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Fact: Next (not) UCS set to be Cloud City

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  • BrainsluggedBrainslugged England (the grim North)Member Posts: 1,720
    I feel this would have looked so much better and more displayable if it had just been made fully round. Then maybe it could have had a detachable landing bay - or at least make an entire quadrant a landing bay. As it is, it just looks a bit too messy and lacking cohesion to work well as a display piece.

    They could also have jacked the entire thing up an inch or two on a few transparent bricks just to give the impression it was floating.

    With those changes, it would be a lot easier to forgive other minor gripes like the wrong colour cloud car.
    gmonkey76J0rgen
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 1,953
    The last few hundred posts are difficult reading but I'm not joining the masses and will be making a purchase here, and probably also putting on display (a lazy Susan would probably help if I could rig one up to show the full variety of rooms).

    Yes it's not perfect but very few sets are. One of the users of the site or forum said something to the effect of "if you don't like it - build a better one with the same number of parts" and I'm inclined to agree with them. The designers got given a price point they might not have had a say on, and they designed the set accordingly. Also, very few people ever really complained about the open 'doll house' quadrants of the Death Star and it's a top seller, so they had no reason to avoid the quadrant format based on prior experience.

    Objectively though, I will admit that the box art is pretty much the worst I've ever seen - and I've seen Clickits products.
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  • Baby_YodaBaby_Yoda The world's backsideMember Posts: 1,295
    This set on a Lazy Susan would be really cool, actually. There aren't many sets that are equally appealing from all sides, and when they are, it's a pain trying to display them (I'm looking at you, Ninjago City Docks).
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    ^If you can score a store display some of them have a knob where you can spin the set that is on display. Most of them come with LED lighting with motion detectors. It would make a neat display piece in spite of the set ;)
    Baby_Yoda
  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 386
    You can get some pretty large cake turntables. Would one of those do?
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 6,980
    Next level would be a pottery wheel with a foot pedal and building it as it goes around.
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  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    ^Are you having a "Ghost" moment. Don't give @Legoboy any ideas; he mentioned building a Lego set today, he might want to reenact that scene :0
    gmonkey76The_RancorAstrobricksSwitchfoot55Legoboy
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    You could do one of those song montages and build a Death Star, a la Spiderman: Homecoming.
    Switchfoot55
  • GremerGremer The Commonwealth of VirginiaMember Posts: 183
    I like it. I don't know how they could have made it much better without jacking up the price, at which point there would be complaining about a $500 Cloud City set. I do agree that it should have been fully round and the landing platform jut out from one of the quadrants, but then there's the issue of what to put there.

    I really hated the doll house style of the DS but I don't mind it so much here. One of my issues with the DS is that a lot of rooms felt wasted. The droid repair bay, the crane room below the docking bay and the "basement" and even some that were used feel very empty. This doesn't really have the same issues. It's only as big as it needs to be, at least to me.
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  • Baby_YodaBaby_Yoda The world's backsideMember Posts: 1,295
    Come to think of it, this set would be amazing for use with a Star Wars RPG like Edge of Empire...
    Umandraug
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,570
    So I'll need to work about 22 hours of overtime this week to buy #75222 on September 13th... let's see what happens to my (already questionable) sanity!
    Switchfoot55
  • plasticpeteplasticpete Member Posts: 70
    I agree with the Rancor above. after reading through the many posts. i would just like to say its Lego. If you don't like how they have designed it, stop moaning and just don't buy it. Or you could either make your own set, or as I am thinking about doing. Change some areas to how I think they should look. 
  • msandersmsanders Member Posts: 1,006
    I was a bit on the fence about it. I could imagine having some great fun playing with the set with my son, but as a display piece it doesn`t really excite me. Having said all of that, I just checked online (Switzerland homepage) and its priced at 499 CHF (Swiss Francs). Thats the same as the Hogwarts castle but a much less impressive build. Whats worse still is that translates as £385 in todays money so well overpriced compared to UK and the other European prices. I have noticed recently that the Swiss shop is becoming super expensive so I definitely won`t be buying this anytime soon....! 

