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The Dates for Pre Easter 2016 Lego Store/[email protected] Double VIP Points.

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  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,062
    edited March 2016
    leetshoe said:
    Did LEGO start charging shipping? l thought it was free. l was about to buy the Ewok Village and they want to charge an extra $17 to ship it.
    You sure it was shipping and not tax? Last I checked shipping was and still is free over a certain amount (and certainly if you are buying a 249.99 USD set) or did you choose a quicker shipping option inadvertently during checkout?

    I bought a pet shop last night for 149.99 and got free shipping.
  • leetshoeleetshoe USAMember Posts: 255
    leetshoe said:
    Did LEGO start charging shipping? l thought it was free. l was about to buy the Ewok Village and they want to charge an extra $17 to ship it.
    You sure it was shipping and not tax? Last I checked shipping was and still is free over a certain amount (and certainly if you are buying a 249.99 USD set) or did you choose a quicker shipping option inadvertently during checkout?

    I bought a pet shop last night for 149.99 and got free shipping.
    Yeah, l was sure. But it looks like it's fixed now. Weird glitch
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,439
    leetshoe said:
    Did LEGO start charging shipping? l thought it was free. l was about to buy the Ewok Village and they want to charge an extra $17 to ship it.
    Shipping should be free on Ewok Village. Are you sure you do not have a faster shipping option checked? It could just be a glitch.
  • flordflord CanadaMember Posts: 780
    leetshoe said:
    Did LEGO start charging shipping? l thought it was free. l was about to buy the Ewok Village and they want to charge an extra $17 to ship it.
    Website error I would assume. Anything over $75 is free. Unless you live someplace weird maybe.
  • DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
    This promo is available until March 22?  That would be awesome as I can plan on what I can afford this week and actually visit one of the stores this weekend to see what is new.
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    Dougout said:
    This promo is available until March 22?  That would be awesome as I can plan on what I can afford this week and actually visit one of the stores this weekend to see what is new.
    yep this you can do.
    me i been planning for this for well over 6 week's.
    as i have worked out that this is a event lego do every year at this time.
    there should be a 2nd 2x vip event later on in the year.
  • DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
    Dougout said:
    This promo is available until March 22?  That would be awesome as I can plan on what I can afford this week and actually visit one of the stores this weekend to see what is new.
    yep this you can do.
    me i been planning for this for well over 6 week's.
    as i have worked out that this is a event lego do every year at this time.
    there should be a 2nd 2x vip event later on in the year.
    Great, I always remember the promo around Christmas time, but I always forget about this one.  Thanks!!
  • koshkakoshka UK/SwedenMember Posts: 193
    Pitfall69 said:
    leetshoe said:
    Did LEGO start charging shipping? l thought it was free. l was about to buy the Ewok Village and they want to charge an extra $17 to ship it.
    Shipping should be free on Ewok Village. Are you sure you do not have a faster shipping option checked? It could just be a glitch.
    Definitely one of their website errors. It was trying to charge 125kr for Swedish delivery for much of yesterday afternoon (as well as leaving out the free MF, greying out the card details or Confirm button so that you couldn't order anyway).
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 6,846
    Well it wouldn't be a worthwhile [email protected] promotion without at least a couple website glitches.
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  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    chrisalddin said:

    as i have worked out that this is a event lego do every year at this time.
    there should be a 2nd 2x vip event later on in the year.
    Every? They haven't been doing it that long.

    Sadly it replaced much better offers. I remember getting Tower bridge for almost 25% off the day before it's launch (essentially because it was on the shelves early and the then-current offer finished that day). A similar discount applied to other iconic sets from that time - a time when you genuinely couldn't get them anywhere else.

    50% scratchcards, anyone?

    Sigh!
  • brumeybrumey AustriaMember Posts: 1,002
    i am wondering, which is better:
    double vip
    or
    -20% at my local toyshop

    double vip is basically -10%, right?
  • catwranglercatwrangler Northern IrelandMember Posts: 1,890
    TigerMoth said:
    catwrangler said:

    I think on balance I'll be happiest getting the Palace Cinema from [email protected] now - it's very true that I could wait for a good TRU offer to come along, but find it out of stock on their website...
    You're probably right. You also have Smyths and their likely Christmas deal, but there's also a slight risk that it may disappear before then. But something more recent...
    I was going to say that NI is sadly without Smyths, but a visit to their website reveals otherwise - I'd guess that they're in the Toymaster franchise, and their warehouse store is probably the source of a Toymaster catalogue I ran across last year.

