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UCS falcon rumours (that turned out to be true!)

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  • PapaBearPapaBear East CoastMember Posts: 395
    baublitz said:
    I slightly wonder if this won't just rapidly reappear in stock within perhaps a matter of weeks.

    At first, it was all out warfare; it seemed like it would be months until this was back in regular stock.  Now, it seems as though a lot of peoples orders are changing quickly and a lot of stores seem to keep up their new stock so who knows...
    I'd imagine anyone who puts forth effort can get one before Christmas. Perhaps those lazy parents who think they can waltz into a LEGO store on Dec. 22nd and expect to get one will be out of luck and have to buy it on Ebay. :) 

    Parents buying a set worth over 200 for a kid is enough for me to get upset, but I'm sure they're out there! Buying for the family is different, however.
    Why would you get upset over that?  As long as they're not growing up to be assholes......

    There's so many more important things to be upset over.  There's 28 sets worth $200 or more right now.  The vast majority of which go to kids.
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  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    PapaBear said:
    baublitz said:
    I slightly wonder if this won't just rapidly reappear in stock within perhaps a matter of weeks.

    At first, it was all out warfare; it seemed like it would be months until this was back in regular stock.  Now, it seems as though a lot of peoples orders are changing quickly and a lot of stores seem to keep up their new stock so who knows...
    I'd imagine anyone who puts forth effort can get one before Christmas. Perhaps those lazy parents who think they can waltz into a LEGO store on Dec. 22nd and expect to get one will be out of luck and have to buy it on Ebay. :) 

    Parents buying a set worth over 200 for a kid is enough for me to get upset, but I'm sure they're out there! Buying for the family is different, however.
    Why would you get upset over that?  As long as they're not growing up to be assholes......

    There's so many more important things to be upset over.  There's 28 sets worth $200 or more right now.  The vast majority of which go to kids.
    It's usually the kids who are entitled, spoiled little snots that I see in the Lego store or facebook that get me going.... not to say all are like that and I know that, but it seems like the majority in my experience. It won't keep me up at night, I just get frustrated when little johnny is wailing and complaining in the store until mommy buys him the helicarrier. The most expensive set I ever had as a kid was a $110 Droid MTT and it was awesome because my brother and I worked for it.

    Anyways, you're right there are many other things to be upset about. The point of my last comment was about availability speculation more than the kids, which was off topic. :) 
  • C0chiseC0chise TennesseeMember Posts: 47
    Lego Store in Nashville said they didn't get any Falcons in this morning.  Odd that other stores have.
  • MachONEMachONE USMember Posts: 37
    edited September 2017
    Man updates to order status are a rush....just went to In Warehouse this morning.  On chat they told me the other day to not expect it till Oct 8. I was planning to head to the store Sunday, but probably won't bother now. Check your Backorder status.
    baublitz
  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    MachONE said:
    Man updates to order status are a rush....just went to In Warehouse this morning.  On chat they told me the other day to not expect it till Oct 8. I was planning to head to the store Sunday, but probably won't bother now. Check your Backorder status.
    Thank you sir! My friend is patiently awaiting his set.... I got mine on 9/16. 
  • BrickamoreBrickamore USAMember Posts: 56
    I've reverted to "Waiting for New Stock" from "Backordered" :(

    And, this was after I had emailed and was told October 8th...
  • MachONEMachONE USMember Posts: 37
    I've reverted to "Waiting for New Stock" from "Backordered" :(
    Wow...that right there is just a kick in the pants.
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,795
    baublitz said:
    PapaBear said:
    baublitz said:
    I slightly wonder if this won't just rapidly reappear in stock within perhaps a matter of weeks.

    At first, it was all out warfare; it seemed like it would be months until this was back in regular stock.  Now, it seems as though a lot of peoples orders are changing quickly and a lot of stores seem to keep up their new stock so who knows...
    I'd imagine anyone who puts forth effort can get one before Christmas. Perhaps those lazy parents who think they can waltz into a LEGO store on Dec. 22nd and expect to get one will be out of luck and have to buy it on Ebay. :) 

    Parents buying a set worth over 200 for a kid is enough for me to get upset, but I'm sure they're out there! Buying for the family is different, however.
    Why would you get upset over that?  As long as they're not growing up to be assholes......

