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New Channel 4 Lego TV show "Lego Masters"

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  • mnbvcmnbvc Member Posts: 136
    I don't think Jessica is "cheating" - it's evident from the models they've shown of her work outside of the programme that she's a very skilful MOCer who works in a set way.  Some people are happy to fly by the seat of their pants, whilst others like to plan every brick to the last detail.

    If anything, I think it exposes the flaw of these types of shows - it's like GBBO, where contestants are free to make as many versions of their cakes at home as they wish (or as time and/or money permits).  Some don't have the time/resources to bake (m)any, whilst others spend all week doing it.  I don't think there's any time limit given outside of the show, so if Jessica wants to spend all week making prototypes and bringing in lists, then I'm fairly sure she's not breaking any rules.

    I do think the very different styles do create a bit of a clash when it comes to judging the work, though - the teams are so disparate in style, it's hard to compare them.
    stluxSalamalexsid3windrcatwranglersnowhitieDaragh
  • DaraghDaragh IrelandMember Posts: 363
    I was amazed too when I saw what Guy and Abraham produced, right up to the very end we did not see much planning or building going on, they just seemed to be having great fun. Fair play to them. 

    The Cambridge engineers did much better this week but were harshly criticised for their colour choice, but then I love Steampunk and it reminded me of Banksy's Dismaland. 

    Jessica and Faolin are not cheating, if they were I am sure the producers would have resolved that immediately. Several times it has been mentioned that for some tasks the participants have advance notice of the challenge and or time to prepare, how contestants do that is up to them within the rules that apply. Jessica has mentioned several times how she likes to work in a planned and organised fashion and is trying to do that despite the fairly chaotic situation they're presented with in studio, totally outside her comfort zone. In the latest episode we see a shot of a list she has prepared, but just because we did not see anything similar from other teams does not mean they have not done as much or more preparation. I am sure that each participant has their own way of working and preparing.

    Episode two was a 3 hour and 12 hour challenge condensed to about 50 minutes and much less when you take out the presenter chat and external footage etc., so it is impossible to get a good view of how each of the teams really works, as mentioned, look what Guy and Abraham managed to build and it was never shown until the very end. 

    Agreed it must be hard to judge, you would have to ignore the ages and abilities and just concentrate on how well the team achieved the specifics of the challenge(s). 

    Roll on episode 3


    stluxSalamalexbandit778
  • HanzoHanzo VAMember Posts: 607
    Soooooo I am guessing there's no way to see this in the US?  
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,240
    edited September 2017
    @Hanzo Firing up a VPN, connecting to a UK node, and registering a C4 account using a random UK postal code will have you watching the program in about 5 minutes :)

    Alternatively someone also seems to have posted them to YouTube.
    Hanzo
  • snowhitiesnowhitie BelgiumMember Posts: 2,878
    Yup @Hanzo you can find on Youtube, as long as C4 doesn't remove them:

    Episode 1

    Episode 2

    If you use Filmon app on your laptop you can watcht it in realtime if it's on tomorrow night, but not sure how feasible that is wherever you are.

    Watched the 1st episode on my own, the second with my husband. I think it's pretty fun and loved that chair from the 1st episode. The judging must be really though and I do think Melvin is a bit over the top. But it does seem to 'naturalise' the playing with LEgo a bit more and  my mother-in-law is loving it :)

    Hanzoomnium77ncaachamps
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation UKMember Posts: 5,533
    edited September 2017
    Another great episode tonight. Highs and lows... Amazing work from Nate & Steve again, still my favourites. Loved the lemur in particular. Sad for Guy and Abraham to go, such wonderful lads, but I think it was ultimately the right decision on the basis of the end product alone - the decision to compare kids to adults was always going to favour the adults in the end, in my opinion. 

