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  • PapaBearPapaBear Member Posts: 628
    baublitz said:
    PapaBear said:
    baublitz said:
    piratemania7 said:
    I slightly wonder if this won't just rapidly reappear in stock within perhaps a matter of weeks.

    At first, it was all out warfare; it seemed like it would be months until this was back in regular stock.  Now, it seems as though a lot of peoples orders are changing quickly and a lot of stores seem to keep up their new stock so who knows...
    I'd imagine anyone who puts forth effort can get one before Christmas. Perhaps those lazy parents who think they can waltz into a LEGO store on Dec. 22nd and expect to get one will be out of luck and have to buy it on Ebay. :) 

    Parents buying a set worth over 200 for a kid is enough for me to get upset, but I'm sure they're out there! Buying for the family is different, however.
    Why would you get upset over that?  As long as they're not growing up to be assholes......

    There's so many more important things to be upset over.  There's 28 sets worth $200 or more right now.  The vast majority of which go to kids.
    It's usually the kids who are entitled, spoiled little snots that I see in the Lego store or facebook that get me going.... not to say all are like that and I know that, but it seems like the majority in my experience. It won't keep me up at night, I just get frustrated when little johnny is wailing and complaining in the store until mommy buys him the helicarrier. The most expensive set I ever had as a kid was a $110 Droid MTT and it was awesome because my brother and I worked for it.

    Anyways, you're right there are many other things to be upset about. The point of my last comment was about availability speculation more than the kids, which was off topic. :) 
    I can relate to that.  Personally, I hate spoiled, entitled kids, but I have no authority in reprimanding them as I am not their parents.  The cold reality of the world will wake them up when they get older.

    The best sets I had came from my father (I even got a sweet electric train that I still have most of the pieces too).  My mother's side didn't see the point of LEGOs and would usually get me useless books instead.  I was happy with any LEGO set though, even if it was a pink #6418 with missing parts from store thieves.

    From your post, I just thought you were seriously upset kids were getting expensive toys.  AFOLs will benefit from expensive sales to little kids.  Too bad we can't prevent all of those kids from turning into jerks as they grow old.
    baublitzcatwrangler
  • myscrnnmmyscrnnm Member Posts: 25
    Mine finally went to "in warehouse" and then "completed" earlier today. Estimated delivery is October 4th. Hopefully I'm home when it arrives, or it doesn't require a signature. 

    Just hope I can still get the black VIP card as the transaction is dated the 28th. Anyone know what the official word is on those? The FAQ says early on that anyone who buys it through the end of 2017 will get one, but later in the document it says through 2017 or while stocks last.
    baublitz
  • PapaBearPapaBear Member Posts: 628
    I'd also have to say that the stickers on a flagship set this big is really dumb.  It might be satisfying to get stickers on perfectly, but I can never do that.  No matter how accurate I am, the stickers always seem slightly askew.  The corners always seem to peel up soon after placing them.  I feel like I need some elaborate tech station just to get them on correctly with lots of helping hands magnifying lenses and unique tools specific just for applying stickers to LEGO.

    That said, it appears someone on Bricklink is trying to sell the sticker sheet for $130.  Anyone planning to open their set before Christmas that doesn't want the sheet might as well undercut him for a lot less.  Couldn't hurt.
    baublitzcatwrangler
  • Muftak1Muftak1 Member Posts: 547
    I've got the email too - also with out the VIP extention bit (I'm in Ireland)

    Fingers crossed...
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,260
    monstblitz said:
    Putting stickers on this set is like painting the Mona Lisa and then drawing a Hitler mustache on it with a sharpee. 
    Sounds like you'd much rather have had da Vinci lovingly paint it on when he originally did it ;)
  • dmcc0dmcc0 Member Posts: 778
    ^that does seem like an awful lot of spares.  Maybe not the actual quantity, but the quantity of parts that are the same.  The bars, battle droid arms and hose parts in particular would have me scouring the instructions again just to make sure (I'm sure you have already!)

