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  • EGRobertsEGRoberts OntarioMember Posts: 37
    Odeinoichus  I just wish Ninjago would stick to 1 story... My kid loves it though, the cartoons, movie, and sets.. It has had more success then some themes which is why it is lasting. They tried to replicate the success of Ninjago with Nexo Knights but it never got the same following.. I just wish they would return to there classic themes but not fall into the same traps ie castle, castle gates, bad guy castle, carriages, more carriages and a dragon.  They need to replicate the successes of #7189 Mill Village Raid, #10192 Medieval Market Village, #6067 Guarded Inn.  Also wouldn't mind seeing some classic space and a new motorized space monerail!



  • Casper_vd_KorfCasper_vd_Korf Twente, The NetherlandsMember Posts: 155
    The thing with Ninjago and other evergreen themes is that the target groups get new kids quite quickly, so they don’t need to reinvent the wheel. Remember, the sets really ain’t made for us.
    560HeliportKungFuKennyandhestluxgmonkey76
  • ModeltrainmanModeltrainman In the Disney Infinity Toybox, Windows, or digging through LEGO parts in the USA.Member Posts: 641
    @560Heliport or... "PIIIIIIIIG NINJAAAAAAAAS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE!"
    560HeliportKungFuKennymustang69gmonkey76
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,194
    @560Heliport or... "PIIIIIIIIG NINJAAAAAAAAS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE!"
    Well, now my evening is planned! It seems Pigsy from Monkie Kid is getting a new job!
    Modeltrainmangmonkey76
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Deep in the Heart of TexasMember Posts: 1,644
    ^ "...I half expect them to go NINJAS IN SPACE or something."  You say that like it's a bad thing! :)  For me, Ninjago subthemes have always been hit or miss: some I like, some I don't. I just collect what appeals to me. Usually it's the villains I like, more than the ninjas in slightly different outfits.
    The new island theme looks interesting...


    But I agree, everything since has seemed very blah. But, I don’t watch the series at all.
    Watching the show is dangerous- Seeing the sets and characters “in story” always weakens my resolve when it comes to the Lego budget!

    I will be buying #71741 (the new Ninjago City Gardens) on day one though... at 5685 pieces it should be pretty impressive...
    jnscoelhoYo_dA
  • Diamondback_SixDiamondback_Six USAMember Posts: 137
    edited December 2020
    EGRoberts said:
    I just wish they would return to there classic themes but not fall into the same traps ie castle, castle gates, bad guy castle, carriages, more carriages and a dragon.  They need to replicate the successes of #7189 Mill Village Raid, #10192 Medieval Market Village, #6067 Guarded Inn.  Also wouldn't mind seeing some classic space and a new motorized space monerail!
    Problem is, workaday medieval towns appeal more to the historically minded while LEGO Castle has tacked more toward the pop-culture fantasy; most kids (and parents) are more interested in Knights & Castles than the villages and serfdom that were the majority's lot in life with little chance of improvement. Classic Pirates started more historical, then turned down the same path and kind of blended into a mashup of seafaring cultures--you wouldn't see many Caribbean buccaneers sharing the same waters as Polynesian islanders, and your typical pirate ship would have been more like a Renegade Runner than a brig or ketch like the Black Seas Barracuda or Skull's Eye Schooner. (SES isn't a schooner at all, schooners have their sails run down the centerline--think a Renegade Runner with an additional hull section and a second mast with only the rear sail, and that's a typical schooner like the first USS Enterprise.) Even the Imperial Flagship is rather small for a sailing warship, though her internal details are very representative of "life at sea."
    andhe
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 3,828
    edited December 2020
    ^ "...I half expect them to go NINJAS IN SPACE or something."  

    I will be buying #71741 (the new Ninjago City Gardens) on day one though... at 5685 pieces it should be pretty impressive...
    Totally up for Ninjas in Space :)

    When is NCG supposed to be released?
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 6,703
    ^ "...I half expect them to go NINJAS IN SPACE or something."  

