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  • papluhpapluh Member Posts: 52
    Yeah, I don't get that holes sticker too. First, why it is even there, does it have some connection to the movies that I'm missing ?

    Then there is the use of stickers. Let's say that I understand that some parts like those tunnels might be not printable with their current technology (the head does not fit in). But some other parts were printed on in other set. The bullet hole part ? For Friends set... The disc part ? In Caterham, 4 times as brake disc. I don't get it ...
  • dougtsdougts Member Posts: 4,110
    I've always believed that the premium price point LEGO models should include printed elements. I think it's criminal that they don't (and don't give me that company spin that it's too expensive)
    mustang69PapaBearYeeMasterBeefyBartelasRecce
  • canon03canon03 Member Posts: 364
    I also agree the price point should provide us with printed parts.  If they must use stickers, why not include a second sheet for "free" so if I get one crooked, I've got a spare waiting?
    Yee
  • HanzoHanzo Member Posts: 607
    edited September 2017
    Oh you want fully printed parts on the new Falcon?  Boom, price is now $999.  :-P
  • CaptainRogersCaptainRogers Member Posts: 862
    ^$999? It better actually fly! And I don't mean the 'Harrison Ford' way!
    HanzoUberbrickgmonkey76Jern92
  • C0chiseC0chise Member Posts: 47
    I'm researching how to display the Falcon and seen some awesome coffee table displays.  I've searched everywhere for a enclosed glass table but cant find anything.  Anyone have any suggestions?
  • FauchFauch Member Posts: 2,679
    dougts said:
    I've always believed that the premium price point LEGO models should include printed elements. I think it's criminal that they don't (and don't give me that company spin that it's too expensive)
    the new printed canopy is responsible for this year negative growth
    M_BossSumoLegogmonkey76YeeHanzoBartelascatwranglerYodalicious
  • monstblitzmonstblitz Member Posts: 653
    Hanzo said:
    Oh you want fully printed parts on the new Falcon?  Boom, price is now $999.  :-P

    For the bullet hole sticker - forget about a printed part.  No need for the sticker.  Lego is smart, they have to know how much AFOLs hate stickers.  It's almost like they are trolling us with that sticker.  Just to piss you all off, a meaningless sticker on your $800 set. 

    I was nitpicking before, but the more I think about it, the more this sticker is really pissing me off!  Maybe I should just use it as a convenient excuse to save myself $800...





    Who am I kidding I'll be in line September 14th.
    M_Boss
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    ^ Just send your wife, she'll be thrilled at the honor.
    gmonkey761265
  • drakusdrakus Member Posts: 16
    What the hell did I miss? Why are people talking about being in line next week?
  • pharmjodpharmjod Member Posts: 2,916
    If there is one thing the brits love more than the monarchy it's queuing. =)
    PapaBearSumoLegoCasper_vd_KorfomniumM_BossBartelas
  • ricecakericecake Member Posts: 878
    drakus said:
    What the hell did I miss? Why are people talking about being in line next week?
    VIP early access starts September 14, general release on October 1.
  • TheFewTheFew Member Posts: 1,781
    Suggest we all post the sticker sheets back to the Lego CEO.
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,379
    TheFew said:
    Suggest we all post the sticker sheets back to the Lego CEO.
    From a £650 set I'll be framing them so they don't get damaged. :)
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,169
    edited September 2017
    monstblitz said:
    The tunnel stickers are one thing.  On the second watch of the designer video I noticed the super cheap and crappy looking 'bullet' hole sticker that goes on the exterior.  Interior stickers at least are hidden.  Again, it's nitpicking and I know it can be left off, but why include it in the first place!

    Your comment about the bullet hole sticker reminded me of my 6th birthday when I got the Kenner X-Wing. The moment I applied the battle scarring stickers to the wings, I regretted it. Better off without.

    I think you are far more likely to get stickers on the larger sets. For one, there are more elements needing the level of detail that stickers and printing provide, meaning a lot of printed parts. For another, the UCS plaque is always a sticker, so they're doing a sticker sheet anyway. For a third point - I think that Lego look to print parts for smaller sets aimed at younger kids where they either won't have the motor skills to apply them neatly or they won't stand up to clumsy play. TLG are fine with older kids and AFOLs having to apply stickers.
    catwranglerAanchirecmo47
  • cavegodcavegod Member Posts: 811
    id prefer decals
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,703
    edited September 2017
    Much like everyone else in this thread I'm saving up for the #75192 - Millennium Falcon, only got 1/3 of the costs covered so far; need to get the other 2/3 within a week...

