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  • JooTogJooTog Member Posts: 945
    Saw some Nexo Knights blind bags with five shield powers at Target. Rang up at $3.99.

    I assume those are these: http://brickset.com/sets/70372-1/Combo-NEXO-Powers-Wave-1

    Yikes! Guess no "feeling" to figure out which one is which.
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,043
    edited December 2016
    Saw some Nexo Knights blind bags with five shield powers at Target. Rang up at $3.99.
    I have mixed feelings about those packs. On the one hand, I understand the appeal of being able to get more powers (including some awesome ones that previously only appeared in print or online, rather than as pieces). On the other hand, it reminds me of the Bionicle Kanohi, Krana, and Kraata packs in that it's not really a complete, playable toy on its own. It's just an accessory pack to enhance the other sets. I think the Minifigures series are generally a better value in that respect — sure, they're still randomized and give you about the same number of pieces, but with the Minifigures, no matter what you get, it will be bound to have some inherent play value.
    catwranglerbinaryeye
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,378
    Aanchir said:
    Saw some Nexo Knights blind bags with five shield powers at Target. Rang up at $3.99.
    I have mixed feelings about those packs. On the one hand, I understand the appeal of being able to get more powers (including some awesome ones that previously only appeared in print or online, rather than as pieces). On the other hand, it reminds me of the Bionicle Kanohi, Krana, and Kraata packs in that it's not really a complete, playable toy on its own. It's just an accessory pack to enhance the other sets. I think the Minifigures series are generally a better value in that respect — sure, they're still randomized and give you about the same number of pieces, but with the Minifigures, no matter what you get, it will be bound to have some inherent play value.
    These packs have some sort of integration with the app - also there's something new with the triangle shield bit I think, combine + make your own powers 
  • catwranglercatwrangler Member Posts: 1,895
    Yeah, I think that's a strength of the CMFs; you couldn't better design a collectable, impulse-priced series to hook in new fans or people ready to leave their Dark Ages with the right push.

    I'm quite surprised by the shields for the reasons you mention; it does suggest they think there's a decent market for them, but I guess we'll see. 


  • KerreKerre Member Posts: 412
    edited December 2016
    Aanchir said:

    Ooh, interesting that this gives us silhouettes of some of the summer vehicles.

    Allright, here's my take:

    • The two wave 3 vehicles are in the colour scheme associated with their main characters: White for #70348 and blue for #70351. This principle will apply to the summer wave vehicles as well. 
    • The bottom vehicle is likely Macy's. The back/tail of the vehicle does look like a mace. Some kind of red dragon-like flier would be cool and fits her character quite well. 
    • The top one looks like a bull - Axl's coat of arms - ready to lunge. It's also the kind of hefty vehicle Axl would drive around in. 
    • The middle silhouette is quite likely some dune buggy/halo warthog light recon vehicle. Aaron's battle suit can connect to the back spoiler to form some sort of turret.

    And poor Aaron is the only one unable to combine all other vehicles it seems.
    catwrangler
  • binaryeyebinaryeye Member Posts: 1,831
    Aanchir said:
    I think the Minifigures series are generally a better value in that respect — sure, they're still randomized and give you about the same number of pieces, but with the Minifigures, no matter what you get, it will be bound to have some inherent play value.
    I've always had some dislike for CMFs because there's no real building involved and not much play value. But I've given them a pass because they're diverse enough to inspire MOCing, provide interesting pieces, etc.

    These shield packs seem like a way for LEGO to bypass the negative perception of in-app purchases. I'd like them much more if a small build or minifigure (e.g. army builder type) were included. As they are, they just don't seem to mesh well with what LEGO is generally about.
    CM4S said:
    These packs have some sort of integration with the app - also there's something new with the triangle shield bit I think, combine + make your own powers 
    Yes, they need the app to do much of anything. Hence @Aanchir making the statement they aren't a complete, playable toy on their own.
    I'm quite surprised by the shields for the reasons you mention; it does suggest they think there's a decent market for them, but I guess we'll see.
    Either they think there is a market or they're testing the market. They already have a supply chain in place for CMF. It's probably not much of a risk for them to put something else in the packs and see if it sells.

    catwrangler
  • catwranglercatwrangler Member Posts: 1,895
    @binaryeye I think your idea about the bad reputation of in-app purchases probably has a lot to do with it - parents are so fed up with them in apps that have a big child audience...
    Kerre
  • Pumpkin_3CK5Pumpkin_3CK5 Member Posts: 805
    edited December 2016
    JooTog said:

    I assume those are these: http://brickset.com/sets/70372-1/Combo-NEXO-Powers-Wave-1

    Yikes! Guess no "feeling" to figure out which one is which.
    Aanchir said:

    I have mixed feelings about those packs. On the one hand, I understand the appeal of being able to get more powers (including some awesome ones that previously only appeared in print or online, rather than as pieces). On the other hand, it reminds me of the Bionicle Kanohi, Krana, and Kraata packs in that it's not really a complete, playable toy on its own. It's just an accessory pack to enhance the other sets. I think the Minifigures series are generally a better value in that respect — sure, they're still randomized and give you about the same number of pieces, but with the Minifigures, no matter what you get, it will be bound to have some inherent play value.

    That's why I never bothered picking up any lol didn't notice any of those dots at the bottom of the pack regular minifig bags have. 
  • dspigeldspigel Member Posts: 478
    Saw some Nexo Knights blind bags with five shield powers at Target. Rang up at $3.99.
    My local target is terrible for finding polybags. Then again this island is terrible for most things Lego.
    Pumpkin_3CK5
  • KerreKerre Member Posts: 412
    For me, the shield pack might be the perfect add-on item to reach the free shipping minimum spend to qualify for free shipping If the price is right. In general, I don't really understand what LEGO is aiming for with all these shields. The principle is okay but the execution is very odd: Kids can't afford to buy all sets in order to own all physical shields. Physical sharing is difficult because kids generally don't carry  the tablet or phone they use to run the app on around. There's also the problem of the sheer number of different shields, both physical and virtual. For adults, I don't see much interest in collecting the shields. After all, it's just one type of brick with a different print - very different from CMF's.

    As a parent of two KFOL I confidently say in-app purchases means instant disqualification. LEGO is very conscious of their brand image so I'm sure they'll stick to their meticulously executed plan of delivering multiple high-quality apps for free to make the ultimate soft sell.

    We got #70348 and #70366 delivered this morning:

    Loads of fun was had this afternoon.
    Lance's twin jouster is a lot better than expected. It's wings spread/fold like a mini u-wing. It also splits into two sections in a sensible way (Sensible in a very loose, Nexo-canon kind of way of course). The front is like a Knighton cycle on steroids and the back presumably gives fight capabilities to any of the battle suits. And Rogul is a fantastic-looking baddie.

    Another interesting bit of info: the last page of the #70348 instruction booklet shows a picture of The Book of Monstrox; very similar to the (highly recommended) Book of Monsters book published earlier this year. 
    Aanchirdspigelterfsten
  • 77ncaachamps77ncaachamps Member Posts: 2,442
    Saw these, tried to see if there was anything I could feel for like a CMF, but it just was not appealing to me. 
    dspigel
  • FauchFauch Member Posts: 2,709
    that's expensive. and I don't like the prints on the shields as much as in the castle theme.
  • catwranglercatwrangler Member Posts: 1,895
    I like the prints, but while they're fun as a special decorated piece to get with the sets (like the evil books), I feel like the enjoyment would wear out a bit buying them in blind bags. With CMFs, even when I don't or can't feel the differences, I still feel like there's a bit of variety in each bag because the various parts of a figure and accessories may end up in several very different builds, depending on the inspiration they provide. Shields are destined to be shields.

    Thought: could you tesselate an entire floor with them? 
  • willobee498willobee498 Member Posts: 349
    Brick Bank has a pretty cool looking floor using blank grey Nexo powers.
    catwrangler
  • catwranglercatwrangler Member Posts: 1,895
    I like that a lot; definitely worth experimenting with!
  • 77ncaachamps77ncaachamps Member Posts: 2,442
    I can only imagine a knights hall with the standards lining either side of a long table arranged in the center
    MattDawsoncatwrangler
  • MattDawsonMattDawson Member Posts: 1,492
    I can only imagine a knights hall with the standards lining either side of a long table arranged in the center
    With a Merlock 2.0 projection at the end?
    77ncaachampscatwrangler
  • Pumpkin_3CK5Pumpkin_3CK5 Member Posts: 805
    edited December 2016
    For anyone interested in the shield packs the target dpci is 204-00-1925. I ended up buying one cause of curiosity. 
    davetheoxygenman
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Member Posts: 798
    I'm not sure if I like this or not...
    TheOriginalSimonBJooTogkhmellymelcatwranglerOnebricktoomanyLittleLorigmonkey76brumeyAllBrick
  • brumeybrumey Member Posts: 1,002
    edited December 2016
    hmmmm... 
    slept a bit on nexo. even got a fire tablet for 40,- back in september just to play some nexo! this is all very interesting. the game is turning pretty complex with all the achievements for each level and all those crafting and combining!
    the last time i fired up nexo there was something new called "robins toolbox" or something... didnt quite get it tough!
    catwrangler
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    brumey said:
    hmmmm... 
    slept a bit on nexo. even got a fire tablet for 40,- back in september just to play some nexo! this is all very interesting. the game is turning pretty complex with all the achievements for each level and all those crafting and combining!
    the last time i fired up nexo there was something new called "robins toolbox" or something... didnt quite get it tough!
    it works on a fire tablet? i have a old i pad 2, and it's crash city on that.
  • brumeybrumey Member Posts: 1,002
    in summer i played a bit on samsung galaxy s4 mini ...  but it not really did run smooth on it.