    I think I can build most of this out of my own pieces so I will likely give that a go similar to what I did with the Assault on Hoth set. 
    maaaaaaa
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    edited August 2018
    Maybe it is because I'm tired because I had to get up early...Thanks @Legoboy j/k :) , but it annoys me to no end when someone basically posts "If you don't like the set; shut the f**k up and don't buy it then" Aren't we all entitled to our opinions and constructive criticism? 
    gmonkey76oldtodd33
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,771
    Pitfall69 said:
    Maybe it is because I'm tired because I had to get up early...Thanks @Legoboy j/k :) , but it annoys me to no end when someone basically posts "If you don't like the set; shut the f**k up and don't buy it then" Aren't we all entitled to our opinions and constructive criticism? 
    No, so shut the f**k up. :-)

    I'm not a fan of it, but I might buy some of the minifigures on BL. Although I cannot see the parts being that high a value (compared to the set) so the minifigures will be expensive to compensate. It is one that I hope a lot of people won't buy so it needs significant discount to shift.

    The title also needs to be changed (like the UCS MF thread) to show that Cloud City was not the next UCS, as it isn't a UCS set.

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  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,831
    Pitfall69 said:
    Maybe it is because I'm tired because I had to get up early...Thanks @Legoboy j/k :) , 
    Only when it’s time to kick you out do you get up early.
    Pitfall69
  • BrainsluggedBrainslugged England (the grim North)Member Posts: 1,720
    This will probably be like Assault on Hoth for me. I mainly wanted that for the two droids and only finally pulled the trigger when Lego had it at 40% off just before being discontinued. Really glad I have it in my collection for that price though as I'd wanted a white protocol droid since passing on the last one.

    Luke, Bespon Leia, Lando and the Cloud Car Pilots (I guess) are the main draw with the Bespin set. I think I would have to try to make it round to make it a bit more cohesive rather than looking like a bunch of vignettes (to the untrained eye).
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 4,496
    CCC said:
    The title also needs to be changed (like the UCS MF thread) to show that Cloud City was not the next UCS, as it isn't a UCS set.

    And it isn’t a rumor.
  • BrainsluggedBrainslugged England (the grim North)Member Posts: 1,720
    I only just noticed that Han's legs are printed on the side. That's a first isn't it?
    gmonkey76
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 2,104
    Title change lol
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    edited August 2018
    SMC said:
    Title change lol
    Betrayal at Cloud City is the first set in the Star Wars: Master Builder Series.

    (Ooo... that's wordy.)
  • BobflipBobflip Member Posts: 622
    edited August 2018
    Well, it's the first official Star Wars: Master Builder Series set. Like the debates on which is the first modular, I can see future discussions about whether or not the Death Star, Assault on Hoth and Ewok Village should be continue to be considered UCS, or reassigned to honourary SW:MB to differentiate them.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    (Ewok Village isn't a UCS, although it's probably the most worthy of the UCS designation, but definitely a SW:MB once that re-release comes down the pike/pipe in 3/4 years...)
    CCCBobflip
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 4,496
    edited August 2018
    SumoLego said:
    (Ewok Village isn't a UCS, although it's probably the most worthy of the UCS designation, but definitely a SW:MB once that re-release comes down the pike/pipe in 3/4 years...)
    You’re expecting it in just 9 months? Time to start a new rumor thread :)
    Baby_Yoda
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    I'm claiming foresight based on baseless speculation!
    Johnyk668
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,771
    Redbullgivesuwind said:
    So according to Mandrproductions on YouTube the next UCS set is going to be Cloud City, and will retail for $500. According to his source this is maybe a replacement for the Death Star and will be a large play set. In the video he then goes on about the various potential options. 


