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I politely request for you to respect peoples' decision to hate Minidolls.

So, obviously, I've been looking at the comments sections of the various DC Super Hero Girls threads on the main site, and frankly, it's kind of depressing how quickly it devolved into something resembling a virtual lynch mob. Personally, I couldn't care less about the existence of minidolls, and do appreciate their upsides as opposed to the original minifigure design (more potential for detail, more human-looking, etc.), but at the same time hating their very existence is a perfectly justifiable point of view (I would say that liking them more than minifigues is justifiable as well, but frankly I don't actually sure if anyone here has that opinion). The same thing goes with including bright colors in "girl" sets and the existence of DC Super Hero Girls in general. Now, it's one thing to debate the merits of the minidoll over the minifigure (same goes with the inclusion of bright colors in "girl" sets, Lego's decision to make "girl" sets in the first place, etc.), but I've seen far too many pro-minidoll FOL's acting as if there is zero reason to dislike the concept, or even just its inclusion in the DC Super Hero Girls theme (I know I would've loved to see a minifigure Bumblebee). Basically, all I'm asking is for people to be civil to one another over their plastic miniature style preferences.

And speaking of being civil, can we please, PLEASE keep issues of sexism and political correctness out of most (if not all) Lego discussions on this site? I get that it's a hot-button issue, and I have some strong opinions on the matters myself, but the main reason I think most of us use this forum is for Lego-centric discussions. I already have websites on which I can argue about whether or not society is inherently anti-woman or whatever, I don't need another. I mean, I get there are some situations where it might be relevant, but I still don't really want to talk about such matters unless absolutely necessary, as they're riotous for ruining friendships.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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  • ecmo47ecmo47 North CarolinaMember Posts: 2,101
    Vote for Dillery Crump!
    SprinkleOtterPitfall69TheBigLegoskikiki180703DoctorMcGannbobabricks
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,955
    If you do not wish to talk about a topic when it comes up, then simply don't. As individuals, we do not get to dictate topics. Moderators are a different matter, though.
    As for minifigs and minidolls, eh. 
    Some people like and some do not. Personally, the rage against the minidolls seems extreme to me, but I get people liking or disliking. 

    gmonkey76stluxJern92CCCMattsWhatBuriedinBrickskiki180703catwrangler
  • starwars4everstarwars4ever The Forest Moon of EndorMember Posts: 479
    As long as they don't affect Star Wars I will have no opinion on this topic..
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  • ryjayryjay Member Posts: 1,001
    I'll take minidolls in Star Wars set
  • starwars4everstarwars4ever The Forest Moon of EndorMember Posts: 479
    edited October 2016
    ^ Never!!!!! ;)
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 12,343
    Is this a pressing issue?
    stluxAllBrickTheMaker37gmonkey76kiki180703mr.pigglesMynatt
  • tallblocktootallblocktoo CanadaMember Posts: 497
    Ha @ryjay what are you trying to start?

