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  • kezkez United KingdomMember Posts: 824
    edited May 2018
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,337
    I am guessing they are all from the still to be seen Suitcase set since they seem to be based on the first movie.
  • readersamreadersam USAMember Posts: 62
    Do we have an estimate on when these will be available?
  • LobotLobot UKMember Posts: 946

    readersam said:
    Do we have an estimate on when these will be available?
    @readersam - 1st August, if I recall correctly.
  • readersamreadersam USAMember Posts: 62
    Thanks, Lobot.
    Lobot
  • Mr_CrossMr_Cross East Anglia (UK)Member Posts: 1,025
    #75952 Newt's suitcase on instagram. Sorry for doubling up from the leaks discussion, just covering the bases.
    LobotkezMegtheCatthe_creative_boxwardmmithridate
  • kezkez United KingdomMember Posts: 824

    SeanTheCollectorTkattLittleLoriFowlerBricksrwsalesmsandersMr_CrossJern92madforLEGO
  • Gooker1Gooker1 Member Posts: 594
    I watched the first 30 second and was like what?  Why'd you post this if it wasn't in English...then I watched some more of it. hahahahaha

    Thanks for sharing!!
  • kezkez United KingdomMember Posts: 824
    Gooker1 said:
    I watched the first 30 second and was like what?  Why'd you post this if it wasn't in English...then I watched some more of it. hahahahaha

    Thanks for sharing!!
    Haha, I thought the same when I stumbled upon it too! Nothing too exclusive revealed within the interview, but its still informative nevertheless - also some cool prototypes are revealed. :-D
  • monkyby87monkyby87 Member Posts: 315
    I'm impressed with the number of mini-figures.  I feel like many larger sets nowadays still skimp on the number of characters, but that seems to be a decent number.
  • kezkez United KingdomMember Posts: 824
    Supposedly someone purchased the Quidditch set in WHSmiths today (£39) :-D
    https://www.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/8pjran/haul_for_the_day_is_75956_meant_to_be_on_shelves/
    Mr_CrossJern92
  • Jern92Jern92 MalaysiaMember Posts: 802
    So from what I can conclude from the interview, it seems like the connection points are meant for future sets in the second wave, rather than the D2C. I personally feel rather disappointed by that, because I was hoping for a massive UCS-style Hogwarts, but I guess if they release more sets in future it will slowly become that way.

    This does make me wonder; will the D2C be something other than Hogwarts then? It would be odd for them to have 2 separate Hogwarts, one D2C and one built by combining several waves of sets.
    MegtheCat
  • LukeSkywalkerLukeSkywalker IrelandMember Posts: 231
    I would rather nicely detailed sections released separately than a massive D2C that takes shortcuts in detail. Plus it helps the wallet to pay in smaller increments than one big payout (I’m looking at you new Millennium Falcon...). :)
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,337
    I would rather nicely detailed sections released separately than a massive D2C that takes shortcuts in detail. Plus it helps the wallet to pay in smaller increments than one big payout (I’m looking at you new Millennium Falcon...). :)
    Couldn't agree more....tired of $300-$400 or more direct to consumer sets. I would rather purchase Hogwarts in segments.
    LukeSkywalkermadforLEGOsnowhitie
  • Jern92Jern92 MalaysiaMember Posts: 802
    I would rather nicely detailed sections released separately than a massive D2C that takes shortcuts in detail. Plus it helps the wallet to pay in smaller increments than one big payout (I’m looking at you new Millennium Falcon...). :)
    I guess that makes sense. I wouldn't mind gradually amassing parts of a castle that come together to form a really massive one.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 5,942
    It would almost certainly cost more overall in segments though. Lego would have to bake into the price the additional packaging, storage, store shelf space, production costs. Also many average Lego customers would see a half section of Castle and have no idea other parts would come later or want to wait. Design might also suffer from having to be separate chunks that hook together.
    tamamahmgmonkey76gmalys1
  • J0rgenJ0rgen NorwayMember Posts: 223
    They'll show you how to combine with the other current sets on the back of the box, like with the Great Hall and Whomping Willow or the modulars. I think this is much more consumer friendly, especially for the kids!
    snowhitie
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 12,173
    Jern92 said:
    I personally feel rather disappointed by that, because I was hoping for a massive UCS-style Hogwarts, but I guess if they release more sets in future it will slowly become that way.
    I'd be interested to see if they did a smaller-scale, higher detail architecture-style Hogwarts that skews to the rather sizeable AFOL/HP audience.

