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  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,949
    TheBigLegoski said:
    Plus I have more faith in Ron Howard as a director than I do in J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson, who are both IMO primarily responsible for screwing up the sequel trilogy.
    I get the impression that the three films weren't written in advance.  Or that without a single team working all the way through, minor changes here and there expose glaring flaws in the overall plot.

    (Good example being the rushed Finn-Rose-Phasma storyline.  There is no backstory between Phasma and Finn that would generate such hatred between those characters.  Maybe a nice sub-story would have been that Phasma can't tolerate insubordination, and hunted down Finn's parents or family and 'punished' them.  Or something that would create that level of animosity.  And save that payoff for the third film.  Or maybe Phasma is alive and does something to Rose or Finn in Episode IX that would be a satisfying payoff for that plot.)

    I also think the whole 'Rey is a nobody' plotline was radically changed from Episode VII.  It does serve the plot in Episode VIII very well, but makes a mess of the overall character arc.  I'd be fine with Rey being that kid from the Casino Planet looking toward the stars.  But you have to set that up when you introduce the character.
    gmonkey76BumblepantsMegtheCat
  • FizyxFizyx ColoradoMember Posts: 782
    SumoLego said:
    I also think the whole 'Rey is a nobody' plotline was radically changed from Episode VII.  It does serve the plot in Episode VIII very well, but makes a mess of the overall character arc.  I'd be fine with Rey being that kid from the Casino Planet looking toward the stars.  But you have to set that up when you introduce the character.
    The best thing about the 'Rey is nobody' is that it's very easily walked back.  The information is revealed by Ren doing his Dark Side best, so there is no guarantee that he is telling the truth, and Rey's acceptance of what he says could be entirely attributable to the pressure he is putting on her in the moment.  I could see a smart director using that to craft some very good plot points without it being too much M. Night.

    Of course, if that happens or not, I'm not sure anyone knows at this point, including writers, producers, and directors.  I guess we'll see...
    starwars4ever
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 5,838
    The best thing about 'Rey is nobody' is that she isn't a Kenobi or a Gin or long lost inbred Skywalker or the great-niece of the Palpatine's 2nd cousin twice removed.
    Hoggy
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 2,542
    ^ You haven't seen the script for IX yet...
    SumoLego
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,346
    edited April 2018
    SumoLego said:
    ...This Alden Ehrenreich may yet exceed my expectations...
    He looks so much like Karl Urban.  And nothing like Harrison Ford.  (It's all in the nose.)  But it really doesn't matter if they look alike - it matters that he embodies the character and is believable.
    They (Karl Urban & Alden Ehrenreich) do indeed look alike, but they do not convey the same air, attitude, or character if you will, at least that is my impression. Whether or not I can accept him as a successful Han Solo hinges on his performance, not on whether he is an exact lookalike. The thing is, Harrison Ford's Han Solo is this ruffian, casual, rogue gunslinging space cowboy type of guy with swagger, a bit similar to the actors from all those spaghetti westerns who played their parts so well. It took no effort to accept Harrison Ford being this type of character, but I do have to make a strenuous effort (based on my first impression) to do so when i see this tiny frail babyface Alden Ehrenreich. He does not convey an air of toughness, and streetwise smartness (having grown up in the outback, or mountains, or some edgy urban sprawl or inner-city), instead he looks like  one of those 13 in a dozen sheltered upper middle class pampered Jewish Tinseltown kids (which is also what he happens to be, I can confirm having just googled him, so my 1st impression is correct).
         
    Alec Guinness and Ewan Mcgregor are no lookalikes either, yet Ewan was a fantastic Obi-Wan Kenobi. On that note I would love to see a stand alone Obi-Wan Kenobi film. Hell if the story is good enough with enough substance for two films I would not mind that either.

    SumoLegogmonkey76Onebricktoomany
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,346
    SumoLego said:
    I get the impression that the three films weren't written in advance.

    Correct! The directors were also the writers of this horrific hodgepodge.

    The Farce Affronts has three accredited writers:J.J. Abrams, Lawrence Kasdan, and Michael Arndt.

    The Lost Jelly was all concocted by that €#€#!*%@!! Rian Johnson.

    Resulting in a big pile a dung. Okay I do like what the art department and special effects guys have done, but the story stinks so bad, and the characters are so lame! Don't get me started. I shall cease to discuss it any further. Let everyone who loves the ST enjoy it, and let me wish that someday they will discard this entire sequel trilogy, and just start over. There! The End.
    monkeyhangergmonkey76spepper
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,273
    edited April 2018
    I understand why a number of people might be nervous about someone other than Harrison Ford playing Han Solo but find that very few of those who are dismissing Alden Ehrenreich's performance have actually seen any of his films. He was truly excellent in Hail Caesar! so certainly has the potential to perform well in Solo.