  • ryjayryjay Member Posts: 1,001
    edited October 2016
    C'mon...havent ya all heard?....Comic Con is working on a 2017 Star Wars minidoll exclusive set ;)
    tallblocktookiki180703
  • ecmo47ecmo47 North CarolinaMember Posts: 2,101
    ...and the match has been struck.....
  • tallblocktootallblocktoo CanadaMember Posts: 497
    Hit the nail on the head @Tkatt.
  • Pumpkin_3CK5Pumpkin_3CK5 CaliforniaMember Posts: 769
    Be funny if they(minidolls) appeared in the second LEGO movie.
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  • The_Mad_VulcanThe_Mad_Vulcan SeattleMember Posts: 162
    Oh they'd better!
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,272
    edited October 2016
    The only uncivil comments I have seen in those comment threads is from people who felt the need to express how disgusted they are with TLG for daring to release these sets and minidolls in general, and how much they hate minidolls.
    Personally I don't care for the minidolls, but then again I grew up with the minifigs and I'm not the target audience. So when I see pictures of new Friends/Elves/Disney Princess/DC Super Hero Girls sets, I just ask myself: "will my nieces like these?" Usually the answer is "yes". Except for #41129 Hot Dog Van. That will be mine! Just like the Ninjago sets are not my cup of tea, but I had to have #70751 Temple of Airjitzu. And since this week a couple of Ninjago dragons...
    PeteMSalamalexdougtsakunthitakiki180703catwranglerklatu003buildalot
  • Jern92Jern92 MalaysiaMember Posts: 804
    I can understand disliking minidolls, but why on earth would you hate them? What exactly have they done to you in order to deserve so much venom?
    SalamalexstluxLegogramakunthitadougtsAanchirkiki180703
  • GoldchainsGoldchains Member Posts: 795
    Ahhhhhh...First World Problems...
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  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Studley, UKMember Posts: 1,643
    edited October 2016
    If people want their decisions respected then maybe not posting them on the internet might help - the only reason to post them on the internet (other than seeking validation) is to share them with other people which is always going to trigger a 'discussion'.
    TheBigLegoskiSalamalexRainstorm26Jern92sid3windr
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,823
    "Virtual lynch mob"? I don't get where you're seeing that at all. In the first thread, plenty of members like The creative box, PhoenixBrick, Cindipool, PicnicBasketSam, Lego_Fox, kazar14, ggfile politely expressed that they don't like the figures. I didn't see a single person target any of them or jump down their throats. The most heated arguments that came up involved other aspects of the set designs and brand concept. When people like Zordboy and BrickHelix did go into specific reasons they disliked the mini-doll, others who disagreed respectfully pointed out why those factors weren't a huge concern to them.

    In the second thread, mini-doll discussion got a bit more heated, mostly because of comments like ZeeBricks that made hateful comments like "Blech!! …The minidolls ruin the whole line." or OhioBricker who called mini-dolls "an abomination" and even bragged about throwing them in the trash. But even then, members like @akunthita stayed pretty respectful in their defense of the mini-doll. Overall, there was nothing that would constitute a "lynch mob". No personal attacks whatsoever.

    Plenty of people who did like the mini-dolls said so, of course, and some went so far as to defend the mini-doll even though there was perhaps no pressing need to do so. But preemptively defending something you like is not the same as attacking people who dislike it. And if you're having a hard time distinguishing those kinds of disagreements from personal attacks, that may mean you're more invested in other people's opinions than you really ought to be.
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  • DontcopythatfloppyDontcopythatfloppy 'MuricaMember Posts: 43
    Aanchir said:
    -snip-

    Plenty of people who did like the mini-dolls said so, of course, and some went so far as to defend the mini-doll even though there was perhaps no pressing need to do so. But preemptively defending something you like is not the same as attacking people who dislike it. And if you're having a hard time distinguishing those kinds of disagreements from personal attacks, that may mean you're more invested in other people's opinions than you really ought to be.
    Honestly (and this may seem like I'm going in a completely random direction), I think the main reason why I made this thread has a lot to do with the way I'm feeling right now, which in turn has a lot to do with your comment. I think the "problem" that made me decide to post this has a lot to do with one of the biggest downsides of internet forums: Whether people are civil or not, being one person facing an entire thread full of people with differing opinions, each providing their own arguments to prove their own specific point, is really overwhelming. I guess I was just going through those threads and putting myself in the shoes of the minority opinion, watching like ten different people try and engage in conversations with them at the same time, and felt like they were being attacked by a massive group of people. You're probably right in saying that no one's actually insulting each other over minidolls, but I think it's important to understand that if you're against them (or maybe this is just me), it can feel that way. Not that I'm trying to be Mister Wise Old Sage teaching his young pupils about morality or anything, I'm probably going to refine my current opinion on this matter yet again in the next couple of days anyway. I guess I just felt like putting it out there.
    catwrangler
  • DontcopythatfloppyDontcopythatfloppy 'MuricaMember Posts: 43
    tamamahm said:
    If you do not wish to talk about a topic when it comes up, then simply don't. As individuals, we do not get to dictate topics. Moderators are a different matter, though.
    -snip-
    Even though I just basically agreed with everyone else in the thread about minidoll discussion, I still have a problem when it comes to politics. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we shouldn't be allowed to discuss politics on this forum, I just think we shouldn't. It's always helpful to treat discussions on the internet like discussions in real life, and in real life (or at least in America) it's always considered tactful to never bring up religion or politics in an unrelated conversation, and especially one with people you don't know well, lest someone gets their feelings hurt. A simple fact of life is that when you know you disagree with someone on an issue you feel incredibly strongly about, it's very hard to discuss things unrelated to the issue with them, as your opinion with them is forever tainted by the disagreement. However, discussing issues that are relatively unimportant is what Brickset is all about. Given this fact, I think it's a good idea that we steer clear from topics that might make people not think as highly of each other as the did before they were brought up. However, I won't stop you if you disagree.
  • catwranglercatwrangler Northern IrelandMember Posts: 1,822
    edited October 2016
    I think the problem with that is that often the reason politics are brought up in unrelated discussions is that someone will make an aside that's an unhelpful generalisation or even insulting to a particular group. This will not be seen as "politics" or as having any political dimension. Then the people who respond at any greater depth or length to say why the original comment was offensive/unhelpful/just plain unnecessary get blamed for "bringing politics into it".