    I will be buying #71741 (the new Ninjago City Gardens) on day one though... at 5685 pieces it should be pretty impressive...
    Totally up for Ninjas in Space :)

    When is NCG supposed to be released?
    Rumored for February, perhaps VIP mid month and wide release in March?
    KungFuKennyMr_CrossAstrobricks
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,621
    edited December 2020
    Wondering about the state of my LEGO collection. It's been in cardboard boxes for about a month, probably, and on a heated floor(in the cardboard boxes, in Ziploc bags), hoping it'll be OK ...(Can't access it, as it's now in a different state.)
    I got a #6076 that had been sitting in my uncle's un-insulated attic in NC for 30 years in the original box, and it looked the same as when it was put up there 30 years ago. Pics are over here What's your LEGO 'status' today? - Page 333 — Brickset Forum
    dpa1Modeltrainman
  • CharmiefcbCharmiefcb SydneyMember Posts: 362
    Cantina came in stock and boy am I happy about getting one. It's been out of stock since its release day. Now I'm watching my order like a hawk to see it go from In Process to In Warehouse.
    KungFuKenny
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho PortugalMember Posts: 577
    ^ "...I half expect them to go NINJAS IN SPACE or something."  You say that like it's a bad thing! :)  For me, Ninjago subthemes have always been hit or miss: some I like, some I don't. I just collect what appeals to me. Usually it's the villains I like, more than the ninjas in slightly different outfits.
    The new island theme looks interesting...


    But I agree, everything since has seemed very blah. But, I don’t watch the series at all.
    Watching the show is dangerous- Seeing the sets and characters “in story” always weakens my resolve when it comes to the Lego budget!

    I will be buying #71741 (the new Ninjago City Gardens) on day one though... at 5685 pieces it should be pretty impressive...
    I'm tempted by that dragon, 'cause I'm a sucker for dragons, but only if there are no stickers for the head. If it's printed like the Elves dragons, I'll buy it. If it's stickers, no thanks. And that's all that interests me from this new wave of NINJAGO... 
    KungFuKenny
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,583
    edited December 2020
    NINDRAGO... very beachy...

    This is truly a mish-mosh of themes.  I'm not sure I would endorse Ninjas in Space!!!
    KungFuKenny
  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,511
    doesn't seem likely to me, I don't remember hints in the show that they could go to space.
  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,511
    oh right, I think they had to rebuild their space shuttle. I don't remember why they went there
    KungFuKenny
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 3,828
    Serious ninja skills by the guy there who didn’t need a helmet in space!
    KungFuKennyFowlerBricks
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Deep in the Heart of TexasMember Posts: 1,644
    edited December 2020
    Serious ninja skills by the guy there who didn’t need a helmet in space!
    Well, Zane is a nindroid and doesn’t need to breathe, so...🙂 
    Aanchirmsanders
  • FowlerBricksFowlerBricks USAMember Posts: 1,696
    Serious ninja skills by the guy there who didn’t need a helmet in space!
    Well, Zane is a nindroid and doesn’t need to breathe, so...🙂 

    Wu did find him meditating at the bottom of a frozen lake, after all
    KungFuKennyAanchir
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 3,828
    Serious ninja skills by the guy there who didn’t need a helmet in space!
    Well, Zane is a nindroid and doesn’t need to breathe, so...🙂 
    Serious ninja skills by the guy there who didn’t need a helmet in space!
    Well, Zane is a nindroid and doesn’t need to breathe, so...🙂 

    Wu did find him meditating at the bottom of a frozen lake, after all
    Like I said - never seen the show :). Shouldn’t a ‘droid at least have a funky eye or something?
    KungFuKenny560HeliportFowlerBricks
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,897
    Feeling the stirrings of wanting something new from the LEGO Design team.

    Is it just me or does anybody else feel as if Ninjago has seriously overstayed its welcome?

    Chima, Nexo Knights, Adventurers, Bionicle, Monster Fighters, Pharaoh's Quest, Scooby-Doo and many more themes come and go and offer up new innovations and ideas. At this point I look at the Ninjago Theme and every year it's got something new, some new villain team, but the core concepts and vehicle choices still seem to linger and, I don't know, it just doesn't look or feel as innovative or creative as it once did.

    It seems tired and old hat. Hell I had more enjoyment out of Hidden Side and Monkie Kid lately compared to the Ninjago theme and after this latest wave I half expect them to go NINJAS IN SPACE or something.

