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Predictions for upcoming sets

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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,707
    alaskaguy said:
    Is anyone else simply bored of all these movie tie-ins? Can we not have more sets that are fun to build?
    I would describe my feelings more as "disgust and animosity".

    I wish they would produce some GOOD "parts and pieces" kits - with no instructions or examples of any kind. Just pure, self-indulgent creativity material.

    I'd love to see a 3000 piece Technic pieces & parts kit, a 2000 piece Vehicles pieces & parts kit, a 2000 piece "space vehicles" pieces and parts kit, etc. etc. I'd buy those up in an instant.
    You could buy the classic / creator boxes and dump the instructions.

    I doubt many people would buy a $300 set that has no instructions. But if you do want these, there are the education style packs.

    As to a 3000 piece technic set, what shoudl it contain? If it is larger parts and not bulked out with technic pins, then that is likely to cost probably at least $600-800.

    For example this technic service style pack cost $12 for 30 beams,
    https://brickset.com/sets/5003164-1/Technic-Angle-Beams

    I wonder how many people would buy into a set that expensive that has no instructions to make anything from it. Probably very few. I think technic suffers more than system with people not knowing how to start / MOC if there are no instructions.

    stluxgmonkey76catwrangler
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,059
    I’ll be the ever positive and think maybe with all this anniversary themed items coming about that more “legends” type sets may be released soon.

    Yea I know...
    catwrangler
  • alaskaguyalaskaguy Member Posts: 326
    edited February 2018
    CCC said:

    You could buy the classic / creator boxes and dump the instructions.
    I said GOOD parts & pieces set.
    CCC said:
    I doubt many people would buy a $300 set that has no instructions. But if you do want these, there are the education style packs.
    Those don't really meet the criteria I am looking for. 
    CCC said:
    As to a 3000 piece technic set, what shoudl it contain? If it is larger parts and not bulked out with technic pins, then that is likely to cost probably at least $600-800.
    I'd buy it. Would be a LOT more useful and playable than a UCE MF for $800.

    As for instructions....they could always sell an "ideas book" for $50 or whatever. Hell, they could then have a "Special Edition bundle" that includes both.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,707
    alaskaguy said:
    CCC said:
    As to a 3000 piece technic set, what shoudl it contain? If it is larger parts and not bulked out with technic pins, then that is likely to cost probably at least $600-800.
    I'd buy it. Would be a LOT more useful and playable than a UCE MF for $800.

    And which would sell more?

    I just don't see there being that big a market for a technic selection box, that isn't already served by bricklink or existing sets.
    alaskaguy said:

    As for instructions....they could always sell an "ideas book" for $50 or whatever. Hell, they could then have a "Special Edition bundle" that includes both.
    They'd get loads of complaints if they did this, along the lines of ... You used to get instructions with lego sets, now you have to buy them separately.


    stlux
  • alaskaguyalaskaguy Member Posts: 326
    edited February 2018
    CCC said:
    And which would sell more?

    I just don't see there being that big a market for a technic selection box, that isn't already served by bricklink or existing sets.
    None of which has anything to do with what I would like to see them produce.

    I UNDERSTAND that Lego is never going to do what I want them to do.  I GET IT. That doesn't change the fact that I'd like them to produce stuff I actually want to buy.

    Here is what I said:
    I wish they would produce some GOOD "parts and pieces" kits - with no instructions or examples of any kind. Just pure, self-indulgent creativity material.

    I didn't say that they will.


  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,779
    Between Bricks & Pieces, Bricklink and Brick Owl there is no reason to make parts packs. The fact that the classic buckets were scorned a few posts back shows this. (And I agree to some extent those typically aren't what I want either). They can't possibly make something that would appeal to everyone so just offer a buffet. Everyone wins.

    The one exception might be something like a 'Train Kit' with couplings, motors etc but even then, buying a City Train on discount is going to get you the same results at a better price.
    stlux
  • alaskaguyalaskaguy Member Posts: 326
    edited February 2018
    Not everyone has the time or energy to go to various sites and get parts piece by piece by piece. Or even go to various sites and get small collections of pieces here and there.

