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  • BooTheMightyHamsterBooTheMightyHamster Northern edge of London, just before the dragons...Member Posts: 1,320
    ?

    CM4S.  I have to confess I'm not familiar with her / him.  Should I be?
  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 867
    There's enough smoke around this particular rumor that I have to think there is truth to it.
  • FireheartFireheart Suffolk, UKMember Posts: 593
    Anyone else noticed eBay had quite a few 10019 Blockade Runners popping up, either mint or MISB
    Are we hoping for a UCS MF. When others are thinking UCS Blockade Runner?
  • kizkizkizkiz londonMember Posts: 95
    Fireheart said:
    Anyone else noticed eBay had quite a few 10019 Blockade Runners popping up, either mint or MISB
    Are we hoping for a UCS MF. When others are thinking UCS Blockade Runner?
    The lepin blockade runner was out a few weeks ago. Could be a reaction to that
    Switchfoot55
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 788
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    CM4S.  I have to confess I'm not familiar with her / him.  Should I be?
    Yes.

    He's been extremely reliable in the past. I would trust him with leaks more than any other.

    Now whether or not the UCS Falcon 2017 rumor is just becoming more convoluted, or actually gaining traction, no one know but those within the rumor mill.
    gmonkey76
  • adiemcadiemc UKMember Posts: 518
    Snowspeeder announcement on social media. No price as yet. 
    https://www.facebook.com/LEGO/posts/10154538358293403
    CM4SFireheart
  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,345
    Should be $199.99 

    As shared by others ;)
    adiemc
  • samiam391samiam391 A Log Cabin in KY, United StatesMember Posts: 4,328
    Wow! Incredible! 14 years later and it looks...

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    ...almost exactly the same.

    Image result for lego snowspeeder ucs

    ... has LEGO really become that bland that they can't come up with new UCS Star Wars sets? These blatant rehashes are getting old.
    prevereSumoLego
  • adiemcadiemc UKMember Posts: 518
    edited March 2017
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,898
    If only I had comparable-sized AT-AT to display by the UCS Snowspeeder.
    LegoboyMaffyDcatwrangler
  • samiam391samiam391 A Log Cabin in KY, United StatesMember Posts: 4,328
    ^^ Seems like 14 years is quite a long gap. Probably a lot of new SW collectors in that time who would quite like a Snowspeeder to add to their display shelves. 
    As someone that has been around in LEGO for roughly that long, I'm choosing to be selfishly bitter. ;) For those of us that have been around for awhile seeing rehashes of classics when there are so many other incredible options is disheartening.

    For those that haven't been around having the opportunity is great... I'll keep my disgruntled rumblings to a minimum to avoid stealing from their glory moment :)
    SumoLegopharmjodLegoboy
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,939
    samiam391 said:
    Wow! Incredible! 14 years later and it looks...

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    ...almost exactly the same.

    Image result for lego snowspeeder ucs

    ... has LEGO really become that bland that they can't come up with new UCS Star Wars sets? These blatant rehashes are getting old.
    Only for people that already had them. There are a few elusive OT vehicles not given the UCS treatment (AT-AT please!, but could they make one big enough to meet expectations without being ridiculously fragile?), but I doubt Lego are keen to get their fingers burnt with a PT set that may not interest the target market, is it too early to do Ep7 or Rogue One UCS sets?

    I think the new Snowspeeder looks a fair bit better than the old one, it has had some work put into it. If we get nothing truly new, i'm hoping for an ISD soon!
    gmonkey76pharmjod
  • ChubblesChubbles USAMember Posts: 459
    skipping last years UCS makes skipping this one that much easier
  • BuriedinBricksBuriedinBricks USAMember Posts: 1,367
    I don't get those saying it looks just like the old one. The canopies are totally different construction methods and the nose proportions are far more movie accurate. I don't think the laser batteries stick out as far as they should in front, but they still look good. I also think the mechanical features on the harpoon gun and lifting panels are pretty cool (have never built the first one, so don't know if those features were present there)

    I know re-hashes are unpopular among the long-term AFOL population. However, I'd be willing to bet there are a ton of people in the hobby who were not collecting 14 years ago who are now very happy to have a chance to get a version of this iconic ship at a reasonable price.
    monkeyhangerBumblepantsgmonkey76Werewolf_poodougtsA.Brickovskybgl_84Lyichircatwrangler
  • ecmo47ecmo47 North CarolinaMember Posts: 2,101
    It's all the exposed studs. We have been getting spoiled with many models having a very limited amount of studs like the Imperial Shuttle and Slave 1 so we are used to the smoother surface. This model does have a bunch of improvements but all I can see is the rough texture.
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,263
    iso3200 said:
    Given the reference material is a Snowspeeder.... it's always going to look remarkably the same isn't it? 
    This is what I was thinking.  It is a white snowspeeder so of course its going to look like the last one.  But the build appears to be significantly different.
    gmonkey76Bumblepants
  • LobotLobot UKMember Posts: 971

    That's beautiful - one for my collection!