    I'd also be waiting for the next post on here to say "You've missed step nnn where you use all of those spare bits" where nnn equals a step near the start of the build ;-)
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,703
    I’ve been keeping track of each bag (17 in total) not a single one had double of pieces besides bag 1, it turned out to be the same for everyone else. I’m 99.99% I sure I didn’t miss any out, hopefully more people could share their outcomes and we could work out the exact number.
  • monstblitzmonstblitz Member Posts: 653
    Aanchir said:
    Maybe try reading my post again, but this time paying attention to the actual words? I never said nor implied that people who like stickers the way I do are a majority. What I was saying is that people so stubbornly selfish that they'd rather pay the same amount for the same contents minus the COMPLETELY OPTIONAL sticker sheet are a demographic that LEGO is better off not catering to. That would be like a person refusing dinner at their favorite restaurant because it had optional pepper grinders on tables and they didn't like pepper. Or a person refusing a DVD of their favorite movie because it came with optional audio commentary and they don't like listening to audio commentaries. Or a person refusing a new installment in their favorite video game series because it gave them an option to play as a girl and they didn't like playing as a girl.

    Also, I can't even fathom how mind-numbingly full of yourself you'd have to be to genuinely think I'm only "pretending" to like stickers. Really? Why is the thought that people might have different opinions than you so unreasonable to you? If I ever get a set where I'm concerned about the stickers degrading, I'll leave them off, because that option is just as available to me as it is to you or anyone else. But honestly, even if the stickers on a set of mine did degrade (and none of those on sets I've gotten in the past decade have done so), all I'd have to do is scrub off the adhesive marks and I'd be left with the same set I would have had if it hadn't come with stickers in the first place, or if I hadn't applied them. Problem solved. It's not that hard a concept to grasp.

    And calling a sticker sheet a "turd"? Holy crap, did a sticker sheet kill your parents or something? Because you're taking its mere existence waaaaaay more personally than you have any sensible reason to.
    Those analogies aren't very accurate as you are describing something that is a very clear choice or preference.  An optional condiment where you can use one, none, or a different.  Bonus content to go with the main feature that you can watch or not watch.  A choice to be one character or a different character. 

    This set was designed to be built with stickers.  The instructions will instruct users to apply the stickers to the set.  Yes, they can skip it, but it leaves the owner wondering, "Why are these even here?"  And worse, if you choose to do it, and do it wrong, you will have made the very expensive collectible you purchased worse looking.

    A better analogy - Buying a very expensive automobile which comes with a cheap racing stripe that you apply to the car yourself.  The user manual will tell you to put the racing stripe on and where to put it. If you don't do it exactly right it will look like hell.  Sure, I can leave it off.  But everyone would ask, "Why is it here?  Why would they do this to me when they could have painted the stripe on?"  What's worse, is if you choose to apply the stripe, as maybe it applies some flair to the car, is over time it will start to peel and bubble, making your expensive automobile look like a real POS.

    I actually tried to edit my last post to read, "Those who pretend to like stickers AND the even smaller minority such as yourself who seem to actually like stickers" but it was past the edit window. 

    I truly believe most who defend stickers are doing so out of blind loyalty to the Lego product the same way some sports fans will defend poor performing players and coaches. 
    oldtodd33
  • steveomclsteveomcl Member Posts: 202
    Adzbadboy said:


    For those of you who are interested the set contains 153 extra pieces if you count the Brick Separator and the two addtional studs for Chewbacca’s Bowcaster, or 150 if you don’t count the parts inventory. Must be a new record for most extra pieces right?
    So it's a 7391 piece Millennium Falcon! TLG trolling us. 
  • RJAS1972RJAS1972 Member Posts: 24

    Mine arrived yesterday. Even after seeing lots of pictures and videos I was surprised by the size of the box. It's bigger than I thought.

    Other than the tray of the manual partially destroyed, due to the weight of the manual, everything was pristine.


    After bag 3 I already have about 30 spares. You can't forget that spares are arranged by bag number. It's not difficult to have a lot of spares for the same part if it's distributed along the build.

