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  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    Agreed. I have most the Fair Ground items, but Roller Coaster is a pass. I have a number of modulars, but Assembly Square is a hard pass. 

    klintonSumoLegoOubird
  • MrJacksonMrJackson Member Posts: 454
    See, I think Assembly Square is the best of the entire line (though I don't yet have the Corner Garage).  The Parisian Restaurant was my all-time favorite set until it was dethroned, and that was by AS - and I built a lot of sets in between. I will say, due to its price point, we didn't sell a ton of them when I worked at Lego, but it's a wonderful set, even with the high price tag. I don't disagree with the parallel to the Roller Coaster, as that's the one Fairground set I don't have myself - honestly, it just takes up too much room, in all three dimensions at that. At least while the UCS Falcon has a massive footprint, it's not particularly tall.
    klintonSnizzlebutts
  • klintonklinton Member Posts: 1,256
    This is clearly further evidence of why I am not in marketing. :p

    It seems the most interesting 'gateway drug', IMHO. Like, I've never really been drawn to the modulars, but I've considered grabbing this one as kind of an 'all in one' backdrop for setting up my superhero minifigs on. It seems to me a much cheaper option than buying up several separate models for the same effect. 
    SumoLegojuggles7Baby_YodaMr_CrossJackad7Snizzlebutts
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,555
    amok said:
    I'm sure Assembly Square will stay around for a couple more years...
    It's not a round, it's a square.

    pharmjod said:
    Don't be so sure.

    I also cannot see it lasting too much longer. It has had about 2.5 years already. I suspect it will make 3 but not 4. Although I'm not investing in it either way.
    tamamahmBaby_Yodagmonkey76AanchirSnizzlebutts
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Member Posts: 5,555
    klinton said:
    This is clearly further evidence of why I am not in marketing. :p

    It seems the most interesting 'gateway drug', IMHO. Like, I've never really been drawn to the modulars, but I've considered grabbing this one as kind of an 'all in one' backdrop for setting up my superhero minifigs on. It seems to me a much cheaper option than buying up several separate models for the same effect. 

    Things that are cheap(er) make much better gateway drugs. Lower price of entry. For me it was discounted Pet Shops. 
    ReesesPiecesklintongmonkey76CurvedRoadPlate
  • ReesesPiecesReesesPieces Member Posts: 1,131
    Astrobricks said:

    Things that are cheap(er) make much better gateway drugs. Lower price of entry. For me it was discounted Pet Shops. 
    That is why the first one is always free, to get people hooked...or at least in the movies.
    SumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,239
    klinton said:
    This is clearly further evidence of why I am not in marketing. :p
    I don't know anything about marketing, either.  How and why the Tower Bridge has such an unnaturally long life mystifies me.

    But... I trust this group of LEGO marketing people to continue to sell me everything I didn't know I wanted, but that I cannot live without.
    Astrobricksklintongmonkey76560HeliportRonyarM1J0EMr_Cross
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,239
    ReesesPieces said:
    That is why the first one is always free, to get people hooked...or at least in the movies.
    You know, the first taste is free... then you have to pay for the rest.
    gmonkey76ReesesPieces
  • Baby_YodaBaby_Yoda Member Posts: 1,295
    klinton said:
    This is clearly further evidence of why I am not in marketing. :p

    It seems the most interesting 'gateway drug', IMHO. Like, I've never really been drawn to the modulars, but I've considered grabbing this one as kind of an 'all in one' backdrop for setting up my superhero minifigs on. It seems to me a much cheaper option than buying up several separate models for the same effect. 
    I do see what you mean - like how one might buy a starter set for the Ninjago spinners before any individual products.
    klinton
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Member Posts: 2,368
    edited August 2019
    Did a little search— looks like Timmy has been making Brickset appearances for quite awhile... poor guy!  ;-)
    gmonkey76Pitfall69Baby_YodaBumblepantsSumoLegosid3windrGibbo1959LittleLoriJackad7
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,555
    ^^ Timmy needs to shut his mouth.
    SumoLegoBumblepantsGothamConstructionCoFizyxmaaaaaaapharmjod
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Member Posts: 2,368
    edited August 2019
    @Bumblepants

    ^ that’s truly frightening... BTW the “1” in the middle of all the exclamation points is what made it for me...
    BumblepantsPapaBear
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,728
    KungFuKenny said:
    @Bumblepants

    ^ that’s truly frightening... BTW the “1” in the middle of all the exclamation points is what made it for me...
    In 2012 or 2013 a former frequent of these forums named @LegoFanTexas posted a picture of the shopping cart full of clearace he had gathered. It sparked a great outrage on behalf of the mythical Timmy who was denied by the evil reseller crowd. It was a wild time for sure. If you want some good laughs I suggest going all the way back to the origins of this thread and skimming through some of it.
    SumoLegogmonkey76dougtsPitfall69RonyarPapaBearjuggles7KungFuKenny
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Member Posts: 2,368
    ^ I have been a Brickset lurker for quite a while but not back to 2012... I haven’t seen anything from @LegoFanTexas in quite a while... I will definitely go back and check those posts out!
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,555
    Little Timmy started out as an excuse to buy LEGO for yourself ("This one is for Little Timmy ..."), but then quickly became the child losing out by not being able to get Sun promos, then missing out at general clearances.