    There's so many more important things to be upset over.  There's 28 sets worth $200 or more right now.  The vast majority of which go to kids.
    It's usually the kids who are entitled, spoiled little snots that I see in the Lego store or facebook that get me going.... not to say all are like that and I know that, but it seems like the majority in my experience. It won't keep me up at night, I just get frustrated when little johnny is wailing and complaining in the store until mommy buys him the helicarrier. The most expensive set I ever had as a kid was a $110 Droid MTT and it was awesome because my brother and I worked for it.
    I guess I've been lucky enough not to witness any of that kind of behavior in LEGO stores. That said, I don't think parents buying kids expensive toys is a particularly new or worrying phenomenon — after all, parents have been buying their kids video game consoles for decades, and those have pretty much always been expensive (usually not UCS Millennium Falcon expensive, but at least UCS Snowspeeder expensive).
  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    I don't care how often it's debated in this thread and others, there is no good argument anyone can make that will convince me there is a good reason to have stickers in a set of this magnitude and grandeur.  For those that mention cost, I'd counter I'd rather have no stickers in the set and skip the printing.  I'd rather that than the cheap illusion created by the hallway stickers anyway.  And don't even get me started again on the pointlessness of the laser blast / bullet damage sticker.  How many pieces were added to this set over and above #10179 for extra detail, and somehow we need a bullshit tacky sticker to go along with it?

    Putting stickers on this set is like painting the Mona Lisa and then drawing a Hitler mustache on it with a sharpee. 

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  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    edited September 2017
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  • jedijason1138jedijason1138 Member Posts: 146
    MachONE said:
    Man updates to order status are a rush....just went to In Warehouse this morning.  On chat they told me the other day to not expect it till Oct 8. I was planning to head to the store Sunday, but probably won't bother now. Check your Backorder status.
    Same here! Oh, I'm getting hyped up about this. I've been putting together older Lego sets, looking for new, small sets to tide me over till this shows up. I've even put some jigsaw puzzles together. Lego, and assembling things, is how I relax.
    oldtodd33catwrangler
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,795
    I don't care how often it's debated in this thread and others, there is no good argument anyone can make that will convince me there is a good reason to have stickers in a set of this magnitude and grandeur.  For those that mention cost, I'd counter I'd rather have no stickers in the set and skip the printing.  I'd rather that than the cheap illusion created by the hallway stickers anyway.  And don't even get me started again on the pointlessness of the laser blast / bullet damage sticker.  How many pieces were added to this set over and above #10179 for extra detail, and somehow we need a bullshit tacky sticker to go along with it?

    Putting stickers on this set is like painting the Mona Lisa and then drawing a Hitler mustache on it with a sharpee. 
    If you'd rather have no pattern at all than stickers, then maybe… just don't put the stickers on? Suddenly, wow! Look at that! It's like the designers created a special version of the set just for you! Meanwhile, people who actually like stickers (or at the very least, are willing to tolerate them in exchange for the greater detail they add) have an option suited to their tastes as well. And what's more, both options come in the same box for a negligible price hike over what the stickerless option alone might have cost.

    I can see how even including the OPTION of stickers might be perceived as an insult or a quality defect to someone who thinks their tastes are the only ones that should be catered to. But LEGO is easily doing the rest of the world a favor by keeping self-righteous snobs like that disappointed.
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  • Ppagan47Ppagan47 PAMember Posts: 12
    Backordered to.....In Warehouse!!!!
    C0chisemonkeyhanger
  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    edited September 2017
    Aanchir said:
    I don't care how often it's debated in this thread and others, there is no good argument anyone can make that will convince me there is a good reason to have stickers in a set of this magnitude and grandeur.  For those that mention cost, I'd counter I'd rather have no stickers in the set and skip the printing.  I'd rather that than the cheap illusion created by the hallway stickers anyway.  And don't even get me started again on the pointlessness of the laser blast / bullet damage sticker.  How many pieces were added to this set over and above #10179 for extra detail, and somehow we need a bullshit tacky sticker to go along with it?

    Putting stickers on this set is like painting the Mona Lisa and then drawing a Hitler mustache on it with a sharpee. 
    If you'd rather have no pattern at all than stickers, then maybe… just don't put the stickers on? Suddenly, wow! Look at that! It's like the designers created a special version of the set just for you! Meanwhile, people who actually like stickers (or at the very least, are willing to tolerate them in exchange for the greater detail they add) have an option suited to their tastes as well. And what's more, both options come in the same box for a negligible price hike over what the stickerless option alone might have cost.