    Of course, good past performances do not guarantee an equally good performance on this occasion. Even so, I hope viewers give Alden Ehrenreich a chance.
    SumoLego said:
    I get the impression that the three films weren't written in advance.  Or that without a single team working all the way through, minor changes here and there expose glaring flaws in the overall plot.

    I also think the whole 'Rey is a nobody' plotline was radically changed from Episode VII.  It does serve the plot in Episode VIII very well, but makes a mess of the overall character arc.  I'd be fine with Rey being that kid from the Casino Planet looking toward the stars.  But you have to set that up when you introduce the character.
    The scripts were not written in advance of the entire trilogy and I agree that there has been some evidence of that in the movies. However, the overarching plot was certainly established prior to 2015 and I do not believe that Rey's parentage was ever changed.
    blakusdk
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,346
    @CapnRex101 ;    
    Of course, it is only fair to reserve judgement until after having seen Solo, and conclude whether or not it is a good film, and Ehrenreich is a worthy and believable Han etc.
    I don't recall his performance in Blue Jasmine (where he only had a minor role), and I still have not seen Hail Caesar. Nonetheless 'we shall see', and keep an open mind.
  • SearchlightRGSearchlightRG AmericaMember Posts: 195
    My older sister is fairly disappointed by Adam Driver and Alden Ehrenreich casting, mainly because she feels they’re not attractive enough to play Harrison Ford’s kid or a young Harrison Ford.

    In a way the way they seem to have handled Rey’s parentage/not addressed Snoke’s origins is somewhat ingenious. After all the fan hype they knew they would tick off a majority of the fan base if they got into any real depth, because a bunch of theories would be utterly crushed.

     I also can’t help but wonder if Rey is meant to be the true Chosen One, actually born through the will of the Force instead of being hinted as being the product of some serious Sith voodoo.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,949
    I really don't get why DJ was necessary for the plot.  The 'actual' codebreaker could have done the same thing, and would have been more interesting, frankly.  And any extra screen time for Benicio Del Toro is always a plus.  He was perfect at the turncoat reveal. 

    Anyway, DJ was the incoherent cherry on the Canto Bright incoherent sundae.

    (Which I think felt 'necessary' to justify the kid with the broom.)

    I am also setting myself up to be disappointed when there are suddenly hundreds or thousands of Resistance fighters at the beginning of Episode XI.  I don't think they'll be ambitious enough to have the First Order collapse under its own weight because Kylo Ren and the Rabid Cur don't have any shared vision to dominate the galaxy.

    Or maybe he'll done in by hares wearing jackets and distracted by Moira MacTaggart.
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 765
    ^ I'd place the outside bet that we'll see DJ again - perhaps reclaiming his trustworthiness after his betrayal in TLJ. After all, he doesn't work for the First Order - he was just looking out for himself when he knew they'd get captured (or because he already knew Resistance Prisoners would be a good bounty). He ought to watch out for Thanos though - he wants his Aether back!
    SumoLegoBrickByBrick
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,443
    edited April 2018
    CapnRex101 said:o
    I understand why a number of people might be nervous about someone other than Harrison Ford playing Han Solo but find that very few of those who are dismissing Alden Ehrenreich's performance have actually seen any of his films. He was truly excellent in Hail Caesar! so certainly has the potential to perform well in Solo.
    I saw Fail Caeser, and thought it was a terrible movie. I still think Alden Ehrenreich can't act. If Solo is a good movie it will be in spite of Alden Ehrenreich, and not because of him.
    Yo_dA
  • SearchlightRGSearchlightRG AmericaMember Posts: 195
    ^^Can we all admit that a Marvel-Star Wars crossover is probably only a matter of time?
    MaffyDMAGNINOMINISUMBRAOnebricktoomany
  • MAGNINOMINISUMBRAMAGNINOMINISUMBRA Member Posts: 989
    ^ Along with a LEGO theme containing sets with incredible minifigs, mediocre builds and clocking in at 40c pp to account for the Disney, Star Wars AND Marvel tax...
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,949
    ^^Can we all admit that a Marvel-Star Wars crossover is probably only a matter of time?
    I refuse to admit this.  