    Yesterday my mum helped me out by posting some more stuff I've sold. I clearly mentioned keep one specific package safe as it contained valuable Minifigures. Then she turned towards me and said your saving up for that big set aren't you? You don't have space for it...
    Muftak1Klintancatwrangler
  • stetstet Member Posts: 45
    The hallway stickers are really turning me away from this set.  Stickers are bad enough, but stickers that pretend to be parts of the build that aren’t really there are even worse.  It is nice that we are getting a few small interior areas, ideally we would have a fully detailed interior instead.  Using stickers to simulate the interior is not the way.
  • Muftak1Muftak1 Member Posts: 550
    Adzbadboy said:
    Then she turned towards me and said your saving up for that big set aren't you? You don't have space for it...
    Thats what my wife said! :-)
    AdeelZubairAllBrick
  • CommanderJigglypuffCommanderJigglypuff Member Posts: 63
    I don't get the hate for stickers. They add details to things that you normally won't have and are of high quality. Yes, printed pieces would be even better but printing 20 new pieces would make things even more expensive (and I don't find the UCS MF expensive for what you get). 

    I also don't get the need for an interieur as you most likely never see that (not only with this set, but also with modulars.. I just don't get why people care that much). I would rather have all the interieur pieces used for the exterieur where possible to make it the perfect, from the outside, looking set. 

    They obviously will rather never print everything and/or make the perfect set because you'll never need to buy the next UCS MF then (this goes for every Lego set). Just look at the smartphone industry. They can give you the ultimate phone if they want to (if you don't find the high end phones right now good enough) for probably half the price of what you pay now, but why would they? If you have the best version of a phone aka Lego set, why would you buy the next one? You won't and that's why Lego doesn't include all printed pieces, 15000 pieces set for €500 and minifig printing all over the place. Regardless of what people here say: this set will sell great and do better than expected. In 10-15 years they will make a new, updated one that you're probably going to buy as well because that's how it works. 
    C0chisearathemiscatwranglerA.Brickovskysnowhitieecmo47Redbullgivesuwind
  • monkey_roomonkey_roo Member Posts: 1,411
    Personally i like the stickers on this set (from what we have seen), yes printed bits would be nicer, but the balance needs to be there between cost and finish and for me, the use of quality stickers in the right places and new printed elements in the right places is the best way to get the finished product at the best price.

    As for the internal corridor stickers, i think they are great, a very good way to present the illusion of a larger interior and enhance the small areas that are built up on the inside.

    I am assuming there isn't more interior as there must be a sizeable amount of bricks hidden away to give the model its structural integrity and therefore its the space for more internal areas, and the fact that this is a display model best viewed from the outside means there isn't a great need to go nuts on an internal view, again, i think they seem to have the best balance present here.
    Wicksy80stluxMr_CrossBartelasAanchirYeedanstraindepot
  • DarthMorlDarthMorl Member Posts: 335
    I wonder why LEGO decided against a "first addition" logo on the box. I wonder if the first run will come with a first addition certificate ???
  • kezkez Member Posts: 831
    I can't wait to buy this, does anyone know what exclusive freebies will be included in-store upon purchase of this beast next week?

    The only thing I've heard of being included is the Falcon VIP card, so I'm debating whether to get it next week or at a later date. :-D
  • Switchfoot55Switchfoot55 Member Posts: 3,351
    So I was talking with another AFOL friend this weekend about the MF and how great it would be to own/build it. The unfortunate reality is neither of us are financially in the position to drop $800...at least not any time soon. We could certainly budget for it and hope to pick up a copy next year, assuming it's still in production. Our wives were also quick to point out everything else we could do with $800 either now or in the future...ugh.

    That's when my buddy had an idea: A MF Timeshare Co-Buy! Neither of us can afford $800, but maybe we could afford $400? Or if we found a third friend, $266.66? The idea is we could pool our money, buy it, build it together, and then each get an equal share of time to have it in our possession.

    I think the conversation started as a joke, but has turned more real as we thought it through. Any one of us could easily buy the other(s) out in the future if one moved or desired to own it outright. And realistically, I could only swoosh it for two or three months at a time anyway before I'd need a break to regain my strength. 

