364
    edited July 2021
    SumoLego said:
    ^ We're not so different, you and I.
    You and I are very much alike. Archaeology is our religion, yet we have both fallen from the purer faith. Our methods have not differed as much as you pretend. I am a shadowy reflection of you. It would take only a nudge to make you like me, to push you out of the light.
    I was thinking more Austin Powers than Indiana Jones…
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTKxh3Vlek&feature=youtu.be
    Mr_CrossEGRobertsgmonkey76SumoLego
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    Yellowcastle: Kenny - that video you've posted - if it's your goal, go in peace with it, but leave us the post.  It will reduce our loss on this trip.

    KungFuKenny: We will take what we wish, and then decide whether or not to blow your post from the water.
    KungFuKennygmonkey76iwybsSumoLego
  • OldfanOldfan Chicagoland, IL, USAMember Posts: 687
    Yellowcastle: Kenny - that video you've posted - if it's your goal, go in peace with it, but leave us the post.  It will reduce our loss on this trip.

    KungFuKenny: We will take what we wish, and then decide whether or not to blow your post from the water.

    I don't know, I'm making this up as I go along...
    KungFuKennyYellowcastlegmonkey76
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,354
    I would love to get more insight like this as to how/why decisions are made behind the scenes.  Why did Castle in the Forest not pass?  Was it too close in time to The Blacksmith Forge?  Did Mos Eisley originally include a landspeeder only to have it removed for separate sale?  Are designers being forced to include road plates, this lessening what can actually be done with the buildings?  The recent City sets with roads IMHO were awful, especially when compared to the recent Creator 3/1 buildings.
    That question about Mos Eisley Cantina has been answered, fortunately!

    With regard to the Castle in the Forest, I imagine similarities with #21325 Medieval Blacksmith were decisive. Had they been divided by a couple of years, both might have been possible.
    YellowcastleAstrobricksFizyxAanchiriwybsandhe
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    Thanks, Cap.  Not sure how I missed that interview.  It still is a noticeable absence, though I personally am glad to not have had competing speeders.

    “I designed 75271 Luke's Landspeeder a few months before I started to work on the final design for 75290 Mos Eisley Cantina. Luke’s Landspeeder is iconic enough to warrant its own set because it works very well as a small vehicle that is widely recognisable and offers plenty of play value. On that basis, the Landspeeder was not considered to be an add-on for 75290 Mos Eisley Cantina when it was being designed.”
    AstrobricksFizyxiwybs
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Somewhere between Ice Station Odyssey and FabulandMember Posts: 2,364
    edited July 2021
    SumoLego said:
    ^ We're not so different, you and I.
    You and I are very much alike. Archaeology is our religion, yet we have both fallen from the purer faith. Our methods have not differed as much as you pretend. I am a shadowy reflection of you. It would take only a nudge to make you like me, to push you out of the light.
    Interestingly, about two days after this comment I saw that a local Alamo Drafthouse theater is showing the original Raiders of the Lost Ark.  I’m excited to be seeing one of the formative movies of my childhood on the big screen again tomorrow night!
    Speedman29YellowcastleMr_CrosspxchriseggshenGothamConstructionCo
  • Speedman29Speedman29 UKMember Posts: 2,150
    Interestingly, about two days after this comment I saw that a local Alamo Drafthouse theater is showing the original Raiders of the Lost Ark.  I’m excited to be seeing one of the formative movies of my childhood on the big screen again tomorrow night!
    I love seeing films from my childhood or older re-released in cinemas. Would be great if the Indy trilogy got a release over here (Crystal Skull never happened!) I watched The Italian Job (Caine original) when it was shown for its 30th anniversary in 1999. Also watch Alien for its 40th anniversary the other year.
    KungFuKennyYellowcastleMr_CrossGothamConstructionCo
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFW/BGMember Posts: 7,340
    Interestingly, about two days after this comment I saw that a local Alamo Drafthouse theater is showing the original Raiders of the Lost Ark.  I’m excited to be seeing one of the formative movies of my childhood on the big screen again tomorrow night!

    I miss Alamo Drafthouse, glad they were able to stay afloat. My friend took me to their $1 mystery movie night and we saw Class of '84. Now that is a wild time I would never have had otherwise. Also unlimited popcorn sounds great until you hit that fourth basket.
    KungFuKennyYellowcastle560HeliportMr_CrosspxchrisMarshallmario
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    edited July 2021
    I used to manage movie theaters so I had the privilege of building and showing some classics like Jaws and Rear Window... not to mention the soon to be classics Unforgiven, Jurassic Park, Tombstone, In the Line of Fire, Braveheart, A Few Good Men, Gladiator, The Patriot, etc.  Never got a chance at my all time number one Raiders. But what a fun job. :o)
    KungFuKennyBumblepantsMr_CrosspxchrisSumoLegoMarshallmarioGothamConstructionCo
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,066
    I was thinking more Austin Powers than Indiana Jones…
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTKxh3Vlek&feature=youtu.be
    I was just putting the finishing touches on my silver nehru jacket.

    But I do have an affinity for archeology.  And Indy.
    KungFuKennyYellowcastleMr_Cross
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,744
    I was thinking more Austin Powers than Indiana Jones…
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTKxh3Vlek&feature=youtu.be
    I can't believe people in the comments of that video only just discovering that Mike Myers played both Austin Powers and Dr Evil... Surely that's the whole joke.
    560HeliportKungFuKennySumoLego
  • autolycusautolycus US-SEMember Posts: 1,270
    andhe said:
    I was thinking more Austin Powers than Indiana Jones…
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTKxh3Vlek&feature=youtu.be
    I can't believe people in the comments of that video only just discovering that Mike Myers played both Austin Powers and Dr Evil... Surely that's the whole joke.
    There was a funny response to that saying, "Alright everyone. Keep this person away from Eddie Murphy films. We can’t afford to lose such a precious brain."

    I can only imagine their reaction to being told about the cast of the barber shop scenes in Coming to America!
    KungFuKennySumoLegoYellowcastlecanon03andhe
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,066
    andhe said:
    ...discovering that Mike Myers played both Austin Powers and Dr Evil...
    I'm sure their minds will melt once it is discovered Goldmember and Fat Bastard were played by the same actor as well... 
    Cymbeline560HeliportKungFuKennyCharmiefcbandhe
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    Or if they ever find out who number 2 works for...
    KungFuKennyCharmiefcbdaewoo
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,194
    5,000 sets produced is better than 10,000.
    EGRobertsKungFuKenny
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