    --fumbles around for Alien vs. Predator DVD--
    560HeliportTheBigLegoskiFizyxstarwars4evergmonkey76prevereOnebricktoomany
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,346
    edited April 2018
    Ooh come on, Xenomorphs and Predators go so well together with Pop-Corn. Such lovely, finger licking good snacks.
    Onebricktoomany
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,346
    Xenomorphs are the ultimate Sith Lord pets
    Onebricktoomany
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,346
    Really looking forward to getting this set:
    https://brickset.com/sets/75210-1/Moloch-s-Landspeeder
    (though not for €55 Lego is asking for it in the Netherlands)
    Those Corellian hounds look too cute. They remind me a bit of those Predator hounds from the 'Predators' movie from 2010 with Adrien Brody and Laurence Fishburne.
    I wonder how accurate the vehicle is to the film? It seems to offer room only to the minifigure (Moloch) who is piloting it. I really like that hat the human minifig is wearing (same one but different colour as Pao from #75156 is wearing).
  • MAGNINOMINISUMBRAMAGNINOMINISUMBRA Member Posts: 989
    ^Looking at the additional set images,  it looks like the second minifig may fit in the 'cut out' in the front right hand corner of the speeder?
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,248
    Surprised, found both speeders & the Imperial trooper battlepack on shelf at one of the Kmart stores local to me, was tempted, but I'd already decided to wait for a sale.
    blakusdkxiahna
  • BrickByBrickBrickByBrick Massachusetts, USAMember Posts: 620
    ^^ I don't know,  he might fit, but I think that's meant to be a Cage for the Corellian hounds
  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 863
    ^^Can we all admit that a Marvel-Star Wars crossover is probably only a matter of time?
    Here you go:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JYNDssdsVnM

    Youre welcome. 
    Infinityman
  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,335
    DJ polybag has been seen in tesco. Similar deal to the ninjago dragon poly they ran pre-xmas. £4 to buy or free with star wars lego purchase
    omniumBrickByBrickThe_Rancor
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 765
    ^ Thanks - but so much for Black VIP Exclusivity then!
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 2,860
    i know this is a bit random...... but i watched Rogue One today....
    and i just worked out that the "Death Star" is a super sized mega overpowered Lightsaber...

    think about it... we know that Kyber Crystals are the key to making a lightsaber work.
    we also know that the death star used a sh*t load of Kyber Crystals to work....
    also the beem of the death star is greem.... the most common and easy to find Kyber Crystals give a green blade.....

    well that's my take on it...
    anyhow after watching Rogue One i did not see any lego set's that i dont own at this point that i would like to.
    will be watching The Last Jedi soon... we will see what that dose to my wish to own set list for that movie.

    omnium
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 765
    edited April 2018
    ^ It kind of poses the question as to exactly what created the 'multi-flare' mega weapon that erupted from Starkill... I mean Death Star III in The Force Awakens. It definitely didn't seem like a Lightsaber like the Death Stars I and II. It probably explains in canon somewhere that I haven't read yet.

    I bet watching Rogue One probably made an Actual Rogue One set quite desirable though! Maybe one day.
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 2,860

    I bet watching Rogue One probably made an Actual Rogue One set quite desirable though! Maybe one day.
    the inp cargo ship? used in the later part of the movie?
    yep i love to have me one of them....
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 5,838
    ^ It kind of poses the question as to exactly what created the 'multi-flare' mega weapon that erupted from Starkill... I mean Death Star III in The Force Awakens. It definitely didn't seem like a Lightsaber like the Death Stars I and II. It probably explains in canon somewhere that I haven't read yet.

    The movie said they were draining stars so it stands to reason they were shooting a giant blast of star plasma or whatever. 
  • xwingpilotxwingpilot UKMember Posts: 797
    Death Star 1 and 2 were laser weapons. Star Killer Base used dark energy / hyperspace tunnelling.

    (Apparently)
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,949
    Funny, that was the original subtitle of the second Solo movie...

    Solo & Calrissian: Hyperspace Tunnelling
    dmcc0The_Rancor
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 765
    Death Star 1 and 2 were laser weapons. Star Killer Base used dark energy / hyperspace tunnelling.

    (Apparently)
    Despite the fact that Star Wars doesn't have to stick to conventional rules of physics, I still find it way more believable and understandable that they could create a mega laser weapon with various focusing beams than some sun-drainer with 'hyperspace tunnelling'. Maybe I just wish they said a little more about how it worked in the film.
    FizyxTheBigLegoski
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,949
    Considering the Atari-quality graphics of the Episode IV trench run diagram, maybe it's better they don't explain how super laser maguffins work.

    Or hyperspace...

    Or parsec as a time measurement instead of distance...
    SearchlightRGgmonkey76TheBigLegoskiVorpalRyustlux
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 2,542
    I think we had better be careful around Star Wars and physics. They're not friends...
    Johnyk668VorpalRyuSearchlightRGMynatt
  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 375
    You know what would be nice? A resurrection of the Planets series. If I remember correctly, there were three sets in each wave, and it meandered aimlessly through the OT and PT. So, why not do a wave of three for each of the new movies? TFA could have Jakku (FO SD or TIE, or Rey's speeder), Takodana (Kylo's shuttle) and Starkiller (Poe's X-Wing, maybe?), which would leave D'Qar free for TLJ. R1 would have Jedha (hovertank), Eadu (U-Wing) and Scarif (TIE Striker, maybe). Then TLJ would have D'Qar (Resistance bomber), Crait (ski speeder), and either Canto Bight with a transport pod, or Ach-To with the series' first Millennium Falcon.