    I noticed that the article states a UK cost of £169.99 which is £10 below both the UCS TIE and Slave 1.  I assume that's an error and will be corrected before it goes on sale?

  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,113
    edited March 2017
    Really looking forward to this as I'm in the 'missed this' category of collectors and I actually think they have done a good job of getting the lines right for the front end.
    My only wish is that the front of the canopy is printed and not stickers, not that I have anything against them normally but I do hate sticking them on transparent parts as they are a lot less forgiving than normal bricks or plates if I fudge it up and the front of that canopy is going to be really visible if I do.
    gmonkey76Werewolf_poo
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,113

    Double post, but just watched the designer video and disappointingly the front of the canopy isn't printed. 

    I must admit that on a high cost set like this it seems a bit crap especially after the beautiful job they did of printing the canopy on the latest Y-Wing.  :(

  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,898
    I'm interested, but I will wait for some discounts, just like the TIE. 
  • Werewolf_pooWerewolf_poo Bonnie ScotlandMember Posts: 71
    I missed out on the first snowspeeder so I am buzzing for this one. My £70 worth of Lego points have been getting saved for this set for nearly a year now. The amount of moaning on here tho is pretty breath taking. I love it.

    All I need now is for TLG to confirm the UCS millennium falcon and I will be over the moon. 
  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,465
    I like it but it's too expensive. I think the silent mary is the same price, and looks more substantial and it's still expensive.
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 788
    When we realize that Lego is redoing older exclusive sets in order to appeal to the newfound FOLs that exploded out of the Lego Movie phenomenon.

    As someone who hadn't picked up the original Snowspeeder, and is someone who is in love with that particular speeder, I'm excited that this thing is coming.
    omniumcatwrangler
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,709
    Penkid11 said:
    When we realize that Lego is redoing older exclusive sets in order to appeal to the newfound FOLs that exploded out of the Lego Movie phenomenon.

    It's not just the Lego movie. It is time too.  There are many AFOLs now that will buy this that were not fans of TLM or AFOLs 15 years ago, or couldn't afford the original back then.

    stluxBumblepantsomniumPenkid11SumoLegomessy
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,330
    bandit778 said:

    Double post, but just watched the designer video and disappointingly the front of the canopy isn't printed. 

    I must admit that on a high cost set like this it seems a bit crap especially after the beautiful job they did of printing the canopy on the latest Y-Wing.  :(

    Whilst I also prefer printed over stickers, the set designers have only a limited number of new elements they can introduce in a set. The brief to the set designer will say how many new elements can be introduced - if any at all. A UCS set might actually have a lower allocation than a mass-market one as TLG will expect to sell 10,000's of units of the new UCS Snowspeeder vs a lot more Y-wings. The new mold might not pay for itself with a low production run. Or in case of a new print on an existing element, TLG might not deem it worthwhile to allocate time on the printer in Kladno.
    E.g. in a recent interview Marcos Bessa mentioned that for #71040 Disney Castle he was allocated 1 new element slot, which he used for Tinkerbell's hair.

    Not that I wouldn't prefer TLG to allocate more new elements/prints to UCS models. It might just have a more significant impact on the price than we think.
    CM4SYodalicious
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,709
    stlux said:
    Or in case of a new print on an existing element, TLG might not deem it worthwhile to allocate time on the printer in Kladno.

    Not that I wouldn't prefer TLG to allocate more new elements/prints to UCS models. It might just have a more significant impact on the price than we think.
    It would be interesting to know what the real costs of, say, having one important piece printed are, and then see whether this is true, or whether it is just LEGO penny pinching not really caring too much about the quality of their product as people will accept stickers anyway. On something this price, I'm sure many people would pay an extra quid for a printed canopy instead of having a crappy sticker that is difficult to put on exactly straight, you can see the edges and will probably peel in future.
    dougtsSumoLegocatwrangler
  • sonsofscevasonsofsceva 1904 World's FairMember Posts: 542
    edited March 2017
    ^ I am wondering what about their block printing process might be different from, say, MBlocks, in which nearly everything is printed in my (albeit, very limited) experience. Are the blocks they make so much cheaper than LEGO blocks that they can still gain profit despite the expense of printing?