    I can see how even including the OPTION of stickers might be perceived as an insult or a quality defect to someone who thinks their tastes are the only ones that should be catered to. But LEGO is easily doing the rest of the world a favor by keeping self-righteous snobs like that disappointed.
    Good points, and yes a lot of us AFOL are snobs, but the point is LEGO has made many printed pieces on premium sets. This is the preferred option in terms of quality and looks. Do you remember the feeling of finding a printed piece.... so easy.... so perfectly aligned.... makes you wish there were no stickers on any sets, but you understand when there are because you're only working on a $100 set and they need to keep prices down. 

    I'm in full agreement with montsblitz on this one. An unprecedented, unrivaled, prestigious, ULTIMATE Collector's edition, pride and joy flagship of everything LEGO has to offer..... and then.... stickers!? It's just a strange (and yes, for some, a slap in the face) choice. At least tell me you would prefer printed pieces, even if you disagree with the other points, yes?  

    Edit: I don't see where calling this preference self-righteous comes in.... it's something that LEGO has done many times before, why not hold them to it on the nicest of sets?
    monstblitzPapaBear
  • meandonlymemeandonlyme Member Posts: 16
    One step closer to getting it.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,655
    Check your email - Just got a VIP extension notice that they will keep it VIP only for awhile and are creating a waitlist both online and in-store!
    baublitz
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,655

    Hello LEGO® Star Wars™ Fan,
    As you may know, the new LEGO® Star Wars™ Millennium Falcon (75192), our largest LEGO set ever, went on sale exclusively to VIP Members on September 14. We are very excited that we received such a positive response from fans like yourself, it exceeded all of our expectations! Unfortunately, that also means the first batch has already sold out.

    The good news is we are making more as quickly as possible and expect to have very limited quantities available for the remainder of 2017. We have extended the VIP-only access period, which means the new inventory will remain exclusive to VIPs at least through November.

    To make your wait a little easier, you can now sign up to receive back-in-stock notifications. Simply confirm your interest below and we’ll email you when a new batch of the Millennium Falcon (75192) is available on shop.LEGO.com 

    If you'd rather make your purchase at your favorite LEGO Brand Retail store, please call or visit your local store starting Friday 9/29 and ask a Brick Specialist to add you to the wait list.
    baublitzRainstorm26waynlewisLittleLoriKlintan
  • gratefulnatgratefulnat SwitzerlandMember Posts: 265
    Had a nice huge box waiting for me when I arrived back from work today.
    Now I just need to finish washing/sorting/packing the rest of tower bridge before I can open this piece of junk!

    History:
    Order placed 14 September, 30 mins after going live: Not in Warehouse
    15 Sept: Backordered
    21 Sept: in Warehouse
    25 Sept: Shipped
    27 Sept: VIP points credited
    28 Sept: Feeling very happy

    Not once did I call customer service, but I sure thought about it many times a day.
    Now will patiently wait for the special VIP card.

    I hope all the rest of you still waiting will be rewarded soon!!!
    bandit778baublitzTyresOFlahertySwitchfoot55FollowsCloselyLegoboyKlintan
  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    Check your email - Just got a VIP extension notice that they will keep it VIP only for awhile and are creating a waitlist both online and in-store!
    Thanks man! Could you possibly share the link that your email forwards you to for those who didn't receive it? Great info, thank you for sharing. :)
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,795
    baublitz said:
    Aanchir said:
    I don't care how often it's debated in this thread and others, there is no good argument anyone can make that will convince me there is a good reason to have stickers in a set of this magnitude and grandeur.  For those that mention cost, I'd counter I'd rather have no stickers in the set and skip the printing.  I'd rather that than the cheap illusion created by the hallway stickers anyway.  And don't even get me started again on the pointlessness of the laser blast / bullet damage sticker.  How many pieces were added to this set over and above #10179 for extra detail, and somehow we need a bullshit tacky sticker to go along with it?

    Putting stickers on this set is like painting the Mona Lisa and then drawing a Hitler mustache on it with a sharpee. 
    If you'd rather have no pattern at all than stickers, then maybe… just don't put the stickers on? Suddenly, wow! Look at that! It's like the designers created a special version of the set just for you! Meanwhile, people who actually like stickers (or at the very least, are willing to tolerate them in exchange for the greater detail they add) have an option suited to their tastes as well. And what's more, both options come in the same box for a negligible price hike over what the stickerless option alone might have cost.

    I can see how even including the OPTION of stickers might be perceived as an insult or a quality defect to someone who thinks their tastes are the only ones that should be catered to. But LEGO is easily doing the rest of the world a favor by keeping self-righteous snobs like that disappointed.
    Good points, and yes a lot of us AFOL are snobs, but the point is LEGO has made many printed pieces on premium sets. This is the preferred option in terms of quality and looks. Do you remember the feeling of finding a printed piece.... so easy.... so perfectly aligned.... makes you wish there were no stickers on any sets, but you understand when there are because you're only working on a $100 set and they need to keep prices down. 