    The wives didn't have an immediate rebuttal to the idea. Though the warning alarm in my brain is screaming "Brace for impact!" 

    Anyone ever done something like this before on a larger set?


    .....I offered to pay $270 and the others $265 if that afforded me the privilege of huffing the bag air when we opened it.
    C0chiseCasper_vd_KorfomniumcatwranglerBillyBricks84snowhitievwong19
  • Anth88Anth88 Member Posts: 33
    edited September 2017
    DarthMorl said:
    I wonder why LEGO decided against a "first addition" logo on the box. I wonder if the first run will come with a first addition certificate ???

    I wonder if they are trying to control after market price down the line.
  • Anth88Anth88 Member Posts: 33
    stet said:
    The hallway stickers are really turning me away from this set.  Stickers are bad enough, but stickers that pretend to be parts of the build that aren’t really there are even worse.  It is nice that we are getting a few small interior areas, ideally we would have a fully detailed interior instead.  Using stickers to simulate the interior is not the way.
    I think for a Lego set though that's fine. We aren't talking a Deagostini model level interior here, which is more than double the price the Lego set.
  • DarthMorlDarthMorl Member Posts: 335
    Anth88 said:
    DarthMorl said:
    I wonder why LEGO decided against a "first addition" logo on the box. I wonder if the first run will come with a first addition certificate ???

    I wonder if they are trying to control after market price down the line.
    Yes that would be my guess, that and they must be fairly confident of selling there initial run.
  • BartelasBartelas Member Posts: 130
    edited September 2017
    One question: Why is the Boxart the depart from Bespin? Or rather why aren't Luke and Lando included if the Boxart is what it is? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the given Minifig selection, just wondering tho ;)
  • mattytreksmattytreks Member Posts: 201
    kez said:
    I can't wait to buy this, does anyone know what exclusive freebies will be included in-store upon purchase of this beast next week?

    The only thing I've heard of being included is the Falcon VIP card, so I'm debating whether to get it next week or at a later date. :-D
    The question that still remains, is that black VIP card photographed in Germany, so there are no guarantees (yet at least), that this card will be available elsewhere -- meaning outside the EU.

    We shall see!
    kez
  • BobflipBobflip Member Posts: 723
    CommanderJigglypuff said:
    I don't get the hate for stickers. They add details to things that you normally won't have and are of high quality. Yes, printed pieces would be even better but printing 20 new pieces would make things even more expensive (and I don't find the UCS MF expensive for what you get). 

    I also don't get the need for an interieur as you most likely never see that (not only with this set, but also with modulars.. I just don't get why people care that much). I would rather have all the interieur pieces used for the exterieur where possible to make it the perfect, from the outside, looking set. 

    They obviously will rather never print everything and/or make the perfect set because you'll never need to buy the next UCS MF then (this goes for every Lego set). Just look at the smartphone industry. They can give you the ultimate phone if they want to (if you don't find the high end phones right now good enough) for probably half the price of what you pay now, but why would they? If you have the best version of a phone aka Lego set, why would you buy the next one? You won't and that's why Lego doesn't include all printed pieces, 15000 pieces set for €500 and minifig printing all over the place. Regardless of what people here say: this set will sell great and do better than expected. In 10-15 years they will make a new, updated one that you're probably going to buy as well because that's how it works. 
    I'm not convinced that LEGO have planned obsolescence, particularly not for a flagship set such as this! In 10-15 years, people will probably want to buy a new one as well because it's naturally possible to be improved upon with the use of new building techniques and elements.
  • PapaBearPapaBear Member Posts: 638
    It's hard to say if there will be enough stock for this thing.  The last one didn't sell well, but there are way more AFOLs now.  I'm expecting the first batch to sell out.  Watch the stock online to see how fast it goes into backorder. 

    Companies also love to under-produce items to make it seem like they are highly sought after.
  • monstblitzmonstblitz Member Posts: 653
    mattytreks said:
    kez said:
    I can't wait to buy this, does anyone know what exclusive freebies will be included in-store upon purchase of this beast next week?

    The only thing I've heard of being included is the Falcon VIP card, so I'm debating whether to get it next week or at a later date. :-D
    The question that still remains, is that black VIP card photographed in Germany, so there are no guarantees (yet at least), that this card will be available elsewhere -- meaning outside the EU.

