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  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    pharmjod said:
    @sumolego That's one of the more random things you've posted here and that's saying something =)
    I think people put too much emphasis on things like film titles.  Am I going to avoid watching Episode VIII, if the subtitle were:  

    Episode VIII: Chewie Likes Cheese
    Episode VIII: This Ticket is $25.00
    Episode VIII:  Luke vs. the Flowbee

    But I still want to know how it went from Luke's severed hand, down the chute on Cloud City, to Obi-Wan's chest in Maz's basement.  Bizarre!

    Mynatt
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    gmonkey76 said:
    CapnRex101 said:
    I am more interested in the fact that the 'Star Wars' logo is red on the poster, reflecting the designs from Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith. 

    Black Hoodie, standing by!
    gmonkey76BumblepantsdavetheoxygenmanGoldchainsMynatt
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    Luke is the last Jedi. Don't get all this Rey and Finn speculation.
    Jackad7
  • MaffyDMaffyD Member Posts: 3,576
    ^ I understand that I'm pointing out the obvious, but when you get the Internet and Star Wars together, speculation is one of three things that you automatically get. I'll leave the other two things as a exercise for other forum members :-)
  • PatsyWalkerPatsyWalker Member Posts: 83
    Any source to the rumour that this year's Star Wars Advent is Ep 7/8 related with a Santa BB-8?

    Saw someone mention this elsewhere.
    fourstud
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,728
    ^Yeah it was visible in the leaks on Reddit.
    fourstud
  • Addicted2OxygenAddicted2Oxygen Member Posts: 470
    IMO It looks a little disappointing. 

    This talk of star wars advent calendars has reminded me of something about the last one #75146. Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but what is going on with the desert skiff in the official product shot.



    Looks like no one knew what it was supposed to be....
    Galactus
  • DEAD1974DEAD1974 Member Posts: 23
    New Summer sets images are online... honestly I only like 75183 Darths Vader Transfiormation... The 75180 Rathtar escape looks a bit strange, but who knows maybe it will turn out as good set. The rest is a pass for me.
  • GremerGremer Member Posts: 183
    I like the Transformation, Fighter Tank, and Bounty Hunter Battle Pack. I might get the Quadjumper too. Rathtar Escape seems like it might be cool, but I'm going to wait for better pictures before I decide.
  • willp2003willp2003 Member Posts: 88
    The scout trooper speeder bike looks great. Bounty hunter pack is an easy buy.
  • DEAD1974DEAD1974 Member Posts: 23
    yes from the blurry picture it looks like the face from scary movie :)
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,378
    The Rathtar set doesn't look too good so far but hopefully LEGO will keep showing the sets at Toy Fairs 
    Mynatt
  • flordflord Member Posts: 797
    Nuremburg is next weekend right? New York is two weeks after that.
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,378
    flord said:
    Nuremburg is next weekend right? New York is two weeks after that.
    It's in 2-3 days so believe 
  • DEAD1974DEAD1974 Member Posts: 23
    does anyone of you noticed that Millenium Falcon UCS is nowadays almost everywhere on ebay?
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,378
    DEAD1974 said:
    does anyone of you noticed that Millenium Falcon UCS is nowadays almost everywhere on ebay?
    People wanna make as much money off of it before the new one comes out and the value plummets 
    SumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    Skeptical Guy says... 'Where is the rash of sellers looking to unload their UCS Snowspeeders?'

    (And as an owner of a UCS MF that hasn't left the shipping box directly from Lego, I can't wait until the purported re-release.)
    gmonkey76MaffyDMAGNINOMINISUMBRA
  • DEAD1974DEAD1974 Member Posts: 23
    CM4S said:
    DEAD1974 said:
    does anyone of you noticed that Millenium Falcon UCS is nowadays almost everywhere on ebay?
    People wanna make as much money off of it before the new one comes out and the value plummets 
    this is the same in every kind of collecting... so why do people collect things ???? for own happiness or only for money... something is wrong
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    edited January 2017
    UCS Falcons are getting dumped (maybe not quite the right word), but what I mean is sellers who thought they would appreciate forever are gradually hearing the rumours about the new UCS Falcon and are panicking. I fully expect a lot more to start landing on eBay over the next few months. The ceiling has long gone.
  • Jackad7Jackad7 Member Posts: 555
    Ahhh the smell of fear, the speculators are ripe with it.