    I'm in full agreement with montsblitz on this one. An unprecedented, unrivaled, prestigious, ULTIMATE Collector's edition, pride and joy flagship of everything LEGO has to offer..... and then.... stickers!? It's just a strange (and yes, for some, a slap in the face) choice. At least tell me you would prefer printed pieces, even if you disagree with the other points, yes?
    You're talking to the wrong person because I actually really enjoy stickers! When I was a kid my dad would usually apply stickers for me… which is good, because stickers in sets were often way worse back then, with a lot of them that extended across multiple pieces and/or lacked the now common 1mm margin between the sticker and the edge of the piece. But for the past dozen years or so, taking a break from regular snap-together building to carefully apply a sticker has become an extremely satisfying part of my typical building process. I don't necessarily mind printed parts, but attaching a printed piece is basically the same as attaching any other piece, while applying stickers adds an additional special step to the experience.

    I definitely have some pet peeves with certain types of stickers… for instance, I already established that I hate STAMPs, which are fortunately now fleetingly rare. Stickers that go on parts like a 1x1 or 2x2 round brick are also frustrating since they often don't like to stay put after you've applied them. And the tail stickers of #70816 were a bit of a pain to apply since they were cut to the shape of the pattern rather than the shape of the piece — I understand this was probably a gift to Neo Classic Space builders so they could use the stickers on any part of their choosing, but for the sake of assembling the set it meant there were no guidelines to help line the stickers up at the same height and the same angle on all four pieces. But a set like #70615 or #10257 with thirty or so precision-cut stickers to line up? That right there is my jam.

    Side note related to stickers, I would really love if LEGO would create more hologram stickers like this Exploriens sticker! Those were the coolest! Not every day you see a little 3D minifigure inside the surface of a piece!
    baublitz
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,655
    baublitz said:
    Check your email - Just got a VIP extension notice that they will keep it VIP only for awhile and are creating a waitlist both online and in-store!
    Thanks man! Could you possibly share the link that your email forwards you to for those who didn't receive it? Great info, thank you for sharing. :)
    The link is attached to your VIP account so mine won't help you.
    baublitzMuftak1
  • Mr_CrossMr_Cross East Anglia (UK)Member Posts: 960
    @monkeyhanger & @Dfchang813 ;you make fair points with respect to adding no more than $25 extra for more printed parts.

    Dfchang813, I over-exaggerated by quoting your figure of $25 and weakened my argument as a result. I also apologise for calling it arbitrary, I was unaware you were referring to a cost being quoted by a third party service.

    I should have restricted my argument to stickers versus printing, which I still believe is not an either/or choice. I think the profit margin on this set for a wide range of reasons isn't quite what it appears to be if you simply use the price to parts ratio. It's huge, transportation costs from a quantity you can fit in a truck are probably much higher. The number that can be produced in the factory in each production run purely from a warehouse space has to also be a factor.

    Any increase in cost (however minimal) could have affected the sales of the set, and even if you allow for under-supplying to create demand. The massive popularity of the set (on the available evidence) seemed to surprise Lego.
    Prior to release, I honestly think they were nervous about it, tentative even.
    I don't think I would have contemplated spending this amount of money on Lego before this set was released, and if asked in a survey, would have probably stated a figure well below this rrp as my maximum ever spend.
    So, I think at the announcement, another $25 or equivalent in other currency might have made all the difference to me. Would I have been alone in that?
    No one knew what demand would be but it seems clear that there has been an underestimation of peoples' appetite to spend this sort of money (my own included). So perhaps you are right and what follows is moot.

    Monkeyhanger, you point out that the price to parts ratio isn't that great and you are right, in those terms you can get a lot better value from your money, even at full retail prices, there is a great little thread on eurobricks about just that.

    Let's assume for the moment that LEGO aren't out to rip us all off. They aren't all sniggering and rolling about in our money (which we give freely, and in large amounts for their products). They do want to design and manufacture good products that represent value for money for their customers.
    Let's furthermore assume that $799.99 is a price that allows Lego to make a fair profit margin.

