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  • monkey_roomonkey_roo Member Posts: 1,411

    Well, as the guys who started the thread and who has already been promised this set as a very beliated Christmas present, i can safely say i will be getting this at the weekend.

    While i agree the set has not delivered in the way the Ewok Village did, I do agree with the 'Its not that bad' view, it is to expensive and certainly should not have the UCS sticker on the front, but as a play set it has a lot going for it and since i am lucky enough to own all the previous sets and an AT-AT I plan on displaying the lot together on a shelf using the doors from this and the 2007 set to sit either side of the base.

    It might need a little tinkering with but overall i think having the lot together will look pretty good.

    Dtrimpi87MrJ_NY
  • jediami65jediami65 Member Posts: 474
    My 5 year old son is eyeing this set, and while I am not crazy about it, I do see myself buying one for him an one for myself and finally opening up the other Hoth sets I have and building a bigger, better, Battle on Hoth. 
  • ryjayryjay Member Posts: 1,001
    I have no intention of spending money on this set
  • monstblitzmonstblitz Member Posts: 653
    edited April 2016
    As a newer member of this board, I'm slowly starting to see a trend develop:  Disappointing set announced.  Pages upon pages of complaints about set.  Nobody intends to buy.  As release approaches slowly the tune changes to - It's not that bad, I'll buy it...fast forward to release, dozens of people posting pictures with their brand new disappointing set!  LOL.  Gotta love Lego.
    FurrysaurusSumoLegocatwrangler
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    monstblitz said:
    As a newer member of this board, I'm slowly starting to see a trend develop:  Disappointing set announced.  Pages upon pages of complaints about set.  Nobody intends to buy.  As release approaches slowly the tune changes to - It's not that bad, I'll buy it...fast forward to release, dozens of people posting pictures with their brand new disappointing set!  LOL.  Gotta love Lego.
    and yet, with the batcave. it more a set people buy to fix and expand on. then to just build and display. take the F40 car model that came out last year. you buy, you build, you display. but the batcave, you buy, you build, you buy more part's, you MOC, you display! Hoth will be the same, you buy, you build, you buy more parts, you MOC, you buy yet more parts, you MOC more, you display! then you note that you are £1000 out of pocket!
    monstblitzcatwrangler
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,383
    edited April 2016
    @monstblitz
    Concerning the Hoth set, I think that the biggest disappointment, for me anyway, is that it is labelled UCS and has taken up a spot, which as a fan of the UCS series, could have been used for something more suitable.
    I know there is no exact definition of the UCS branding, but to my mind, this set is as far away from it as you could get, especially when you look at what can be achieved with the big, display only, sets that TLG have produced past and present (Just look at the Porsche). 
    Don't get me wrong though, I still like the set and as it is, it would make a nice starting block for a Hoth battle scene, providing you have the other elements to do so (AT-AT's, AT-ST's and more than 2 Soldiers) which is unfortunate for many, as they discontinued one of the major sets to do that last year.
    That brings me to my other gripe with the UCS branding of this set, IMO, being as though it is 'The Ultimate Collectors Series' it should not need to have extra sets added to it to make it "Ultimate".
    If this had been released as a wave of sets, to build your own version of the Assault on Hoth, I would have been throwing my money at TLG throughout the year to buy the whole wave, as it is, in a single purchase I am finding it very hard to justify all in one go.
    chrisalddin
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    @bandit778
    i am with you here. if it had been a group of set's and not one big set, i have got some parts of it, and lego would have made more money in the long run.
    bandit778
  • msandersmsanders Member Posts: 1,017
    Annoyingly for me, I sold all my Hoth sets last year in preparation for spending my money on an epic Hoth UCS set. Now I'm just going to go through my collection of white bricks and make my own Hoth Base. The new set doesn't appear to have many new elements so it shouldn't be too hard to replicate (and improve upon of course!). 
    bandit778
  • GIR3691GIR3691 Member Posts: 674
    This is still my favorite Hoth-based playset. It has everything in one neat, folding package. If LEGO had done a fully-loaded ice wall with all the trimmings, it would have been a must-have.