    I never really warmed to Jessica I'm afraid, though having met many AFOLs like her in real life, I'm sure she's a lovely person but doesn't necessarily come across well on the TV. Maybe nervous or because her style of building is not suited to spontaneous challenges? I think she and her son also missed the point a bit on some of the planned builds, building what they were comfortable with rather than thinking of the brief and the impression the models will make. For instance the fairground models didn't have much if an impact, the nature walk models were a bit random - a different take, of course, but not very realistic or engaging, which I thought was the point?

    Going forward, if there's a second series, which I sincerely hope there is, I think they need to consider whether it really is fair to compare a team of two children with two adults or an adult/child combo. Guy and Abraham were brilliantly imaginative but were always going to be at a disadvantage with regard to planning, time management and engineering more complex builds. Maybe there should be a separate kids Masters programme? 
    Or as somebody suggested on Twitter, don't have it as a knockout competition but as more of a Lego league where points are accumulated over the series? The series also needs to be longer, four episodes isn't enough!! 

    omniumsnowhitiestluxcatwranglersid3windr
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,486
    ^ I wonder if this series was a 'test the water' to see how it does, and if it does well, go for a longer series next time?
    omniumandhecatwrangler
  • BooTheMightyHamsterBooTheMightyHamster Northern edge of London, just before the dragons...Member Posts: 1,296
    Enjoyed tonight's programme more than the previous couple.  I think they've reined Melvin in a bit which is a good thing, and there wasn't quite so much of Matthew.  I know a lot of people like him, but he really grates with me.  I'm sure he's a very nice chap, but he's just a bit too prissy for me.

    I like the combination of celebrity fans (though I do wonder whether Bill Bailey and Richard Osman have picked up a Lego brick in the last 20 years, or whether it was simply a call from their agent 'Got a nice little earner here!') and specialist judges.  I'd not come across Steve the animal guy before - I thought Nathan Sawaya had the 'big scale models' thing sewn up.

    Very pleased that Nate & Steve and James & Jamil are through - for me they're head and shoulders above the competition.  Jessica and her son had to go.  She was becoming increasingly annoying and I suspect that if Faolan had been allowed a bit more free rein, or had competed with a friend rather than his domineering mother, then he may have a) got further, and b) enjoyed himself a bit more.  Most of the time he looked fed up.

    Tough call between Guy & Abraham and Nicolas and Kobe.  The two youngsters seemed to spend more time mucking about than taking it seriously, but then again they're two 9 year olds presented with a ton of Lego - who can blame them?  The other two have come across (and it may be the way the programme was edited) that it was all about what Nicolas wanted to do, and Kobe was just the hired help.  I would probably have let them go and kept the boys, simply because they both contribute equally.

    Completely agree with @LostInTranslation - this could definitely do with both a longer series (8 teams, just one goes each week), and a separate version for under 18s.

    As a 'pilot' series though, I think the production company has done a pretty good job.

    It does amuse me, however, when they keep labouring the 'one million bricks' thing, and I think 'I wonder how many Brickset members have 1m+ bricks in their own collection?'
    omniumsnowhitiestluxandhebandit778
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,486
    ^well I'm fairly certain I have about a quarter of a million, maybe pushing towards a third.

    Of course, I never quite have enough...
    OrmskirkBricks
  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 900
    My Brickset database says I've got 718K pieces, though my Rebrickable database says I had more, probably it includes the spares and also PAB/loose parts. 
  • Speedman29Speedman29 UKMember Posts: 1,363
    Watched it last night. Again enjoyable. The right teams went I think, neither had the right scale and impact for displays outdoors.

    Got to agree with the comments on Nicolas and Kobe, their orang-utan, while impressive didn't really fit in with its surroundings.

    Sean Kenney, the guest judge has a youtube channel showing his builds.
  • VenunderVenunder Nottingham, UK.Member Posts: 2,494
    To answer an earlier question there are about 90-100 Bricksetters who track their collections on Brickset with 1 million bricks or more and I would think there are a few more who do not track their collections here.

    About the show.
    Maybe Nature should have been saved for the final week?