  • Habitant99Habitant99 Member Posts: 99
    Adzbadboy said:


    For those of you who are interested the set contains 153 extra pieces if you count the Brick Separator and the two addtional studs for Chewbacca’s Bowcaster, or 150 if you don’t count the parts inventory. Must be a new record for most extra pieces right?
    NOW I CAN FINALLY COMPLETE MY DROID ARM TENTACLE ROLLERSKATING FAUCET MOC! 
    catwranglerbaublitzRainstorm26AdeelZubairMaffyDSwitchfoot55FowlerBrickscaterham7mak0137
  • FireheartFireheart Member Posts: 631
    Adzbadboy said:


    For those of you who are interested the set contains 153 extra pieces if you count the Brick Separator and the two addtional studs for Chewbacca’s Bowcaster, or 150 if you don’t count the parts inventory. Must be a new record for most extra pieces right?

    Stick them on eBay as they came from one of the first 100 signed sets, they will sell for £100 plus :)
    catwranglerbaublitzmonstblitzAdeelZubairYodalicious
  • baublitzbaublitz Member Posts: 53
    steveomcl said:
    Adzbadboy said:


    For those of you who are interested the set contains 153 extra pieces if you count the Brick Separator and the two addtional studs for Chewbacca’s Bowcaster, or 150 if you don’t count the parts inventory. Must be a new record for most extra pieces right?
    So it's a 7391 piece Millennium Falcon! TLG trolling us. 
    Lolz nah, there are intentional spare parts in most LEGO sets that don't count toward the piece count. You may have known that and are trying to be funny, but just in case this is a TIL, scroll to the bottom of any parts list to see set spares.

    I'm surprised there aren't more spares in a set this size. 
    Aanchirgmonkey76FollowsClosely
  • baublitzbaublitz Member Posts: 53
    Parts list is up for 75192, including spares and counterparts. Amazing speed, thanks whoever posted it up on BL!

    https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?id=157691#T=I
    snowhitie
  • Habitant99Habitant99 Member Posts: 99
    One thing that is funny but not ha-ha funny is that TLG has finally gotten enough inventory to start filling a lot of backorders which is fantastic, but now I finally have enough VIP points to get Saturn V and it's been sold out for what seems like months now.
  • csc316csc316 Member Posts: 1
    Habitant99 said:
    One thing that is funny but not ha-ha funny is that TLG has finally gotten enough inventory to start filling a lot of backorders which is fantastic, but now I finally have enough VIP points to get Saturn V and it's been sold out for what seems like months now.
    One of the Lego stores up here (Chicago) just had six of these in stock, and another store said they had six coming in a day or two.  They only let me buy 2.  But it seems the store inventory and the [email protected] inventory on the Saturn V set are really out of whack.  So if you have a store close...
  • Habitant99Habitant99 Member Posts: 99
    I always try to avoid my local store, mainly because it's in Disney Springs, which is like, well, my idea of hell-shopping.

    Rainstorm26MegtheCatSumoLego
  • MaffyDMaffyD Member Posts: 3,497
    edited September 2017
    ^^ Interesting that you've mentioned Saturn V, in light of the sticker debate. The Ideas set does not have stickers. I have yet to understand or have it explained to me why a big Ideas sets like this has no stickers but plenty of printed pieces, but monumental sets like the Falcon do have stickers (and some printed parts, which makes it even more odd). I'm not so fussed as I can place a sticker like a pro, but there is no argument that makes sense of stickers as long as Ideas keeps on showing off it's printed pieces...
    Mynattbaublitzbluedragoncatwranglergmonkey76Mr_CrossPapaBearmonstblitzsnowhitie
  • LyichirLyichir Member Posts: 1,009
    MaffyD said:
    ^^ Interesting that you've mentioned Saturn V, in light of the sticker debate. The Ideas set does not have stickers. I have yet to understand or have it explained to me why a big Ideas sets like this has no stickers but plenty of printed pieces, but monumental sets like the Falcon do have stickers (and some printed parts, which makes it even more odd). I'm not so fussed as I can place a sticker like a pro, but there is no argument that makes sense of stickers as long as Ideas keeps on showing off it's printed pieces...
    Part of it is that the Saturn V doesn't really have that many more prints than your typical set. The Saturn V only has 10 unique printed elements, many of which are used multiple times per set—many sets include that many unique prints in the minifigures alone! The UCS Falcon has 7 unique printed elements not counting the figures, and six more in the figures themselves—hardly a shabby number of prints, all things considered. If the stickered parts had all been printed instead (some of which would require the added expense of new tooling to print parts or surfaces of parts that had not been printed before), that'd total at least 12 additional printed elements (almost doubling the number of printed parts), many of which would never again see use in other sets. Budget-wise, that'd probably require cutting 12 other new elements (recolors, etc.) from the set (many of which would be a better use of money since they would more likely see use future sets), and probably then some to cover the new tooling.
    MAGNINOMINISUMBRAAanchir
  • ecmo47ecmo47 Member Posts: 2,101
    Mine just shipped that was ordered at 10:00(ish) EST on the 14th.
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU Member Posts: 644
    @MaffyD there is also the consideration of Licensed prints. the owner of the Logo/name. may not agree to stickers and instead push Lego to use printed parts. as Caterham did with the 7. NASA too may have an agreement where the Flag, and Logo are always printed (I've not seen a set where this wasn't the case). where as Disney and Star Wars have both long supported stickers for their products.