    Ok on a more serious note do you think we'll see the Knights of Ren in episode 8? I wasnt a big fan of TFA for a variety of reasons but I really liked the knights of ren and if they have real roles in the movie they'll probably be in some sets.  >:)

  • MaffyDMaffyD Member Posts: 3,576

    I'd like to see the KoR in Ep8 - I would've liked to have seen them in 7 TBH but you can't fit everything into 1 film (although I think they could've made Captain Phasma a bit better). Not bothered about the Lego sets though, unless they're really good :-)

    I also can't wait for the 'new' UCS Falcon - then my wife would stop looking at my existing BNIB one as a holiday fund waiting to happen... :-)

    MAGNINOMINISUMBRA
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    The QuadJumper? Really? They are really squeezing TFA for all it's worth.

    I will be getting the Vader transformation set for sure and that is probably it.
  • FireheartFireheart Member Posts: 631
    richo said:
    UCS Falcons are getting dumped (maybe not quite the right word), but what I mean is sellers who thought they would appreciate forever are gradually hearing the rumours about the new UCS Falcon and are panicking. I fully expect a lot more to start landing on eBay over the next few months. The ceiling has long gone.
    But what will happen if the MKII 10179 isn't as good as the original? i.e. Smaller / less number of parts to keep the RRP within reason? 

    MKI 10179 "might" be the winner long term with respect to collectors. Who knows... 
  • MAGNINOMINISUMBRAMAGNINOMINISUMBRA Member Posts: 993
    ^ Hence why I'm willing to hold on to my little stack of UCS Snowspeeders for a while longer...
  • eloiasiaeloiasia Member Posts: 18
    I hope LEGO comes up with an idea of preordering any sets from the past, and once they have a good number of orders they can sort them out, I am sure they could manage that easilly if LEPIN can do so. That would be an end to that stupidity of people buying stack of sets to fill their pockets later on, ocne they become retired.
    josekalel
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,378
    eloiasia said:
    I hope LEGO comes up with an idea of preordering any sets from the past, and once they have a good number of orders they can sort them out, I am sure they could manage that easilly if LEPIN can do so. That would be an end to that stupidity of people buying stack of sets to fill their pockets later on, ocne they become retired.
    I think they'd have to remake a bunch of old mold machines and prints and all that for that to work 
    stlux
  • eloiasiaeloiasia Member Posts: 18
    Common man :) the only thing that stops them from doing it now, is to keep a demand for current sets, but with the older once it would be a good idea and profitable for sure.
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    eloiasia said:
    I hope LEGO comes up with an idea of preordering any sets from the past, and once they have a good number of orders they can sort them out, I am sure they could manage that easilly if LEPIN can do so. That would be an end to that stupidity of people buying stack of sets to fill their pockets later on, ocne they become retired.
    That would be a colossal commercial mistake of proportions I can't express in words. 
    Bumblepantsstluxgmonkey76Jackad7
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,241
    Custom ordered sets is just about the least profitable idea for Lego.

    Frankly, I'm surprised they still offer pick-a-brick and bricks-and-pieces.  Other than it being a time-filler for the folks in customer service already tasked with picking replacement parts (as a function of Lego's unmatched customer service) it's completely unprofitable and labor intensive.
    Bumblepants
  • DEAD1974DEAD1974 Member Posts: 23
    Anyone here have some more correct info if the new Lando on Reddit could be a possible part of a new or re released  Cloud City?
  • Jackad7Jackad7 Member Posts: 555
    Oh I finally found all the new set names on brickset and now I'm very excited that we get a hyperdrive ring for the second movie/Starfighter class jedi ships (already had the interceptor version). Could this possible hint at a Jango fett Slave 1 in 2018? Considering that would be much closer to the boba fett anthology movie and it would encourage kids to buy both to have theee.... fight scene? Anyway I also am really excited we have another republic fighter tank coming, assuming this is the IFTX-130, although the tag says clone wars and I don't believe the 130 was in the clone wars.
  • stluxstlux Member Posts: 2,450
    @Jackad7 The TX-130S is apparently a Republic-era tank: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TX-130_Saber-class_fighter_tank
    Doesn't seem to have made an appearance in the animated series though.
  • Jackad7Jackad7 Member Posts: 555
    Yeah I don't know what else it could be though. Really the only other mainstream tank in the clone wars was the turbo tank which it definitely isn't. Also almost immediately after posting i noticed the hyperdrive is actually an interceptor hyper drive according to the tags, which means it wont be the one from the interceptor obi-wan used to fight Jango. Confused on why that is labeled as episode two if it is indeed an interceptor hyperdrive ring. I really don't care about these small things I just like to speculate about stuff.
  • MaffyDMaffyD Member Posts: 3,576
    richo said:
    That would be a colossal commercial mistake of proportions I can't express in words. 