    Am I crazy or is Ninjago just that stale and no longer fresh?
    Keep in mind that MOST themes that are popular enough to become long-runners tend to end up repeating certain concepts over and over again. Even in the 70s and 80s, LEGO Town kept on introducing new police stations, fire stations, gas stations, dump trucks, airplanes, and race cars. The same can be said for horse-drawn carriages, and catapults in 80s and 90s LEGO Castle sets or spaceships, rovers, and rocket launchers in 70s and 80s Space sets.
    As such, continuing to see new spinners, dragons, motorcycles, mechs, temples, and evil lairs in the Ninjago theme is the sort of thing that should be expected in a healthy long-running theme. It goes without saying that newer themes tend to bring a lot of fresh, new concepts with them — but if they end up lasting as long as Ninjago, you can probably rest assured that they'd start revisiting ideas from their early years as well.
    Plus, keep in mind that some of the most overt instances of repetition in the theme in the past few years are the Ninjago Legacy sets, which are specifically intended as recreations of popular subject matter from the series' earlier years. Rather than running the theme into the ground, sets like this ostensibly help to prolong its staying power, since they help to keep the theme accessible to newer fans who didn't get the chance to get those sorts of sets when they first came out.
    It would be much worse news for the Ninjago theme if it WEREN'T able to captivate new fans like it did in its early years. But so far it still seems to be going pretty strong even after nearly a decade.
    iwybsKungFuKennyFizyxstlux560Heliport
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,897
    Btw, for my part, I got into the theme back in its first year, although probably a few months after the first wave of sets came out — and for me, some of its most recent years have been tremendously exciting.
    And that applies not only to sets that feel totally new and groundbreaking like #70641, #70655, #70674, #70678, #71711, #71721, and #71747, but also to ones that "re-imagine" (and IMO, vastly improve upon) ones from earlier years: sets like #70670, #70679, #71705, #71735, and #71737.
    Believe it or not, even the TV series has been particularly strong in recent years. The eleventh and twelfth seasons ("Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu" and "Prime Empire") both greatly surpassed my expectations, and while I haven't watched the latest season ("Master of the Mountain") just yet, I've seen a lot of positive feedback about it from other fans!
    FizyxKungFuKenny560Heliport
  • Diamondback_SixDiamondback_Six USAMember Posts: 137
    Aanchir said:
    Keep in mind that MOST themes that are popular enough to become long-runners tend to end up repeating certain concepts over and over again. Even in the 70s and 80s, LEGO Town kept on introducing new police stations, fire stations, gas stations, dump trucks, airplanes, and race cars. The same can be said for horse-drawn carriages, and catapults in 80s and 90s LEGO Castle sets or spaceships, rovers, and rocket launchers in 70s and 80s Space sets.
    Let's put it this way... if you took EVERY Lego Town/City building set and built a city of them, including all three for each of the Creator 3-in-1s, IIRC in 40 years observing the brand your city would have police/fire stations easily overwhelm everything else.

    Similarly, every time they push out a Pirates Reboot line it has the same 4-6 basic archetypes of sets: a ship, a fort, a treasure island, a castaway raft, a shipwreck hideout and maybe a few related odds-n-ends.
    Fizyxstlux560Heliport
  • CharmiefcbCharmiefcb SydneyMember Posts: 362
    My mother saw some of the sets I have on display at my place and now wants to try for herself. I'll start her on City then see how she progresses. If Lego can tear here away from Solitaire on her computer it will be a miracle.
    bpk2300Bumblepantsgmonkey76560HeliportKungFuKennyandhe
  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,511
    Aanchir said:
    Believe it or not, even the TV series has been particularly strong in recent years. The eleventh and twelfth seasons ("Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu" and "Prime Empire") both greatly surpassed my expectations, and while I haven't watched the latest season ("Master of the Mountain") just yet, I've seen a lot of positive feedback about it from other fans!
    I'm halfway through "Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu", which is fine, but I like it less than the previous season, Sons of Garmadon and Dragons Hunters I think, it was one of the best.
    KungFuKenny560Heliport
  • bookmumbookmum londonMember Posts: 1,291
    That's beautiful @KungFuKenny. Very jealous.
    KungFuKennyBumblepantsandhe
  • OdeinoichusOdeinoichus CanadaMember Posts: 360
    Aanchir said:
    Feeling the stirrings of wanting something new from the LEGO Design team.

    Is it just me or does anybody else feel as if Ninjago has seriously overstayed its welcome?