    catwranglerbrickupdategmonkey76
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    ^I have this downstairs in the basement 
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,794
    I personally like the Kenner mini die cast micro collection sets back in the early 80's that they made for the death star and hoth. I think they did one for Bespin as well. My brother still has the completed hoth and the two Death Star ones I had.
    Pitfall69
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 Administrator Posts: 2,364
    @msanders - The set does not feature any new elements, except for some new prints of course.
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    CapnRex101 said:
    @msanders - The set does not feature any new elements, except for some new prints of course.
    and this to me is 1 more point to not buy the set.
  • msandersmsanders Member Posts: 1,017
    @CapnRex101 as I suspected. Thanks. I'm definitely just going to build it from the pieces I have and get from Bricklink the bits I'm missing. Probably going to save myself a lot of money. 
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 Administrator Posts: 2,364
    I have posted my review: http://brickset.com/article/20575/review-75098-assault-on-hoth I hope everyone finds it useful.
    [Deleted User]Lobotbandit778Rainstorm26thedingman5ryjay
  • flordflord Member Posts: 797
    A nice and thorough review @CapnRex101. Thank you for summarizing all the issues with this one. I hope TLG designers read it and take it to heart.
    [Deleted User]bandit778
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    it's going down. IN FIRE!
  • BrewBrew Member Posts: 183
    After seeing this review, and I think it's spot on, I really feel sad. I especially feel bad for the designer(s) because I really think they were set up for failure. It absolutely feels like poor leadership doomed this set. Not only is it the worst UCS set ever, the vignettes would be bad as individual sets. I don't think I've ever seen such unfinished looking builds. Before this review, I thought it was overpriced and not grand enough to be considered UCS. Now I just think it's a terrible set period. 
    bandit778
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,383
    @CapnRex101
    An extremely brutal but very honest review, I tip my hat to you sir.
    I know some will buy this, it is Lego after all, but in an ideal world, my hope would be that nobody brought this, just to send a message that this is not good enough for a premium priced product.
    At most it should have been a wave of smaller sets based around the same theme.

    Since getting back into Lego I have wanted to obtain a good percentage of TLG's sets from the Star Wars theme, but this would have to be heavily discounted before it even came close to thinking about purchasing this set.
    [Deleted User]
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    bandit778 said:
    @CapnRex101
    An extremely brutal but very honest review, I tip my hat to you sir.
    I know some will buy this, it is Lego after all, but in an ideal world, my hope would be that nobody brought this, just to send a message that this is not good enough for a premium priced product.
    At most it should have been a wave of smaller sets based around the same theme.

    Since getting back into Lego I have wanted to obtain a good percentage of TLG's sets from the Star Wars theme, but this would have to be heavily discounted before it even came close to thinking about purchasing this set.
    agree,
    i view this set in the same way as #60097 and would pay about the same price for it.
    however saying that i would still say #60097 was the better set for look's.
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    I have spent most of the evening going over and over Chris' front page review in hope I can see something, something I have missed.  But I can't.  It's utter shite.

    My favourite picture is the back of the slider doors with the highly intricate 5-piece UCS crane hanging off to the side.  I mean, why?  What did they hope to achieve?  Being the grumpy bugger I am, it's rare I laugh out, but I did.  It's completely hopeless. 
    bandit778chrisalddinLobotBumblepants[Deleted User]
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,383
    ^ did you not set the bright yellow five piece crane that fell over in the special edition deleted scenes?
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    ^ I'm afraid I'm a Theatrical OT fan.  ;)

    I mean, I desperately want to like it.  I need an excuse to buy it as I have every other UCS and Hoth set, but I can't find one.  It would go against every ounce of common sense in my body to pay retail or even 70-80% retail.

    I'm saving my money for a Porsche.
    bandit778
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,383
    At least it solves the long argument about what is a UCS set......

    Just about anything by the look of it.
    Rainstorm26MaffyD
  • FauchFauch Member Posts: 2,679
    don't worry, I can give you a reason.
    Galidor.

    see, that hoth set suddenly looks awesome.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    Never a good sign when you have to compare it to Galidor...
  • ISDAvengerISDAvenger Member Posts: 205
    I'm still getting it. With help replace some of the items in my past retired Hoths sets I have sold in the past. 
  • HokieJoe99HokieJoe99 Member Posts: 351
    A recolor of #8038 to white would have been a better Assault on Hoth than this, even if they left the catapult (it was there you just didn't see it, like the lookout tower).  At least that set came with an AT-ST. 
  • Rainstorm26Rainstorm26 Member Posts: 1,013
    Anyone know if the Wampa is the same as in the last set?
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 Administrator Posts: 2,364
    @Rainstorm26 - It is identical.
    thedingman5
  • monkey_roomonkey_roo Member Posts: 1,411
    Well, as advertised I now own the Assult on Hoth set. It was a large shopping day :)
    the chap in the store wouldn't be drawn on how well the set had sold throughout the day but it was fair to say it wasn't getting much attention in the store and he did stay they were well stocked.


    MrJ_NY
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,169
    ^ So TLG sold one today. ;)
    TheBrickPal
  • ryjayryjay Member Posts: 1,001
    All I can say about this UCS set is ..."it is just too bad what little understanding Lego put into this".   And since the Batcave was shown in the above pix, I'll say the same about that set ;(
    Rsa33MrJ_NY
  • deephorsedeephorse Member Posts: 83
    monkeyhanger said:
    ^ So TLG sold one today. ;)
    No, they sold at least two.  I caved in and got one.  Going to try to MOC it into something it should have been!  What else am I going to do with my 200+ Snowtroopers and three AT-ATs?
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,169
    ^ Now that's what I call an assault on Hoth!
    bobabricksTheMaker37
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 Member Posts: 1,831
    I saw them sell 2 insult on hoth while I was there this morning.
    madforLEGO
  • monkey_roomonkey_roo Member Posts: 1,411
    So, that makes four, keep going like this and we may well be publishing the official UK sales figure :)
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,383
    Soooooooooo, enough about Hoth as we know what we got (or didn't in many cases), what are we getting as a new Death Star.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,794
    bandit778 said:
    Soooooooooo, enough about Hoth as we know what we got (or didn't in many cases), what are we getting as a new Death Star.
    My guess is a scale model, like DS II was, coinciding with Rogue one release
    [Deleted User]
  • bobabricksbobabricks Member Posts: 1,842
    I also got one today but I only really got it because I got a really good deal on it and I'm in need of white parts, I'll probably try to get some of my money back off the figures and stickers, but I'm KEEPING the Wampa! :D
    MrJ_NY
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    monkey_roo said:

    Well, as advertised I now own the Assult on Hoth set.