    I did some rough maths.
    It will cost between 2¢ and 10¢ to injection mould each piece, it's probably an underestimate but let's start with 3¢ per piece as there are only a couple of larger pieces here.
    Maybe printing each extra piece would only cost 6¢ more (each pad printing step will cost you approx 2¢ a piece, let's average three different colour steps per piece). The set up costs should be relatively small, or close to negligible in the numbers we are talking.
    Each extra printed piece in the set therefore costs you 9¢.
    This probably doesn't include transportation or any of the logistics involved with moving things between various factories - even if they're on the same site, so we'll add 0.5¢ per piece for all these extra hassles (possibly a conservative estimate).
    In quality control you'll possibly throw away as much as 1% of the pad printed pieces from misalignment or from simply misprinting. I'm fairly certain I've forgotten other things that will cost you money, but for the purposes of this let's round it up and say each piece now costs 10¢ to produce.
    There are thirteen pieces more, so, $1.30, and, as suspected, not a lot more to spend at the manufacturing stage.
    And all we are now doing is substituting printed parts for plain, so there should be no more costs incurred logistically.
    If you hold with a general rule of thumb that wholesale cost is roughly half the retail, it's only another $2.60! So, you're both right! It's a massive scam, where are my printed pieces?

    Even if you look at it from a pure profit point of view. $799.99 will have at the very, very minimum, a 10% profit margin, otherwise, what's the point? In fact I'd be very surprised if $200 wasn't closer to the profit on this, so $2.60 less is a drop in the ocean.

    I hate to admit it, but looks like I'm wrong, adding these 13 parts shouldn't have had much of an impact on the overall rrp.
    What doesn't add up in my mind though, is that stickers are undeniably cheaper, I know this from 12 years working as a toy designer. We would use stickers to add value and I've been assuming that LEGO were doing the same.
    So, why include them unless they really are added value? If they could be printed, why haven't they been?

    The only defense I have left is that price points are usually set in the project planning stage. "This product needs to retail for this price." So, the designers do their job, get to the refining the product stage and it looks like they're a little bit under budget, maybe as much as a dollar! Do they spend the extra $1.00 on stickers, or do they leave them out altogether? As a designer, I'd spend some of that extra money on stickers, make the product a little bit nicer for those that don't mind the odd sticker. So it wouldn't be a case of printing or stickers, it would still be stickers or nothing.

    monstblitz said:
    Putting stickers on this set is like painting the Mona Lisa and then drawing a Hitler mustache on it with a sharpee. 
    It's not though is it. It's more like putting go faster stripes on a BMX. Ultimately it makes little overall difference to the product, and it's a subjective matter of opinion if it looks better or not.
  • MachONEMachONE USMember Posts: 37
    Just got my tracking number. 28 plus pounds of goodness on the way. Now....where's that Fed Ex truck?
    Ppagan47
  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    Aanchir said:
    baublitz said:
    Aanchir said:
    I don't care how often it's debated in this thread and others, there is no good argument anyone can make that will convince me there is a good reason to have stickers in a set of this magnitude and grandeur.  For those that mention cost, I'd counter I'd rather have no stickers in the set and skip the printing.  I'd rather that than the cheap illusion created by the hallway stickers anyway.  And don't even get me started again on the pointlessness of the laser blast / bullet damage sticker.  How many pieces were added to this set over and above #10179 for extra detail, and somehow we need a bullshit tacky sticker to go along with it?

    Putting stickers on this set is like painting the Mona Lisa and then drawing a Hitler mustache on it with a sharpee. 
    If you'd rather have no pattern at all than stickers, then maybe… just don't put the stickers on? Suddenly, wow! Look at that! It's like the designers created a special version of the set just for you! Meanwhile, people who actually like stickers (or at the very least, are willing to tolerate them in exchange for the greater detail they add) have an option suited to their tastes as well. And what's more, both options come in the same box for a negligible price hike over what the stickerless option alone might have cost.

    I can see how even including the OPTION of stickers might be perceived as an insult or a quality defect to someone who thinks their tastes are the only ones that should be catered to. But LEGO is easily doing the rest of the world a favor by keeping self-righteous snobs like that disappointed.
    Good points, and yes a lot of us AFOL are snobs, but the point is LEGO has made many printed pieces on premium sets. This is the preferred option in terms of quality and looks. Do you remember the feeling of finding a printed piece.... so easy.... so perfectly aligned.... makes you wish there were no stickers on any sets, but you understand when there are because you're only working on a $100 set and they need to keep prices down. 