    Timmy should have learned by now to get what he wants when he wants, although he is probably mid-teens now so may well be leaving lego behind for a while. But have you met his little sister Tammy ...

    KungFuKennygmonkey76Gibbo1959Pitfall69maaaaaaaRonyarLittleLoriJackad7
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,555
    edited August 2019
    Bumblepants said:
    KungFuKenny said:
    @Bumblepants

    ^ that’s truly frightening... BTW the “1” in the middle of all the exclamation points is what made it for me...
    In 2012 or 2013 a former frequent of these forums named @LegoFanTexas posted a picture of the shopping cart full of clearace he had gathered. It sparked a great outrage on behalf of the mythical Timmy who was denied by the evil reseller crowd. It was a wild time for sure. If you want some good laughs I suggest going all the way back to the origins of this thread and skimming through some of it.
    There was also another user (2011Legomaniac), posting in the "how big is your collection" thread.

    It started off here


    but the photos have been removed although there is still one here:


    Clearly stock rather than collection.



    Of course LFT may have posted his inventory too at some stage.

    KungFuKenny
  • dougtsdougts Member Posts: 4,110
    Man all that seems like yesterday. I actually own the 4th post in this 668 page thread.  Long since our of the reeling game, and my own LEGO collecting has gone down about 80%, but I still lurk these days.  This thread always catches my eye when it has activity.  
    BumblepantsM1J0ESumoLegoPitfall69Jackad7
  • MCNwakeboardMCNwakeboard Member Posts: 321
    You could make a dramatic comedy best-selling book out of this thread. It’s fun to look back on those predictions and those off-topic discussions. 
    BumblepantsSumoLegoJackad7
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,728
    MCNwakeboard said:
    You could make a dramatic comedy best-selling book out of this thread. It’s fun to look back on those predictions and those off-topic discussions. 
    I love seeing stuff like 'The Death Star is down to 200 units on Amazon, now is probably the time to buy if you still want one' - December 2011

    Here we are in 2019 and apart from a brief few months when they updated to modern minifigs and adjusted the price its still on shelves.
    KungFuKennyGothamConstructionCogmonkey76SumoLegoMCNwakeboardPitfall69Baby_Yoda
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,239
    ^ See also #10214 Tower Bridge; #10220 Volkswagen T1 Camper Van; #10243 Parisian Restaurant
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  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    MCNwakeboard said:
    You could make a dramatic comedy best-selling book out of this thread. It’s fun to look back on those predictions and those off-topic discussions. 
    I am always wanting to read this thread from start to finish, but I ultimately come to my senses and decide that even Gungans have better things to do.

    @Bumblepants ; I see that you posted a meme. Im.sure it is allowed seeing that this thread is just one big meme ;) I don't know if there will some sort of cosmic explosion for doing so or if it is the same as two streets with the same name intersecting one another....Maybe you have just reached the nexus of the universe.
    KungFuKennygmonkey76
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,728
    Pitfall69 said:
    MCNwakeboard said:
    You could make a dramatic comedy best-selling book out of this thread. It’s fun to look back on those predictions and those off-topic discussions. 
    I am always wanting to read this thread from start to finish, but I ultimately come to my senses and decide that even Gungans have better things to do.

    @Bumblepants ; I see that you posted a meme. Im.sure it is allowed seeing that this thread is just one big meme ;) I don't know if there will some sort of cosmic explosion for doing so or if it is the same as two streets with the same name intersecting one another....Maybe you have just reached the nexus of the universe.
    The rules don't apply in this thread. Especially when you spend hours to generate quality content like I did.
    Pitfall69KungFuKennyLobotsid3windrgmonkey76OubirdJackad7
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    I'm still waiting for someone to cite this thread in their "Economy 101" termpaper. "The economic and social ramifications of Hungrystan"
    gmonkey76Jackad7
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Member Posts: 2,368
    Re-reading old post from this thread makes me laugh, but also make me cry when I am reminded of the sets I didn't pull the trigger on ( #10194, #10210...)
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,836
    Wow... so the #10214 Tower Bridge actually shows Out of Stock/Call to check for product availability for the US S@H site.
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  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Member Posts: 2,368
    madforLEGO said:
    Wow... so the #10214 Tower Bridge actually shows Out of Stock/Call to check for product availability for the US S@H site.
    I have a couple for quick sale - only 2x RRP!  🙂
    FollowsClosely
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,836
    thebrickfan.com has a list of sets rumored for retirement
    BumblepantsKungFuKenny
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu Member Posts: 2,318
    Considering how hit & miss the last few 'soon to be retired' lists have been, I'll take most of what is listed with a grain of salt, though some of them are no-brainers, it's a surprise some of them hadn't already been retired.
    Baby_YodaSnizzlebutts
  • KungFuKennyKungFuKenny Member Posts: 2,368
    edited November 2019
    madforLEGO said:
    thebrickfan.com has a list of sets rumored for retirement
    I’ve found his sources to be pretty accurate in the past.  I’m a little surprised that #21309 Saturn V is going— it had seemed to have pretty big appeal amongst folks who aren’t usually buying Lego for themselves.  Maybe TLG made a ton of sets in the subsequent waves of production and feel like they have sold as much as is justified by the shelf space allocation it takes up.  