  • SithLord196SithLord196 Member Posts: 1,161
    Mine shipped yesterday.

    Interesting note, but mine is shipping from Illinois. Prior to this, all my [email protected] items shipped from Mississippi. 

    Regarding stickers, I'm not real happy with them but it is what it is. The only one I really can't stand is the one for the plaque. 
  • gunther.schnitzelgunther.schnitzel Member Posts: 92
    86 days to go.
  • baublitzbaublitz Member Posts: 53
    steveomcl said:
    Adzbadboy said:


    For those of you who are interested the set contains 153 extra pieces if you count the Brick Separator and the two addtional studs for Chewbacca’s Bowcaster, or 150 if you don’t count the parts inventory. Must be a new record for most extra pieces right?
    So it's a 7391 piece Millennium Falcon! TLG trolling us. 
    Looks like you might have an extra black technic piece, according to the bricklink parts list. Now you get to find out where it goes or just tell yourself it's a spare spare. :)

    https://imgur.com/a/DIgSs
  • CM4SCM4S Member Posts: 1,370
    I am on the waiting list at my local store
    Rainstorm26gmonkey76
  • Rainstorm26Rainstorm26 Member Posts: 1,011
    Anyone know how quickly rebrickable will get the inventory now that bricklink has it?
  • mustang69mustang69 Member Posts: 544
    I called my local store and got added to the wait list. I'm glad I could do it over the phone.
  • Yo_dAYo_dA Member Posts: 86
    For those in the US that received their shipping confirmation yesterday, I'm curious what the weight of your shipment is showing. 

    My package is only .3 lbs, so I'm assuming that's just the Green Ninja Mech Dragon and Learn Through Fun free gift.  The order on [email protected] shows everything has shipped, but I only have one tracking number.

  • CrzypenguCrzypengu Member Posts: 77
    steveomcl said:
    Adzbadboy said:


    For those of you who are interested the set contains 153 extra pieces if you count the Brick Separator and the two addtional studs for Chewbacca’s Bowcaster, or 150 if you don’t count the parts inventory. Must be a new record for most extra pieces right?
    So it's a 7391 piece Millennium Falcon! TLG trolling us. 
    No, I counted there are 7530 pieces used in the instructions and I am sure I missed a few steps. I just have to find out where the 11 pieces are coming from. 
  • SithLord196SithLord196 Member Posts: 1,161
    Yo_dA said:
    For those in the US that received their shipping confirmation yesterday, I'm curious what the weight of your shipment is showing. 

    My package is only .3 lbs, so I'm assuming that's just the Green Ninja Mech Dragon and Learn Through Fun free gift.  The order on [email protected] shows everything has shipped, but I only have one tracking number.

    I got two tracking numbers for mine.

    One is a package that weighs 28.4 lbs, which is undoubtedly the Millennium Falcon. 

    The other one is a package that weighs 0.3 lbs, which I'm assuming is the two promotional items. 

    Not sure if this helps or not, but my tracking number for the Millennium Falcon is much shorter than the one for the promotional items, as in ten less digits. 

    Might be worth a call if you only have the one tracking number?
  • Dfchang813Dfchang813 Member Posts: 69
    Just starting my build. Wow Stage 1 is no joke. Right off the bat punches you in mouth with the huge infrastructure build. Took me 3 hrs to do. I am keeping track of spare parts as well. Extra parts are not per bag but per stage. Here mine for Stage 1 in line with the others before me. 


