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  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    edited July 2017
    ^ The BB-8 set isn't a UCS.
    Bartelasfourstud
  • bobabricksbobabricks Member Posts: 1,842
    edited July 2017
    Paperballpark said:
    ^ The BB-8 set isn't a UCS.
    I really do not understand why the BB-8 was not made UCS. It has a UCS style plaque and I believe it is scaled to the UCS R2-D2 set from 2012.
    SumoLegogmonkey76Jackad7
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,370
    It's not a D2C. It's a wide release!! Part of a lineup!! Just cause it looks like one doesn't mean it is! 


    bobabricks
  • bobabricksbobabricks Member Posts: 1,842
    CM4S said:
    It's not a D2C. It's a wide release!! Part of a lineup!! Just cause it looks like one doesn't mean it is! 


    Ah I see, and I like the word lineup! Any word on if they are all to be scaled to 10225? Or is BB-8's scale just a coincidence?
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,370
    bobabricks said:
    CM4S said:
    It's not a D2C. It's a wide release!! Part of a lineup!! Just cause it looks like one doesn't mean it is! 


    Ah I see, and I like the word lineup! Any word on if they are all to be scaled to 10225? Or is BB-8's scale just a coincidence?
    The* TLJ lineup, my bad. 
    bobabricks
  • bobabricksbobabricks Member Posts: 1,842
    @CM4S ahhh you got me excited for a sec, ha ha!
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    bobabricks said:
    I really do not understand why the BB-8 was not made UCS. It has a UCS style plaque and I believe it is scaled to the UCS R2-D2 set from 2012.
    And Lego can always retrospectively lump it in later.  Maybe on a promotional poster...

    I don't think the original Death Star or Ewok Village were originally UCSs.  Or the TIE Collection...
    Bumblepantsgmonkey76Onebricktoomanybobabricksred5
  • LyichirLyichir Member Posts: 1,018
    ecmo47 said:
    Per the above leak, looks like BB-8 will be the fall Star Wars USC. Perhaps we may see an announcement about a new USC MF but I do not think we will see the set released this year. As mentioned before, I fervently hope that Lego does a 6 month (or more) pre-order period to cut down on the release day hysteria.  
    Here's a fun question: is BB-8 even a UCS set? It includes a plaque, but the leaked box does not feature a badge, and if the set is a regular retail set rather than a D2C set it does not fit the official qualification. I certainly doubt it takes the place of the rumored falcon either way.
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,370
    Lyichir said:
    ecmo47 said:
    Per the above leak, looks like BB-8 will be the fall Star Wars USC. Perhaps we may see an announcement about a new USC MF but I do not think we will see the set released this year. As mentioned before, I fervently hope that Lego does a 6 month (or more) pre-order period to cut down on the release day hysteria.  
    Here's a fun question: is BB-8 even a UCS set? It includes a plaque, but the leaked box does not feature a badge, and if the set is a regular retail set rather than a D2C set it does not fit the official qualification. I certainly doubt it takes the place of the rumored falcon either way.

    Its a regular retail set. That is a fact! 
    CapnRex101
  • FowlerBricksFowlerBricks Member Posts: 1,731
    Sorry 'bout the confidential images. Didn't notice the watermark until you guys pointed it out.  
    Dedgecko
  • MrKettleMrKettle Member Posts: 137
    CM4S said:
    Lyichir said:
    ecmo47 said:
    Per the above leak, looks like BB-8 will be the fall Star Wars USC. Perhaps we may see an announcement about a new USC MF but I do not think we will see the set released this year. As mentioned before, I fervently hope that Lego does a 6 month (or more) pre-order period to cut down on the release day hysteria.  
    Here's a fun question: is BB-8 even a UCS set? It includes a plaque, but the leaked box does not feature a badge, and if the set is a regular retail set rather than a D2C set it does not fit the official qualification. I certainly doubt it takes the place of the rumored falcon either way.