    i think i have the little fire tablet. its got a 7inch screen. nexo runs super smooth on it!
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    i got a Amazon fire tablet on the way cost £34.99
    i am fed up of trying to pay stuff on my ipad 2 (come out in 2011)
    any program that come out in the last 2 years or had a update in the last 2 years. Crash's out. this also includes Nexo Knights.
    so i hope that i can get good use out of this new tablet. and it not a bad price for a tablet.  
    catwrangler
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    edited December 2016
    Right.


    #70358 Aaron's Stone Destroyer

    is a look's to be a Argos only item.


    #70359 Lance vs. Lightning

    is 100% a Toy's R US Only item.
    catwranglerKerre77ncaachamps
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,378
    Aaron's Stone Destroyer is a Target exclusive too in case anyone was wondering 
    chrisalddinPenkid1177ncaachamps
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    Right.


    #70358 Aaron's Stone Destroyer

    is a look's to be a Argos only item.


    #70359 Lance vs. Lightning

    is 100% a Toy's R US Only item.

    sorry yes Shoud have said tham two are UK places you can get them., well as well as lego shop@home and lego store.
  • KerreKerre Member Posts: 412
    edited December 2016
    Thanks for the info about UK exclusivity, chrisalddin.

    I was literally just about to ask whether anyone had seen these sets in the wild - as I haven't. I've been looking for them in the UK but mainly back home in Belgium.

    What puzzles me is that both sets now have disappeared from S@H. They were on there for a while pre-release, I posted the screenshot here earlier (and I'm really glad I did that). On the official release day some sets reappeared, but these did not.

    They still can't be found on the European S@H site. Googling "Lego 70358" returns a link tot the German S@H for me in about 6th position but S@H returns a "Page not found". Very strange, as country exclusives are typically also available direct from Lego. 
  • catwranglercatwrangler Member Posts: 1,895
    Might just be s@h updates being sluggish because of the time of year (or because it's the s@h site). I do hope they are also available there; TRU offers tend to be either on a higher threshold than I want to spend, or of the "spend X to get a money-off voucher for a future purpose" variety, and I'd rather bung those sets in an order when s@h is doing double points and/or a cool threshold spend freebie. 
    VorpalRyu
  • JooTogJooTog Member Posts: 945
    OK, so today I bought one #70372 NEXO Powers pack out of curiosity.

    I take it we agree that these are not as good as the CMF as:
    - You can't identify them prior to opening the pack
    - There's not much you can do with the parts when you get duplicate ones.
    - Limited playability.

    Also, that they are expensive for what they are, and we'll probably stay away from them.

    So, given that we have no self-control whatsoever, where do you think we should start the thread to exchange duplicated shields? :-(
    AllBrickcatwranglerLego_Star
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Member Posts: 798
    JooTog said:
    OK, so today I bought one #70372 NEXO Powers pack out of curiosity.

    I take it we agree that these are not as good as the CMF as:
    - You can't identify them prior to opening the pack
    - There's not much you can do with the parts when you get duplicate ones.
    - Limited playability.

    Also, that they are expensive for what they are, and we'll probably stay away from them.

    So, given that we have no self-control whatsoever, where do you think we should start the thread to exchange duplicated shields? :-(
    Probably the market place.  The better question is where to discuss which shields make standards / coats of arms that are usable outside of the Nexo Knight line.  Here or start a discussion elsewhere (there's probably a discussion on EB, but I'm way too lazy to check).
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Member Posts: 798
    edited December 2016
    Additionally - I spoke too soon on the Battle Suits.  They appear to be pretty neat parts packs as soon as they go on sale.
  • JooTogJooTog Member Posts: 945
    Battle Suits are already available at LEGO stores, or at least at my local one; got #70365 Battle Suit Axl today and just finished building it.