    Back to the start of the thread, I still see the Death Star as outliving Cloud City.
    Baby_Yodagmonkey76Redbullgivesuwind
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    I predict the Death Star will be replaced by the Death Star.
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  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 873
    So now that playsets are officially a thing, what’s next?  
    - a large Mos Eisley with expanded cantina, droid hiding room, and Docking Bay 94?
    - a larger and complete Jabba’s palace?
    -Yavin 4 (with Rogue One and Rebels features as well)?

    Or perhaps something from the prequels:
    - Naboo (Theed Palace)
    - Coruscant

    Or maybe something from the sequels?

    VorpalRyuAstrobrickspharmjodBaby_YodaAddicted2Oxygen
  • pxchrispxchris Oregon, USAMember Posts: 1,477
    I would absolutely love to see a large Mos Eisley cantina play set.
    560HeliportSumoLegogmonkey76Baby_YodaJohnyk668
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,771
    pxchris said:
    I would absolutely love to see a large Mos Eisley cantina play set.
    If LEGO does take on board comments about AoH, I think the chances of that are quite small. Anything they do is likely to look like a rehash of #75052 plus #75205 just like AoH is a combination of other previous sets. And if they have learnt from that, why bother? For the cantina itself, I don't think adding more bricks really adds to the play value, so they might as well just make lower price point models like that (or combinations of lots of smaller vignettes as a MBS set).

    A docking bay would need to have a small MF in it, and again, it would just be something like a midi scale #7778 rehash.
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 4,496
    pxchris said:
    I would absolutely love to see a large Mos Eisley cantina play set.
    This seems somewhat likely to me, if we’ve interpreted the meaning of Master Builder Series correctly. TLG has certainly shown they aren’t averse to rehashes, especially for the OT.
    560Heliport
  • BrainsluggedBrainslugged England (the grim North)Member Posts: 1,720
    ^I don't think adding a title of Master Builder Series to that of UCS is going to mean Lego will release any more sets. I suspect that some will now just be UCS and some MBS simply to avoid arguments and disappointments.

    As someone already mentioned though, where would the sandcrawler lie? With or without plaque, for me it's easily a UCS, with the added bonus of being almost minifigure scaled and having great play features. 
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Brickset's Secret HeadquatersMember Posts: 1,962
    @hoyatables the Jedi temple is absolutely crying out to become a master builder set. You could include several rooms on different levels. And scenes and characters from the prequel films. A Jedi chamber with some of the Jedi council, young Anakin Qui Gon and Obi Wan. Youngling training room with a couple of padawans and Yoda. Entrance hall with Jedi knight and a couple of 501st. Library with Jocsta and Asoka. 

    I think it would sell because those who grew up with the prequels and are more inclined to like them are older and have the disposable income to buy it. 
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  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 386
    A Cantina MBS woulld give the opportunity for a nice little posse of cantina aliens. Off the top of my head, Hammerhead, Walrus Man, Snaggletooth, the barkeep, Greedo, the band, the spy who tipped off the stormtroopers, and I think there was one with four arms and a wolfman (at least in the original edition). But a lot of these would require special designs or custom moulds, which would be more work, so might be off-putting. But then if TLG left them out, folks like us would whinge and complain. So they'd have to judge if the extra work is worth it, especially after the flak they got for AoH, and even for BaCC over the carbn freeze chamber a not long ago. Basically, I think they could do it, but they'd have to wait a few years for their most recent cantina to gather dust, and introducing the new elements that would be desired might be more trouble than it's worth.