     
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,486
    I think an overlooked point is probably that most bricksetters will have bricks tied up in their builds, and therefore not available to build with. Doing a quick tally-up, I probably have about 175,000 pieces tied up in mocs and sets on display.
    catwrangler
  • DeMontesDeMontes North YorkshireMember Posts: 566
    @Paperballpark you'll have lots of Tan spare when you break up your Houses of Parliament
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,486
    DeMontes said:
    @Paperballpark you'll have lots of Tan spare when you break up your Houses of Parliament
    I'm not going to break it up.

    Anyway, I already have a lot of Tan spare from all the set parts that I didn't use.
  • DeMontesDeMontes North YorkshireMember Posts: 566
    @Paperballpark never??
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,240
    For those wanting to see more of Sean Kenney's creations, I have uploaded some pictures I took at Planckendael (BE) last month:

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/FkZczPTpziyrjBuk2

    You'll see most of the models shown in the program, and some more. I think the Belgian expo is the first time his work is displayed in Europe. His website also indicates a 2019 show in Edinburgh.


    On the topic of Lego Masters: I love the things the participants come up with, but every time the presenter or judges talk, I switch of... These type of elimination programs are really not my cup of tea.

    Jessica is clearly capable of creating fantastic things with Lego, but improvising or following somebody else's brief are not her strong points. That was already obvious in the previous episodes, so fair she got eliminated. I'm sure she's lovely in person, but the format doesn't allow for more than short soundbites. To create some contrast between the participants, they were likely also rather selective in what they put in the show.

    Quite interesting that Nicholas and Kobe (well, Nicolas) are each time aiming to build something huge. When they were showing their Lego room at home, there were lots of microbuilds around.

    I can relate to James and Jamil the best, but I agree that Nate and Steve are clearly the best all-round builders on the show. They perform well at each challenge, and excel at any size, both in quantity and quality.

    As others have mentioned, a separate version for KFOL/TFOL's and AFOL's would be great. I would have liked to see what Guy and Abraham would have come up with next week.
    catwranglersid3windr
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,486
    DeMontes said:
    I don't intend to, no. Why would I? It's a model of one of the most famous buildings in the world, and it'll never get old. Any show would want it to display, and it wouldn't surprise me if the odd museum or something wanted it too.
    LostInTranslationcatwranglerDeMontesOrmskirkBricks
  • PebblesPebbles EnglandMember Posts: 173
    I'm really enjoying this programme. However, I wish they had done a children's version separately. I felt so sorry for Guy and Abraham flicking from a giant orangutan to their small life stages of a butterfly, it made their creation look underwhelming, when in fact it was great for a pair of 9 year olds. :)
    omniumcatwranglersid3windr
  • catwranglercatwrangler Northern IrelandMember Posts: 1,814
    edited September 2017
    I wasn't keen on the first episode because of the way they kept showing you clips from later in the series; maybe that's standard for this kind of competitive show, but I preferred the later episodes when there was a lot less of that jumping around in sequence: I liked being able to follow them from one design brief to another. 

    I always really like seeing people work through their ideas and figure out how to build stuff; obviously that aspect has to be very truncated here for TV, but it worked okay within the format. 

    I was surprised but on reflection pleased at how strong the criticism from the judges tended to be - generally stuff about issues the competitors had neglected while focusing on other aspects of their models, e.g. not making the most of an outdoor environment, or building a good mechanism but not making the final model very visually attractive... it's all useful stuff to keep in mind if you want to improve your building. 

     I'd be all for another series that was just kids, or teens, or adults - in the end, primary school kids are going to come up with very different stuff than middle-aged people, but they can both be impressive relative to the builder's age and capabilities. I also wonder what would happen if you paired up experienced builders (in the same age group) who don't normally work together for building challenges - wouldn't work in this format, but might be an interesting idea for a one-off (perhaps longer) episode in itself.
    stluxomnium
  • sid3windrsid3windr BelgiumMember Posts: 1,421
    Just saw Ep 3, echoing pretty much all the comments above with regards to Jessica being portrayed as unlikeable and fussy, Guy/Abraham and the presenters (although that got better in the latest one!).