    (Said the guy secretly wishing for a line of small-scale LotR buildings.)
    Jern92samiam391
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,432

    Jern92 said:
    So from what I can conclude from the interview, it seems like the connection points are meant for future sets in the second wave, rather than the D2C. I personally feel rather disappointed by that, because I was hoping for a massive UCS-style Hogwarts, but I guess if they release more sets in future it will slowly become that way.

    This does make me wonder; will the D2C be something other than Hogwarts then? It would be odd for them to have 2 separate Hogwarts, one D2C and one built by combining several waves of sets.
    I still see a D2C Castle set being done (especially since the rumors, many of which since confirmed true, also mention a large D2C set if I recall correctly), it may either just be missing the grand hall and the gate from the smaller sets (that you can attached later), OR it will have alt instructions that allow you to build a mega castle with those parts as well (something akin to Port Royal instructions for PoTC).
    I would rather see a large castle, as long as it has a LOT of figures and it done to a larger scale than something like the grand hall.
    The modular type build has been around since the 80's Castle stuff though and would also be nice to see them slowly build up a castle with the smaller sets.

    Though I will say as much as I like the large D2C sets, I'm getting this 'elitist' type vibe from LEGO lately with the likes of the Classic Batcave, Roller coaster, Assembly Hall, Chiron, GB HQ, and of course the UCS falcon (with the 'exclusive' limited black VIP card of special deals just for those members).
    I mean while they are great sets, but LEGO is getting pricey and my salary is not going up.
    MegtheCatMattDawson
  • 77ncaachamps77ncaachamps Aspiring Time Traveler Stuck in the West (US)Member Posts: 2,439
    Lobot said:

    First image of the box (from The Brothers Brick):

    I'm really impressed by the new sets - this could be my first ever train!!

    It looks great but only one passenger car is a bit disappointing.  Hopefully nothing too unique in the build so additional cars can be BL'd reasonably
    In the tradition of Mos Eisley Cantina, Disney castle, et al..., Lego wants you to complete the build by buying two sets or more!
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,020
    Lobot said:

    First image of the box (from The Brothers Brick):

    I'm really impressed by the new sets - this could be my first ever train!!

    It looks great but only one passenger car is a bit disappointing.  Hopefully nothing too unique in the build so additional cars can be BL'd reasonably
    In the tradition of Mos Eisley Cantina, Disney castle, et al..., Lego wants you to complete the build by buying two sets or more!
    Or, they want to make it as cheap as possible by only including one carriage. Most kids won't care that there is just one carriage. Add another and the price goes up by probably about 20%, which will mean less sales for essentially the same set.
    stlux
  • 77ncaachamps77ncaachamps Aspiring Time Traveler Stuck in the West (US)Member Posts: 2,439
    CCC said:
    Lobot said:

    First image of the box (from The Brothers Brick):

    I'm really impressed by the new sets - this could be my first ever train!!

    It looks great but only one passenger car is a bit disappointing.  Hopefully nothing too unique in the build so additional cars can be BL'd reasonably
    In the tradition of Mos Eisley Cantina, Disney castle, et al..., Lego wants you to complete the build by buying two sets or more!
    Or, they want to make it as cheap as possible by only including one carriage. Most kids won't care that there is just one carriage. Add another and the price goes up by probably about 20%, which will mean less sales for essentially the same set.
    Fair enough.

    But we all know that if we wait long enough, that 20% increase eventually becomes a 20% discount. ;)
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,020
    Full RRP for the one carriage version also becomes a 20% discount too. Or 30% here.
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,751
    edited June 2018
    I do think 2 carriages would have been a lot better and does add to the play value. It also might make buying multiples more appealing as you could make a larger station and have 4 carriages. Also adding more of the same bricks to a set cost less than adding different bricks to a set. So although the price would have gone up the price per piece and therefore value of the set might have got better. Saying that I can understand why Lego did only have 1 carriage in this set as it also has a station and is already a large set, the Emerald Night on the other hand I still dont understand the thinking.
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,751
    edited June 2018
    I think one of the main characteristics of a passenger train is that they have identical carriages. You dont really get the same effect if you only have one carriage, that is why I like to see at least two.

    Kids couple and uncoupling trains, they fill them with passengers and they crash them. All of these things are better with a longer train. With other train toys where there is an option you see that kids like to make long trains. Its the same as saying kids will play with a small spaceship in the same way as a large spaceship. Another question is how long will they play with them for and at what point (size) will they pick it over other toys.