    Definitely glad I have my #70620 and #70657 tucked away, although my long planned Ninjago City expansion layout has taken a back seat to a long list of other projects.  

    I wonder why Aragog’s Lair #75950 is the only HP set from the original books/movies to be retiring...I wonder if it has the potential that #4865 demonstrated in the aftermarket... for such a small set it sure sold well after retirement.  Although it did have Narcissa Malfoy which I believe was an exclusive fig, while the neither of the figs in the AL set are...
    Snizzlebutts
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,239
    ^ Nobody likes spiders.
    flordKungFuKennyCathyVT
  • BrickByBrickBrickByBrick Member Posts: 748
    edited November 2019
    ^^ I doubt it will be to the same extent, part of the big draw of #4865 was likely the figures with Narcissa being exclusive, Aragogs lair only has Ron and Harry and both of those figures appear in the same outfit in other sets. 
    madforLEGOSnizzlebutts
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    With Lego acquiring Bricklink; how will.this affect the Secondary Market???
  • RonyarRonyar Member Posts: 373
    I do wonder how much data mining LEGO will be able to do with the Bricklink sales data.  They should be able to figure out pretty quickly what sets and parts are in high demand.  Wonder how that will play out?  More reissued sets?  Reintroduction of parts that are not in production any more but sell well?  I could see it causing definite uncertainty going forward for resellers. 
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,239
    Uncertainty in some areas, and probably better protection in other areas.  

    For instance, I could see LEGO scarfing up all of a certain set if controversy occurs.  
  • shikadishikadi Member Posts: 140

    SumoLego said:
    Uncertainty in some areas, and probably better protection in other areas.  

    For instance, I could see LEGO scarfing up all of a certain set if controversy occurs.  
    what's stopping them from doing that now?
    AstrobricksLyichirdatsunrobbie
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,836
    edited November 2019
    Like I noted in another thread, this just seems 'off' to me. I just see LEGO meddling too much into something good, or worse yet-like others noted- using it to trash the secondary market.
    I guess I just see more negatives than positives to this, especially after seeing LEGO's 'improving' of the VIP point system.
    560Heliportgmonkey76VorpalRyu
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,555
    I think it is a negative, as a single company now controls the primary market and is a major player in the secondary market. It also gives them access to a list of resellers, and they can stop those sellers from purchasing direct from LEGO, stopping access to exclusives.
  • MCNwakeboardMCNwakeboard Member Posts: 321
    I'm not a huge fan of the acqusition. I've felt in the last 4 years, TLG has been focused on making it more expensive to be an AFOL with the discontinuation of discounts on Creator Expert sets, elimination of discounts connected to Brick conventions, banning of resellers. I understand they want to have enough products for many consumers but could do that with purchase limits. I'm not using Bricklink as much lately because I don't have a lot of time/space to MOC but I think it's a pretty good platform currently. 
  • Bosstone100Bosstone100 Member Posts: 1,431
    I equate this to Disney buying the Star Wars franchise. What could go wrong?
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  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Member Posts: 5,555
    We are now discussing this topic in three threads at least.
    Any speculation on discontinued sets?
    Snizzlebutts
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho Member Posts: 704
    Astrobricks said:
    Any speculation on discontinued sets?
    Yes, both The Brick Fan and zusammengebaut had lists of sets that are going to be retired. Many of them have been on sale this week.
    madforLEGOAstrobricksgmonkey76LittleLori
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,836
    Many will also be on sale throughout this weekend apparently as well.
    gmonkey76
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,836
    Wow, so the Holiday train set went from on sale to retired in under a day
    KungFuKenny
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho Member Posts: 704
    Don't worry, it returns next year. 
    PapaBear
  • roxioroxio Member Posts: 1,384
    jnscoelho said:
    Don't worry, it returns next year. 
    Unlikely, 2019 was its 4th xmas.
    pharmjod
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho Member Posts: 704
    I guess we'll have to wait to know. 
  • milambermilamber Member Posts: 637
    Not retired in the UK yet. Wish it would :)
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho Member Posts: 704
    It doesn't say retired, but it's OOS and may not return, as usual during this time of year for many of the sets being retired.
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