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Speculation on the upcoming Death Star

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  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 923
    CM4S said:
    Confirmed $500


    10188 was priced at US$650 here, so the new one at US$500 is actually way cheaper, to us at least. 

    I can never understand why TLG assumed we have higher buying power than those in US or EU. 

    If only TLG would set the price here based on direct conversion rather than markup with a factor of 2, which will bring it to S$1000!  :(
  • DontcopythatfloppyDontcopythatfloppy 'MuricaMember Posts: 43
    edited August 2016
    Recce said:
    CM4S said:
    Confirmed $500


    10188 was priced at US$650 here, so the new one at US$500 is actually way cheaper, to us at least. 

    I can never understand why TLG assumed we have higher buying power than those in US or EU. 

    If only TLG would set the price here based on direct conversion rather than markup with a factor of 2, which will bring it to S$1000!  :(
    Where do you live?

    EDIT: Wow, I'm an idiot. He lives in Singapore.
    SumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,219
    edited August 2016
    Is that a UCS badge?!??!

    Joy.

    Can Lego just re-box the Ewok Village with the UCS badge, so my OCD can dissipate?
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  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098
    SumoLego said:
    Is that a UCS badge?!??!

    Joy.

    Can Lego just re-box the Ewok Village with the UCS badge, so my OCD can dissipate?
    Yes, I'm sure that Lego can slap a UCS label on the Ewok Village box along with $50 added to the price.  Would that satisfy your OCD?  ; )
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098
    What gets me is that Lego can sell the Disney Castle which actually has 64 more pieces for $150 less.  The minifigs?  Sorry, but those are still "pieces" in my book. 

    Man, the resellers and minfig collectors have killed Lego for most of us.  When I look at something like this rehashed monster priced at $500 I have to think that it's NOT what Lego is about.  Not At All.  
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,022
    NO,
    NO.
    no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
    just No.
    $500?
    WTF is lego smoking?
    that is a 25% increase on the old US price.
    i dear not think what the uk one will be.

    i am not getting it.
    this is one more bad call by lego on the star wars front.
    thedingman5
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,219
    edited August 2016
    mathew said:
    Yes, I'm sure that Lego can slap a UCS label on the Ewok Village box along with $50 added to the price.  Would that satisfy your OCD?  ; )
    Only $50.00?  I'm in.  (Yes - that would satisfy my LOCD.)

    Lego is about selling a premium product to the largest number of people that will buy it.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098
    edited August 2016
    Lego is about selling a premium product to the largest number of people that will buy it.
    You got that right.  But so much for "Only the best is good enough."  It's hard to understand how Lego can put so much effort into one product (Disney Castle or GBHQ) and then shovel out a rehashed Death Star for only *gulp* $500.  Yes, for the fools that gold UCS label is "good enough". 
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    Assuming TLG/Disney wanted a similar death star play set, if they made more substantial changes to this version there would be a much bigger outcry from those that had spread spent £275 on the original and now their kids wanted another for £400. Their approach is spot on, if you've got one already just ignore it and move on, in real terms I doubt its even taken a UCS development slot as it clearly not taken much design time.
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  • mmozzanommozzano UKMember Posts: 413
    I picked up the original with Darth Revan for £233 two years ago,  it's still sitting in the packing box. 

    No intention of going anywhere near this rehash, can't wait to see the UK price but I'm guessing £399.99.
  • msandersmsanders Member Posts: 1,006
    Well, a few comments here. Firstly, I`m shocked at the lack of changes to the old set - I really thought it was a fake at first. I can sort of understand the attitude of `well, it ain`t broke so don`t fix it`.

    With regards to price. Just a quick look shows that the old one is selling on ebay at around £425, so some people are prepared to pay this amount (I know, I know, retired sets go for more). Its possible that the price of the old set may decrease now given the new set. Does that mean it will be possible to pick up the old one cheaper than the new one?!

