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1960s and 70s glued, LEGO factory produced shop window display items

GoodPlay2GoodPlay2 IpswichMember Posts: 8
It's just great when you get a bit of luck come your way isn't it. Amongst other vintage LEGO I collect glued, LEGO factory made shop window display models. I could not believe this find so I had to share with you, I hope that's OK. I never expected to even see another of these aircraft carrier models, especially as LEGO were so anti war machines back in the early/mid 1960's (when this model was made) and then last week I turned my laptop on and found on ebay UK with 25 minutes to end of auction a second copy. It needs some restoration as the previous owner somewhere during its life has done there own modifications but I am thrilled to own it. The LEGO logo was originally rectangular (as can be seen by the glue residue) but on my first model I made some oval logo out of broken flags but this time I plan to make some in the correct shape. The only major difference in construction is the insertion of the red and yellow bricks in non visible areas to I guess make construction easier on the modellers work bench. Best wishes, Chris. Ps. IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS ANY GLUED SHOP DISPLAY MODELS REGARDLESS OF CONDITION FROM THE 1960's/1970's PLEASE MESSAGE ME. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
KungFuKennyMr_Crossshikadi

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  • GoodPlay2GoodPlay2 IpswichMember Posts: 8
    Is it possible to post pictures on Brickset Forum?
  • GoodPlay2GoodPlay2 IpswichMember Posts: 8
    Pictures
  • TheOriginalSimonBTheOriginalSimonB Felixstowe Member Posts: 1,524
    Hello from down the road!

    And paging @Istokg
    GoodPlay2madforLEGO
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,104
    Were the ships made for specific stores or just general display items for toy stores? I remember Gary posting a pic of a Lego built York Minster, another taboo subject for lego.
    GoodPlay2
  • GoodPlay2GoodPlay2 IpswichMember Posts: 8
    These were as you correctly suggested made in batches in the factory then boxed up and shipped out to stores for display. They SHOULD have been returned to LEGO for destruction when there 'shelf life' was up but thankfully some have survived the riggers of time. Thanks for your interest, Chris
    Jackad7
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,191
    edited July 26
    Not a lot of these glued display models survive intact... and I am thankful that Chris (and also Henk) spend a considerable amount of time not only collecting... but in almost all cases "restoring" these old relics of LEGO history.  It is not always easy getting old replacement parts in sufficient quantities.  Truly a labor of love...
    GoodPlay2FireheartmadforLEGO
  • cody6268cody6268 Member Posts: 286
    Gorgeous sets! I really like the carrier, and am thinking I might get at reverse-engineering my own. Ordering some blue baseplates right now.
  • GoodPlay2GoodPlay2 IpswichMember Posts: 8
    If you require more images please give me a call. 
    Jackad7
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,528
    I think I'd sell body parts to get that set. 
    560HeliportJackad7SumoLegoKungFuKennydavetheoxygenman
  • Russell844Russell844 California, USAMember Posts: 1,962
    ^ ditto
  • benbacardibenbacardi EnglandMember Posts: 622
    I love that "Attention toy buyer! This is your motorised train display!" 😆
    Mr_CrossKungFuKenny560HeliportBumblepantsmadforLEGO
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,247
    oldtodd33 said:
    I think I'd sell body parts to get that set. 
    I'd sell a few of your body parts to get that set.
    560HeliportMr_CrossmadforLEGOoldtodd33flord
  • wjoeyjoneswjoeyjones USMember Posts: 19
    I posted a video on my YouTube channel of the 113 display: 
    pxchrisSumoLegoCCC560HeliportKungFuKennyIstokgmadforLEGOdavetheoxygenman
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,104
    ^ A kid on Christmas Day!

    That is an interesting switching system they used. It looks right that it goes back and forth.

    PS. Bon Marche = Good Market. It was the name of a large department store in Paris, and the one in the US was named after it but I don't think there is any connection. It is also the name of a cheap women's clothes chain in the UK.

    SumoLegoFizyx
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,247
    I love that "Attention toy buyer! This is your motorised train display!" 😆
    Imagine if Amazon did the same thing...

    "Attention online shopper!  This is your three gallon bucket of Axe Body Spray!"
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,247
    I posted a video...
    Pardon my envy of the Mickey Mouse in the bottom right corner.  Where did that come from?
    davetheoxygenman
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 1,977
    Wow! What a score!
  • wjoeyjoneswjoeyjones USMember Posts: 19
    SumoLego said:
    I posted a video...
    Pardon my envy of the Mickey Mouse in the bottom right corner.  Where did that come from?
    They where sold at Target I believe, he dances and sings...
    SumoLego
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,191
    @wjoeyjones WOW!!  What an amazing retailer display model!!  The fact that it still had its' original box (coming from the Loveland Colorado Samsonite LEGO factory), is almost unheard of.

    The first LEGO Train System sets (including the 113) came out in the summer of 1966 in Europe, but was not sold in the USA until 1968... as seen in this 1968 Samsonite LEGO retailer page...





    This is only the 2nd time I have ever seen a LEGO Train System blue track era display item.  The first I encountered was a circa 1970 continental Europe 12 volt train display track that once had a 721 12V Steam Locomotive running on the track, this item was found in France... this was to show LEGO parents how the 12V Train System worked.