    Traitor.
    [Deleted User]pharmjodDedgeckoA.Brickovsky
  • Legopassion8Legopassion8 Member Posts: 1,181
    ^Back off the Ewoks fan! :p
  • MrJ_NYMrJ_NY Member Posts: 592
    I also picked up AoH after using some VIP points to bring the price down where it belongs.Combining this with 7879 should make a rather nice large base & I've got all the time in the world to add bricks/MOC to my preference. I believe had TLG not stuck a UCS symbol on the box this set would not have received as much hate as it has.Sure people would argue the rehash aspect but it's certainly not the first or last time TLG has/will issue rehashed sets.
    I think AFOL's in general were already in a negative mood due to the disappointment with Winter Village & Batcave this year.Don't hate on the designers as they're merely employees instructed to do what TLG told them to,just like the majority of us do every day at the workplace.Like it,hate it,no one is forcing you to buy it. Don't forget at the end of the day,it IS intended to be a kids toy.

    Jang's review is up for anyone interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0aE0NEYhL0
    catwranglerTheBigLegoski
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Member Posts: 1,643
    I'm tempted by this one now. So few will be sold but people will want the minifigures (they can't help themselves). If you're into MOCing a Hoth world and don't do minifigures you could sell them for basically the whole price of the set (as they will be so rare). Maybe.
    Or I'll just dump my cash into more Endor related sets and forget this set ever happened.
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    MattsWhat said:
    I'm tempted by this one now. So few will be sold but people will want the minifigures (they can't help themselves). If you're into MOCing a Hoth world and don't do minifigures you could sell them for basically the whole price of the set (as they will be so rare). Maybe.
    Or I'll just dump my cash into more Endor related sets and forget this set ever happened.
    go with the Endor plan!
    dont see how you can go wrong with that.
  • ryjayryjay Member Posts: 1,001
    MattsWhat said:

    and forget this set ever happened.
    ^ this is the best approach....exactly what I'm doing :)
    chrisalddin
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,794
    Knowing that I can afford to buy such an expensive set, and not being silly enough to pay so much for something I consider so overpriced (especially when the Assault on Hoth has no AT-AT), helps get me to not this set, or the Ewok village even.
    Will they go up after EOL? Inevitably yes. However I do not want these cluttering up my storage area. It is also one reason I am glad that I no longer try to collect SW (stopped once they started released new (and often better) versions of the same set they already released.
    The difference I see behind Endor and Hoth UCS sets though is that I am not sure that we will see such a set like Endor in any kind of scale again (as it is the whole tree 'village'). I think though that all of the 'sets' for the Hoth UCS will likely be released again as individual sets.

    If I were a casual collector, and I were to buy a UCS, I would rather buy the Sandcrawler to be honest. At least I think it will be rare to see that set again in any form once the UCS one is gone. Whereas Slave 1, albeit in lesser scale and detail, will likely return once the UCS one is gone. UCS EV would be right up there as well because I doubt you will see the tree village in a lesser detail in a non-UCS set, but likely the bunker again.
  • desantisdesantis Member Posts: 11
    I've been saving up for the Star Wars double points event, and showed my kids videos of the Sandcrawler, Ewok Village, and Assault on Hoth, then told them to pick one.  They picked Ewok Village, no question.  Second choice would have been Sandcrawler, which we might pick up next year if it's still around.
  • LegoAerologistLegoAerologist Member Posts: 25

    Can you tell me about the snow speeder.

    On a recent expedition I recovered fragments of one. Can you direct me to a manual, or tell me how many versions  Lego officially produced?

  • LobotLobot Member Posts: 1,029
    LegoAerologist said:

    Can you tell me about the snow speeder.

    On a recent expedition I recovered fragments of one. Can you direct me to a manual, or tell me how many versions  Lego officially produced?


    @LegoAerologist - set that include one are as follows:

    #7130 - Snowspeeder (1999)

    #4500 - Rebel Snowspeeder (2004)

    #10129 - Rebel Snowspeeder (2004)

    #7666 - Hoth Rebel Base (2007)

    #8029 - Mini Rebel Snowspeeder (2008)

    #8089 - Hoth Wampa Cave (2010)

    #75014 - Battle of Hoth (2013)

    #75049 - Snowspeeder (2015)

    And, of course, the 'Insult on Hoth' (2016)

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