    Given the current pricing structure for Star Wars sets (1 piece = 10 pence in the UK), it seems that a re-release of the Millennium Falcon is unlikely (it would cost £500+). I have to agree with the sentiment of others, that Star Wars sets are becoming prohibitively expensive. If you compare the same sized sets across other themes, it feels that you don`t get very much for your money when buying Star Wars. 

    I`m glad I bought mine years ago (Just over 4 years). Whilst the minifigures look very outdated, I`ve got enough newer minifigures to substitute in (and I`m sure I could bricklink the `improvements` at a vastly lower cost than £400). I don`t think I could ever pay £400 for a single Lego set. Certainly, my wages have gone up by this level of `inflation`. 
  • Brinstar85Brinstar85 Member Posts: 42
    What a disappointment. Between this and 75098 Assault on Hoth it's been a very bad year for premium priced Star Wars sets. While I appreciate that 10188 was a big seller, I wonder how many owners of that set are going to be willing to splash out on the new one. Given the minimal changes I would imagine relatively few. That means Lego are banking on  a lot of new fans (or those who never got around to buying the last one) being willing to pay a premium price for the new set. Time will tell, but I'm not convinced a re-release of an 8 year old set is going to be the greatest commercial success.
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  • bobabricksbobabricks Vancouver, BC, CanadaMember Posts: 1,842
    Here in Canada the set is going $600, with 12% BC tax, the total comes to $672. Making it cheaper to get a sealed 10188 on the after market, much cheaper.

    What a disappointment. Between this and 75098 Insult on Hoth it's been a very bad year for premium priced Star Wars sets. 
    I can definitely agree with this. Hopefully the snow speeder will make up for this. From the sand speeder recently reaching 10,000 supporters on Cuusoo, maybe Lego will get it through their heads that people want display models, not play sets. There is plenty of budget for play sets in the regular StarWars line, it doesn't need to bleed into the UCS line.
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  • xwingpilotxwingpilot UKMember Posts: 797
    edited August 2016
    I don't have any issue with TLG re-releasing sets as long as they're brought up to date in terms of minifigures and detail using new parts and building techniques. #7191 recreated as #10240 13 years later is a good example. This really was a missed opportunity. And I still don't understand why the minifigures don't have flesh-coloured heads and hands in line with the rest of the theme. To me this 'new' set looks out of place in 2016.
  • mmozzanommozzano UKMember Posts: 413
    I thought the new  figures were flesh coloured and the yellow appearance was just down to dodgy lighting? 
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  • xwingpilotxwingpilot UKMember Posts: 797
    ^ I think you're right. I was going by this photo from the 75159 Death Star unveiled in brand store article on the main site:



    More recent photos do seem to indicate otherwise...
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,769
    They look fleshie to me. I cannot see them returning to yellow for licensed, unless there is good reason (Simpsons, historic copies, etc).
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  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,012
    ^ I think even TLG have to consider what they can get away with charging without harming sales. Perhaps the lack of any real development costs because of its similarity to #10188 will help TLG think about hiking the price way up.

    Right now, $500 is about £380, so £350 seems most likely to me.

    TLG may need to remember that people out there are starting to notice Lepin and other clones. You might not be able to nip to the high street to pick one up, but they are accessible to everyone on the net and if the quality is decent enough (as it seems to be), little Timmy might be getting a £120 Death Star for Christmas instead of a £400 one. These clones may yet have a purpose for us - to keep TLG's product inflation in check.
  • iso3200iso3200 97 miles from Brickset TowersMember Posts: 2,058
    £380 UK I believe.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,769
    If it was just inline with inflation, the old one would be £345ish. So £380-400 is probably about right if this is going to be out for another 5 years without a price change and factoring in the "lego can charge more than it used to" factor.

    Alternatively, the increase must be down to Han's hair stylist's costs.