    Its a regular retail set. That is a fact! 
    Ahh but it comes with a plaque...

    lights blue touchpaper and retires to a safe distance.
  • LuccideLuccide Member Posts: 42
    coming with a plaque dosent make a set UCS. Since the sand crawler every ucs set has been labled with the ucs logo so unless it changes BB8 is not a ucs

  • willp2003willp2003 Member Posts: 88
    It's too cheap to be UCS. The plaque is a bit strange though, which is why it looks like a UCS model. 
  • Mr_CrossMr_Cross Member Posts: 1,689
    Just playing devil's avocado (sic) here, but isn't it easier to call the BB8 a UCS because it kind of fits with the R2 from a few years ago? I know it doesn't appear to be (officially) a UCS, but "large scale" or "brick-built" are the other descriptions you could use and it feels like semantics if the only thing stopping it being UCS is a label. If I were cataloguing, would I put it in the list with UCS, or do I put it with the Constraction figures, it's system but not mini-figure scale? Does price really have a bearing on its status as a UCS?
  • LuccideLuccide Member Posts: 42
    Lego themselves didn't care for a long time which is why there is no official list of ucs sets as they never tracked them (according to multiple lego reps I have spoken to anyway) they changed that recently by introducing ucs logo badge for ucs sets in an attempt to standardise it
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,169
    edited July 2017
    I'm going to have to pare back my collection and go UCS only (due to recent events - our house population is about to double), and i'd buy this to go with my others. It's close enough to consider it UCS - i'm sure it's worthier than Obi Wan's Jedi Star from 5 years or so ago.
    waynlewisDedgecko
  • Bengh_ZeranBengh_Zeran Member Posts: 42
    Hi everyone, I'm pretty much a n00b on the forum here though I've been reading this thread for a while now. I've been reading a lot of the hundreds of speculative posts here about a possible upcoming UCS MF but I might have missed in case any member here ever mentioned this:
    At least one of the featured BrickLists is hinting at a very, very big LEGO set which is going to be announced on September 1st 2017. Of course we can't be sure yet as to what kind of set this will be nor which theme, but it might as well be the rumoured new UCS Falcon as 1) the hint -the comment- was written by the LEGO designer himself; 2) the featured BrickList is also compiled by the designer himself (updated by him on 7 July 2017); 3) this designer has already brought us 2 UCS sets (the UCS Slave I and the not-so-UCS Insult to Hoth... of which the latter he even admitted it "being rather a big play set than a true "UCS" set" and the directive he got of "don't add anything, don't remove anything - just run with it" so we cannot really blame the designer for the end result of 75098. He even stated "Definitely nothing for the hard core collector who already got every set back to 1999, but a good catch-up on everything Hoth for new LEGO Star Wars fans."); 4) the comments he wrote about his participation in 'Insult to Hoth' sound to me like the designer is on one hand explaining the end result and the reason for it being released as is, but I also kind of feel his need and wish for being able to design another, much much better -perhaps unforgettable- set, which hints to me as his wish for designing another SW UCS one (plus he already did the successful Falcon for TFA and he did last year's SW Advent calender to which he commented how he was able "to avoid having to build a stupid weapons rack" so he definitely knows what the fans (dis)like)!

    I don't know but I just feel like this might be the hint I was looking for. What about you? If you go through his featured BrickList and go through his comments, what do you say about the possibility of the set to be announced on September 1st being a new UCS MF?
    I already own a copy of 10179 (First production run) so I'm a happy camper but I wouldn't mind if a new one is coming out (hopefully with a full interior this time.)

    The featured BrickList: https://brickset.com/sets/list-14074
    BrickCommander is Hans Burkhard Schlömer
    The comments hinting at a new big set being announced September 1st can be read in his comments about designing this year's

    75182: Republic Fighter Tank

    Hans saying "I did this set as a quick side-project while working on a much, much, much, much, much, much larger set which is going to be announced on September 1st 2017." (Do we even need a bigger hint or coming from a more reliable source than a LEGO employee who is in the LEGO SW design team with 2 UCS sets under his belt?)