    Chima, Nexo Knights, Adventurers, Bionicle, Monster Fighters, Pharaoh's Quest, Scooby-Doo and many more themes come and go and offer up new innovations and ideas. At this point I look at the Ninjago Theme and every year it's got something new, some new villain team, but the core concepts and vehicle choices still seem to linger and, I don't know, it just doesn't look or feel as innovative or creative as it once did.

    It seems tired and old hat. Hell I had more enjoyment out of Hidden Side and Monkie Kid lately compared to the Ninjago theme and after this latest wave I half expect them to go NINJAS IN SPACE or something.

    Am I crazy or is Ninjago just that stale and no longer fresh?
    Keep in mind that MOST themes that are popular enough to become long-runners tend to end up repeating certain concepts over and over again. Even in the 70s and 80s, LEGO Town kept on introducing new police stations, fire stations, gas stations, dump trucks, airplanes, and race cars. The same can be said for horse-drawn carriages, and catapults in 80s and 90s LEGO Castle sets or spaceships, rovers, and rocket launchers in 70s and 80s Space sets.
    As such, continuing to see new spinners, dragons, motorcycles, mechs, temples, and evil lairs in the Ninjago theme is the sort of thing that should be expected in a healthy long-running theme. It goes without saying that newer themes tend to bring a lot of fresh, new concepts with them — but if they end up lasting as long as Ninjago, you can probably rest assured that they'd start revisiting ideas from their early years as well.
    Plus, keep in mind that some of the most overt instances of repetition in the theme in the past few years are the Ninjago Legacy sets, which are specifically intended as recreations of popular subject matter from the series' earlier years. Rather than running the theme into the ground, sets like this ostensibly help to prolong its staying power, since they help to keep the theme accessible to newer fans who didn't get the chance to get those sorts of sets when they first came out.
    It would be much worse news for the Ninjago theme if it WEREN'T able to captivate new fans like it did in its early years. But so far it still seems to be going pretty strong even after nearly a decade.

    You know what, I'm sure that's fine for many folks, but lately, I don't know what it is, but Ninjago just hasn't wowed me like it once did. I tried to get all the Legacy sets, to get the designs and figures I missed initially, but a lot of them were sold out very quickly and my budget has been aimed at other Themes more.

    Hidden Side, to me, was extremely well executed and a greatly impressive launch. The same goes for Monkie Kid. I'm not sure why Ninjago has started to sour me, even all the repetition in LEGO City hasn't bothered me nearly as much as seeing yet another Ninjago wave.

    Things repeat, that is the nature of cyclical themes. There is just something about Ninjago, currently, that I'm having a hard time putting my finger on, that has completely changed my mind about the Theme.

    I feel it takes up too much focus and shelf space away from other, more deserving Themes. It includes too many character repetitions, and the charm of it has failed to catch my interest as much as it once did.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, after some of the impressive new ideas from this year Ninjago is just no longer the hot ticket item in my eyes. Despite their pricing, the Monkie Kid sets are truly impressive. I'm hoping to pick up several more in the next few months to finish all of wave 1. Provided they come back in stock at S&H.

    It's an Evergreen Theme, so I guess I expect too much out of it. I'm sure kids continue to enjoy it over and over again. I just take a look at some of the sets and... I kind of only want them for the Minifigures. And it's just not a good idea to collect LEGO Sets or Themes just for Minifigures. Or am I wrong?

    Feel free to try and change my mind, but I kind of wish we could see more buildings. I'd love to get the two sets from The Movie I missed, the City Docks and the City set proper, will have to try for them in 2021, and maybe the Gardens set will add to the actual fun of it. So perhaps not all hope is lost for some Ninjago sets. I guess I'm just tired of vehicles and mechs. Which is ironic because Monkie Kid is mostly mechs and vehicles. I have no idea, maybe I'm not articulating it very well.