  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,914
    My money is on £450
  • xwingpilotxwingpilot UKMember Posts: 797
    edited August 2016
    The only SW sets to have broken the £300 mark have been the UCS SSD and MF. And they were display sets that appeal to AFOLs who might want to drop that sort of money on a centrepiece for their collection. How many people would be prepared to pay more than £400 for a play set?
  • 1x11x1 Member Posts: 139
    UK prices ar  normally significantly higher than USA prices so I also thought £450 initially as £400 only makes it about £20 more than the USA. That would be such a large increase from the old one though and £100 more than any previous set.  So I'm going for £399.99
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,769
    The only SW sets to have broken the £300 mark have been the UCS SSD and MF. And they were display sets that appeal to AFOLs who might want to drop that sort of money on a centrepiece for their collection. How many people would be prepared to pay more than £400 for a play set?
    In past six months on BL, average is £380 (86 sold) for the old one. So there is a market for this price range. People new to Lego in the next 5-6 years probably won't be aware that the old set was previously available let alone for a significantly cheaper price.

    It should also be remembered that the US prices are before tax, so care has to be taken when comparing to UK and European prices.
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    edited August 2016
    1x1 said:
    UK prices ar  normally significantly higher than USA prices so I also thought £450 initially as £400 only makes it about £20 more than the USA.
    Sales tax in the US varies by locale, but if you use a national average of 7.5%, at the current exchange rate, £400 would be £11 cheaper than the US price with tax.

    Looking at the price differences on recent UCS sets, where the UK price in pounds is 85% to 88% of the price in US dollars, I expect it will be no less than £420 and could realistically be £450.
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    msanders said:

    I have to agree with the sentiment of others, that Star Wars sets are becoming prohibitively expensive.
    It's not just Star Wars. There are sets like the Firehouse, the Helicarrier and the Porsche - all having their own fan base.

    Those fan bases are probably the clue to "prohibitively expensive". Are they actually trying to sell to AFOLs? Or are they trying to appeal to a wider market? They only get prohibitively expensive if you try buying a number of them. Unfortunately, some people collect Star Wars sets and therefore feel the need to do so, but I can see somebody seeing and buying the Porsche when they haven't bought any LEGO sets for many years, and won't for many years to come.
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,012
    ^ If an AFOL thinks a set is expensive, most likely the vast majority of the public buying for their kids will too. Can't see how the "wider market" would be more tolerable of a high price than an AFOL would. Before I was truly an AFOL back out of my dark ages, I looked at the UCS MF and thought it looked amazing, then looked at the £350 price tag and decided it was ridiculous, putting it out of my mind for a few years, i'm sure I had the mindset of the average person from the "wider market" back then when it comes to Lego.
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,219
    ^ People were willing to pay $500.00+ for a Tickle Me Elmo.

    And more than RRP on Minecraft Lego sets...
  • bobabricksbobabricks Vancouver, BC, CanadaMember Posts: 1,842
    SumoLego said:
    ^ People were willing to pay $500.00+ for a Tickle Me Elmo.

    And more than RRP on Minecraft Lego sets...
    But as I stated above, after market 10188's are selling for less than this new one. If a parent is a savvy deal finder (not necessarily an AFOL) and sees a 10188 for sale for $100 less than the new set which to them IS identical, which one are they going to buy?

    maybe in another 8 years when this price catches up with inflation it will sell well, but I just can't see the majority of people buying this, especially when this set is the most expensive set ever, next to the UCS MF and those serious play sets, and it's definitely not the largest set.
    monkeyhanger
  • CoviCovi BelgiumMember Posts: 308
    I think @TigerMoth is spot on with this comment/view.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,769
    maybe in another 8 years when this price catches up with inflation it will sell well, but I just can't see the majority of people buying this, especially when this set is the most expensive set ever, next to the UCS MF and those serious play sets, and it's definitely not the largest set.
    I doubt if the majority of people bought the last one either.
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  • monkyby87monkyby87 Member Posts: 316
    Well said TigerMoth.  An AFOL sees faults, missed opportunities, and compares to other sets on the market.  Other people don't.
  • Brinstar85Brinstar85 Member Posts: 42
    Huw said:
    My money is on £450
    I really hope not. I think Lego would have a hard time justifying this for a set that is so similar to one that was on sale a few months ago for £275. Anything more than £325 is really pushing it in my opinion.
    monkeyhanger
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,012
    TigerMoth said:
    Can't see how the "wider market" would be more tolerable of a high price than an AFOL would.
    An AFOL looks and sees lots of desirable sets; somebody without a particular interest in LEGO sets, sees one.