    I'd much rather take my $1000 to lego.com and say here, TAKE MY MONEY, give me something I want.
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 2,505

    @alaskaguy - I know how you feel: I've been creating things with my youngest over the weekend, and the pieces in the biggest classic box we have just didn't have the type of parts we needed without changing what we wanted to do by quite some margin. It would have required us to use parts from one of his city sets, or superhero set, and he likes keeping those 'made up' so he has something to go with what he is currently building.

    I suppose the answer is to figure out the kind of thing you want to build, buy 'normal' sets which are those kinds of things, and then dump them all into one big bag and don't use the instructions. I'd recommend getting those with high parts per cent ratios. We haven't done this yet as I collect sets instead of 'raw' Lego and my son likes the solidity of 'proper' sets over the sometimes fragile MOCs he makes - they don't swoosh as well.

  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 2,505
    @The_Rancor - I think it's safe to assume we'll get an AM&TW set - it's a sequel, the original film had a set that went OOS very quickly (IIRC) and Ant-Man ha been in Civil War and will be in IW so the character awareness is there. There might even be 2 sets - one with Ant-Man and one with Wasp, because marketing, although thy will have to be careful with the Wasp set, because boys.
    Th1nDieselThe_Rancor
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,707
    alaskaguy said:
    CCC said:
    And which would sell more?

    I just don't see there being that big a market for a technic selection box, that isn't already served by bricklink or existing sets.
    None of which has anything to do with what I would like to see them produce.

    I UNDERSTAND that Lego is never going to do what I want them to do.  I GET IT. That doesn't change the fact that I'd like them to produce stuff I actually want to buy.

    Here is what I said:
    I wish they would produce some GOOD "parts and pieces" kits - with no instructions or examples of any kind. Just pure, self-indulgent creativity material.

    I didn't say that they will.


    I know this isn't Eurobricks, but predictions doesn't mean wants.

    But of course, what goes into a good "parts and pieces" pack is highly subjective and personal, depending on what you build. Which is why many packs wouldn't sell well.
    LostInTranslationAstrobricks
  • colaycolay OxfordshireMember Posts: 328
    I'm hoping #75218 X-wing is a Rogue One Blue Squadron fighter! Has anyone seen any pictures, or is it just a set number so far?
    It is Red 5 and I have it on good authority it is standing by.
    Is it likely to be a normal size set, or UCS?
    Saw the prices of #10240 rise recently
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 2,505
    ^ Normal sized X Wing ($100 apparently).
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,779
    colay said:
    I'm hoping #75218 X-wing is a Rogue One Blue Squadron fighter! Has anyone seen any pictures, or is it just a set number so far?
    It is Red 5 and I have it on good authority it is standing by.
    Is it likely to be a normal size set, or UCS?
    Saw the prices of #10240 rise recently
    It is System size. Looks fairly large but hard to tell in those pre-release fuzzy renders.
  • alaskaguyalaskaguy Member Posts: 326
    CCC said:
    predictions doesn't mean wants.
    Very true. But I was responding to a previous poster, who said, "Is anyone else simply bored of all these movie tie-ins? Can we not have more sets that are fun to build?"
  • JRLJRL UKMember Posts: 86
    Personally, I have no interest in all the Marvel/ DC movie tie in nonsense. 
    SumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,856
    JRL said:
    Personally, I have no interest in all the Marvel/ DC movie tie in nonsense. 
    Unfortunately, a sizeable section of the LEGO-buying market has a lot of interest in tie-in sets.

    (Otherwise, why would LEGO Angry Birds exist?)

    I would posit that LEGO has probably missed out on some nice set sales by not having X-Men and Deadpool tie-ins.
    Fizyxgmonkey76MaffyD
  • Legopassion8Legopassion8 North CarolinaMember Posts: 1,180
    edited February 2018
    UCS Milano. 