    It's easy to be apolitical and treat it as an ideal when stuff doesn't affect you personally; when it does, it's like a knife to the heart when you just came online to discuss Lego or some other hobby you normally use to relax, and you find yourself having to read slurs or patronising rubbish about people like yourself.
    Jern92
  • Jern92Jern92 MalaysiaMember Posts: 804
    I think the problem with that is that often the reason politics are brought up in unrelated discussions is that someone will make an aside that's an unhelpful generalisation or even insulting to a particular group. This will not be seen as "politics" or as having any political dimension. Then the people who respond at any greater depth or length to say why the original comment was offensive/unhelpful/just plain unnecessary get blamed for "bringing politics into it".

    It's easy to be apolitical and treat it as an ideal when stuff doesn't affect you personally; when it does, it's like a knife to the heart when you just came online to discuss Lego or some other hobby you normally use to relax, and you find yourself having to read slurs or patronising rubbish about people like yourself.
    Agreed. One has to be relatively privileged in order to not have to bring 'politics' into anything, because for the rest of us, we encounter plenty of slurs and micro-aggressions in daily life. Sometimes we respond, other times we let it go. Either way, it shouldn't wrong to point out that a particular statement is sexist or hurtful or derogatory in any way. If that makes you uncomfortable, then be glad you weren't personally affected by the slurs to begin with, and get on with your life.
    catwranglerKingAlanI
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Brickset's Secret HeadquatersMember Posts: 1,805

    Personally I hate mindolls and if anyone does like them they aren't real fans of Lego and probably buy Megabloks and Lepin and kick cats and hate children. 

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  • mr.pigglesmr.piggles Snow FortMember Posts: 326
    ^ You just described my weekend! That's wild! Now if you'll excuse me, my beloved minidolls and I have to finish our "No Kids, Cat Kickers Club" that we're building out of Megabloks and Lepin. It looks a lot like the Haunted House!

    People like to find reasons to be prickly and argue just to fill time. Even finding arguments where there weren't any to be had. 
    AanchirRedbullgivesuwindLegogramkiki180703catwranglerMegtheCatGoldchains
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Brickset's Secret HeadquatersMember Posts: 1,805
    @SumoLego I see you have taken the Angelina Jolee approach to getting children.  
    Pitfall69SumoLegoTheBigLegoskigmonkey76kiki180703Jern92steinbriqueKingAlanIDontcopythatfloppy
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,135
    Is this the brickset version of "snog, marry, avoid"?
    SumoLegoTheBigLegoskikiki180703
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 2,647

    ^ buying children? ;-)

    SumoLego
  • Legopassion8Legopassion8 North CarolinaMember Posts: 1,181
    Wait.....so Lego made a high school shaped like a penis? Which set is penis high and does it come with a Principal Cockwell minifigure or mini doll?
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 12,343
    Surely, I can't be the only one who lives his life by 'Cop Rock'...