    A Porsche fan doesn't see a LEGO set that makes a Porsche; he sees a Porsche made out of LEGO bricks. To him, it's cool because it's a Porsche - just like that radio-controlled one he has, and the gold-plated he has on his desk. It'll look good on a display stand in the corner, and impress his friends. He'll see a much greater value - let's face it, there's no other way he'd be seen dead buying a children's toy for himself. Nor does he particularly care that the gears are in the right order, or that there are gaps between panels. It's a Porsche. Better, it's an unusual one. But it's still a Porsche. It's worth every penny, even at twice the price, because it's a one-off; there's unlikely to be anything similar on his radar in a year or two's time.

    I doubt any AFOL would pay twice the price for it. I suspect that quite a lot of Technic fans won't pay the current price for it. Or a lot less than that. It's a LEGO set, not a Porsche, and as such they see it's faults. There are already similar things on their radar now, not in the future - other Technic sets. They choose. They make a value judgement and, for many, something else will win. It's just not special enough to justify the price. The exceptions are the completionist - and that doesn't apply to many of the high-value sets that I mentioned because there's nothing to complete.

    Somebody who has no LEGO sets, and otherwise has no interest in them, would be prepared to pay more than an AFOL for the same item.
      You are still talking about the tiny proportion of the wider market, not "the" wider market. If there are 5 sets an AFOL wants in a given year, they may find the means and will to drop that money on it (moreso at full RRP if there's a tasty promo on the go). Besides, you are talking about Porsche drivers for a Porsche Lego model - they are used to paying over the odds, especially those driving a £40k bottom end model (Cayman/Boxter_paying nearly as much as someone with a top end 911 to service it, because it is a Porsche, paying Porsche labour rates.

    You're twisting your argument to make the exception the rule. I'm sure those Porsche sets will sell, but most will buy somewhere at a discount (to a non-Porsche owner), at Smyths (UK/Ireland) or somewhere similar when they have a promo on.

    Lets take your argument the other way - Are heavy machinery drivers going to be the only ones buying a Lego Mercedes Arocs?

    Either way - Lego makes sets for kids and AFOLs - they are the people who buy the vast majority of the sets - Mr Porsche fan might put money in TLGs pockets once in a blue moon, not on a regular basis. Industries make the vast majority of their money from regular custom.
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,012
    CCC said:
    maybe in another 8 years when this price catches up with inflation it will sell well, but I just can't see the majority of people buying this, especially when this set is the most expensive set ever, next to the UCS MF and those serious play sets, and it's definitely not the largest set.
    I doubt if the majority of people bought the last one either.
    TLG have made sure with lazy redesign that no-one with the old one (#10188) has a reason to buy the new one.
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,698
    edited August 2016
    It would be interesting to know how many  people commenting on the new Death Star already own #10188.

    LEGO had to look at the market when they decided it was time to reset the price on the Death Star, and take a shot at creating a successor that would maximize sales. There are people who own #10188, and those who don't. A lot of people who already own #10188 probably were not going to drop another $400 for a new one, much less $500 or more, even for a major update, simply because that's a big chunk of money. People who were in the market but did not buy #10188 probably were not actually going to buy an updated but similar version for more money than the one they passed up. People who were not yet in the market when #10188 retired did not have it to compare against, so they would tend to be less critical of the lack of improvements, and might not even know that there was a prior version. 