    LEGO City, Super Heroes, Star Wars, I'll continue to buy them until the end I think, or at least try to, but Ninjago is starting to feel like one I can just completely ignore from now on.
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,188
    @Odeinoichus
    You're not the only one.
    I haven't purchased a Ninjago set since the movie waves finished.
    From my point of view , the Ninjago Movie builds were some of the best designed sets that have come out of Billund and everything that's come out from the theme since just hasn't had enough of a wow factor for me to purchase.
    Odeinoichusandhe
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho PortugalMember Posts: 577
    Maybe because I started collecting NINJAGO recently, I feel the opposite as you. Waves for Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu and Master of the Mountain were awesome for me, much more than TLNM. Even though it was TLNM itself that brought me into NINJAGO, because I had to watch the movie like 20 times due to my girls, I only bought Nya's mech and Lloyd's Dragon, aside from NINJAGO City, but I've been enjoying much more sets from the waves I mentioned and from Legacy, like the Monastery or the recent Destiny's Bounty, which I prefer to the one from TLNM (it was just too big for me).
    On the other hand, Hidden Side did nothing for me, I only like the Mystery Castle because I can adapt it for a NINJAGO vilain, and neither does Monkey Kid, aside from small parts of the builds that have a very cool asian vibe.
    vanvonfullKungFuKennyAanchir
  • pxchrispxchris Oregon, USAMember Posts: 1,075

    Last night I built #3681 and added some detail (fencing, entry gate, extra figs, etc)...

    Wow, that looks fantastic! The Fabuland range is such a joy!
    560HeliportKungFuKenny
  • vanvonfullvanvonfull washingtonMember Posts: 162
    We got the keys to a new house recently so I got to prove to my wife these keychains weren’t superfluous when I bought them a couple years ago. 





    I guess some will remain unused but never superfluous. 
    560HeliportKLOKRIECHERKungFuKennyFizyxFowlerBricksSumoLegoCymbelinesnowhitie
  • vanvonfullvanvonfull washingtonMember Posts: 162
    Regarding ninjago: I have been interested in the last two waves but had no Previous interest until the gamers market and associated sets showed up. I hope to finish getting all of the D&D sets eventually soon. 

    I bought a couple legacy sets, but I haven’t built them. 
    KungFuKennySumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,583
    I guess some will remain unused but never superfluous. 
    Three of them aren't even attached to keys.
    Superfluous.
    vanvonfullKungFuKenny
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 3,828
    edited December 2020
    SumoLego said:
    I guess some will remain unused but never superfluous. 
    Three of them aren't even attached to keys.
    Superfluous.
    Five keys (or sets of keys) are not yet on a lego keychain. Not superfluous :)
    vanvonfullSumoLego
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,194
    Nothing LEGO is ever superfluous. 
    SumoLegogmonkey76
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,583
    Actually, I think everything LEGO is superfluous.
    andhe
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,194
    Okay, I'll be right there to haul away all the LEGO you don't need. 
    AstrobricksSumoLegoFizyxgmonkey76andhe
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,583
    Okay, I'll be right there to haul away all the LEGO you don't need. 
    Let's not get crazy.  I meant, philosophically.
    560Heliportgmonkey76andhe
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,194
    So did I!
    SumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,583
    Speedman29 said:
    ...I fear it wouldn't survive closing the door...
    I think this is one of the few instances where I would recommend some Kragle.
    andheKungFuKenny
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,194
    SumoLego said:
    Speedman29 said:
    ...I fear it wouldn't survive closing the door...
    I think this is one of the few instances where I would recommend some Kragle.
    Did you hear what SumoLego said?! Get him!!! :)
    BumblepantsAstrobricksgmonkey76Cymbelineomniumkhopewosin
  • autolycusautolycus US-SEMember Posts: 710
    My current status is waiting in line outside the Lego store that opened 9 minutes ago. About 20 people ahead of me, store at its limited capacity. Hoping they have Elf Club House, but I forgot to call yesterday to check. Even if they got them, not sure they’ll last till me.

    Shelves did look pretty full of the big sets as I walked past to get in line though, so clearly they’re getting more stock than [email protected]
  • panchox1panchox1 The Outer RimMember Posts: 520
    So jealous. I'm too far from a Lego store to do that.
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 3,828
    That's life in the Outer Rim :-/
    560HeliportBumblepantsSumoLegoandhe
  • BastyBasty LondonMember Posts: 342
    Went to the Lego store in Watford and they got a surprise delivery of Christmas wreaths, so picked up a few of those :) 
    FizyxSumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,583
    Did you hear what SumoLego said?! Get him!!! :)
    It's a piece of art.  I think that is an exception to the anti-Kragle presumption.
  • CharmiefcbCharmiefcb SydneyMember Posts: 362
    I think Lego is selling stock they don't have yet. All the big and sought after sets are all in stock and that never happens. My Cantina has been processing for a few days now. It goes from processing to in warehouse in a few minutes usually. I reckon they're seeing how many they need and then shipping them.
    KungFuKenny
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