    The difference between kids and adults shows very much in most of these challenges, even just packing or moving stuff, let alone accounting for time etc. A separate one would be cool!

    I was happy to see Sean Kenney, as like @stlux I was able to enjoy his creations in real life closeby.

    Somewhat totally off topic, does Nicolas have an English accent? I keep thinking he's a Dutchie speaking English... :-)
    stlux
  • TheFewTheFew EnglandMember Posts: 1,497
    I must be in a minority. I watched 15 mins of episode 3 of this programme and I found it rather dull and turned it off!

    Should I go see the Doctor?
  • BooTheMightyHamsterBooTheMightyHamster Northern edge of London, just before the dragons...Member Posts: 1,296
    Possibly.
    Other Time travellers are available.
    TheFewsnowhitieMAGNINOMINISUMBRAbandit778iso3200
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,490
    sid3windr said:

    Somewhat totally off topic, does Nicolas have an English accent? I keep thinking he's a Dutchie speaking English... :-)
    Judging by his surname he is at least half-Dutch.
    omniumsid3windr
  • omniumomnium Brickenham, UKMember Posts: 785
    edited September 2017
    He either sounded Dutch or Scandanvian to me, but not English, for sure.

    I'd like to know where they got their blue drawer cabinets from. They look like Raaco/Draper, but with nicer clear plastic drawers.
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,240
    From Nicolas' university profile page, I'd say he's either Flemish, or an exile from the Dutch numerus clausus system. He got both his degree and PhD at Belgian universities. (Ghent University and Louvain-la-Neuve)
    sid3windr
  • mnbvcmnbvc Member Posts: 136
    I think you've all hit the nail on the head with what feels 'off' about the show; the competitors are wonderfully broad in style, which makes for interesting and diverse responses to each challenge - but it makes it very hard to judge and compare.  I think the knock-out format would be more suitable if the teams were closer - e.g. all teens, all kids, all adults etc.

    I thought the kids did marvellously well, and people forget what it's like to be 9 - to be in that room and building competitively with no adult assistance, and no guidance with the practical elements - e.g. packing or moving their models...well, I thought they did brilliantly.

    I have to admit, I thought the hardest part of the quickfire rounds wasn't the building, but thinking of things to build!  I was sat thinking, "I'm not sure I could come up with many insects off the top of my head!" - and again, I think that's a doubly hard genre for kids to build in.

    @Paperballpark - I think your observation about Jessica not following the brief was very astute. 
    catwranglersnowhitie
  • PebblesPebbles EnglandMember Posts: 173
    mnbvc said:


    I have to admit, I thought the hardest part of the quickfire rounds wasn't the building, but thinking of things to build!  I was sat thinking, "I'm not sure I could come up with many insects off the top of my head!" - and again, I think that's a doubly hard genre for kids to build in.

    Haha that was me as well, I was sat there going spider, errr bee, is a bee an insect, hmm what else, oh yeah spider, no wait i've said that one. My mind went totally blank. :D
    mnbvcsnowhitie
  • BooTheMightyHamsterBooTheMightyHamster Northern edge of London, just before the dragons...Member Posts: 1,296
    *cough*aspider'snotaninsect*cough*
    ;oD
    PebblesLostInTranslationsnowhitiesid3windrricecake
  • Mr_CrossMr_Cross East Anglia (UK)Member Posts: 1,025
    After watching three now, I think what I would like is more about Lego in the programme... more about techniques, they seem to have one token thing per episode. This week was SNOT, and correct me if I'm wrong but the definition given was incorrect, snot bricks are called that because the resulting end model has fewer or no studs showing on the surface, not as they suggested because the studs were not on top of the brick, which would be a misnomer as Jamil pointed out. I'd welcome more of a spotlight on the models from a build point of view if only with respect to a judge's favoured model.
    Think it was a shame that Guy and Abraham went out, but my favourites are Nate and Steve.
    mnbvcsid3windr
  • PebblesPebbles EnglandMember Posts: 173
    *cough*aspider'snotaninsect*cough*
    ;oD