    We shall see!
    Take this with a grain of salt as it came from Lego Store Employee - but he was telling people last Friday that online purchases would come with the black VIP card.  Not sure if it's not included with in store.  He seemed to be making the point that online was where you wanted to get it because of the black VIP card.

    As to timesharing the MF - seems like a TERRIBLE idea to me.  Where do you keep it?  How often does it change locations?  If it every appreciates to even a fraction of what original does, what do you do?  Someone wants to sell, another wants to hold?  Don't you guys watch the Simpson?

    Don't do it.

    As to stickers - there are 2 types of Lego fans in my opinion.  Those who hate stickers and those who pretend to like them.  Because NOBODY likes stickers. 



    A.Brickovsky
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    edited September 2017
    I can't believe anyone here genuinely believes that printed parts instead of stickers would have any bearing on the price of the MF. Look at the exchange rates when buying this in the US, Europe and UK (and compare to the WV train station). Lego havent priced the MF to hit a specific profit margin they price purely on what they think the market will sustain and 20 or however many printed parts would cost lego pence rather than pounds. They understandably want the UCS plaque to be a sticker and then after that they're just lazy.
  • catwranglercatwrangler Member Posts: 1,894
    monstblitz said:
    As to timesharing the MF - seems like a TERRIBLE idea to me.  Where do you keep it?  How often does it change locations?  If it every appreciates to even a fraction of what original does, what do you do?  Someone wants to sell, another wants to hold?  Don't you guys watch the Simpson?

    Don't do it.

    I was just coming here to say this! It's going to end with three guys in a treehouse with a pair of tweezers and a candle, glaring at each other suspiciously...
    monstblitzSandmanricecake
  • LyichirLyichir Member Posts: 1,018
    cheshirecat said:
    I can't believe anyone here genuinely believes that printed parts instead of stickers would have any bearing on the price of the MF. Look at the exchange rates when buying this in the US, Europe and UK (and compare to the WV train station). Lego havent priced the MF to hit a specific profit margin they price purely on what they think the market will sustain and 20 or however many printed parts would cost lego pence rather than pounds. They understandably want the UCS plaque to be a sticker and then after that they're just lazy.
    I don't know about that. The printed entryways may be on a part that has been printed in the past, but notably, it's on a PART of that part that I don't think has been printed in the past. In most cases, that requires new tooling to put it through the pad printer, but in this case, I'm not even 100% sure that'd be enough, since the part that needs to be decorated is the INSIDE of the hollow-backed 1x6x5 panel. So that could definitely be a challenging surface to print, and potentially an expensive one, compared to the negligible cost of including more stickers in a set that already has to have a sticker sheet for the nameplate anyway.
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,379
    catwrangler said:v
    monstblitz said:
    As to timesharing the MF - seems like a TERRIBLE idea to me.  Where do you keep it?  How often does it change locations?  If it every appreciates to even a fraction of what original does, what do you do?  Someone wants to sell, another wants to hold?  Don't you guys watch the Simpson?

    Don't do it.

    I was just coming here to say this! It's going to end with three guys in a treehouse with a pair of tweezers and a candle, glaring at each other suspiciously...
    I also think a Gollum meme would be quite suitable concerning time sharing the set.    :)

    On the sticker situation, I really don't mind the majority of them (unless they are on transparent or curved pieces).
    What I hate is being a bumbling old buffoon who takes ages having to apply them properly.
    catwrangler
  • Anth88Anth88 Member Posts: 33
    edited September 2017
    catwrangler said:e
    monstblitz said:
    As to timesharing the MF - seems like a TERRIBLE idea to me.  Where do you keep it?  How often does it change locations?  If it every appreciates to even a fraction of what original does, what do you do?  Someone wants to sell, another wants to hold?  Don't you guys watch the Simpson?

    Don't do it.