    And did you know we almost got a LEGO set for the 'Rogue One' transport ship as well if it was entirely up to Lucasfilm? (Read the comments Hans wrote on Krennic's Shuttle! Perhaps we still might get a Rogue One ship in the future...?)

    Another thought that might add to the rumours:
    As we all know Star Wars is celebrating it's 40th Anniversary this year but sofar we only got the mini brick build R2-D2 on May the Fourth to celebrate this.
    The previous UCS MF was released in the fall of 2007, exactly 10 years ago, when SW celebrated it's 30th Anniversary (time for a rerelease and/or update). A new UCS MF wouldn't detract from the upcoming Last Jedi movie as we all anticipate the Falcon will get screen time in EP VIII as well. Perhaps they can release it with 2 exchangeable radar dishes and with the old and new Falcon crew?! Who knows...

    At last on September 1st we'll all know if we were right or wrong. In the meantime I'm going to keep on building my other LEGO SW sets, saving up and working overtime for this "much, much, much, much, much, much larger set" and enjoy the summer!

    I wish you all a great summer holiday! 
    Galactus
  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Administrator Posts: 6,755
    willp2003 said:
    It's too cheap to be UCS.
    Irrelevant - #10026 Special Edition Naboo Starfighter was UCS and retailed for only $40.

    Regarding the plaque, can anyone provide examples of non-UCS sets which came with a UCS-style plaque?
    gmonkey76bobabricksCCC
  • MAGNINOMINISUMBRAMAGNINOMINISUMBRA Member Posts: 993
    #10177 Boeing 787 Dreamliner

  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Administrator Posts: 6,755
    MAGNINOMINISUMBRA said:
    #10177 Boeing 787 Dreamliner

    Apologies - I was referring to Star Wars.
  • sonsofscevasonsofsceva Member Posts: 542
    The planet series came with plaques! Wait, what are we talking about?
    LuccideBartelasdatsunrobbieFollowsCloselyGalactus
  • bobabricksbobabricks Member Posts: 1,842
    edited July 2017
    SumoLego said:
    bobabricks said:
    I really do not understand why the BB-8 was not made UCS. It has a UCS style plaque and I believe it is scaled to the UCS R2-D2 set from 2012.
    And Lego can always retrospectively lump it in later.  Maybe on a promotional poster...

    I don't think the original Death Star or Ewok Village were originally UCSs.  Or the TIE Collection...
    I've always followed these for any UCS set, either includes a plaque, is marked as UCS on the box, OR has the corresponding 101xx/102xx product number. So personally, I've always considered 10188, Ewok Village, 2009 Tantive IV, Tie Collection and even Cloud City as UCS sets.
  • Bengh_ZeranBengh_Zeran Member Posts: 42
    bobabricks said:
    SumoLego said:
    bobabricks said:
    I really do not understand why the BB-8 was not made UCS. It has a UCS style plaque and I believe it is scaled to the UCS R2-D2 set from 2012.
    And Lego can always retrospectively lump it in later.  Maybe on a promotional poster...

    I don't think the original Death Star or Ewok Village were originally UCSs.  Or the TIE Collection...
    I've always followed these for any UCS set, either includes a plaque, is marked as UCS on the box, OR has the corresponding 101xx/102xx product number. So personally, I've always considered 10188, Ewok Village, 2009 Tantive IV, Tie Collection and even Cloud City as UCS sets.
    As far as these products and numbers go, do not confuse UCS with D2C. 
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    Lyichir said:
    ecmo47 said:
    Per the above leak, looks like BB-8 will be the fall Star Wars USC. Perhaps we may see an announcement about a new USC MF but I do not think we will see the set released this year. As mentioned before, I fervently hope that Lego does a 6 month (or more) pre-order period to cut down on the release day hysteria.  
    Here's a fun question: is BB-8 even a UCS set? It includes a plaque, but the leaked box does not feature a badge, and if the set is a regular retail set rather than a D2C set it does not fit the official qualification. I certainly doubt it takes the place of the rumored falcon either way.
    There's an official qualification?