    What do you reckon?
    Brixfan02
  • Brixfan02Brixfan02 USAMember Posts: 162
    Kaitch said:
    You know what would be nice? A resurrection of the Planets series. If I remember correctly, there were three sets in each wave, and it meandered aimlessly through the OT and PT. So, why not do a wave of three for each of the new movies? TFA could have Jakku (FO SD or TIE, or Rey's speeder), Takodana (Kylo's shuttle) and Starkiller (Poe's X-Wing, maybe?), which would leave D'Qar free for TLJ. R1 would have Jedha (hovertank), Eadu (U-Wing) and Scarif (TIE Striker, maybe). Then TLJ would have D'Qar (Resistance bomber), Crait (ski speeder), and either Canto Bight with a transport pod, or Ach-To with the series' first Millennium Falcon.

    What do you reckon?
    I would love this, especially because I didn't get any of the first planet series
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 765
    ^ I'd be interested to know how sales of Planets compare to Mincrofighters, but the fact that Microfighters are surviving for a little longer already suggests the chibi format works better for the small models. I mean, there's way more play for kids in Microfighters than the very much AFOL-focused planets with display stands.
  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 375
    They do sell very well to the AFOL market. Maybe they should introduce giant planets and bump up the RRP a couple hundred...
    eddiew
  • MrJacksonMrJackson Member Posts: 323
    SumoLego said:
    ...
    Or parsec as a time measurement instead of distance...
    This was actually retconned some time ago.  Kessel is close to a black hole cluster (The Maw), and the Kessel Run skirted around it. The faster your ship, the closer you could get to the Maw without being pulled in, and shave off distance - measured in parsecs - from the Run. 

    Of course, who knows what Solo will do to that. 
    VorpalRyuBrickByBrickFizyxdmcc0
  • Toc13Toc13 Member Posts: 1,048
    ^ or, given the look on Kenobi's face & the script comments, Han was talking out of his arse when bragging
    SumoLegoKerre
  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 375
    ^Considering how Rey reacted, it probably was an actual thing, rather than a nonsense boat. Obi-Wan hated flying, and he probably had to deal with a lot of Anakin boasting about flying, so he wouldn't need much else to distain Han's boast.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,949
    MrJackson said:
    ...Kessel is close to a black hole cluster (The Maw), and the Kessel Run skirted around it. The faster your ship, the closer you could get to the Maw without being pulled in, and shave off distance - measured in parsecs - from the Run...
    This only makes sense to me if explained by Matthew McConaughey.  So if one gets pulled into the Maw, do you end up in a plaid box in your childhood home, and then time-travel to the future?
    VorpalRyugmonkey76
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,949
    Kaitch said:
    ...and he probably had to deal with a lot of Anakin boasting about flying, so he wouldn't need much else to distain Han's boast.
    ..from a certain point of view.
    VorpalRyugmonkey76MAGNINOMINISUMBRA
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,248
    Watched Rogue One last night, while there were a few minor niggles with it, it gives me hope for Solo, so I'll probably end up getting more of the tie-in sets now.
    BumblepantsxiahnaFowlerBricks
  • KaitchKaitch N. IrelandMember Posts: 375
    Question. What does everyone think of the polys in the Lego Star Wars Magazine?
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,461
    SumoLego said:
    Considering the Atari-quality graphics of the Episode IV trench run diagram, maybe it's better they don't explain how super laser maguffins work.

    Or hyperspace...

    Or parsec as a time measurement instead of distance...
    I always figured that Han was referring to distance when bragging about the Kessel run. Just like shaving distance off of a trip here on earth by using backroads instead of a highway bypass. 
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 765
    Kaitch said:
    Question. What does everyone think of the polys in the Lego Star Wars Magazine?
    Some of the unnamed characters are really good, the named characters are alright if you didn't have them yet and some of the vehicle builds are well designed and/or have interesting pieces in them. So generally, despite some off-models, they are welcome.
  • MrKettleMrKettle OxfordshireMember Posts: 136
    Kaitch said:
    Question. What does everyone think of the polys in the Lego Star Wars Magazine?
    I really like the Magazine polys. I only go for OT sets but I feel they capture the essence of the ships very well.
  • Toc13Toc13 Member Posts: 1,048
    The builds are okay if over-priced.
    The minifigs are often worth getting
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,949
    SumoLego said:
    Or parsec as a time measurement instead of distance...
    I always figured that Han was referring to distance when bragging about the Kessel run....
    I assumed the same as well.  Along the lines of a clever or experienced pilot could plot a more aggressive course to get to a destination quicker.

    But I think Lucas just made a mistake in the script.
    datsunrobbiedmcc0MaffyD
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