    DeMontes560HeliportpxchrisFizyxAstrobricksKungFuKennymadforLEGOstlux
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,857

    SumoLego said:
    oldtodd33 said:
    I think I'd sell body parts to get that set. 
    I'd sell a few of your body parts to get that set.
    Yknow, while it is rare I actually laugh out loud at a comment, this was one of those times.

    560HeliportdavetheoxygenmanpxchrisSumoLego
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,191
    @wjoeyjones

    I just watched your video.... LOVED IT!!!  :-)

    Here's the correct early blue track era couplers by year... so that you buy the correct ones...


    Fizyx560HeliportmadforLEGOdavetheoxygenmanAstrobricksKungFuKennyDeMontes
  • wjoeyjoneswjoeyjones USMember Posts: 19
    @istokg thanks for the feed back and taking the time to check out my video.  You mentioned the couplers, and I 100% agree with you, but did you notice that the post car is using a 157 Auto Direction Changer?  Did the 157 also come with those style couplers?  I always understood them to have came with the blue and red magnets (X547c or 737ac01)?

    I do really want to put the correct coupler back with the set.  Also thanks for posting the 1968 retail page, that is a great ad for the set. 

    That 12v setup is great, I have a friend that is big into 12v he will love to see that pic.

    Again thanks Gary!
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,247
    They where sold at Target I believe, he dances and sings...
    Ah - I thought that was some sort of LEGO marketing Disney CMF/Steamboat Mickey large minifig.  
    KungFuKenny
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,191
    @istokg thanks for the feed back and taking the time to check out my video.  You mentioned the couplers, and I 100% agree with you, but did you notice that the post car is using a 157 Auto Direction Changer?  Did the 157 also come with those style couplers?  I always understood them to have came with the blue and red magnets (X547c or 737ac01)?

    I do really want to put the correct coupler back with the set.  Also thanks for posting the 1968 retail page, that is a great ad for the set. 

    That 12v setup is great, I have a friend that is big into 12v he will love to see that pic.

    Again thanks Gary!
    They mixed parts from different sets to make that display model.  The 157 parts were introduced in 1968, so there were no 157 sets with older couplings... only magnets.  But the 113 never had magnet couplings... so it was a mix of parts from different sets.
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,191
    edited September 27
    The 113 Train Set was the first "motorized" train set that TLG ever produced.  It was introduced in 1966 in Europe, and 1968 in USA/Canada.  While working on updating my Unofficial LEGO Sets/Parts Collectors Guide, I came across a large variation among the boxes, parts, and parts count for this set in different regions.

    Here they are...

    The built models come in several printed brick variations...  The bottom train is the early UK/Ireland/Australia version of 113.  The middle train is the later UK/Ireland/Australia version of 113, with white printing and blue or red background.  Both versions have UK city names on the printed bricks.  The upper train is the USA, Canada and continental European version of the printed bricks (with EU city names).  Also the 4th (top) version of the POST brick (with the horn emblem) for the postal car is the more recent version of the EU 113 set.




    Not only are the printed bricks different, but the boxes are different as well.

    Here is the continental European box version of 113...




    The UK/Ireland/Australia (British LEGO Ltd.) box version has the same box front, but the back of the box mentions "The Building Toy".  Also notice that the UK version also has the continental EU printed bricks on the box top, but has UK city (and Royal Mail) printed bricks inside.



    The USA Samsonite version of the 113 Train Set also has a different box variation... with "Motorized Train Set" on the front, and "Building Toy" on the back.



    The Canadian Samsonite version of the 113 Train Set has English/French bilingual writing on the box top and sides, as well as on the LEGO brochures and instructions included in this set...




    And if all that wasn't complicated enough... the EU/UK/Australia version of the 113 Train Set has 372 parts, while the USA version has 402 parts, and the Canadian version has 413 parts.  LEGO Mayhem!!

    Actually the major difference (with part counts) between the EU/UK/Australia version and the USA/Canada versions is due to the roof plate on the Post and passenger cars.  The EU/UK/Australia version had one large 6x24 gray baseplate as the base of the train car roofs....



    While the base of the roof of the train cars in the USA/Canada 113 Train Sets show small 2x2 and 2x4 plates...



    Also, the Canadian version of 113 also has additional 2x2 white bricks and 2x2 blue slopes... used for the bridge in the 113 model.  Interestingly enough, none of the 113 sets have enough white and blue parts to make the entire train bridge shown in the 113 box top.  This is just another example of TLG trying to get LEGO set purchasers to buy individual spare parts packs to complete a model that is shown on the box top, but there are not enough parts in the set to do so.

    For those of you who own my computer desktop download of my Unofficial LEGO Sets/Parts Collectors Guide... these are some of the future updates coming out in early 2021... upgrades free to current owners.  ;-)

    madforLEGOstluxpxchrisSumoLego
  • wjoeyjoneswjoeyjones USMember Posts: 19
    Istokg said:
    They mixed parts from different sets to make that display model.  The 157 parts were introduced in 1968, so there were no 157 sets with older couplings... only magnets.  But the 113 never had magnet couplings... so it was a mix of parts from different sets.
    Yeah I kind of figured that the Samsonite factory used what they had to make the display go back and fourth.

    A friend of mine has a set of instructions that shows the blue and red couplers for the 113 set.  I will try and get a picture of them and post them here.

    Looking forward to the new book.  I use your current version all the time, it's a great reference tool.
    Istokg
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