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  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    They are probably just mucking about, or trying to make the seller think what they have is really popular. Or maybe doing it on their own auction to try to make it get onto "hot" lists.
  • LuLegoLuLego Member Posts: 1,010
    Homer Simpson with that nodding bird springs to mind!
  • HyogaHyoga Member Posts: 13
    Maybe it's made to deter other potential buyers ? If you see a lot of bids you might quickly pass, thinking there is too much competition for the price to stay low. 
  • Boba Fett Brickheadz is the only one of these abominations that I would consider getting for myself, and they made it an exclusive?
    dmcc0Jackad7
  • jason1976jason1976 Member Posts: 322
    edited September 2017
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-fire-station-/362113163552 hmmmmmm

    I've messaged the seller to say this likely ain't proper Lego and am waiting their reply.....

    This pic really is the clincher http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UMMAAOSw8-xZyOe-/s-l1600.jpg

  • FauchFauch Member Posts: 2,679
    this one is weird : https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B01H3SVKB4/ref=pd_luc_rh_spsub?psc=1

    from Lego? so this is the real minifig with non-Lego weapons?
  • FowlerBricksFowlerBricks Member Posts: 1,731
    Strange.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
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  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited October 2017
    Ridiculous auctions span all LEGO periods.  This 1966-67 #605 Fiat 1800 sedan is known in 4 common colors... red, blue, gray and white.  This says "Rare color".... well yeah if it was found in light blue like is shown in 2 of 3 images, I could see this one selling for more than 500 Euros if it were the color  shown in the top 2 images. 

    http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lego-1-87-Fiat-1800-Limousine-blau-rare-Farbe-60er-Jh-87/321961548963?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=2&asc=46153&meid=3945535e81f14553bff8bd5ab398e8fb&pid=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&sd=370876686884&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

    It's only the bottom image where we see the true color.... common regular blue. where 99 Euros would be a bit steep, unless it were a near mint example.   Also... the lack of good images of the front, back and sides could make for an unpleasant surprise when you find things like blemishes, or rusty metal wheels or heavy wear marks... those would drop the value considerably.  We can't make that determination in these images.


    These originzlly came in cardboard boxes with an open side to view in.

    If this were a black Fialt 1800 (ony about 1/2 dozen known)... then it would be worth thousands.   I saw one sell on Ebay 5 years ago in nice played with condition for over 3000 Euros.



    Funny thing it was never sold in a plastic garage... but due to the rarity of the Fiat color... no collector would quibble.

    catwrangler
  • nexandernexander Member Posts: 908
    Is it bad I like It?


    FowlerBrickscatwranglerandheAllBrick
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    I know where there is often one in the street. The only problem is running off with it through a busy high street.
    catwrangler
  • Switchfoot55Switchfoot55 Member Posts: 3,356
    nexander said:
    Is it bad I like It?


    I guess it just depends on how badly you like it...
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    In 1998 TLG made a 50 year 're-issue' of the 1948 original wooden blocks child set.  So what they do wrong in 1998?  They never put anything onto the 1998 version to show that it is not an original 1948 set.

    So now we have people who (knowingly or unknowingly) are selling the reissue as the real 1948 set... and unknowing buyers are paying a fortune for the reissue!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/252118080811?rmvSB=true

    myscrnnmAllBrick
  • HanzoHanzo Member Posts: 607
    edited October 2017
    Istokg said:
    In 1998 TLG made a 50 year 're-issue' of the 1948 original wooden blocks child set.  So what they do wrong in 1998?  They never put anything onto the 1998 version to show that it is not an original 1948 set.

    So now we have people who (knowingly or unknowingly) are selling the reissue as the real 1948 set... and unknowing buyers are paying a fortune for the reissue!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/252118080811?rmvSB=true

    I mean, you have to put a little blame on the buyer for not doing their due diligence.  Anyone with the internet can research and see it was re-released, plus the fact it looks too good to be that old.
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited October 2017
    Hanzo said:
    Istokg said:
    In 1998 TLG made a 50 year 're-issue' of the 1948 original wooden blocks child set.  So what they do wrong in 1998?  They never put anything onto the 1998 version to show that it is not an original 1948 set.