    It is an Italian name, yes?
    SumoLegoFizyxSamJ
  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,874
    Being a movie tie in set and fun to build are not necessarily mutually exclusive concepts.
    Fizyxstlux
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,856
    pharmjod said:
    Being a movie tie in set and fun to build are not necessarily mutually exclusive concepts.
    Said Ninjago City...
    pharmjodFizyxOnebricktoomany
  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,874
    Heck, every one of the Ninjago movie sets are excellent! 
    SumoLegoFizyxstluxJohnyk668BrickByBrickbandit778Onebricktoomany
  • FizyxFizyx ColoradoMember Posts: 762
    pharmjod said:
    Heck, every one of the Ninjago movie sets are excellent! 

    I am actually hoping that over the next several years we will see movie-tie in set quality improving dramatically.  I think it's possible because, while there were some very good TLBM sets, there were more that were... bad.  And there were a whole lot of them.  But the TLNM movie sets were almost universally very good, and there was a much reduced count of them.  If LEGO can learn from that, they will hopefully realize that they are better off doing fewer sets of higher quality, instead of just flooding the market with as many sets as they are able to pump out that will just sit there on shelves forever.
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 2,505
    I think we're moving towards a better quality of licensed sets with Infinity War's Sanctum Sanctorum - it looks better than the buildings we've seen previously, and certainly more 'real world' than Avengers Tower or the Daily Bugle. Obviously, I'll reserve final judgement until it's in my hands, but it's the first Marvel set I've seriously considered buying 2 of.
    gmonkey76blakusdkprevereFizyxbandit778catwranglerMegtheCat
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,876
    Prison transport train would be awesome. We're lacking so badly with creativity with the trains theme, and the cop robber chase sets seem to be rehash after rehash.
    CM4SSumoLegoFizyxrd1899
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,779
    prevere said:
    Prison transport train would be awesome. We're lacking so badly with creativity with the trains theme, and the cop robber chase sets seem to be rehash after rehash.
    One of the new trains has a armored van and I guess a vault that goes on a flat car so it can be robbed. sigh.
    prevere
  • alaskaguyalaskaguy Member Posts: 326
    prevere said:
    Prison transport train would be awesome. We're lacking so badly with creativity with the trains theme, and the cop robber chase sets seem to be rehash after rehash.
    The nice thing is that if Lego would produce quality "train pieces and parts" sets, the creativity of what you could build would be limited only by your imagination - instead of the imagination of Lego employees.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,856
    prevere said:
    Prison transport train would be awesome...
    Finally, I can do my Under Siege 2: Dark Territory MOC.  Now to find a pony-tailed minifig in a black suit.
    BumblepantsprevereAstrobricksstluxgmonkey76dmcc0MegtheCat
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,876
    prevere said:
    Prison transport train would be awesome. We're lacking so badly with creativity with the trains theme, and the cop robber chase sets seem to be rehash after rehash.
    One of the new trains has a armored van and I guess a vault that goes on a flat car so it can be robbed. sigh.
    I thought you were kidding at first. But nope, I saw the image. Not very inspiring. Feels more like a Juniors train. 
    Bumblepants
  • CaptainLegoCaptainLego FloridaMember Posts: 383
    Obviously, Galidor is coming back. Duh.


  • SearchlightRGSearchlightRG AmericaMember Posts: 195
    Obviously, Galidor is coming back. Duh.


    Were Lego more like Hollywood I would believe it.
  • LyichirLyichir United StatesMember Posts: 720
    Obviously, Galidor is coming back. Duh.


    Were Lego more like Hollywood I would believe it.
    Hollywood doesn't really tend to bring back things that were both critically panned AND financially unsuccessful. More often they tend to look to past successes and try to replicate them (sometimes falling far short of the mark).
  • Bosstone100Bosstone100 USAMember Posts: 1,393
    ^ Captain America and the Punisher says otherwise.  :-)
    pharmjodgmonkey76
  • LyichirLyichir United StatesMember Posts: 720
    ^ Captain America and the Punisher says otherwise.  :-)
    It's a different story with adaptations; both of those are popular comics characters and the fact that they were the subject of poor adaptations in the past doesn't negate that popularity. Not so much the case with Galidor, which was an unsuccessful, unpopular Lego theme tied to a similarly unsuccessful and unpopular TV series.
    SumoLegoFizyx
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,856
    So, no Snorks reboot?  You're breakin' my heart.
    gmonkey76
  • CaptainLegoCaptainLego FloridaMember Posts: 383
    The Galidor comment was obviously a joke. It would have made a great toy line were it an action figure theme and not a LEGO theme.
  • daewoodaewoo TexasMember Posts: 318
    Between Bricks & Pieces, Bricklink and Brick Owl there is no reason to make parts packs. The fact that the classic buckets were scorned a few posts back shows this. (And I agree to some extent those typically aren't what I want either). They can't possibly make something that would appeal to everyone so just offer a buffet. Everyone wins.