    (Best part is at 50 seconds.)
  • ChgoMattChgoMatt USAMember Posts: 108
    #41232 Super Hero High School is quite...er....phallic.
    KingAlanI
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,246
    edited October 2016
    Anyone who really thinks that might want to see a urologist 
    AanchirSumoLegodavetheoxygenmanPitfall69BumblepantsstluxKingAlanIkiki180703
  • Legopassion8Legopassion8 North CarolinaMember Posts: 1,181
    Who's that purple & green girl? Lexie Luther? Mercy Graves? 
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,823
    Who's that purple & green girl? Lexie Luther? Mercy Graves? 
    According to the post on Facebook announcing that set, it's Lena Luthor.
  • Legopassion8Legopassion8 North CarolinaMember Posts: 1,181
    edited October 2016
    Heh... well I hope Deathstroke the Terminator isn't a member of the faculty. He's got a thing for underage girls. (TerrA)
  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,149
    People typically hate things because they perceive it as taking away from effort spent on things they like, whether this is the Playstation because they have an Xbox and are worried devs will focus on the PS, or minidolls because they like minifigs and are worried development of more minidolls will be development of less minifigs.

    Sometimes this distaste has merit- there's some truth in what they believe, othertimes it has no merit, they're just being paranoid about how much focus their preferred product will get.

    Given that TLG seems to be struggling with capacity problems at the moment, I'd be inclined to believe there's some merit in the concern that more minidolls means less minifigs. If TLG are struggling for resource as is, does that mean these new sets and minidolls will be getting created at the expense of existing lines and minifigs? Quite possibly I suspect, and therein lies the problem people have.

    It's already well known that the reason we're getting crappy things like the overpriced half-arsed Death Star remake is because of Lego struggling to properly resource things, so when TLG announce another whole new line, it's not just something that's made in isolation with no impact, it inevitably has to have impact on their already overloaded schedule. As such it should be no wonder that people might be concerned that their preferred set is suffering - there's a reasonable chance that TLG is indeed chasing a new audience at the expense of their existing audience. That existing audience has every right to be annoyed and to air their discontent as a result of that.

    Therefore I'd agree, it's unfair to dismiss people's concerns with simplistic arguments of "If you don't like them, don't buy them" because they may also be stopping people from buying the sets and minifigs they actually want if those sets and minifigs can't be made due to lack of resource.

    So let's be honest, if you're in the existing audience you have every right to be pissed, if you're in the new audience you have every right to be happy. Neither side is going to agree.
    KingAlanI
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,272
    People being unhappy with minidolls and preferring minifigs: I can understand.
    People posting uncivil comments when sets with minidolls are released and then claiming they feel persecuted when other people merely point out (in civil worlds!) that they actually like minidolls: not so much.

    Yes, the world has many shades of grey  and people's feelings on minidolls can be anywhere on that spectrum, mostly for good reasons. But people posting extreme opinions should not be surprised when not everybody shares that extreme opinion. Being free to have an opinion and express that opinion also means you accept that other people might have a different opinion and express that as well.
    When asking for tolerance you will have better luck when expressing a bit of tolerance yourself.

    Anyhow, I'm not sure I buy the minidolls canabalizing the minifigs argument. TLG keep putting out more and more sets every year, including large exclusives. They also keep them on shelves longer than ever before. Yes, SW UCS was messed up this year, but at least we did get some other nice sets such as the Disney Castle.
    With Friends being one of their bestselling themes TLG got a large new audience. Without Friends/Disney Princess my nieces would likely (or is this wishful thinking from my side?) have some Lego, but not nearly in the same quantities they have now. It is their main toy, something I don't think would have happened without the minidolls. I firmly believe everything that is good for TLG (expanded sales through the Friends theme) is good for AFOL's. Yes, TLG only throws us a bone on occasion. Has it ever been different/better? TLG is in the business of selling toys to kids after all.
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  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,149
    But you're clearly pointing out you're in the group that benefits and this was really the point I was trying to make - if you're on one side of the debate, which you clearly are, then you'll probably not understand the other's point of view, which it appears you don't. For anyone wanting decent Star Wars or Super Heroes UCS or UCS scale sets this year it's been a complete flop. My expenditure on Lego this year has declined from the thousands into the low hundreds.

    I think even the Disney Castle was a dissappointment, when you compare it side by side against the GBHQ the GBHQ is a drastically better set with drastically better value for money. The castle showcases very little of Disney's IP and is really just a frontal view of it - it's not that the front isn't bad, but that it's a poor demonstration of what it could and for many was expected to have been. Orthanc is probably the closest comparison, and a much better set in terms of value and content.