    I'm in full agreement with montsblitz on this one. An unprecedented, unrivaled, prestigious, ULTIMATE Collector's edition, pride and joy flagship of everything LEGO has to offer..... and then.... stickers!? It's just a strange (and yes, for some, a slap in the face) choice. At least tell me you would prefer printed pieces, even if you disagree with the other points, yes?
    You're talking to the wrong person because I actually really enjoy stickers! When I was a kid my dad would usually apply stickers for me… which is good, because stickers in sets were often way worse back then, with a lot of them that extended across multiple pieces and/or lacked the now common 1mm margin between the sticker and the edge of the piece. But for the past dozen years or so, taking a break from regular snap-together building to carefully apply a sticker has become an extremely satisfying part of my typical building process. I don't necessarily mind printed parts, but attaching a printed piece is basically the same as attaching any other piece, while applying stickers adds an additional special step to the experience.

    I definitely have some pet peeves with certain types of stickers… for instance, I already established that I hate STAMPs, which are fortunately now fleetingly rare. Stickers that go on parts like a 1x1 or 2x2 round brick are also frustrating since they often don't like to stay put after you've applied them. And the tail stickers of #70816 were a bit of a pain to apply since they were cut to the shape of the pattern rather than the shape of the piece — I understand this was probably a gift to Neo Classic Space builders so they could use the stickers on any part of their choosing, but for the sake of assembling the set it meant there were no guidelines to help line the stickers up at the same height and the same angle on all four pieces. But a set like #70615 or #10257 with thirty or so precision-cut stickers to line up? That right there is my jam.

    Side note related to stickers, I would really love if LEGO would create more hologram stickers like this Exploriens sticker! Those were the coolest! Not every day you see a little 3D minifigure inside the surface of a piece!
    Very good points, kind sir! I can at least appreciate your enjoyment of the stickers a tad more now. :) There IS something satisfying about getting them on there just right.... and it does break up the monotony of clicking bricks together. That's cool that your dad got to share in the process like that, always nice to include family on a build. Never seen the holo piece before, very cool!!

    People will always agree to disagree on this one, but I appreciate knowing where you come from. I did enjoy the ones on say.... similar to 9498 where you have to perfectly align the sticker around an angular piece

    When it comes to this 75192 Falcon though, a sticker on large flat pieces among the other things like battle scars just feels.... cheap.... in comparison to the grandeur of the rest of the set. Its packaging, manual, design, graphics, it's all so beautiful and the stickers leave me feeling underwhelmed. I probably won't apply them, rather I may sell them for a hefty price on BL. Either way, I'm sure we will all LOVE the set. Do you have one yet?
  • jedijason1138jedijason1138 Member Posts: 146
    Tracking numbers are so awesome when you've been waiting a while.
    baublitz
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,783
    edited September 2017
    An intentional moulding defect or cigarette burn on the appropriate piece would probably be a better way to represent the bullet hole/scarring, :)

    If TLG don't make a 40% margin on a set that is supplied directly by them at a similar price:piece ratio to commonly available retail sets, on a mass of commonly available pieces then i'd be amazed. If supermarkets, Smyths, TRU, Amazon et al can afford to put the common sets on regular 20-30% discount, and they themselves look to sell at a reasonable profit even during a 30% off sale, then id assume a £100 RRP/1100 piece set has come from TLG at a cost of no more than £40, and that TLG at least doubled their money - so we're talking £0.02/piece cost.

    Development costs can't be huge - this isn't a "from scratch" design,  same framework as the last one with similar "skin" builds that have more greebling.

    Fancy packaging is obviously more expensive than the standard stuff - Could the fancy instructions and box of the MF cost TLG more than £2 a unit at the volumes they're talking? Doubtful. Shipping is going to be inflated for a big 15Kg lump, but if I could post one fully insured for about £35, i'm sure TLG could do one for less than £10 and self-insure, Cost of the pieces at 2p per piece = £150. Add in the additional customer services and warehousing costs of single unit despatch rather than bulk despatch to an external retailer of maybe a generous £20 per unit, and cost to TLG is well under £200 a unit.