    I have not read every review of #10188 on Brickset, but of 33 reviews there are 32 5-star reviews and one 4-star review. Why would TLG mess with the design of a set that gets nothing but 5-star reviews? When do we start seeing MOCs with the missing improvements?

    #10188 is one of my favorite sets. I bought mine used (but complete except for one inner box) for $80. I'd pick up the new one for a similarly ridiculous deal, but would not have paid MSRP for #10188 or the new version, because that is nearly half of my annual LEGO budget. 
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  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,012
    edited August 2016
    ^ As a current owner of 10188, I would've bought a new DS had it not been almost exactly the same as the old one. I want to buy Lego - I enjoy building it, but i'm not going to buy the same set twice. 1960's Batcave was the last set I bought purely for myself, and it's looking like the new UCS Snowspeeder will be my next one (I don't have the old Snowspeeder, so even if it is a lazy copy, I will be getting it). A proper UCS ISD after the Snowspeeder would be next on my want list if a Cavegod-like UCS AT-AT never rears its mechanical head)

    I'm used to seeing improvements with newer sets of the same subject matter - is TLG being extremely lazy or can 10188 just not be improved because it is perfect?

    I feel like TLG gave the UCS SW designers the year off.

    With such a long period between 2 sets that interest me, I do think that my interest in Lego might be on the wane - TLG need to keep the target market interested - perhaps the dedicated AFOL with money in their pockets is no longer the target market (or at least the supplementary market to the rabidly eager 5-12  year olds who almost certainly are the biggest single group of Lego consumers)?
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    I'm a 987 Spyder owner plus Lego crackhead, so it's a given for me. But a buddy of mine comes over to visit a couple weeks ago, who was a Porsche 911 Turbo (997) owner. First thing he said was "Have you seen the new Porsche set?! I've been visiting the SD Lego store every week for a month but it's sold out." Never touched Lego before and I still can't imagine him actually sitting down to spend hours building it. But boy is he excited to get one. Jumping into the deep end of Technic with one of it's biggest set ever. It will become an awesome paperweight somewhere in his house collecting dust until the end of time.

    Like everyone else, I'm quite disappointed with the DS rehash. It's just such a wasted opportunity. But those damn updated figs, sigh... So with #10188 still new and sealed, I'm in a dilemma like many others. Do I open the one I have and skip the new one, get both and build the new one, or sell the old one to get the new one for an equal swap. Anyone else pondering these important life decisions? Curious to know which way you're leaning.
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,012
    ^ Although I do like Minifigs, a few more armprints on the same figs isn't going to persuade me to ditch the old DS to buy the new one for 50% more - C3PO/Stormtrooper Han etc still look like what they're supposed to be in old or new styley.

    How many completionists out there care enough to see the 2 DSs side by side and want to pay £450 aftermarket for the old one if the new one is marginally better (on the strength of the figs alone) if they don't yet have the old one? not many i'd imagine. I think that TLG has had a laugh at the expense of everyone stashing 10188s for the aftermarket, even if it was not their primary concern when doing the rehash.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Near ManchesterMember Posts: 4,080
    Hey look! The world is still turning and the sun still rises in the morning! ;)
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  • SprinkleOtterSprinkleOtter Member Posts: 2,751
    I feel bad for anyone who stockpiled the old DS before it retired....

    "It's finally selling out! Let's get a hundred and put Billy through college when we sell them in a few years!"
    fast forward a few months... "DANG IT!!!!!!!!"
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    monkeyhanger said:

    You are still talking about the tiny proportion of the wider market, not "the" wider market.
    Nope. There are whole store chains dedicated to selling boyz toyz, and without which no high-end shopping centre is complete.
    Besides, you are talking about Porsche drivers for a Porsche Lego model
    Nope again. There are plenty of people who aspire to owning a Porsche that have the same attitude. A Porsche owner doesn't buy an "experience day", but they still get sold. (I don't mean track days - the fun of driving a Porsche is not driving it round a track.)