    So now we have people who (knowingly or unknowingly) are selling the reissue as the real 1948 set... and unknowing buyers are paying a fortune for the reissue!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/252118080811?rmvSB=true

    I mean, you have to put a little blame on the buyer for not doing their due diligence.  Anyone with the internet can research and see it was re-released, plus the fact it looks too good to be that old.
    Well.... here's the buyer... and it's not that the buyer isn't well informed about LEGO... 

    http://minifigpriceguide.com/wordpress/lego-1948-wooden-blocks-klodser/

    .... just not well informed about old LEGO...  ;-)
    sid3windr
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    ^ Like many lego fan sites though, that seems to be more about repeating what is read on the internet rather than anything insightful.

    The lack of response to your comment on their site shows how much they care about facts.


    sid3windr
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie Member Posts: 1,818
    Istokg said:
    In 1998 TLG made a 50 year 're-issue' of the 1948 original wooden blocks child set.  So what they do wrong in 1998?  They never put anything onto the 1998 version to show that it is not an original 1948 set.

    So now we have people who (knowingly or unknowingly) are selling the reissue as the real 1948 set... and unknowing buyers are paying a fortune for the reissue!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/252118080811?rmvSB=true

    You obviously know more about the old sets that most people, but if they never put anything on the reissue to tell it is not the original version, how can you tell? The set could have been in the bottom drawer of a dresser for 70 years, untouched. 
  • Switchfoot55Switchfoot55 Member Posts: 3,356
    ^^Is it just me, or is the over emphasis on BOXES concerning to anyone else? 

    I know he says sealed...I just imagine a pallet full of empty "sealed" boxes arriving for $1M. 
    sid3windr
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,696
    ^ and ^^ If anyone were actually thinking about buying that collection, they would probably spend the extra couple of bucks and fly to the location and physically inspect them. 
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited October 2017
    Istokg said:
    In 1998 TLG made a 50 year 're-issue' of the 1948 original wooden blocks child set.  So what they do wrong in 1998?  They never put anything onto the 1998 version to show that it is not an original 1948 set.
     unknowingly) are selling the reissue as the real 1948 set... and unknowing buyers are paying a fortune for the reissue!
    So now we have people who (knowingly or

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/252118080811?rmvSB=true

    You obviously know more about the old sets that most people, but if they never put anything on the reissue to tell it is not the original version, how can you tell? The set could have been in the bottom drawer of a dresser for 70 years, untouched. 
    You asked a very good question... And as a seasoned veteran of old sets (and a decades long coin collector), I learned that there is virtually no such thing as a perfect old set (or perfect old coin).  There's usually some tell-tale trace of age even to the best sets (old mint set-aside coins even have a bit of tarnish or 'patina', even for the most carefully put away items).  There always seems to be some trace of 'oxidation', shop wear, or attic wear...

    The most perfect LEGO boxed wooden toy I have ever seen (and they are extremely rare in boxed condition) was this one... from the late 1940s/early 1950s....



    The inside is perfect, and box has seen better days.

    If I didn't know that the LEGO 500 Wooden Blocks wood boxed set was re-issued in 1998, I would still be questioning why this supposedly old set was in such perfect condition.  And it's not just because I don't believe that perfect old sets don't exist... it's that fakery is not solely a modern issue with Chinese knock-offs.  There is a lot of old LEGO items being sold with "box is not original" or "inlays not original" (mostly on Ebay) that concerns me.  And once that set hits the secondary market as a real item... it becomes a ticking time bomb when future sales of the item come up.

    People are much less aware of old counterfeits, than they are about new ones, and for obvious reasons... they're not generally talked about in the online community.

    Here is a 'real' (perfect box) 1961-65 LEGO basic set in a box variation I had never seen before... but it is a real set, so far only yet found in Sweden and France.