    In relation to PT sets, I think it's difficult. @Redbullgivesuwind makes a good point that those of us who grew up with the PT are older and getting disposable income, but of the suitably-affluent-to-buy-expensive-Lego population, we're still very much a minority. There's also a bit of an undertone in SW fan culture, a kind of social pressure to conform to the view that the PT is an abomination (I exagerate). (I should also point out that I don't believe anyone is deliberately or consciously pressuring others to conform, it's more that moaning about PT is so prevalent that the end result is an unwillingness to challenge or offer a contrary personal opinion.) Until TLG thinks PT sets have a wide enough appeal to make a PT MBS fiscally sound, they won't do it. I would also note that the two PT UCS kits they've done get derided quite a bit.
    Redbullgivesuwind
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    Kaitch said:
    ...Walrus Man...
    Ponda Baba!?!?

    He's an accomplished architect.
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  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    SumoLego said:
    Kaitch said:
    ...Walrus Man...
    Ponda Baba!?!?

    He's an accomplished architect.
    After that rough day in the Cantina; he spent the rest of his years in the casino as a one armed bandit and is now retired and now paints landscapes as a hobby. Life is not as tusk as it once was ;)
    SumoLegogmonkey76560Heliport
  • BobflipBobflip Member Posts: 622
    SumoLego said:
    (Ewok Village isn't a UCS, although it's probably the most worthy of the UCS designation, but definitely a SW:MB once that re-release comes down the pike/pipe in 3/4 years...)
    IT BEGINS

    (though yeah, I made a mistake there)
  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 386
    I love that I make reasoned argument, and it immediately degenerates into bad puns.
    BumblepantsCM4SSumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    Kaitch said:
    I love that I make reasoned argument, and it immediately degenerates into bad puns.
    Could be worse - memes and Dad jokes.
    VorpalRyuBaby_Yoda
  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 386
    Memes get the admins on your backs, so they don't count. And the puns are worse than Dad jokes.
  • UmandraugUmandraug Doomstadt, LatveriaMember Posts: 74
    Kaitch said:
    Memes get the admins on your backs, so they don't count. And the puns are worse than Dad jokes.
    I thought that Dad jokes were puns?
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    edited September 2018
    All puns are Dad jokes, but not all Dad jokes are puns.
    (Most of the rest are knock-knock jokes.)
    VorpalRyu
  • Switchfoot55Switchfoot55 The Northwest, USAMember Posts: 2,311
    ^Don't leave out all those,  "Did you hear the one about the..." jokes. A mainstay of my Dad Joke repertoire.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,224
    There once was a man from Nantuck...
    Switchfoot55
  • Casper_vd_KorfCasper_vd_Korf Twente, The NetherlandsMember Posts: 196
    ^ That’s a limerick, not a joke.
  • Baby_YodaBaby_Yoda The world's backsideMember Posts: 1,295
    The limerick is the post; the joke is the poster.
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 3,026

    I've missed so much while on holiday! Well, this is great - another set I don't need to buy. Not because it's crap (it isn't), not because it's too expensive (it is, for me), not because it's not UCS (Which is only as meaningful as you want it to be), not because the box art is a 'hot mess' (whatever that might mean - I think I get the idea though), not because it doesn't match my preconceptions of what I wanted it to be (I had none), but for loads of other, rather specific reasons which just amount to "I don't want it".

    I do think that without the twin pod thing or Slave 1 a casual fan would find it hard to recognise though...

  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 386
    ^A casual fan wouldn't be buying a £200+ lego set anyway. And arguably the Death Star would be unidentifiable without the minifigs.
    560Heliport
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,013
    Any idea what the next UCS set will be as the Cloud city set isn't UCS and is a bit of a stinker?

    I'm sure it'll be for May 4th 2019. I'd be pleased with an ISD, Vader's advanced Tie or Tantative IV. 
    starwars4ever
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 1,953
    ^ As long as it's not another X-Wing I'm fine with those, although considering system scale ISDs are already £130-£140, the retail price for a dramatically scaled UCS would be way, way higher. 

    I'd personally like a UCS A-Wing - no previous versions in UCS format (unlike the ISD, TIE Advanced and Tantive) but still a prominent vehicle throughout the 'imperial' segment of the saga. A UCS Podracer would be cool but I'd prefer Sebulba's.
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