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UCS falcon rumours (that turned out to be true!)

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  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 644
    New feature Confirmed: Exploding interior!
    stluxmonstblitzPitfall69gmonkey76VorpalRyu
  • nexandernexander Glasgow Member Posts: 898
    I expect the next designer video to have them doing 'exploding' gestures, more proof its real and coming!
    stluxPitfall69gmonkey76VorpalRyu
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,162
    Going a little bit on topic (I know, I'm sorry), the one thing I would really like them to change on a new version would be the way the Engines are put together.
    The original #10179 rigging and trans-blue tiled engine build always looked a bit clunky to me and was to my mind one of the worst aspects of the original.
    Something along the lines of the modifications Scottishdave on E.B. put together would be good as that is probably one of the best mods I've seen for the original set.
    Now back to where we were.
    stluxFollowsCloselyPitfall69snowhitiegmonkey76SumoLegoVorpalRyucatwrangler
  • MAGNINOMINISUMBRAMAGNINOMINISUMBRA Member Posts: 993
    Strange that with all this talk of explosions and Death Star box tops.... No one has commented on the Falcon itself?  Particularly the amount of 2017 parts on it (and one recoloured part that we've only seen so far in the Saturn V). 
  • monstblitzmonstblitz Alexandria, VAMember Posts: 622
    Ok let's be real: If I were to bet money today, I would put my money on "no new UCS Millennium Falcon is announced within a year." People want it to happen, and so they believe. The website evidence was something, but as the days go by I put the odds lower and lower.
    I'm starting to agree with this.  Going over to that other place where these rumors seem to have originated, it's starting to sound a little desperate.  More just throwing it at the wall so that the year it comes true people can claim they had inside knowledge.  But then again, what do I know.  There do seem to be users both on that board and this board who have correctly predicted things in the past. 
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 6,566
    If they are ever going to do it, right before a new film which features the Falcon prominently is the perfect time. I still think it is more likely than not. Something UCS is due to come out in the Fall and it is difficult to think of much else that would sell better. Lego would also get tons of publicity and hype outside the normal channels right as the holiday shopping season gets rolling.
    catwrangler
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 644
    I would like to extend my applause to @CM4S for successfully tricking several members of that other forum with his quality fake. appearently your Flickr post needs a disclaimer to the fake status.
    CM4Sgmonkey76
  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,363
    I would like to extend my applause to @CM4S for successfully tricking several members of that other forum with his quality fake. appearently your Flickr post needs a disclaimer to the fake status.
    Yikes, people are saying the render is bad.. not sure how it can be "bad" Bluerender is pretty good and it looks really real to me! I purposely slacked on the cockpit :)
    catwrangler
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    I would like to extend my applause to @CM4S for successfully tricking several members of that other forum with his quality fake. appearently your Flickr post needs a disclaimer to the fake status.
    But they still have a better discussion than we do, so...

    Speaking of which someone there said you got close with the piece count @CM4S
    CM4S
  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,363
    SMC said:
    I would like to extend my applause to @CM4S for successfully tricking several members of that other forum with his quality fake. appearently your Flickr post needs a disclaimer to the fake status.
    But they still have a better discussion than we do, so...

    Speaking of which someone there said you got close with the piece count @CM4S
    Good ol' Banjo... always leavin hints! :) 
    SMC
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    I would be very pleased if that is the case. Fairly close must mean you got the first number right, if so that's a lot more than 10179. I cant see how there can be that many more unless there is an secondary build or an interior.  
    kwkw
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,279
    edited June 2017
    Pitfall69 said:
    SumoLego: I have 16,000 likes
    Pitfall69: Yeah, well.. I have 14,000 likes and 2,000 explosions!!!
    How are we counting explosions!?!?!?! 
    (And it is 15,838, get your facts straight!)
    SMC said:
    But they still have a better discussion than we do, so...
    At what point does one figure out that this really isn't a discussion, it's just rampant speculation with sprinkled bits of secondary 'evidence'.  And explosions.  And graveyards of destroyed SW vehicles.
    dougtsMynattgmonkey76stluxVorpalRyuGoldchainsdatsunrobbieDedgeckokiki180703
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    ^ Its only that because that is what we made it. Much like Lego it can be what ever we want it to be.

    And the designer video was primary evidence.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,279
    ^ The design video is 'Primary' evidence of a cardboard space slug?  Of designers playing around with a mini-scale Millenium Falcon?

    What we really mean is 'direct' vs. 'circumstantial' evidence.

    Direct evidence would be a press release including words to this effect: "The Lego Group proudly announces the UCS Millenium Falcon available in November 2017."