    I was just coming here to say this! It's going to end with three guys in a treehouse with a pair of tweezers and a candle, glaring at each other suspiciously...
    People actually buy these sets together? Lol. I dont think it would appreciate enough to be worth the hassle.
  • Brickfan50Brickfan50 Member Posts: 478
    Why do I still click in this thread when I see '24 new posts'? There's nothing new here, the MF is a fact. This forum keeps me puzzled. 
    catwranglerSirBrickalotOfLegoSumoLegoA.Brickovskysnowhitie
  • monstblitzmonstblitz Member Posts: 653
    dutchlegofan50 said:
    Why do I still click in this thread when I see '24 new posts'? There's nothing new here, the MF is a fact. This forum keeps me puzzled. 
    Because it's still a great thread!
    omniumSumoLegomustang69gmonkey76YeeA.BrickovskyScogali
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    For the largest and most expensive Lego set to date i wouldve thought Lego wouldve tempted everyone with something better than a black VIP Card :/

    Having said that i wouldnt be suprised to see them selling on ebay for £50-100.


  • Angry_WarlockAngry_Warlock Member Posts: 16
    Legofanscott said:
    For the largest and most expensive Lego set to date i wouldve thought Lego wouldve tempted everyone with something better than a black VIP Card :/

    Having said that i wouldnt be suprised to see them selling on ebay for £50-100.


    If its linked to my VIP account I'll happily sell mine for £50 and I earn points every time someone else uses it !
    TyresOFlahertydougtsWicksy80Muftak1M_BossAdeelZubairFollowsClosely
  • SeanTheCollectorSeanTheCollector Member Posts: 765
    For anyone who hasn't read about the black VIP card:
    From the attached comments, it sounds like any benefits may be spread over 2018.
    Anyone got more details?
    sonatine01
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    Bartelas said:
    One question: Why is the Boxart the depart from Bespin? Or rather why aren't Luke and Lando included if the Boxart is what it is? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the given Minifig selection, just wondering tho ;)
    Maybe they're arriving at Bespin?  I'm more shocked at the lack of explosions.  I feel shortchanged!
  • supervir2supervir2 Member Posts: 25
    I really want to hold out for double points, but if this card can net me $40, then it'd be a wash and I'd go ahead and purchase day one.  Not sure we will know in time though.
  • cavegodcavegod Member Posts: 811
    if the rumour are tobe believed then the falcon is only available till December next year.
  • YeeYee Member Posts: 18
    cavegod said:
    if the rumour are tobe believed then the falcon is only available till December next year.
    I'm not quite sure about that. UCS Slave I came out in 2014 and is still available, UCS TIE Fighter and Helicarrier were released in 2015 and are both still available as well. I imagine it'll have the usual 3 year life span that D2C sets get. People outside of our circle weren't expecting $800 so to retire it after 14 months would be missing business. 

    supervir2 said:
    I really want to hold out for double points, but if this card can net me $40, then it'd be a wash and I'd go ahead and purchase day one.  Not sure we will know in time though.
    The Brick Fan article said their source said the card would be mailed out a while after your purchase even with on an online order. If that's the case it's a 99% chance it's tied to your account. Even then I doubt there's too many people who'd even be interested. 

    I'm very interested to see what the special perks are. I'm guessing it'll be more often double VIP on Star Wars sets or early access to May the 4th deals. If it's anything more than that I'll be pleasantly surprised. 
  • DarthMorlDarthMorl Member Posts: 335
    I would of loved an exclusive minifig poly with any purchase 
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    cheshirecat said:
    I can't believe anyone here genuinely believes that printed parts instead of stickers would have any bearing on the price of the MF. Look at the exchange rates when buying this in the US, Europe and UK (and compare to the WV train station). Lego havent priced the MF to hit a specific profit margin they price purely on what they think the market will sustain and 20 or however many printed parts would cost lego pence rather than pounds. They understandably want the UCS plaque to be a sticker and then after that they're just lazy.
    I agree, especially with that last sentence. They are going to do a sticker for the plaque anyway, so they decide to fill up the sheet with designs for other stickered parts rather than print them.
  • omniumomnium Member Posts: 831
    Now that the launch event is official, I'm quite sure I'm going:

    https://brickset.com/article/30454/be-the-first-to-own-a-millennium-falcon

    Logistics are the problem, as CCC mentions on there. Trains stop about midnight when the signing starts. I think I'll get a cab or uber back home. Uber says it's about £30 back to Twickenham.

    If someone wants to park in Twickenham for free, I'll be happy to share my cab back with them. I reckon we might struggle to get more than 2 people and 2 MF boxes in a cab, though - would that box even fit in the boot of a regular car??

    Of course, there are closer places to park than Twickenham, so it would have to be convenient for you to make it worth your time.
    Calv
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