    One thing I was not aware of: Some of the shields, two in the case of Axl, are also part of Wave 1 of the power packs.

    Here's a scan of the Wave 1 shields:


    AllBrickBumblepantsLordmoralAanchirgmonkey7677ncaachampsLittleLori
  • AllBrickAllBrick Member Posts: 1,497
    ^^ Some of those look like good shop signage. The 1x1 brick and ice cream ones jump out as prime candidates. Welders mask and mouse being chomped are next-o.
    BumblepantscatwranglerAanchirgmonkey76Shib
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,727
    I like the cheese one, could be great for a fromagerie.
  • LordmoralLordmoral Member Posts: 934
    JooTog said:
    Battle Suits are already available at LEGO stores, or at least at my local one; got #70365 Battle Suit Axl today and just finished building it.

    One thing I was not aware of: Some of the shields, two in the case of Axl, are also part of Wave 1 of the power packs.

    Here's a scan of the Wave 1 shields:


    I am actually aiming to get Axl Battle Suit as he presents a glorious opportunity to be MOC into an Imperial construction mech, time for the Exo-Suit to get some help.
    OnebricktoomanyDedgecko
  • AllBrickAllBrick Member Posts: 1,497
    edited December 2016
    Straight after posting my last message, I popped off to get my nephew's to  get them to start playing M2.0. They spent most of the day playing and looking for power shields on Google images, it was a peaceful time.

    Of course, I'm feeling a tractor like pull towards it also.
    catwrangler
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    edited December 2016
    news up date.
    #70358 and #70359 are both now showing up on shop@home.
    so we can now get then online from lego.
    catwrangler
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,477
    Just built #70349 - Nice set for the price point, especially when bought before official release with 33% off ;-)

    I feel a bit like the Nexo Knights designers have been in competition to see who can squeeze the most new parts into a set. A small part of me wonders if it's been done in part to make the sets more appealing to the AFOL market as well as appealing to kids.

    catwranglerchrisalddinMynatt
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    Shib said:
    Just built #70349 - Nice set for the price point, especially when bought before official release with 33% off ;-)

    I feel a bit like the Nexo Knights designers have been in competition to see who can squeeze the most new parts into a set. A small part of me wonders if it's been done in part to make the sets more appealing to the AFOL market as well as appealing to kids.

    @Shib
    who you get it from?
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,397
    edited December 2016
    @chrisalddin
    I know some Tesco stores had this (and other new Nexo sets) on the shelf during the last 1/3 off deal just before christmas and I seem to remember a few members mentioning that they picked up this set then.

    Shib
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    bandit778 said:
    @chrisalddin
    I know some Tesco stores had this (and other new Nexo sets) on the shelf during the last 1/3 off deal just before christmas and I seem to remember a few members mentioning that they picked up this set then.

    yep but he said he only just got it, and the tesco offer been over for weeks, that is why i asked.
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,477
    No, I said I just built it. @bandit778 is correct I've had it stashed away for a while after finding it cheap in Tesco.
    chrisalddin
  • LegogramLegogram Member Posts: 321
    I recently purchased an additional #30374, and on the package it names the minifig Ash Attacker.
    However, Brickset names the minifig Crust Smasher.
    Can anyone tell me if they are one and the same, or two different minifigs? 
  • MegtheCatMegtheCat Member Posts: 500
    ^  Two different minifigs. Ash Attacker has horns on the helmet. I believe the package is wrong.
    Dedgecko
  • LegogramLegogram Member Posts: 321
    @MegtheCat  Thanks!  lol, one would think Lego would know who they put in the poly, but I guess we are all confused at times.  Thanks again :-)
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,237
    I like the cheese one, could be great for a fromagerie.
    Or for vermin control...
    VorpalRyu
  • JooTogJooTog Member Posts: 945
    Well, that's it. Today I bought my second #70372 NEXO Powers pack... 3 out of 5 duplicates from the first pack :-(
  • rawbobrawbob Member Posts: 535
    Once I have a few more packs bought I will be looking for trades for the powers.
  • AllBrickAllBrick Member Posts: 1,497
    SumoLego said:
    I like the cheese one, could be great for a fromagerie.
    Or for vermin control...
    There is a definite candidate for vermin control and its not the cheese.
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