    The one exception might be something like a 'Train Kit' with couplings, motors etc but even then, buying a City Train on discount is going to get you the same results at a better price.

    That's exactly the route I've taken to supply train parts for myself since I've struggled to find exactly what I want piece by piece without having to spend a small fortune.
  • ucsstarwarsfanucsstarwarsfan Washington StateMember Posts: 33
    I don't get it. Weren't we supposed to know by now what the next UCS Star Wars set is going to be? And why doesn't anyone seem to be curious?
  • SearchlightRGSearchlightRG AmericaMember Posts: 195
    I don't get it. Weren't we supposed to know by now what the next UCS Star Wars set is going to be? And why doesn't anyone seem to be curious?
    I think most of the speculation has gone on elsewhere. Cloud City or Star Destroyer seem to be the most popular guesses.
  • FizyxFizyx ColoradoMember Posts: 762
    I don't get it. Weren't we supposed to know by now what the next UCS Star Wars set is going to be? And why doesn't anyone seem to be curious?

    Spoiler:  The May release is almost certainly (as in, with confidence approaching 100% in the last week or so) a new Y-Wing.  There have been a number of leaks, and we've seen pictures of both Y-Wing pilot and astromech minifigs.

    The end of summer/fall release is still technically unknown, although I believe speculation among most groups settled on a new ISD over a Cloud City set a few weeks ago.
  • SearchlightRGSearchlightRG AmericaMember Posts: 195
    edited May 2018
    • At least one set based on Ant-Man and the Wasp. Will presumably include a new Scott Lang/Ant-Man figure, a Hope van Dyne/Wasp figure, and a Ghost figure, and depict a battle between the three if not the climax of the film. If a second set is produced, I could see it depicting another fight and potentially including Janet van Dyne, the original Wasp.
    Well, 76109 seems to have proven me at least half right. Suppose we'll have to wait and see what the story is with the second announced AMatW set. Marvel's still keeping fairly quiet on post Avengers 4 films, though they have revealed a few characters who will be appearing in Captain Marvel. By contrast, DC's upcoming projects now include a Booster Gold/Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) film and one based on the New Gods.

    I would also guess that we'll eventually see some sets based on the recently announced Star Wars: Resistance, though only time will tell whether the line will live past a wave or two; Rebels certainly didn't last long, whereas we continue to see sets from The Clone Wars.
  • The_RancorThe_Rancor Dorset, UKMember Posts: 730
    I don't know that the viewing audience for Disney XD is so high outside of the American Territories so that could be why some of the set designers said that Rebels was an incredibly difficult pitch to retailers in comparison with yet another X-Wing. However with a new series they'll almost certainly release a couple of waves to see what happens. I don't think the Freemaker sets have sold particularly well but that's only based on how many are constantly left on shelves in the places I've been.

    Clone Wars was great - and arguably had more story depth and less stylised CGI rendering than Rebels. But I think the fact that it was on Cartoon Network might have helped it pre-Disney.
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,438
    One problem (out of many) is the anime style of animation. Remember how bad the clone wars cartoon style Minifigures were? Hopefully LEGO gives us regular Minifigures. 
  • LyichirLyichir United StatesMember Posts: 720
    gmonkey76 said:
    One problem (out of many) is the anime style of animation. Remember how bad the clone wars cartoon style Minifigures were? Hopefully LEGO gives us regular Minifigures. 
    I feel like Lego has largely moved past that sort of thing, considering that Rebels had a very similar animation style to Clone Wars yet featured regular fig faces.
  • Diamondback_SixDiamondback_Six USAMember Posts: 75
    edited May 2018
    CCC said:
    I know this isn't Eurobricks, but predictions doesn't mean wants.
    And thank God for it, with how throw-people-out-for-slightest-trivial-reason Eurobricks is. Apparently being willing to say "nothing I gotta have this year, call me when you want my money again, LEGO" was too Not-A-Happy-Koolaid-Drinker for somebody with a Mod position...