    C0chise
  • VenunderVenunder Member Posts: 2,655
    153 spare parts?  So at 10p per part that is at least £15.30 per set that could have been used for printed parts. Plus the £1.90 that the Brick Separator is worth.
    Since none of us here needs another Brick Separator!

    But of course these small parts are generally about 6p each 
    Which is still £9.18 + £1.90 = £11.08. 

    TLG could then use these printed the parts on the inevitable multiple versions of the Millenium Falcon that will be made in the next 10 years. 
    baublitzMr_Cross
  • stetstet Member Posts: 45
    Lego has no problem using all printed parts for many cheap sets, such as Juniors.  There is no reason that the most expensive set every produced has stickers.
    baublitzPapaBeardougts
  • PapaBearPapaBear Member Posts: 628
    I was under the impression that spare parts varied in each individual set.  Every set will have the same number of spare parts?

    I thought spare parts were included because they sort the distribution of parts into a set by weight, and they make sure to add an extra piece when the resolution of the scale's digits is too close to the weight of the part.
  • Yo_dAYo_dA Member Posts: 86
    SithLord196 said:
    Yo_dA said:
    For those in the US that received their shipping confirmation yesterday, I'm curious what the weight of your shipment is showing. 

    My package is only .3 lbs, so I'm assuming that's just the Green Ninja Mech Dragon and Learn Through Fun free gift.  The order on [email protected] shows everything has shipped, but I only have one tracking number.

    I got two tracking numbers for mine.

    One is a package that weighs 28.4 lbs, which is undoubtedly the Millennium Falcon. 

    The other one is a package that weighs 0.3 lbs, which I'm assuming is the two promotional items. 

    Not sure if this helps or not, but my tracking number for the Millennium Falcon is much shorter than the one for the promotional items, as in ten less digits. 

    Might be worth a call if you only have the one tracking number?

    To my surprise my Falcon was sitting on my front porch when I got home this evening!  This is going to be a great weekend!
    MegtheCatTyresOFlaherty
  • CM4SCM4S Member Posts: 1,370
    Paperballpark said:
    Still with the sticker debate? *yawn*
    LEMME TELL YA, I HATE STICKERS SO MUCH!!! gosh! 

    ;P
    LegoboybaublitzMrKettlebeemo
  • ecmo47ecmo47 Member Posts: 2,101
    Stickers are not affecting the demand for the set so that tells me that Lego doesn't give a (crap) about this debate. 
    nicoyagomezgmonkey76datsunrobbie
  • HanzoHanzo Member Posts: 607
    I think someone should start an anti-sticker online petition.  Those always work.
    FollowsCloselymak0137JBricks27
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,014
    stet said:
    Lego has no problem using all printed parts for many cheap sets, such as Juniors.  There is no reason that the most expensive set every produced has stickers.
    • Juniors sets are designed so they can be built by four-year-olds who don't necessarily have the dexterity to apply stickers carefully.
    • Impulse-priced retail sets aimed at kids tend to sell many, many more copies than hugely expensive exclusive sets aimed at adults, which makes it easier to offset the cost of new elements (including new prints, molds, recolors, etc) — much cheaper to split the cost of each new element over a million units than just ten thousand or so.
    • All those printed pieces in Juniors sets are probably a contributing factor to their disproportionately high price per piece.
    Venunder said:
    153 spare parts?  So at 10p per part that is at least £15.30 per set that could have been used for printed parts. Plus the £1.90 that the Brick Separator is worth.
    Since none of us here needs another Brick Separator!

    But of course these small parts are generally about 6p each 
    Which is still £9.18 + £1.90 = £11.08. 

    TLG could then use these printed the parts on the inevitable multiple versions of the Millenium Falcon that will be made in the next 10 years. 
    This is kind of a silly idea, as it assumes that extra pieces are an arbitrary wasted expense LEGO goes to just because they can, rather than something that offsets its costs by preventing unnecessary customer service calls and replacement parts shipments.