    Well there you go my bee, would bee (hehe) on his own. Spontaneity is not my strong point, nor it seems is naming insects. :D
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,486
    Mr_Cross said:
    This week was SNOT, and correct me if I'm wrong but the definition given was incorrect, snot bricks are called that because the resulting end model has fewer or no studs showing on the surface, not as they suggested because the studs were not on top of the brick, which would be a misnomer as Jamil pointed out. 
    Erm, what? My understanding is that SNOT is exactly that - Studs Not On Top. It doesn't mean that there are NO studs on top, it means that you also attach studs that are not on top. There can still be studs showing on the surface.
    SirBrickalotOfLegoShibsnowhitiecatwranglerricecakeJern92
  • mnbvcmnbvc Member Posts: 136
    Mr_Cross said:
    This week was SNOT, and correct me if I'm wrong but the definition given was incorrect, snot bricks are called that because the resulting end model has fewer or no studs showing on the surface, not as they suggested because the studs were not on top of the brick, which would be a misnomer as Jamil pointed out. 
    Erm, what? My understanding is that SNOT is exactly that - Studs Not On Top. It doesn't mean that there are NO studs on top, it means that you also attach studs that are not on top. There can still be studs showing on the surface.
    Oddly, I think you're both sort of right.

    I think the difference in understanding comes from how SNOT was initially used as a term, before using headlight bricks in every build became commonplace, and you'd have to turn a standard brick or plate on its side to achieve the smooth top surface look, usually using hinges or clips to turn the brick sideways.

    As this technique became utilised more and more, we started to see an explosion (least, it felt like it from my perspective!) of bricks in sets that made this easier to achieve - so instead of having to build sideways, or at an angle, you could just use a brick that had two or more studs - one on top, and others at the side.

    That's why it looked like a misnomer, because a headlight brick has got a stud on the top - even though it's one of the most useful bricks for achieving SNOT.  So really, I wouldn't refer to the bricks as SNOT bricks.  They're bricks that help you to achieve the SNOT technique.
  • jon11380jon11380 25 minutes from the LEGO Shop MKMember Posts: 56
    @HuwMillington will confirm @Paperballpark I believe is correct. An example might be a cube where studs were present on all 6 sides = SNOT= studs not on top.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,486
    edited September 2017
    ^ If you want to alert Huw, use Huw, rather than HuwMillington. Personally I'm not sure it's something that Huw really needs to adjudicate on ;)
    sid3windr
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,490
    I'm no adjudicator but @Paperballpark is correct. It has nothing to do with hiding studs on tops of models.

    From https://www.brothers-brick.com/lego-glossary/

    SNOT
    Studs Not On Top. A building technique that places LEGO elements on their sides or even upside down to achieve the shape or structure the builder wants in their creation.
    catwranglerMr_Cross
  • JamesyJamesy Member Posts: 18
    Perhaps @mnbvc and @Daragh are right... "cheating" may be a bit harsh a term...
    I still think it's a bit unfair that they were allowed to use their extensive collection to generate detailed plans to simply follow 'on show', while the everyone else seem to have small/normal sized collections and build from their imagination within the time limit...
    While I don't watch GBBO and similar, I think the analogy to baking cakes is wrong. Baking/Cooking is a 'methodology' practice... it's the equivalent to practicing attaching the bricks together... There's a massive difference between having detailed construction plans and not.

    Re. episode 3
    Nate & Steve have firmly become my favourite team. Excellent builders, Super nice guys and seem to be going from strength to strength with each challenge.
    I was relieved Nicolas & Kobe got through. I think this performance was their weakest, but their performance in the first 2 episodes was head and shoulders in the top two (that chair!!)
    Sad to see Guy & Abraham go... I actually think they had a great idea with the life-cycle of a butterfly... but yes, perhaps in the end a struggle to compete logistically with the adults... I'll echo the sentiment, Probably the best 9 yr old Lego builders in the world!
  • Mr_CrossMr_Cross East Anglia (UK)Member Posts: 1,025
    Huw said:
    I'm no adjudicator but @Paperballpark is correct. It has nothing to do with hiding studs on tops of models.