    Like I said it doesn't cost Lego much to add the same bricks to a set so could add value. Just because Lego does the same thing over and over doesn't mean its the best thing. We would only know for sure if there were two products on the shelf at the same time (a one carriage and two carriage version).

    But if you still want to tell me I am wrong I would go with making the same model twice is boring which I think is the biggest negative to a two carriage train at this age range. This is where Lego has a problem other train toys dont have.

    Still no excuse for you Emerald Night, there are a lot of creator expert sets with repetition.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,020
    SMC said:

    But if you still want to tell me I am wrong I would go with making the same model twice is boring which I think is the biggest negative to a two carriage train at this age range. This is where Lego has a problem other train toys dont have.

    This is also why having a station is better than an extra carriage. Similarly having a tender rather than an extra carriage. Different builds (for the same amount of bricks) means more play (here play=construction) value.

    SMC said:

    Still no excuse for you Emerald Night, there are a lot of creator expert sets with repetition.
    EN probably would have been better with an extra carriage, but the result is similar, the price would have gone up and sales would have dropped for those that wanted the engine. Although it is an interesting one, in that it wouldn't have surprised me if there were less complaints if it had come with no carriages. (Non-LEGO) Train collectors often display trains as the engine plus tender, models like this are common ...



    So having no carriages is not out of the ordinary for display. Of course, with model trains like that you can buy the carriages separately so if you want to run it, you buy what you want. If they did a range of sets of engines (plus tenders) and then a standard single carriage that could be used with any of them, then they'd probably sell well to adults, but I'm not so sure about kids. And there is the problem that adults would buy too many carriages then complain that the engine motor is not strong enough to pull them.

    But removing the carriage for Hogwarts Express would remove significant play value (nowhere for Harry and friends to sit).

    LittleLoribgl_84nhyone
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,751
    edited June 2018
    I agree that the Emerald Night probably would have had less complaints if it had come with no carriages. Because a train without carriages looks ok but a train with only one carriage looks odd (Ill come back to this). But I think sale would have only increased if it had two carriages, sure a few people would not have bought it because of the added cost but some might have bought it that didn't because it looked more complete. But I think the biggest factor would have been the number of people that bought multiple sets to make a longer train. This wasnt much of an option with only one carriage and you couldn't make more yourself because of the windows which were only in this set.

    To quote myself I think this is important: "I think one of the main characteristics of a passenger train is that they have identical carriages. You dont really get the same effect if you only have one carriage"

    I am going to call this "the thomas the tank engine affect" I think if you show someone a train with only one carriage the brain goes "somethings not right there" you might not know what but it just looks a bit wrong (like if the lip sync is out on a film). If you show them a train with two carriages (like thomas) even though it is much sorter than a normal train it doesn't jar anywhere like as much.

    Outside of Lego you wont find many trains only 2 parts long however a 3 part toy train is very common even within Lego.



  • dmcc0dmcc0 Nae far fae AberdeenMember Posts: 765
    edited June 2018
    SMC said:

    ...I am going to call this "the thomas the tank engine affect" I think if you show someone a train with only one carriage the brain goes "somethings not right there" you might not know what but it just looks a bit wrong (like if the lip sync is out on a film). If you show them a train with two carriages (like thomas) even though it is much sorter than a normal train it doesn't jar anywhere like as much...

    While Thomas does have 2 carriages (Annie & Clarabel), Toby regularly only has Henrietta...
    SMC
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,751
    edited June 2018
    dmcc0 said:

    While Thomas does have 2 carriages (Annie & Clarabel), Toby regularly only has Henrietta...
    True, you also do get toys like this:

    What happened to clarabel? Maybe this:


    sonsofsceva
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 1,969
    I was always more amazed that Thomas was a talking train and it didn't surprise anyone. :P
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,483
    There was a series called "My Own Train" in 2001 that had separate sets for locomotives and rolling stock. Maybe LEGO will start selling sets with individual carriages again so people who want longer trains can make them without having to buy extra locomotives and stations.
    560Heliport
  • LyichirLyichir United StatesMember Posts: 746
    There was a series called "My Own Train" in 2001 that had separate sets for locomotives and rolling stock. Maybe LEGO will start selling sets with individual carriages again so people who want longer trains can make them without having to buy extra locomotives and stations.
    Unfortunately, those sets sold pretty terribly. Sets tend to sell better when they offer a complete play experience on their own, which isn't really the case with individual train cars with no engine.