    Circumstantial evidence would be Lego designers playing with cardboard cut outs and you implying that it is related to a future set release.
    gmonkey76VorpalRyumonstblitz
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    SumoLego said:
    ^ The design video is 'Primary' evidence of a cardboard space slug?
    Well either its evidence of a cardboard space slug and a cardboard Minecraft hat.

    Or

    Its evidence of a Minecraft D2C and a Star Wars D2C

    Given this fits with the eurobricks rumour of a new UCS MF with figures based around this scene and the Minecraft D2C we have seen in a press release I think its safe to assume the next design video will not be a UCS cardboard space slug.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,279
    You could make the same argument for a UCS Space Slug, based on the same circumstantial evidence.

    Or it could just be two designers playing with cardboard cut-outs.

    And if the 'rumour' is based on two designers playing with carboard cut-outs, that's speculation.
    pharmjodRainstorm26gmonkey76MynattVorpalRyudatsunrobbiekiki180703
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    SMC said:
    Given this fits with the eurobricks rumour of a new UCS MF with figures based around this scene.
    Like I pointed out if you read my whole comment the design video fitted perfectly with the original rumour.
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    edited June 2017
    We also had this didn't we?
    stlux said:

    TLG is either massively trolling the AFOL community, or that's the first actual credible confirmation a new UCS MF is coming.



    So we had a rumour that came from a mod on eurobricks, others have suggested the same.

    We had a coming soon page on Lego.com

    We had a clue in the designer video.

    At what point will you stop disrupting this discussion and allow us to talk about what could well be the biggest Lego set ever.

    If you want to post silly pictures then there is an off topic section to this forum.

    SumoLego said:

    At what point does one figure out that this really isn't a discussion, it's just rampant speculation with sprinkled bits of secondary 'evidence'.  And explosions.  And graveyards of destroyed SW vehicles.
     
    SMC said:
    ^ Its only that because that is what we made it. Much like Lego it can be what ever we want it to be.
    Its also true to say its only like that because that is what the moderators allow it to be. @Huw @CapnRex101 @drdavewatford @Matthew (If they allowed meme's then it would be full of them too).




  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,363
    SMC said:

     what could well be the biggest Lego set ever.

    It's roughly 7500 pieces so yes, it will be.
    SMCgmonkey76SeanTheCollectorMrKettlekiki180703
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,279
    edited June 2017
    ^^^ Okay, so let's examine that rumor.  What kind of credibility can you give a rumor that predicts some combination of Han, Chewie, C-3PO and Leia?

    That's the minifigure lineup for #4504 (sans an 'Assault on Hoth' snowtrooper).

    Frankly, I think the only information that is not clearly speculation is the screenshot of the Lego Retail Store, and the [email protected] search page.

    (This thread ought to be renamed: 'UCS MF Speculation and Circumstantial Evidence')

    And thank you for sharing the identities of the moderators.  I think I now have direct evidence to identify them.

    And as the Forum Fuzz, shouldn't you be busy chastising those members posting false rumors?  Doesn't that defeat the discussion in this thread?
    stluxMuftak1sid3windr
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    edited June 2017
    CM4S said:
    SMC said:

     what could well be the biggest Lego set ever.

    It's roughly 7500 pieces so yes, it will be.

    Thanks mate and I say mate because you have brought a lot to this forum and its much appreciated by me and I am sure a lot of other bricksetters too.
    MrKettle
  • UberbrickUberbrick OregonMember Posts: 83
    If/when the "real" UCS MF comes out, this thread's activity will drop like a stone :)
    SumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,279
    I think it has already run its course.  But I'm sure someone will post the actual box or find some other tidbit of circumstantial evidence.

    (It's just as likely the designer video has to do with the miniature Space Slug set.  Who knows?)
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,603
    ^ or it will turn into why are there stickers/why were these minifigures included/why.... 

    Or there will be a few people going back and forth saying they are right and we shouldn't do this or that.
    SumoLegostluxkiki180703
  • Rainstorm26Rainstorm26 Chicago Burbs USA (and sometimes Ireland)Member Posts: 1,004
    Where's McCutchen when you need him to improve the tone and humor of a thread.
    SumoLegogmonkey76BumblepantsPitfall69kiki180703
  • Rainstorm26Rainstorm26 Chicago Burbs USA (and sometimes Ireland)Member Posts: 1,004
    ^Well said.
    Pitfall69Mynattkiki180703
  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,363
    ^^ I love it! Great post

    Pitfall69Mynattkiki180703
  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 869
    CM4S said:
    ^^ I love it! Great post

    I agree as well.  My only regret is the lack of a picture to also incorporate in my response to a quote. 