    I only used Porsche as an example because it's probably easier to understand than many of the other fan-themes for people who aren't followers of those themes.
    If there are 5 sets an AFOL wants in a given year, they may find the means and will to drop that money on it
    AFOL? OK, if you say so. There are people around here who buy that number each week. And whilst that may include much smaller sets, there are still people who buy a good number of more expensive sets in a year.

    As TLG seemingly release more and more exclusive sets at higher and higher prices there's a point at which everbody says "Enough!" because the total cost of all the desirable sets is effectively exponential. Nor is it about being about to "find the means"; it's about being comfortable that doing so is sensible and value for money. I would no more buy #42056 at £250 than I would a real one at £300,000, and the reason is exactly the same as has nothing to do with affordability - because I'm not interested in Porsche, neither are worth it. Other people obviously think differently.
    Lets take your argument the other way - Are heavy machinery drivers going to be the only ones buying a Lego Mercedes Arocs?
    Do you think that only truck drivers are interested in such things? That only trains drivers buy trains? That only farmers will buy #42054. They all have fan clubs, mainly of people who look but aren't really able to touch - and who spend small fortunes pursuing their hobby.
    Either way - Lego makes sets for kids and AFOLs - they are the people who buy the vast majority of the sets - Mr Porsche fan might put money in TLGs pockets once in a blue moon, not on a regular basis. Industries make the vast majority of their money from regular custom.
    That is the greatest shame of it all.

    All these exclusive sets appeal to a lot of AFOLs. But they are overpriced. The Bucket Wheel Excavator is the largest ever Technic set - pretty much 1½ times the size of the Porsche, yet the prices are the other way around. A difference of that magnitude is not going to be down to royalties. It's because the Porsche fan-base will more than cover any of the Technic fan-base that drops out because of the price because the increased profit margin skews the figures.

    Those regular customers, us and the kids, will still be there tomorrow, but that's all forgotten when it comes to those special sets that are likely to appeal to people who are generally uninterested. Most other manufacturers would price things normally and if that meant that other people made purchases, it would considered a bonus.

    Maybe we don't count - we're adults playing with toys. But how many kids are going to look at the new Death Star - and be disappointed because it's just too expensive. The Death Star isn't even a model - it's a playset. But the kids are what makes the world go round for TLG, but they're losing sight of that.
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,922
    I find it a bit weird how people continue referring to the Death Star as a "playset" as if that somehow excludes it from being a collectors' item or display piece. When I look at it (new or old version), I see a collection of vignettes assembled into a larger model, and vignettes most definitely qualify as display items. The only aspect that stands out as purely a play feature is the firing missiles.

    It may not be realistic to assume teen and adult collectors don't care about play value, either. This is far from the first time LEGO has aimed a "playset" at teens and adults. As I've said before, I think people have been looking at a lot of recent sets as though the UCS badge is somehow a special status that separates the men from the boys, when really all it does is separate the D2C Star Wars sets from their smaller retail cousins.

    This isn't even the first year when both D2C/UCS Star Wars sets have been playsets — that would go to 2009, when the two D2C sets were #10195 Republic Dropship and #10198 Tantive IV. Both sets had the same 14+ age rating as the Death Star, and were easily just as play-oriented. Were there any complaints back then about a lack of "real" UCS sets? I wasn't really involved in the AFOL community at that time, particularly the Star Wars side of things.
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  • bobabricksbobabricks Vancouver, BC, CanadaMember Posts: 1,842
    @Aanchir I was more or less venting my anger towards Insult on Hoth when I said playset. Still not over it...
  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,365
    Sept 30 release date! 


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  • bobabricksbobabricks Vancouver, BC, CanadaMember Posts: 1,842
    I think somebody saw my McRib post before they made that calendar...


  • willobee498willobee498 CanadalandMember Posts: 349
    More importantly, a free advent calendar with a purchase!
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  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,690
    ^ yes spend $99 for x amount of bricks that won't make all the models at the same time. Can't wait for it.
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