    Also, besides the number of stickered patterns in this set that would only have any use in a set at around this scale and level of detail, the logistical cost of a printed piece LEGO doesn't expect to reuse but once every few years (and thus has to keep in stock year after year to get their money's worth out of it) is considerably greater than the logistical cost of a piece LEGO can reuse multiple times within a given year.
    PapaBear said:
    I was under the impression that spare parts varied in each individual set.  Every set will have the same number of spare parts?

    I thought spare parts were included because they sort the distribution of parts into a set by weight, and they make sure to add an extra piece when the resolution of the scale's digits is too close to the weight of the part.
    Spare parts CAN vary, certainly, for the reason you mention — the weight check isn't always precise enough to tell if the exact number of those tiny pieces is right, so better if a spare piece is left out than one you actually need for the build. That said, with this many extra pieces, chances are that MOST of them will be the same from set to set.
    PapaBearKerremak0137
  • PapaBearPapaBear Member Posts: 628
    edited September 2017
    Okay, sounds like the system's accuracy is almost perfect, but it's precision is even better.  Thanks @Aanchir, I think I understand now.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,215
    Aanchir said:
    ...as it assumes that extra pieces are an arbitrary wasted expense LEGO goes to just because they can, rather than something that offsets its costs by preventing unnecessary customer service calls and replacement parts shipments...
    Bingo!  Those are the most commonly lost pieces.  The same rationale applies to the frequent inclusion of brick separators.  (Cuts down on complaints, and kids potentially chewing on pieces - and potential choking hazards.)
    beemo
  • myscrnnmmyscrnnm Member Posts: 25
    I think there are a lot of misconceptions in this thread regarding the distribution of extra pieces in LEGO sets. The extra pieces are not random, and should be the same between every example of a set. They always consist of the same types of elements (eg. 1x1 plates, Battle Droid arms, nozzles, et cetera. There should always be one of each extra piece per numbered bag, with the exception of pieces that come in more than one identical smaller bag within a numbered bag (typically the black Technic pins). There should be no variation between same sets, and if you're familiar with the types of elements that are included as extras, you should be able to pick out the extras once the bag is opened without even finishing building that stage.
    TyresOFlahertygmonkey76Bumblepantscaterham7SumoLegoBengh_Zerandougts
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU Member Posts: 644
    myscrnnm said:
    I think there are a lot of misconceptions in this thread regarding the distribution of extra pieces in LEGO sets. The extra pieces are not random, and should be the same between every example of a set. They always consist of the same types of elements (eg. 1x1 plates, Battle Droid arms, nozzles, et cetera. There should always be one of each extra piece per numbered bag, with the exception of pieces that come in more than one identical smaller bag within a numbered bag (typically the black Technic pins). There should be no variation between same sets, and if you're familiar with the types of elements that are included as extras, you should be able to pick out the extras once the bag is opened without even finishing building that stage.
    all true, but i think the variation some spoke of was not the intended spares sent, but the actual received. I've had a handful of sets (battle packs most noticeably) that did not have the same amount of spare parts, but they did both have enough of the required. so it was clear more were in Lego's intend to send list to cover the possibility of a part not being included the "spare" did it's job and filled in when one was missed in packaging.
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,703
    baublitz said:
    steveomcl said:
    Adzbadboy said:

    For those of you who are interested the set contains 153 extra pieces if you count the Brick Separator and the two addtional studs for Chewbacca’s Bowcaster, or 150 if you don’t count the parts inventory. Must be a new record for most extra pieces right?
    So it's a 7391 piece Millennium Falcon! TLG trolling us. 
    Looks like you might have an extra black technic piece, according to the bricklink parts list. Now you get to find out where it goes or just tell yourself it's a spare spare. :)

    https://imgur.com/a/DIgSs
    I’ve mentioned it before but I’ll say it again. Bag 1 had a whole bag dedicated to those black Technic pins, itnwould explain why two were included. Plus others have reported the same results.
  • TheFewTheFew Member Posts: 1,779
    I don't have a Falcon :-(
  • WallaceWallace Member Posts: 134
    TheFew said:
    I don't have a Falcon :-(
    Nor do I, I didn’t even want it when it was released 2 weeks ago. I couldn’t afford it. Then I saw it in the flesh last weekend at the Watford store and that was it,  I do want it. I sold some sets so I can now afford it. I can’t buy it though!!! :o(
    TheFew
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