    Nice set, but when the designer held up that giant sheet of stickers, I cringed. Especially the fact plates. Those will not get worn from play, so I really don't get the giant sticker. They even got it slightly crooked in the video!
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    I don't understand the white. What's the point of designing the model to so closely resemble the movie prop and then using the wrong color?
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,562
    If everybody who was disappointed with stickers actually refused to buy the set, Lego might decide to only use printed parts. Instead, people complain and buy at least one copy, if not several copies, of the set, effectively telling Lego that, while there is room for improvement, stickers are actually not a deal-breaker.
    catwrangler
  • blogzillyblogzilly Columbus, OhioMember Posts: 598
    I really love it, however I will likely modify it with just a few tiles to SNOT it up a little. Not completely because I dig a little mix, but I think it has a few too many exposed studs.

    But am very excited to get it. But then again I am pretty easy to please...
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,766
    What i find laughable about the video is that LEGO now appear to be promoting stickers.  Or at least the sticker guy!?

    "Look, here is the guy that designs the stickers because I can't bring the detail into the build design and my boss refuses to print them"

    Good job LEGO.
    Mynattbandit778Bumblepantsmonkeyhangergmonkey76kezSumoLegocatwranglerDedgecko
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,562
    edited March 2017
    ^"Look, here's the guy that designs the stickers to add details that would otherwise have been entirely absent, since printing for those parts would have increased the retail price by 50%*."

    *No, I don't have any source for that markup, but I have not seen anything from TLG to suggest it is not correct.
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,113
    @stlux
    I honestly do appreciate that the cost on a new part to be printed might be above what  TLG wanted to include in the set. I just really hate sticking stickers on transparent parts. Being an old git I have to be grumpy about something. Today the stickers were it. ;)
    stluxmonkeyhangergmonkey76
  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,465
    is 200€ now the minimum price for an UCS? if #10215 obi wan's jedi starfighter were released now, it would cost 200€ too?
  • GIR3691GIR3691 Member Posts: 665
    It's still the wrong color.
    CM4Sbinaryeyesonsofsceva
  • xwingpilotxwingpilot UKMember Posts: 797
    I'm torn...

    On the one hand it's an amazing looking set - movie accurate and a worthy successor to #10129. On the other hand I can't help thinking that it's quite a small vehicle in-universe, and doesn't really warrant a set at this scale. It's also not a starfighter.

    I just can't decide right now...


  • MynattMynatt OH/NYMember Posts: 584
    I think that the set looks great and most certainly will be picking one up. I have always been a fan of the snow speeder and never had ended up getting the first one. The only upset to me is all of the stickers.

    If there was one thing that I wish could be changed for all UCS sets was that if they could have the large tile with all the information to be printed with it rather than have it be a sticker. 
    sonsofsceva
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 2,775
    Not a spaceship, not bothered :-) It does look good though, despite the sticker thing.
    Boomstick
  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,465
    taking a quick look at the various UCS, it even looks like one of the best looking ones, actually. though probably still less than the imperial shuttle.
  • lfty888lfty888 PhilippinesMember Posts: 13
    Oh well...... still will be lining up to getting one when April 28 rolls along (VIP)...... :)
  • Addicted2OxygenAddicted2Oxygen Somewhere behind all the boxes of LegoMember Posts: 386
    The snowspeeder looks great. My concern with it is the use of rubber bands.

    How vital are they to the final build? I.e. When they perish and there are no suitable replacements what happens to the model? What bit falls down?

    Had this issue with my droideka whose structural integrity relies on bands. Luckily the spares were still ok, but once this set perishes I will no longer be able to display it and use it. So I am rather paranoid about Lego sets that use bands. 
    monkeyhanger
  • xwingpilotxwingpilot UKMember Posts: 797
    ^ My concern exactly. I can't believe there wasn't a better way to achieve that angle on a non-moving part.
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,285
    @Addicted2Oxygen - The rubber bands are used to angle the armour on the underside of the model, albeit only slightly. They support very little weight so I think the risk of degradation is reasonably low. However, if they did fail then it would make no difference to the structural integrity of the model and the visible change would be very subtle.

    The Brickset review is coming up on Sunday.
    monkeyhanger
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,562
    Luckily, replacement rubber bands are cheap, and easy to find in the "hair care" section at Walgreens.

    https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/super-stretch-rubber-bands/ID=prod6031149-product?skuId=sku6029707

    Even better are the cloth-covered ones, they seem to hold up forever.

  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,939
    If the bands are covered then they'll last a very long time. It is usually UV exposure that knacks elastic bands. Maybe someone will find a brick based alternative, someone usually finds a way to improve TLG's work (like the improved UCS X-Wing nose).
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