    So yeah, I do think it has been better, much better. Last year, the year before, the year before that and so on. It's really just been a crap year with flops like Hoth, vintage Bat cave, Death Star republish with a massive price hike and so on. It's a sad state of affairs when it looks like many AFOLs have been more intrigued by what Lepin has been pouring out than anything by TLG themselves. If they're the only ones pushing out the big AFOL oriented sets and AFOLs are buying them which they clearly are then no, I don't think that's good for TLG and AFOLs in the long run.

    I don't disagree with you about people making over the top arguments though, but this is the internet. That shouldn't be new to anyone whose ever witnessed a fanboy(or girl) discussion before. You'll be hard pressed to find any discussion with even the slightest amount of passion in it that doesn't descend into that, you either ignore it and just scroll right past it or accept that online forums just aren't for you, there's not really any other option.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,135
    edited October 2016
    Xefan said:

    Given that TLG seems to be struggling with capacity problems at the moment, I'd be inclined to believe there's some merit in the concern that more minidolls means less minifigs. If TLG are struggling for resource as is, does that mean these new sets and minidolls will be getting created at the expense of existing lines and minifigs? Quite possibly I suspect, and therein lies the problem people have.

    I don't believe that at all. I highly doubt that cutting out all minidoll sets would lead to more minifigure (as in variety) sets being available, or indeed better minifigure sets being available.

    First I cannot think of a single minifigure based set that lego have produced that I couldn't have bought if I had wanted to. So I don't believe the capacity problem. There might be shortages of specific sets at specific times and in specific places, but not a general shortage. I have never seen a lego store bare or an entire lego section of a toy store or supermarket bare. I have seen cleared shelves after highly discounted sales, but next to laden shelves at full RRP. I have also seen people paying 3x RRP on the secondary market for a current set for a Christmas present only for it to be back to RRP on the shelves come January. But at the same time plenty of other lego sets still available.

    Second, if production capacity is a problem and the buying world is polarised into minifigure buyers and minidoll buyers, then why would they produce more variety in minifigure sets and cut minidoll ones? This would mean they lose access to the minidoll buying market, but at the same time introduce more choice for the minifigure buying market thus introducing more internal competition for each of their minifigure sets. Why do that? If there really was a shortage and they cut all production of minidoll sets, then they would probably still produce the same number (as in variety) of minifigure based sets but more of each of them to satisfy customers that cannot purchase them due to lack of stock (if that was true). So there wouldn't necessarily be more variety of minifigure sets by cutting out production of minidoll ones, just more copies of the same minifigure sets. They wouldn't need to design more sets if it was a stock problem, just produce more of the same.

    Third, if the capacity problem (if it really exists) is down to constraints on design production rather than constraints on part production, then it is a simple matter of either employing more designers or designing less sets per year but make them available for longer. Yet there doesn't seem to be a real problem here either. The sets they currently design sell. They don't need better sets, as what the design already sells well. Are they poorly designed? Buyers seem to say otherwise.

    I imagine cutting out minidoll sets would lead to a loss of overall sales. They would lose sales to a large number of minidoll buyers, while probably not increasing the sales to the minifigure buyers. They'd also be losing shelf space in toy stores and supermarkets where toys are categorized as boys and girls toys. They won't be putting the "boys" lego on girls' shelves. They will fill it with a competitors product. Of course, lego could stop making minidolls and make female minifigure sets and other sets aimed at girls and keep a girls range that way. Yet their research showed them that minidolls would sell better than female minifigure sets, which is why they do it. It also wouldn't lead to more variety in the regular lines, there would just be more pastel and pinks sets that happen to have minifigures rather than minidolls in.