    For me, BB-8 is a Market Street.
    Bumblepantsgmonkey76SumoLegowardmJohnyk668FollowsCloselyJern92
  • bluedragonbluedragon Member Posts: 506
    Then it is a UCS?!?!
    wardm
  • Stvoyager04Stvoyager04 Member Posts: 120
    I think to a certain point in time it's debatable which sets are UCS, since there was no "official" Lego policy or position on the matter.

    Now that Lego have (seemingly) realised that the community wants to know if sets are UCS or not they are putting it on the box, which really should end the debate (for new sets anyway). Some are play sets some are display sets, and we'll have to live with that. It's not the way I'd go, but hey, it's not my product. 

    Anyway the point is if you want a set, can afford it and have somewhere to put it, then buy it, otherwise don't. 
    Bengh_Zeran
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    edited July 2017
    Matt89190 said:
    So BB-8 is a modular.... (leaves quietly to let them fight...>:) )
    If it has friction pins, it must be a UCS Creator Modular.

    And I think Lego has beem very clear in their aggresive apathy when it comes to the collector market.  If it sells more product, then slap on the label.  If it isn't going to affect sales, then leave it off.
    gmonkey76pharmjod
  • LyichirLyichir Member Posts: 1,018
    SumoLego said:
    Matt89190 said:
    So BB-8 is a modular.... (leaves quietly to let them fight...>:) )
    If it has friction pins, it must be a UCS Creator Modular.

    And I think Lego has beem very clear in their aggresive apathy when it comes to the collector market.  If it sells more product, then slap on the label.  If it isn't going to affect sales, then leave it off.
    I don't think it's quite like that. Every Star Wars D2C set since the Sandcrawler has had a UCS badge, every non-D2C Star Wars set hasn't. It's not a matter of them adding it to typical retail sets to sell more product or anything like that—they've just finally standardized what was formerly an inconsistently applied label.
    Aanchir
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    edited July 2017
    Lyichir said:
    SumoLego said:
    Matt89190 said:
    So BB-8 is a modular.... (leaves quietly to let them fight...>:) )
    If it has friction pins, it must be a UCS Creator Modular.

    And I think Lego has beem very clear in their aggresive apathy when it comes to the collector market.  If it sells more product, then slap on the label.  If it isn't going to affect sales, then leave it off.
    I don't think it's quite like that. Every Star Wars D2C set since the Sandcrawler has had a UCS badge, every non-D2C Star Wars set hasn't. It's not a matter of them adding it to typical retail sets to sell more product or anything like that—they've just finally standardized what was formerly an inconsistently applied label.
    Yep, ever since the Sandcrawler the definition of UCS has been both simple and consistent: "If it's Star Wars and it's D2C, then it's UCS". In a sense, UCS is to Star Wars what Expert is to Creator.

    Mind you, there's no reason LEGO couldn't change that definition, since ultimately it's just branding, but currently there's not really any ambiguity about how the term UCS applies to current sets.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,791
    Whew.. for a minute there with 19 new comments I thought there was some actual news about the UCS Falcon. Mercifully it was just more jibber jabber.
    gmonkey76
  • Legopassion8Legopassion8 Member Posts: 1,181
    Any new MF(ing) UCS  news today ?????


  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,370
    Legopassion8 said:
    Any new MF(ing) UCS  news today ?????


    Nope :(

    I wake up every day and see this thread has 10 new replies.. only to find nothing :) 
  • flordflord Member Posts: 797
    madforLEGO said:
    Whew.. for a minute there with 19 new comments I thought there was some actual news about the UCS Falcon. Mercifully it was just more jibber jabber.
    Jibber Jabber should be the name of this forum.