    When someone uses very elegant language to say that they can't find the words - that's when you know it's beyond all reasoning! :-)
    richoLyichir
  • eloiasiaeloiasia Member Posts: 18
    In my book is more like someone who can't express him self :) And to stay on the topic, once the Lego would announce sucha move ( which will probably never happen) it would be as if houndreds of resellers on this site cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
    Aerros1
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    eloiasia said:
    In my book is more like someone who can't express him self :) And to stay on the topic, once the Lego would announce sucha move ( which will probably never happen) it would be as if houndreds of resellers on this site cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
    There are some basic grammatical errors in the above passage. :-)
  • eloiasiaeloiasia Member Posts: 18
    Here he goes again, has nothing to say yet is first to comment, there is a very well  known saying in eastern world, " knock on the table and the scissors will answer" but I doubt you will ever understand.
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    edited February 2017
    eloiasia said:
    Here he goes again, has nothing to say yet is first to comment, there is a very well  known saying in eastern world, " knock on the table and the scissors will answer" but I doubt you will ever understand.
    I was responding because you were being rude to start with, like you are once again. If you have nothing useful to say, then say nothing. The proverb you use is silly and inappropriate for the situation. 

    I know I appear to have hurt your feelings by robustly dismissing your idea  to be able to back order any set ever produced, but it's just a bad idea all round and not just for resellers. It would hit desirability of all sets whilst cutting the demand for current sets significantly. 
  • eloiasiaeloiasia Member Posts: 18
    First of all, you were being rude by overstating in response to my comment without even engaging in the disusion or willing to do so and second of all I am not your typical teenager on this site so don't worry about my feelings.

    Now to stay on the topic of Star Wars let me explain a bit more of what I meant by saying preordering retired sets, so would you rather pay 2000$ or more for a new set of #10179 or pay directlly to LEGO the asking price of 500/600$? I guess you are able to type some clever sentences here so that means you are able to think consciously on your own and you would go for the second option as we all. Obviously Lego would have to introduce some kind of pattern for back ordering that means there would have to be substantial gap in between the release then the retirement of set and then finally back ordering and let's say at list 5 years between retirement and preordering the set again.
    That way Lego woud still be able to hold a demand for the current sets without loosing profit, furthermore I think they would even increase their sales by eleminating all the resellers from that chain, I know a lot of people may think that all the resellers may support sales of lego but infact  those hunters are getting their when lego sets are retiring and are sold with a discount sometimes up to 50% and would sell anyway.
    A great example is yesterday 'clone wars' here on sales uk topic, and the sale of some sets on S@H where some "collectors" were buying their never to be opened copies in significent amounts, do you thing that they would sale for that price, the answer is YES they would but insted of going to the kids who would appreciate them, most of them disapera in few seconds and will land in hand of resellers and soon with original price tag on ebay. Lego sales these sets but will not get any further profit out of them, the guys who stack them in their cupboards will. I could get into more details how they could implement these prorders into their business but it would still be " colossal commercial mistake of proportions I can't express in words" in your eyes, the eyes of reseller.
  • FireheartFireheart Member Posts: 631
    ^ It's a touchy subject, and I have been slated on some threads for stating that I am more than happy with Lego's current market strategy, of release, let people know it's going to retire, and then retire the set. Lego's sales are doing very well on this.. So why should they change?
    New sets can be brought out and the market is not oversaturated with current Lego products.

    If I want a set badly enough that was previously released and then retired (assuming I wasn't collecting at that time of release) then I am happy to pay the going rate for it. For me it's not about the cash value, but the collecting.
    There is a place in the markets for the resellers (I'm not one by the way), and the buyers will dictate the prices.. The 50% sale is for sets that haven't sold that well, and need to be shifted. If they end up on eBay then fair enough, that's how it is. But if they didn't sell that well at RRP let the resellers try and push them at RRP. 

    Lego has a unique market with their product, one that other toy manufactures can only dream about. So I doubt very much anything will change. Retired product means Retired product.
    gmonkey76
  • Waterjedi17Waterjedi17 Member Posts: 79
    75172 Y Wing is up on US S@H listed as Coming Soon March 1. For $60 this is a great deal, especially since it has more pieces, figures, and costs less compared to 75154 Tie Striker!
    TyresOFlaherty
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,378
    Wait so if the Y-Wing is $60 how much is Scarif?
  • Jackad7Jackad7 Member Posts: 555
    $50 I'm assuming. Although It's wiers that the sets cost less in America roller than in euros, usually it's the other way around.
  • TyresOFlahertyTyresOFlaherty Member Posts: 345
    edited February 2017
    Waterjedi17 said:
    75172 Y Wing is up on US S@H listed as Coming Soon March 1. For $60 this is a great deal, especially since it has more pieces, figures, and costs less compared to 75154 Tie Striker!
    Bah!! Got mine from Austria (to the US) on BrickLink for $67 shipped, which I thought was a great deal because I assumed it was going to be $69.99. Although I guess if you add tax, that's just $3 extra to get it a month early....