  • Diamondback_SixDiamondback_Six USAMember Posts: 75
    edited May 2018
    alaskaguy said:
    The nice thing is that if Lego would produce quality "train pieces and parts" sets, the creativity of what you could build would be limited only by your imagination - instead of the imagination of Lego employees.
    THIS. Back in college I was actually designing LEGO-built scale models of historic railroad equipment (a single 85' North American standard-length postwar passenger car was over 2' long with more pieces than the UCS Star Destroyer) and it woulda been SO nice to have the chance to turn some of my designs from MLCAD digital models into reality. My ten-wide Union Pacific DDA40X would have been a behemoth, powered by FOUR train motors and ninety-eight studs over coupler faces... and a full thirteen-car Twentieth Century or Broadway Limited would probably need an entire house to itself; even the reduced eight-car "press special" version of a Century would be like 800 studs from streamlined pilot and bullet nose on the locomotive to tailsign on the observation car's teardrop end.
  • SearchlightRGSearchlightRG AmericaMember Posts: 195
    Welp, it seems that second Ant-Man and the Wasp set was hearsay only, unless it was a reference to the convention exclusive. Only got one Aquaman set as well, apparently, unless you count the upcoming Batman set that includes Aquaman and Ocean Master.
    SumoLegoBumblepants
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho PortugalMember Posts: 328
    But that upcoming Batman set is not Aquaman movie-related. It's just a ridiculous Batman set.
  • SearchlightRGSearchlightRG AmericaMember Posts: 195
    jnscoelho said:
    But that upcoming Batman set is not Aquaman movie-related. It's just a ridiculous Batman set.
    Hence why I said "unless". It's clearly not a true movie tie-in, but the included Aquaman does resemble the film version and the Ocean Master figure does seem to be based on his appearance from the film.
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho PortugalMember Posts: 328
    Currently Aquaman in the comics has long hair and a beard, probably to resemble its movie counterpart. That's why the minifigures look similar, I guess. 
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,856
    Not necessarily...

    gmonkey76Baby_Yoda
  • rd1899rd1899 U.S.A.Member Posts: 143
    edited November 2018

    In #70821, Emmet's vehicle is a mini/juniorized version of #70829, so what is Benny's mini spaceship suppose to represent?  The design is much closer to the "Classic" lines of #928 / #497 and its little siblings, than compared to #71214, so it very likely is a mini-model of a 'new' spaceship set.  Though, the questions are what the scale and price range of this 'new' set could be.
    On the upper end of expectations, we could be looking at something along the lines of
    a modified LL 928, based on similarities to that spaceship, though it could be something along the lines of an LL 924 as well, or even a mash-up of multiple Classic Space ships and vehicles. (Perhaps numbered "LL 92E3" because there are big scratches through the "8"s on the "LL 928" bricks.)
    The main similarity in favor of an LL 928 is that the above mini ship has sloped bricks on the wings, which were unique to #928 / #497.  Though, the sloped bricks could represent simplified versions of the tail pieces used on the wings of the LL 924, as it has the attitude control rockets (part # 3963) on those pieces.
    Another question is whether this will be a standalone vehicle set, or perhaps as part of a larger moonbase set (all those other space people have to live and work somewhere).
    If there is a moonbase set, then hopefully it will have something along the lines of new crater pieces.  E.g. modified plate pieces with moulded crater(s), which could be used to create custom lunar landscapes.
    * * *
    Also, with the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 next July, if there's going to be an updated version of #10029 Lunar Lander (Discovery), next summer would be the time.
    A bonus would be a minifig-scale command/service module, either as part of the same set, or as a separate set.  Given the cone-shape of the command module, this would likely require some new parts, which would be a good thing!  These new parts could be used in future sets to make realistic space vehicles such as the planned Orion Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle (Wikipedia), rather than not-another rehashed space shuttle. 
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