    For adult fans who want to expand their trains without buying an entire additional set, there's always sites like Bricklink.
    BumblepantsstluxSumoLego
  • daewoodaewoo TexasMember Posts: 346

    I don't mind that the HEs have only come with one carriage.  As CCC said, Lego is going for the play value.  Us AFOLs will be the only ones to make complaints about it, but at the end of the day, we're not the target audience for these sets.  Now maybe if Lego did a UCS version (or Creator Expert) of the HE, then maybe we would see a longer train.

    I would love it if Lego returned to the "My Own Train" idea and sold individual carriages and other rolling stock.  I don't think it will happen, but I can dream!

    Fizyx
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 5,942
    I wish they would just put a trucks, couplers, and bogeys pack of some kind together as it can be frustrating figuring out all the bits you need to make a train car. Maybe the 'Xtra' line could expand to this but I doubt it will happen. What I have done is just bought extra passenger and freight trains when a great deal occurs for train MOC fodder. Ends up being a lot cheaper and easier that way.

    (also please don't roast me if I used the wrong names for the train parts. Or do, whatever, I don't mind)
    omniumbandit778gmonkey76daewoo
  • tomahawkertomahawker Member Posts: 172
    edited June 2018


    If you watch this interview with Jamie Berard (around the 28 minute mark), its clear that train sets, especially ones that appeal to AFOLs, do not sell very well outside of train fans.  The only way to increase sales is to create a set that has cross market appeal (like the Winter Village Train).  Thus, I'm very skeptical that we will ever see sets like the My Own Train line again.
    CCCLittleLoristluxLego_Star
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,020
    bandit778 said:
    I was always more amazed that Thomas was a talking train and it didn't surprise anyone. :P
    When you grow up watching Ivor the Engine, talking is not so unusual. He sings in the choir, looks after animals, knows where money is hidden, ...

    bandit778
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,751
    ^ Like I said train mostly come in at least 3 parts:


    Oh wait...
    bandit778
  • Gooker1Gooker1 Member Posts: 594
    Thanks for posting that vid!  I love these little in depth interviews!
    Lego_Star
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 1,969
    CCC said:
    When you grow up watching Ivor the Engine, talking is not so unusual. He sings in the choir, looks after animals, knows where money is hidden, ... 

    Completely forgot about Ivor the engine.
    Ah, the good old days of hand drawn cartoons, none of this CGI malarkey. Feel old again.
    Lobot
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,020
    Rather boring figure, given how many times it will appear in sets ...



    https://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-harry-potter-activity-book-minifigure-revealed/

    Interesting that he changes hairstyle and leg length on the cover.
  • benbacardibenbacardi EnglandMember Posts: 418
    CCC said:
    Rather boring figure, given how many times it will appear in sets ...
    thebrickfan.com seems to think it's only going to appear in one:
    This version of him has the short legs and it looks like it will only be available with the Hogwarts Great Hall (#75954) set so this activity book will be the cheapest way to get the school uniform version of the character.
  • J0rgenJ0rgen NorwayMember Posts: 223
    The version on the cover looks like it's based on the video game. He has the Chamber of Secrets torso and the Goblet of Fire head. Strange to still see those designs around today!
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,020
    I imagine the book is prepared completely separately from the sets, and will have little in it based on the new sets. They tend to reuse lots of artwork for things like this.

    Unless, they update the cover and have access to a whole load of new set material. But as it is done outside of LEGO, that is probably unlikely.

    thebrickfan.com seems to think it's only going to appear in one:
    Yes, although HP school torsos are not exactly rare.

    It is a shame they did not do an exclsuive torso like the past few HP books. Although I guess there will be so many in the CMF series pus the sets anyway.

  • LobotLobot UKMember Posts: 946

    Courtesy of Eurobricks - #71043

    60 x 51.4 x 20 cm & 7.36kg!!

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07BLDTWVW?tag=amazon0f54-21

    kez
  • nexandernexander Glasgow Member Posts: 888
    ^
    That would tie in with a £300 price tag. Pity it's the wife that gets to build it :(
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 5,942
    ^take it apart and build it again?
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 12,173
    SMC said:
    ...with only one carriage looks odd...
    ... and two carriages would look even...
    gmonkey76BumblepantsMuftak1pharmjodBrickByBrickJern92560HeliportFowlerBricksricecake
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