    If fans of one theme (such as Star Wars) are against minidolls, then they should equally well be against other themes such as City and whatever the current one year movie franchise (TLR, etc) or other theme (Monster Fighters, AC, PQ, etc) is. After all, those sets take away not just design and production capacity but also "boys" shelf space. It would probably be better for Star Wars fans (or any other theme) to be pro-minidoll but anti every other boys theme. That would shift production, design and shelf space in their favour.
    Xefan said:

    I think even the Disney Castle was a dissappointment, when you compare it side by side against the GBHQ the GBHQ is a drastically better set with drastically better value for money. The castle showcases very little of Disney's IP and is really just a frontal view of it - it's not that the front isn't bad, but that it's a poor demonstration of what it could and for many was expected to have been. Orthanc is probably the closest comparison, and a much better set in terms of value and content.

    You might think that, but the Disney Castle is the one recent minifigure set I can think of that has been harder than others to get hold of in some places. It is so poor it frequently sells out in the US.


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  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,272
    edited October 2016
    Exactly. Even though a lot of people seem to be under the impression that the world works along zero-sum principles (what annoys me the most is when people want employees to retire early "to make place for young people" and countries who act along the principle of "this policy is bad for county X so I love it", even when it hurts *everybody*), that's not actually how most things function.

    TGL selling more because they now offer minidolls means they have more money to add expand their production sites and hire more designers, hopefully resulting in more and better sets for every niche/not-so-niche taste.

    With a few hiccups along the way (those UCS sets again). But we also got a 2704 pieces Porsche and 3927 pieces Bucket Wheel Excavator this year. I'm not into Technic myself, but wow. (And yes, I'm aware that those sets do have some flaws. Still wow.)
    catwranglerKingAlanIkiki180703
  • JudgeChuckJudgeChuck UKMember Posts: 1,125
    ^Well said.

    Personally, I'm not partial to the minidoll themes, but my daughters love them. I'm very happy that my girls love playing with LEGO, so I'm more than happy to buy them for them and I'm sure I'm not the only AFOL father (or mother) who feels the same way. :-)
    stluxcatwranglerkiki180703Rakul
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,135
    ^^^ are minifig fans less privileged than they once were? It seems they have more choice now than in the past, with the added bonus that other people can also enjoy a different type of figure.
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  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,149
    CCC said:
    First I cannot think of a single minifigure based set that lego have produced that I couldn't have bought if I had wanted to. So I don't believe the capacity problem.
    So you think they don't have a capacity problem?
    CCC said:
    You might think that, but the Disney Castle is the one recent minifigure set I can think of that has been harder than others to get hold of in some places. It is so poor it frequently sells out in the US.
    So you think they do have a capacity problem?

    Your argument is entirely contradictory, if there was no capacity problem, there'd be no problem keeping the shelves constantly stocked.
    Aanchir said:
    I think if you've been pandered to all your life, it's worth at least considering being happy for other people when they finally get something of their own to enjoy.
    I am. I think the point of my post was largely missed, ironically by people defending minidolls without being willing to understand there was a different point of view. I had hoped given complaints about the anti-minidoll side of the argument making absurd far fetched arguments that the pro-minidoll side might be a bit more receptive of a bit of objectivity, but apparently both sides are firmly entrenched with their one true master view mindset and both are willing to be partially wrong if it means they don't have to give even an inch to the views of others. I get it, on the internet when people argue they entrench, and I missed the original argument so I guess you guys are all still too sore so as to find the concept of there being at least some legitimacy to the concerns of others so controversial when it really shouldn't be.

    My intention was to make the point that there are two sides to the argument, and frankly both have a reasonable degree of validity in their concern or appreciation. I don't really have any problem with the fact that TLG have made a new group of people happy, but similarly I also sympathise with those who are disappointed.

    No one's saying the world works on zero sum principles, but it'd be incredibly naive to believe TLG have infinite resources too, especially when they've stated themselves they have limited resources both by way of design capacity and manufacturing capacity on numerous occasions. It's not a secret that TLG has had problems scaling in the face of their massive success of recent years. This shouldn't be controversial, it's simple statement of fact:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/lego-factories-brick-wall-christmas

    So I'll leave you guys to it, no amount of insisting you're right will make it so. People will still have legitimate reasons to dislike this move whether you wish to accept it or not. As I say I'm glad some people have a cool new thing to play with - it's always a nice feeling, but I also feel for those who are disappointed too. Even if you disagree, telling people they shouldn't be disappointed because you're right and that's that isn't going to magically stop them being disappointed, so it's a fools errand regardless.
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