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Rookie needing advice please - Ghost Train 9467

BluetoneBluetone CardiffMember Posts: 4
edited June 3 in Building and Techniques
Hello all, I’m a rookie Lego builder in my early 50’s and need some help please.
Quick background, I’ve only built a few Christmas village scenes which then led to me buying the Christmas train which I motorised successfully with an IR remote.
Ive gone a bit mad recently and bought the Disney Castle 71040 and then the Disney Train & Station 71044 which already comes ‘Powered Up’.

Ive also just bought the Haunted House 10273 which led onto me purchasing a Monster Fighters Ghost train 9467 then a few Hidden Side scenes.

Can you see pattern emerging 🤣 ...,I’ve still not opened any of them as I want to open them with my granddaughter when we’re allowed to meet together indoors....hence the Disney sets.

Anyway my question is, can some one please guide me on how to motorise my Ghost train 9467.
Ive researched the net and looked on YouTube but failed but I think its me as being a newbie to Lego I don’t want to buy the wrong items as I’ve already spent a fortune. I’d prefer it to be using a Hub as the power source so I can use the functions on the powered up app but I don’t know what motors or functions I need to motorise it using Bluetooth or as an alternative use a regular battery box and IR remote.

Thinks for reading this....please help.

KungFuKenny

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  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,129
    edited June 3
    There's a couple of completed builds on E.B. but couldn't find any 'how to' guides.
    It looks like a very similar approach to how the Christmas Train is modified so shouldn't be that difficult if you've already done this. It does use the old Power Function equipment not the new stuff so don't know how useful it will be. Here's an example from the Train Tech forum.
    https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/77509-mod-9467-monster-fighters-ghost-train-with-pf/&tab=comments#comment-1470182
    This might also be helpful.
    https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/54563-the-train-techopedia-tutorial-discussion-index/&tab=comments#comment-1516169
  • panchox1panchox1 The Outer RimMember Posts: 455
    I don't have the Ghost Train but I do have the Hidden Side Ghost train express. my plan to motorize that one is to build a custom box car similar to the one included and hide the powered up hub inside it and place this directly behind the engine. similar to how the Disney train has the powered up components in the tender. 

    I'm also fairly new to the hobby and in my early 50's. Started last fall by wanting to Plan to have a train around my Christmas tree that my three year old wouldn't instantly destroy and a Lego one seemed to fit the bill. Ended up with a full blown winter village. Now my house is over flowing with Lego as my wife has joined in the hobby with me. 
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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,864
    I powered one years ago. I used a standard PF train motor for the engine. It is typical to put the battery box and IR receiver into the tender but this doesn't have one. I flipped the carriages around, so the cage-like carriage was essentially a tender but I seem to recall it had to be both lengthened (by a fair bit) and widened to get the components in. I don't use the new app/hub stuff so cannot help there, although whatever you will do you will need to gut some of the train and carriages to get the components in.

    If you have any electronics experience or RC car experience, some of the modern batteries and receivers can be connected up to LEGO motors if you don't mind cutting a cable. And they are significantly smaller than the old PF battery boxes and the large IR receiver.

    I suggest that you build it as normal first time you open it, before starting to worry about powering it. That way your grand-daughter will get the fun of the build and the (manual) play without the hours of frustration with you trying to work out how to modify it. You can do that later!



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  • BluetoneBluetone CardiffMember Posts: 4
    Hi all, big thanks to your quick replies, it’s much appreciated.

    Bandit778, those links are really helpful thank you

    Panchox1, thank you, I too went mad on the Christmas village and bought 4 scenes, some old retired sets. They were worth it seeing my granddaughters faces when they saw them set up as I also bought the light sets for them including the train.

    CCC, I‘ll do as you say and build it with her and then look at motorising it afterwards.

    To all,
    Do you think the following will do the job as I already have them on my Christmas Train -
    Power Functions Train Motor 88002
    Power Functions AAA Battery 88000
    Power Functions IR Receiver 8884
    Power Functions IR Speed Remote Control 8879

    I already have a Powered Up 88009 Hub & Powered Up 88011 Train Motoron my new Disney Train 71044 which I haven’t yet opened. 

    I think I was getting confused as I’m sure that on my Winter Holiday train the locomotive was powered and not the tender. 



    panchox1
  • panchox1panchox1 The Outer RimMember Posts: 455


    I think I was getting confused as I’m sure that on my Winter Holiday train the locomotive was powered and not the tender. 



    I believe that, if you followed the instruction book on adding motorization, this would be correct. I used powered up components in mine and just put it all in the tender. 
  • BluetoneBluetone CardiffMember Posts: 4
    Panchox1,
    the list I mentioned that I used on my winter holiday train which went on the loco, do you think would work on the ghost train loco rather than trying to adapt a carriage / tender.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,864
    Bluetone said:

    Do you think the following will do the job as I already have them on my Christmas Train -
    Power Functions Train Motor 88002
    Power Functions AAA Battery 88000
    Power Functions IR Receiver 8884
    Power Functions IR Speed Remote Control 8879




    Yes, that is enough to power and control it. Well, plus batteries of course. Lots of batteries (get two sets of rechargeables). 
  • panchox1panchox1 The Outer RimMember Posts: 455
    Bluetone said:
    Panchox1,
    the list I mentioned that I used on my winter holiday train which went on the loco, do you think would work on the ghost train loco rather than trying to adapt a carriage / tender.
    yes, that should work just fine. 
  • SirBrickalotOfLegoSirBrickalotOfLego WalesMember Posts: 488
    Unrelated, but cool to see a fellow Welsh member! @Bluetone
  • BluetoneBluetone CardiffMember Posts: 4
    Hi SirBrickalot,
    where are you in Wales
  • SirBrickalotOfLegoSirBrickalotOfLego WalesMember Posts: 488
    Bluetone said:
    Hi SirBrickalot,
    where are you in Wales
    I live in Newport, so not far from you at all.
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