    ...TOTALLY WORTH IT!
  • exciter1exciter1 Member Posts: 226
    Waterjedi17 said:
    75172 Y Wing is up on US S@H listed as Coming Soon March 1. For $60 this is a great deal, especially since it has more pieces, figures, and costs less compared to 75154 Tie Striker!
    It's actually kind of disappointing, knowing that we could buy 9495 all day long for $35.  I'm hoping the same goes for these.
  • DEAD1974DEAD1974 Member Posts: 23
    other than that the 9495 looks much better to me, since I have them both. Plus the new one is smaller...
  • josekaleljosekalel Member Posts: 683
    I would second the idea of a on-demand/'build-to-order'/preorder type of thing with LEGO.

    First of all...there is nothing wrong with people buying sets so they can resell them; we live in a capitalist system that more or less works and doesn't truly restricts what people buy or sell. I do not think it's fair for resellers to take advantage of sales or clearances, because I won't be able to take advantage of them, but that's how it is. Being a reseller is not wrong, but it's not illegal, or truly wrong. 

    Second...LEGO earns NOTHING from resellers, maybe giving people the idea that buying LEGO for posterity and as an investment is a good idea, but nothing else. There is no touchy subject here. Reseller Joe sells the MF UCS at eBay at 3x the price, LEGO earns nothing. Fact.

    Third...Whether it's Star Wars or the modulars (as an example), I think it would give people like ME (who came out of the dark ages about three or two years ago) to get older sets, at a not-so-high price, rather than not having them at all (I'm looking at you, Grand Emporium).

    Fourth...Just because I'm buying an older set, it does not mean I will stop buying the newer sets. Plus, this new thing would truly be targeted at AFOLs who (in all truth) have the disposable income for it. 

    Fifth...it's doable. Don't tell me LEGO does not have the infrastructure to create and fulfill 'on-demand' orders; will it be fair to increase price a bit to keep up with inflation and special handling, yes, but saying it's impossible and would not be financially feasible, is a lie. 

    This was on-topic, right?? :p
  • YodaliciousYodalicious Member Posts: 1,366
    ^ I'd argue (pleasantly, of course) that LEGO actually does earn something from resellers. And that something is increased brand awareness and even brand loyalty. Similar to someone selling a '69 Camaro to someone else. They're likely selling it WAY over the original price (assuming condition is good) and while Chevy isn't getting a cut of that, they're getting a slight burst of an energized brand. Resellers expand a market that may be closed when an item can no longer be purchased in it's typical "off the shelf" state. While money doesn't go into the producing company's pockets, their brand profits from it. There are VERY, VERY few people that buy only one LEGO item from a reseller and never buy anything else ever again. Odds are those paying more to a reseller for a retired set are also those spending much more than the average person on LEGO through all channels. Case in point...pretty much all of us that are a part of this community.
  • josekaleljosekalel Member Posts: 683
    I would also argue pleasantly (since things get misunderstood when they're typed and then read). In most cases (most, not all) I think resellers do not the brand. I also do not think resellers give a positive view regarding brand awareness, since they might get the wrong idea of the product; for example, people thinking buying LEGO sets are making a good investment (even though it's more complex than this).

    I also do not think that someone selling Grand Emporium for $350 (when it was originally $149.99) actually helps with brand loyalty; I believe most people who want a set like that will go for the alternate route, regardless of the legality of it, or if it's the 'right' thing to do. 

    The market that deals with things that are not on the shelf is on-demand, and it works. It has worked for WB for example (DVDs), and to some degree with Amazon (CDs).

    Even then, like I mentioned and you also implied, this on-demand service is for a niche segment of the overall market, but a segment with enough disposable income to make it worth.

    So, being realistic and selfish, would I rather buy Grand Emporium (yes, I am obsessed with it, especially after I noticed it appears in the PS3 LEGO Marvel game) off eBay for $300 (while doubting whether it's original or not), or buy it from LEGO with a 10-15% markup? 

    By the way, by no means am I anti-reseller or anything like that, I'm just being a cheap consumer. 
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