    And here is a fantasy set (based on Danish emergency servces company called "FALCK".  This set is a fake, made by an acquaintance of mine, who has dozens of real 1960s sets.



    That partial blue brick on the cover would set off alarms for me (TLG only put complete bricks on the box top)...

    For modern sets and especially parts... the online forum discussions generally do a good job of spotting fakery.

    For old sets... there's no public forum for the general discussion of this issue, and ways to spot them (this is where I would ordinarily put in a shameless plug for the Fake/Counterfeit LEGO Chapter of my computer desktop LEGO Guide  ;-) ).

    People who get into collecting old LEGO... should do so cautiously... or you could get burned... like the owner of the wooden box blocks set did.
    MooreFXdatsunrobbiesid3windrRJAS1972stluxcatwranglerDoctorMcGann
  • CaptainLegoCaptainLego Member Posts: 385


    Not eBay or a specific listing, but, I noticed that minimum buy amount while searching for some black fenders. Maybe an error?
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    BL were bringing in some new rules about how stores become featured, and that is not possible if you have closed the store in something like the past three months. I remember it being discussed at the time, and that people would just slap a $1m minimum buy on, which effectively stops people buying from their store without closing it. It stops orders while they are away.
  • Jackad7Jackad7 Member Posts: 555
    edited October 2017
    Alright so Im assuming most of the people in here will remember the extremely cheap lego sets that pop up from foreign sellers with no feedback. At the time I didn't really know what their goal was since they are always shut down before they could keep any of the money. Well I recently saw a video about this for a non-lego item. Initially I thought it was a really crappy ploy but it still has never quite added up and the video I watched claims that these people are actually stealing your shipping/billing information to sell illegally. It was a really long explanation that is kind of hard to follow but in short they try and match this information to billing/credit card information to allow them to buy stuff under your name. Usually you can dispute this but it apparently really slams sellers.
    1. They 'sell' stuff extremely cheap to get your information. Their account can't provide tracking so they get shut down. 
    2. They then sell stuff moderately inexpensive/cheap, let's say they're selling some $60 set for $20
    3. When item 2 sells they then purchase it from another seller for $60 with your information.
    4. Person who purchased item 2 receives it but you dispute random charge on your card. 
    5. You get your money back, scammer keeps the $20, legitimate seller out $60, person who purchased item 2 is oblivious(and probably had their information swiped too). 

    From what the video said it's more difficult to pull off step 2 on eBay which is why sellers don't usually get hit but they are definitely information swiping on eBay. Also they seem to need credit card or billing account information already but with the big equifax breach if you're an American I wouldn't take any chances (or really anyone for that matter).

    Sorry for typos I'm in my phone. If this is still unclear let me know and I'll try and explain it better on a computer 
    sid3windrricecakeMaffyD
  • HanzoHanzo Member Posts: 607
    It's a trap!
  • CyberdragonCyberdragon Member Posts: 550
    edited November 2017
    Hanzo said:
    It's a trap!
    Yep, it's a phishing attempt. Just like Jackad said, they just want your info to scam others with.
  • HanzoHanzo Member Posts: 607
    I mean, it's like fishing, if no one bites so be it, but one person with more money than sense and.......
  • M1J0EM1J0E Member Posts: 644
    The part I really can’t figure out, beyond who’s listing something at such ridiculous prices, is how in other auctions they’ll say “last one” of 10 sold or whatever.  Not present in this auction, but with so many you have to wonder who’s doing the buying at super inflated prices.
  • inklingbricksinklingbricks Member Posts: 80
    edited December 2017
    With prices THAT ridiculous, sometimes people do this to reserve it for a seller who's already agreed to buy it - the price is set so high no-one else would buy it, and then when the designated seller is ready to pay for it they message the seller about it, and the seller responds with an Offer for the agreed upon (normal) price.
    M1J0E
  • colaycolay Member Posts: 547
    Its drug deals. Nothing gets shipped or sold. Payment is made for 'goods' on offer, at least thats what Ive been told when things are so outrageous
    sid3windr
  • M1J0EM1J0E Member Posts: 644
    Wow cool I’d have no ideas about these.  Thanks for the insights!
  • colaycolay Member Posts: 547
    It happens with Vintage SW figures and things. Especially when you see 4 (for example) rare figures and its a library photo etc, its cos the items arent real
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    M1J0E said:
    The part I really can’t figure out, beyond who’s listing something at such ridiculous prices, is how in other auctions they’ll say “last one” of 10 sold or whatever.  Not present in this auction, but with so many you have to wonder who’s doing the buying at super inflated prices.
    It is usually because they have changed the price. The others would have sold at a more reasonable price. Click on the sold ones to see.
  • M1J0EM1J0E Member Posts: 644
    Thanks again for all the tips!  I’m getting smarter about how Ebay works.  
  • JRLJRL Member Posts: 86
    This made me chuckle:


  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    Should she really be holding that syringe pointing at her face?
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    While it is expensive, a sealed one will normally set you back £30-35.

    She was one of the high fliers from S1 on the secondary market.
  • BrickByBrickBrickByBrick Member Posts: 747
    CCC said:
    While it is expensive, a sealed one will normally set you back £30-35.

    She was one of the high fliers from S1 on the secondary market.
    The Nurse is ridiculous, it's one of the few I need to complete my series 1 collection (I have every numbered series after that, just missing a few DFB and all of GB cuz I don't live in Europe), but I really don't want to spend $40 for a single figure..
    Especially because the only reason I want it is to complete my collection. Guess I'll just have to keep looking for a decent used one.
  • FowlerBricksFowlerBricks Member Posts: 1,731
    She's not even all that interesting.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    CCC said:
    While it is expensive, a sealed one will normally set you back £30-35.

    She was one of the high fliers from S1 on the secondary market.
    The Nurse is ridiculous, it's one of the few I need to complete my series 1 collection (I have every numbered series after that, just missing a few DFB and all of GB cuz I don't live in Europe), but I really don't want to spend $40 for a single figure..
    Especially because the only reason I want it is to complete my collection. Guess I'll just have to keep looking for a decent used one.
    So, you have Mr. Gold and you are worried about the Series 1 Nurse?
    SumoLegokiki180703SprinkleOtterIceCreamClone
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    Team GB is still quite easy to get hold of, you just need to be willing to pay! I know quite a few got shipped over back in 2012 before the price rises. I even hand delivered one set to a guy at the Lawrenceville store.
  • BrickByBrickBrickByBrick Member Posts: 747
    edited February 2018
    CCC said:
    Team GB is still quite easy to get hold of, you just need to be willing to pay! I know quite a few got shipped over back in 2012 before the price rises. I even hand delivered one set to a guy at the Lawrenceville store.
    Yeah, I know, just super expensive, and I'm prioritizing series 1 because I at least have an excuse to explain the absence of GB in my collection ;)

    But 1 is a number, so I can't just pretend they didn't make the series...

    Pitfall69 said:
    CCC said:
    While it is expensive, a sealed one will normally set you back £30-35.

    She was one of the high fliers from S1 on the secondary market.
    The Nurse is ridiculous, it's one of the few I need to complete my series 1 collection (I have every numbered series after that, just missing a few DFB and all of GB cuz I don't live in Europe), but I really don't want to spend $40 for a single figure..
    Especially because the only reason I want it is to complete my collection. Guess I'll just have to keep looking for a decent used one.
    So, you have Mr. Gold and you are worried about the Series 1 Nurse?
    Mr. Gold doesn't exist...
    Just kidding. I bought a custom one so I "have one". I know it's not real, but it's good enough for me to display. Only time I've gone to the dark side like that.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    ^Somewhere; @SumoLego just threw up in his mouth a little
    Fizyxgmonkey76SumoLegokiki180703davetheoxygenmansid3windrVorpalRyuSprinkleOtter
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