    From https://www.brothers-brick.com/lego-glossary/

    SNOT
    Studs Not On Top. A building technique that places LEGO elements on their sides or even upside down to achieve the shape or structure the builder wants in their creation.
    Ah, ok.
    So it is a misnomer then? It seems like an odd definition for the specific bricks and the technique to me, but thank you for the clarification!
  • omniumomnium Brickenham, UKMember Posts: 785
    edited September 2017
    Jamesy said:
    Perhaps @mnbvc and @Daragh are right... "cheating" may be a bit harsh a term...
    I still think it's a bit unfair that they were allowed to use their extensive collection to generate detailed plans to simply follow 'on show', while the everyone else seem to have small/normal sized collections and build from their imagination within the time limit...
    While I don't watch GBBO and similar, I think the analogy to baking cakes is wrong. Baking/Cooking is a 'methodology' practice... it's the equivalent to practicing attaching the bricks together... There's a massive difference between having detailed construction plans and not.
    Is that the case, though? It seems like an assumption on your behalf.

    They are Irish, right? And from Faolin's accent, I assume they still live in Ireland. And the TV show is produced in UK, probably London. So I'd assume they will be staying in a hotel during filming; like the other contestants. I also assume they won't have their parts stash available. Although they may well have a load of parts stuffed in their suitcases, of course.

    But they could easily have a laptop with Stud.io or LDD installed. Something that the other contestants would have access to if they wanted to.

    The filming will be broken up into small sections over several days too, especially as there are filming limits when filming children. So a 15 hour build might actually be spread over 3 or 4 days. That leaves a lot of down time in a hotel room to plan, generate digital models and parts lists.

    Episode 3 showed that all teams had generated sketches and plans to some extent. Guy and Abraham had a colour drawing of their lifecycle idea that would have taken them some time do, for example.

    Mr_Cross said:
    Huw said:
    I'm no adjudicator but @Paperballpark is correct. It has nothing to do with hiding studs on tops of models.

    From https://www.brothers-brick.com/lego-glossary/

    SNOT
    Studs Not On Top. A building technique that places LEGO elements on their sides or even upside down to achieve the shape or structure the builder wants in their creation.
    Ah, ok.
    So it is a misnomer then? It seems like an odd definition for the specific bricks and the technique to me, but thank you for the clarification!
    Yes, I see lots of people use "SNOT" when they really mean "Studless". I probably do too. But both are defined in the glossary. And studs on the side are indeed studs not on top :-)
    catwranglerPeteMMr_Cross
  • JamesyJamesy Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2017
    omnium said:
    Jamesy said:
    Perhaps @mnbvc and @Daragh are right... "cheating" may be a bit harsh a term...
    I still think it's a bit unfair that they were allowed to use their extensive collection to generate detailed plans to simply follow 'on show', while the everyone else seem to have small/normal sized collections and build from their imagination within the time limit...
    While I don't watch GBBO and similar, I think the analogy to baking cakes is wrong. Baking/Cooking is a 'methodology' practice... it's the equivalent to practicing attaching the bricks together... There's a massive difference between having detailed construction plans and not.
    Is that the case, though? It seems like an assumption on your behalf.

    They are Irish, right? And from Faolin's accent, I assume they still live in Ireland. And the TV show is produced in UK, probably London. So I'd assume they will be staying in a hotel during filming; like the other contestants. I also assume they won't have their parts stash available. Although they may well have a load of parts stuffed in their suitcases, of course.

    But they could easily have a laptop with Stud.io or LDD installed. Something that the other contestants would have access to if they wanted to.

    The filming will be broken up into small sections over several days too, especially as there are filming limits when filming children. So a 15 hour build might actually be spread over 3 or 4 days. That leaves a lot of down time in a hotel room to plan, generate digital models and parts lists.