    As far as stickers go - the clear, soft rubberised stickers as seen on the old Death Star #10188 seem far more durable than the white ones (which go brittle over time).
    baublitz
  • C0chiseC0chise TennesseeMember Posts: 47
    In warehouse to shipped in one day! 
    monkeyhanger
  • kbwkbw NCMember Posts: 390
    Cool hearing all these orders are going out. Glad you all are getting them soon
    baublitz
  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    Great points from you guys. We could also think about the costs associated with the designers/engineers involved in making these changes. That amounts to several days' worth of high-dollar salaries putting time into the process to ensure LEGO quality. Someday soon we'll all just be drooling over these falcons as we get up at night to hit the head.
  • baublitzbaublitz KansasMember Posts: 53
    C0chise said:
    In warehouse to shipped in one day! 
    This is the exact route mine took on 9/14, which was also a Thursday! My friend's just shipped, he is stoked!!!!!!!!
  • monstblitzmonstblitz Alexandria, VAMember Posts: 591
    Aanchir said:
    I don't care how often it's debated in this thread and others, there is no good argument anyone can make that will convince me there is a good reason to have stickers in a set of this magnitude and grandeur.  For those that mention cost, I'd counter I'd rather have no stickers in the set and skip the printing.  I'd rather that than the cheap illusion created by the hallway stickers anyway.  And don't even get me started again on the pointlessness of the laser blast / bullet damage sticker.  How many pieces were added to this set over and above #10179 for extra detail, and somehow we need a bullshit tacky sticker to go along with it?

    Putting stickers on this set is like painting the Mona Lisa and then drawing a Hitler mustache on it with a sharpee. 
    If you'd rather have no pattern at all than stickers, then maybe… just don't put the stickers on? Suddenly, wow! Look at that! It's like the designers created a special version of the set just for you! Meanwhile, people who actually like stickers (or at the very least, are willing to tolerate them in exchange for the greater detail they add) have an option suited to their tastes as well. And what's more, both options come in the same box for a negligible price hike over what the stickerless option alone might have cost.

    I can see how even including the OPTION of stickers might be perceived as an insult or a quality defect to someone who thinks their tastes are the only ones that should be catered to. But LEGO is easily doing the rest of the world a favor by keeping self-righteous snobs like that disappointed.
    I'll ignore the insult and move right onto the flaw in your argument which is assuming that your opinion on stickers or as you put it, "The rest of the world" is the majority opinion in this discussion.  Just based on discussions found on this forum I think we know that people who love and appreciate stickers on their Lego are definitely NOT the majority.

    That said, I'll concede stickers have their place in certain sets, and can add detail to cheaper sets without increasing cost. 

    This set has no place in that category.  It's the largest and most expensive Lego set ever designed.  And it was designed primarily for AFOLs, the vast majority of whom despise stickers.  So, yes, designing this set with any stickers is a bit of an insult to fans shelling out $800 + for this set.  I'd rather they not drop a sticker sheet turd in the box to keep the minority - those who pretend to like stickers - happy.  But I'm glad you're happy with your stickers that will degrade over time on your $800 collectible. 
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 1,904
    Concerning the stickers, I do wonder if it's got nothing to do with cost at all but more because it gives the purchaser a choice.
    Lego itself is primarily sold as a building toy that can be dismantled and built into something else, and while the thought of lobbing 7500 parts from a set like this into a parts bin to build a house or something similar may be alien to a group of set collectors, the fact of the matter is that is what it's designed for and having specialised printed pieces in every set would limit the usage of those parts for the thousands of MOC builders that use set pieces like that.
    datsunrobbieTkatt
  • Ppagan47Ppagan47 PAMember Posts: 12
    It's shipped!! I have a tracking number!! WOO HOO!!! I'm gonna start building once I get it...don't get cocky kid (with wife, 2 kids, f/t job, who knows when I'll start but I'll have it!!!!)
  • JaimitoJaimito NYCMember Posts: 18
    Got a shipping notice today. Ordered on Sept 14 online during the madness.  Was expecting closer to Xmas. Nice surprise. 
    baublitz
  • BacchusBacchus NetherlandsMember Posts: 13

    Hello LEGO® Star Wars™ Fan,
    As you may know, the new LEGO® Star Wars™ Millennium Falcon (75192), our largest LEGO set ever, went on sale exclusively to VIP Members on September 14. We are very excited that we received such a positive response from fans like yourself, it exceeded all of our expectations! Unfortunately, that also means the first batch has already sold out.

    The good news is we are making more as quickly as possible and expect to have very limited quantities available for the remainder of 2017. We have extended the VIP-only access period, which means the new inventory will remain exclusive to VIPs at least through November.

    To make your wait a little easier, you can now sign up to receive back-in-stock notifications. Simply confirm your interest below and we’ll email you when a new batch of the Millennium Falcon (75192) is available on shop.LEGO.com 

    If you'd rather make your purchase at your favorite LEGO Brand Retail store, please call or visit your local store starting Friday 9/29 and ask a Brick Specialist to add you to the wait list.
    I've recieved the same email with the exclusion of the bolded part so I guess it'll be available to non-VIPs here in europe.

    However the order limit here is still at 3 even though they admit in the email availability will be limited throughout 2017... Can't wrap my head around that.