    And I would have no problem with that.
    BartelasSumoLego
  • waynlewiswaynlewis Member Posts: 86
    Hopefully there will be some news from Comic Con soon
  • flakmaniakflakmaniak Member Posts: 50
    CM4S said:
    Legopassion8 said:
    Any new MF(ing) UCS  news today ?????


    Nope :(

    I wake up every day and see this thread has 10 new replies.. only to find nothing :) 
    See that's the thing; you can tell by the number of new posts alone that there hasn't been an announcement. If there were, the thread would have exploded and there would be hundreds of new posts.

    But regardless, if there is going to be an announcement, that September "something big" would probably be it, I'd guess.
    sid3windrBumblepantsfourstud
  • LobotLobot Member Posts: 1,029

    HD images of the new wave have surfaced..... 

    BB-8 looks rather cute, but the rest are an easy pass.

    fourstud
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,370
    BB-8 has grown on me. But I plan on getting 75176 and 75189, not sure I'll have money after that! 

    Does anyone know the final US prices?
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    I have a bit of a thing for Rey, so I'll deffo be getting the new Constraction figure. I'm hoping for another smallish vehicle for her in the new film, to give me something to build to scale. The MF would be just a teensy bit big at Constraction scale...
    fourstudbandit778AanchirGalactus
  • MrKettleMrKettle Member Posts: 137
    BB-8 looks great to me and will sit along side my R2-D2, as for the rest of them, well I'll just have to wait until the movie Ian out before I decide on them. 
  • Matt89190Matt89190 Member Posts: 307
    BB-8 is great, but if I got him I'd need and R2....
    The only other set I like is the Resisitance Bomber - a beautifully armed craft that actually comes with a full crew! The FO Walkers, however, are hideous....
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    my god there's a real chat about lego going on here.

    just to add, i plan on getting BB-8 my self as well.
    wish i had R2-D2 as well but i not paying the price that being asked for him now.
    don't know about the other star wars set's yet. i know there are some good looking model's but it all come down to price. BB-8 is a will buy as soon as he is sub 20% off RRP. to buy all the lego i wish to buy i have to get stuff under RRP.
    waynlewiscatwrangler
  • Matt89190Matt89190 Member Posts: 307
    chrisalddin said:
    my god there's a real chat about lego going on here.
    Yeah, but it's not about a UCS Falcon, so don't worry! God forbid we actually go on topic! :P
    Bobflip
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    Matt89190 said:
    chrisalddin said:
    my god there's a real chat about lego going on here.
    Yeah, but it's not about a UCS Falcon, so don't worry! God forbid we actually go on topic! :P
    true that.
    oh and looking at the set's again for the new movie there is only 1 that i dont feel a need to own. grrrr. ware am i going to find the cash to buy them all. well the last week been good for me i got 19 sets of my to buy list. and added 7 more. :/
  • Matt89190Matt89190 Member Posts: 307
    After trawling through last year's Death Star thread, I noticed @CapnRex101 knew stuff this time last year? Anything you want to share with us this time around? :)
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 Administrator Posts: 2,364
    @Matt89190 - I have been aware of a new UCS Millennium Falcon since the beginning of 2016 but know very few details about its design so honestly don't have anything to share, even if I wanted to.

    We will all find out on the 1st of September!
    fourstudnwr122Matt89190SeanTheCollectorFollowsCloselyAdeelZubairomnium
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Member Posts: 5,481
    ^ So that's a "Yes, it exists." then?
    SumoLegofourstudbobabricks
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    CapnRex101 said:
    @Matt89190 - I have been aware of a new UCS Millennium Falcon since the beginning of 2016 but know very few details about its design so honestly don't have anything to share, even if I wanted to.

    We will all find out on the 1st of September!
    Huh.  What does 'aware' mean?  More importantly, I suppose knowing any design details would indicate that it does exist.

    I better clear some shelf space!
    fourstudwaynlewis
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