    Episode 3 showed that all teams had generated sketches and plans to some extent. Guy and Abraham had a colour drawing of their lifecycle idea that would have taken them some time do, for example.

    Not an assumption... an observation.
    1) Detailed lists of all the required components to make the build
    2) Folder of photos (of real Lego bricks) showing each stage of construction

    Yes, she's a good MOCer; Yes, her builds are better than anything I could build; Yes, there is nothing preventing every team from turning up with essentially an Instruction book of the build...
    However, I thought the premise of the show is that the teams have limited time to build from their imagination and what's available.
    If they all had done the same, then probably I wouldn't have mentioned it. I just felt that it was unfair on the other teams...
    sid3windr
  • omniumomnium Brickenham, UKMember Posts: 785
    Jamesy said:
    Not an assumption... an observation.
    1) Detailed lists of all the required components to make the build
    2) Folder of photos (of real Lego bricks) showing each stage of construction

    Yes, she's a good MOCer; Yes, her builds are better than anything I could build; Yes, there is nothing preventing every team from turning up with essentially an Instruction book of the build...
    However, I thought the premise of the show is that the teams have limited time to build from their imagination and what's available.
    If they all had done the same, then probably I wouldn't have mentioned it. I just felt that it was unfair on the other teams...
    I think you missed my point :-)

    I don't think having a detailed list and photos means she's using her extensive collection, as you said. Nor does it mean she's cheating or using an advantage that others didn't have access to.

    I only suggest they could have been using Stud.io or LDD, which would give them an infinite parts collection. And the other contestants would have had the ability to do the same thing, if they so wished.

    I'd hazard a guess that everyone was briefed at the same time, in the same way and had the same time to prepare, with the same "down time" between filming. But Jessica and Faolin chose to prepare in a more meticulous way than the others.

    And the students went to the pub ;-)
    stluxsid3windrsnowhitie
  • DaraghDaragh IrelandMember Posts: 363
    Nobody has mentioned the computer print out of the chair design Abraham and Guy had in the first episode, not saying there was anything wrong with it, but the finger keeps getting pointed at Jessica and Faolán for some reason. 
    catwranglerstluxomniumvizzitorCoolguy5000
  • sid3windrsid3windr BelgiumMember Posts: 1,421
    I'm just happy to realize they had more preparation than the "build something now" so that tells me I'm not as slow in designing/building as they make me out to be. ;-)
    Daragh
  • OrmskirkBricksOrmskirkBricks England, UKMember Posts: 265
    Well, after now catching up on the three episodes I quite like the show. I have to agree with previous comments, putting adults against kids is slightly unfair, although in my experience my son (10) often comes up with more challenging ideas for builds! 

    I'd also like to see a longer series, but not sure if Matthew Ashton could take the emotional stress! Poor guy.

    Lets hope the production company get the right feedback and are commissioned for another run!
  • Speedman29Speedman29 UKMember Posts: 1,363
    Wow. Not going to spoil the final as it's only just finished. But builds were amazing. The best team won.
    LostInTranslationsnowhitieLegopantsMr_Cross
  • snowhitiesnowhitie BelgiumMember Posts: 2,878
    I agree. Very impressive. Enjoyed it too.
  • Wicksy80Wicksy80 Northern IrelandMember Posts: 559
    Brilliant builds. I was torn between the 2. Thoroughly enjoyed the show, hope they make another one!
  • snowhitiesnowhitie BelgiumMember Posts: 2,878
    ^ yup, very different and good in their own way.

    But specially taking into account previous builds (which the judges might not have done), think the best team won. Difficult taking about this whitout spoilers :)
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,486
    To be honest, I think anyone reading this thread not having watched it yet should expect spoilers!

    Both teams were great, with really different builds. But in the end, Nate and Steve really nailed theirs. Very impressive, especially considering neither had built life-size figures before!
    LegopantsMr_Crosscatwrangler
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