    If LEGO really cares about their fans as they claim then simply set the limit at 1 to make it harder for the scalpers to build up stock and give real fans a better chance at obtaining this at RRP.
    omniumbaublitzBumblepantsOldmanChudleyMuftak1catwrangler
  • waynlewiswaynlewis USAMember Posts: 85
    I hope they make The Lego House 21037 available on [email protected] sometime soon.
  • Dfchang813Dfchang813 United StatesMember Posts: 60
    Mine shipped out today, almost 3 weeks earlier than the date I was given. If I had known wouldn't have almost killed myself driving to Lego store to get one in person ...  seems like they are in process of mobilizing enough units to fulfill all backorders generated on the 14th. My feeling is they may be tapped out for the rest of the year after this and will be shipping in small batches as the factory churns them out.  I see this being a pretty in demand item for holiday season and am doubtful there will be a sudden influx of units in the last 3 months of the year ... 
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,437
    bandit778 said:
    Concerning the stickers, I do wonder if it's got nothing to do with cost at all but more because it gives the purchaser a choice.
    Lego itself is primarily sold as a building toy that can be dismantled and built into something else, and while the thought of lobbing 7500 parts from a set like this into a parts bin to build a house or something similar may be alien to a group of set collectors, the fact of the matter is that is what it's designed for and having specialised printed pieces in every set would limit the usage of those parts for the thousands of MOC builders that use set pieces like that.
    Having printed parts means LEGO would need to produce spares of those parts and store them. Every unique element they produce requires storage space, and that is an expense throughout the production of the set and beyond. LEGO can print and store an extra 10,000 sticker sheets at minimal expense compared to printing and storing 120,000 printed parts (10K x 12 stickers). Those are some rather unique looking stickers. If they were printed parts it appears the entire expense would have to be absorbed by #75192, as those parts would not get used in other sets.

    Another factor could be the visibility of the parts with stickers. Other than the big ID plate, it looks like all the stickers will be on the interior of the Falcon. Is anybody planning on displaying it with the interior visible? Why add the extra expense of printed parts that most people will never see?
    Tkattstluxcatwranglerbrickventures
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,404


    Another factor could be the visibility of the parts with stickers. Other than the big ID plate, it looks like all the stickers will be on the interior of the Falcon. Is anybody planning on displaying it with the interior visible? Why add the extra expense of printed parts that most people will never see?


    That's the only valid argument I have seen yet against printed pieces. 
    baublitz
  • typotypo Member Posts: 185
    So, how do I get in-stock email notifications?
  • Wicket_WWicket_W Forest moon of EndorMember Posts: 17
    I know I am just another example of LEGO shipping early, but after getting an October 19th expected shipping day a few days ago, I am truly surprised that my MF shipped today and FedEx already has it.
    Klintan
  • Brikkyy13Brikkyy13 AustraliaMember Posts: 17
    Congratulations to everyone who's backorder has shipped. Meanwhile mine has been sitting on "processing - shipping information approved by Australia Post" since the 15th. Called them to ask what the hell was going on and they couldn't give me an answer :(
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 644
    just got news mine shipped today, it went back ordered 2 days ago. ( I did call and apply my expedited shipping code at that same time, i wonder if i had called that earlier if it would have improved the time table more? don't know just happy to see it move already.
  • PapaBearPapaBear East CoastMember Posts: 395
    Mine went from "waiting for new stock" to "backorder" a few days ago and got confirmation today that it has finally shipped.  Hooray!!!!
  • Wicket_WWicket_W Forest moon of EndorMember Posts: 17
    Doesn't seem like long before the guys on the thread who didn't get one Sep. 14 will have their hands on one. I'm starting to feel like Lego really pulled through on this one. But it's also to early to tell.
  • MD2JDMD2JD Chicago, ILMember Posts: 2
    Just here to vent. Got caught in the Colossal Website Crash of September 14, managed to order mine about half an hour after it went live, was listed as "waiting for new stock" until earlier this week when, like everyone else, my order went to "backordered."

    Then today, when everyone here is posting how their "backordered" turned into "shipped," mine went back to "waiting for new stock" then back to "backordered" then back to "waiting for new stock" then finally back to "backordered."

    I have a funny feeling there's someone in the [email protected] offices just switching my status back and forth for the heck of it.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,740
    Aanchir said:
    Holy crap, did a sticker sheet kill your parents or something?
    Did you say 'Martha'?
    Onebricktoomanygmonkey76dmcc0monstblitzcatwranglerCM4S
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