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The films did a decent job of conveying the characters for a while there until it all came off the rails and went completely into left field. "Age of Ultron" was the last enjoyable film in the lot, but started to dabble with divergent character presentations. By the time GotG rolled around, they had completely jettisoned everything about the characters, save the names. It was unrecognizable rubbish. It's been a steady downhill sh*tstorm ever since (with, perhaps the exception of BP). "Infinity War" was a complete affront. It was actally painful to watch.
The reason most "fans" enjoy the films is because they were never fans prior to the films' existence. Which is perfectly fine, btw. The flms are their own animal and have attracted a global audience that the comics just never could. They are in no way any sort representation of what came before though. /shrug
And that's not an endorsement of version or another. Some comic storylines are good, some are so unintelligible and convoluted that there is no sense. And, comic books are long-form, whereas a movie is not.
I wouldn't waste my energy being mad about how characters are portrayed in a different medium as long as the story is engaging and entertaining. I happen to love the Long Halloween, but I can't imagine any filmmaker taking the time to really do the story justice.
The merchandising alone makes the films most welcome, imho. I just don't like the actual movies. Mad props to the billions of people who do though. Keep the machine rolling! ;)
Adapting written works for film is rarely an easy task & usually the movie will fall short of the original source material, when it comes to comics, there's plenty of older productions that prove this, such as the original Incredible Hulk tv series/tv movies with David Bruce Banner, the original Amazing Spider-Man films (as in before Maguire), etc, I loved them as a kid, but now they really show their age.
Marvel Studios is still streets ahead of Sony's attempts at FF (especially the last one) & the first Spider-Man films (they did much better with Garfield), or Fox's attempts at X-Men.
Aside from Civil War, which he's still the conscience, but gets a little gritty nonetheless.
I have enjoyed pretty much all of the recent Marvel films, from the first Iron Man film to Infinity War. Weakest one for me was GotG2.
I did like all of the Xmen films done recently too (the McAvoy Xavier ones - not the first set done purely by Bryan Singer.
A good set of villains goes a long way - and that's why Spiderman wins it for me as my favourite Superhero. Such a range of worthy adversaries. Same reason Batman is my favourite DC Superhero (not a fan of DC generally).
Yes, of course, the films outshine the original Cap comics published in the 40s. Most grade school prose is better than that rubbish. There are decades of material though, ranging from the mediocre to the bizarre to the absolutely profound. Having picked up a comic or two and declaring yourself an expert on the entire canon is a bit obtuse.
Don't'cha think?
Having not ever read any of the captain America comics but loving him as a character it totally makes sense to hear a super patriotic man with a relatively rigid moral and ethical code that grew up in 1920s-1940s America make those statements, but perhaps that's just me. Though not terribly accurate now, the USA was once a predominantly "Christian" nation.
As for language, I knew a number of my family members who served in WWII, even in their later years, they rarely used profanities & even rarer still around women. I can still remember my dad's father tearing shreds off me for saying "bloody idiot" in front of all our female family members when I was in my early twenties. The casual use of profanity is very much a recent thing, which would have been heavily frowned upon in the 1940's, which is why US General Patton's reputation for cursing & swearing was so shocking for a long time after his death.
Fact is, the CA films gloss over a few issues someone like Steve would have had coming directly from the 1940's, such not using certain words & that he'd need to understand that certain communities are now accepted in polite society, regardless of what the bible says.
The "F" word gets used so much it should not even count as profanity any more.
I make the same jokes when someone uses a quantitative value for something that either is or isn't.
Like being a 'little' pregnant. Or in this case, a 'little' obtuse. (You're either obtuse or not...)
Or is everyone pretending NOT to see the elephant in the room?
#ThanosDemandsYourSilence and whatnot.
I once was reading a film score website about the music to the original Avengers film, and some careless person just casually mentioned he liked the music that plays at the end when Thanos appears. Before the movie was even released in the states. I was livid.