    This thread  is the natural successor to the best thread to ever exist on any message board since the dawn of time (or at least the Internet).  Nothing quite beats the heady mix of rampant speculation, real money, and ABS :).
    dougtsMuftak1nicoyagomezSumoLegoMynattPitfall69kiki180703
  • Muftak1Muftak1 Somewhere cold, probably raining (aka Ireland)Member Posts: 515
    CM4S said:
    ^^ I love it! Great post

    I agree as well.  My only regret is the lack of a picture to also incorporate in my response to a quote. 

    This thread  is the natural successor to the best thread to ever exist on any message board since the dawn of time (or at least the Internet).  Nothing quite beats the heady mix of rampant speculation, real money, and ABS :).
    What was the best thread?
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,872
    At this point, I'm starting to expect TLG to troll us all and come out with a press release in October, saying 'UCS MF, available tomorrow!'.

    Or just put it on shelves in the stores without doing a press release, and watch the fan forums explode.
    pharmjodcatwrangler
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 6,566
    So if the BB-8 model mentioned in the General Star Wars thread is correct, that certainly dampens the possibility of a Falcon UCS doesn't it?
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    ^ No BB-8 is just a normal set I believe not a D2C. 
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 6,566
    Ok so it is considered Last Jedi set then? Makes sense.
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    It is set number 75187 and 88, 89, 90 are all Last Jedi sets so think it is part of that range.
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,360
    Possible, OTOH UCS sets don't really get a "special" set number. And haven't the sculptures always been D2C/UCS in the past? This BB-8 is on the lower end of piece count for a sculpture of course. Still hard to imagine seeing it on the shelf of my local supermarket.

    So, this #75187 BB-8 might dash any hopes for a new UCS MF this year. Or not.
    gmonkey76
  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,363
    CM4S said:
    SMC said:

     what could well be the biggest Lego set ever.

    It's roughly 7500 pieces so yes, it will be.
    I'd just like to say that this was said by Tragic Banjo on Eurobricks in response to my fake box (the piece count was close) NOT first said by me
  • SithLord196SithLord196 Member Posts: 1,160
    I think the designer video is a hint towards something, but I sort of feel like it could just as much be a UCS TIE Bomber as it could be a new UCS Millennium Falcon. 
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    Considering the apparently poor sales and deep discounts of the UCS TIE fighter, I would doubt LEGO is anxious to jump into a UCS TIE Bomber 
    Bumblepants
  • Gooker1Gooker1 Member Posts: 598
    dougts said:
    Considering the apparently poor sales and deep discounts of the UCS TIE fighter, I would doubt LEGO is anxious to jump into a UCS TIE Bomber 

    Which is crazy to me.  I really enjoyed the UCS TIE.  

    Made too many of them or just not super popular?
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 644
    I think they lost some interest in it due to the scale, it being larger than minifig scale. same thing cursed the Delta fighter. both models are very nice but the over sized scale doesn't work well with many other ships.
  • mustang69mustang69 North CarolinaMember Posts: 492
    I really enjoyed building my UCS Tie and it makes a great companion piece to my UCS X-wing (the original).
  • cavegodcavegod Member Posts: 806
    my reliable contact says the Falcon will be around 4000 parts and a smoother version of 10179 plus available November.
    florddougtsBumblepantsLobotkiki180703
  • Rainstorm26Rainstorm26 Chicago Burbs USA (and sometimes Ireland)Member Posts: 1,004
    If that is true it won't drop the value of the original as much due to the lower part count and most likely size.
  • waynlewiswaynlewis USAMember Posts: 86
    Well whenever it comes out, I hope Lego takes notes of the fiasco that is the Saturn V set. Sold out online within hours, site crashes, ordering lines down, sold out in Lego stores and other retailers, etc... Imagine the mess a UCS MF would cause. Hopefully TLG would rethink the launch and offer a pre-order and a strict limit quantity.
  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,363
    Ok well Tragic Banjo just said you were wrong. Your reliable source ain't so reliable I guess 
  • Russ_HannemanRuss_Hanneman Palo AltoMember Posts: 16
    cavegod said:
    my reliable contact says the Falcon will be around 4000 parts and a smoother version of 10179 plus available November.
    There's no way it could be that low, provided the cost is in fact $800. That would be a per piece price of $0.20, which is insane
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,922
    CM4S said:
    Ok well Tragic Banjo just said you were wrong. Your reliable source ain't so reliable I guess 
    Well Tragic Banjo said:

    "No. Brickset forums are good for a laugh every now and then, but useless if you want real information."
    CM4S
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