    I'll keep it in mind in case my circumstances change re: ease of getting lifts in the future, but for now I'm happy with last night's [email protected] Palace Cinema purchase.
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    brumey said:
    i am wondering, which is better:
    double vip
    or
    -20% at my local toyshop

    double vip is basically -10%, right?
    yep basically 10%. in the form of instore/[email protected] credit.

  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    well my Easter gift this year, is money and with a the help of the bank of mum and dad. (mostly mum.)  she going to lend me the money to make up the difference so i can get the 3rd Palace Cinema that i am going to need now. as i change the plan for that MOC. the 2 set's i have on order are not going to cut it.
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  • brumeybrumey AustriaMember Posts: 1,002
    not finding anything to buy at [email protected]! as i dont want to buy multiple modulars. and the small sets all are 20% off at my local toyshop!

    maybe its goin to be #75917 Auf der Fährte des T-Rex and #75918 Raptor-Randale 
    or #10236 ewok village! as i have a feeling those will D2C first!
    whats good about those sets to justify a purchase?
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    brumey said:
    not finding anything to buy at [email protected]! as i dont want to buy multiple modulars. and the small sets all are 20% off at my local toyshop!

    maybe its goin to be #75917 Auf der Fährte des T-Rex and #75918 Raptor-Randale 
    or #10236 ewok village! as i have a feeling those will D2C first!
    whats good about those sets to justify a purchase?
    if you like #10236. ( and even i like it just no real place to display it and Sandcrawler is higher on my list.) then it's not a bad buy.
    it is one of them sets that i count as hard to get my hands on with 10% or more off.
    so the 2x vip points for this set is not a bad deal.
    i dont know anything about the other 2 set's you listed. Jurassic World set's i have never looked at. well looked for a moment. long enough to identified what it was then move on, i never took a real look at them maybe someone other then me may know more out the JW set's.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    brumey said:
    i am wondering, which is better:
    double vip
    or
    -20% at my local toyshop

    double vip is basically -10%, right?
    Closer to 9%, so even worse. It's at best 9.0909...% off.
    Pitfall69
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    edited March 2016
    CCC said:
    brumey said:
    i am wondering, which is better:
    double vip
    or
    -20% at my local toyshop

    double vip is basically -10%, right?
    Closer to 9%, so even worse. It's at best 9.0909...% off.
    how you come to them numbers?

    you spend £100
    you get 100 points.
    this get boosted to 200 point from 2x VIP Bonus.
    200 points is £10 and £10 is 10% of £100
  • jadeirenejadeirene US, CaliforniaMember Posts: 475
    ^ You don't get 10 off of 100.  You have to spend at least another 10 to use that credit, which is 10 off of 110, which is 9.09...%.
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  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    catwrangler said:

    I was going to say that NI is sadly without Smyths, but a visit to their website reveals otherwise - I'd guess that they're in the Toymaster franchise, and their warehouse store is probably the source of a Toymaster catalogue I ran across last year.
    Wrong on all counts. Smyths has nothing to do with Toymaster. It has totally independent pricing, ranking up there with TRU, and is probably it's closest rival. Some people may argue which of the two is the more significant player.

    FWIW Toymaster doesn't have franchises either. It's one of a couple of buying groups active in the UK. It's important from the point of view of LEGO products because TLG doesn't deal directly with small retailers. It also means that offers are fairly limited because there's an extra company looking for a cut. Smyths simply doesn't need a buying group (it's turnover runs into the hundred of millons), and therefore gains the flexibility to do more or less what it likes - and is therefore the source of some very good bargains.

    Northern Ireland without Smyths would be a little odd, because it's an Irish company and I imagine that would've been the first target for expansion outside it's home territory.
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  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    jadeirene said:
    ^ You don't get 10 off of 100.  You have to spend at least another 10 to use that credit, which is 10 off of 110, which is 9.09...%.
    it is 10% of the money you spend in one shop.
    if you Spend point yes the numbers go down.
    but as others have said, dont spend point at 2x vip time.
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    chrisalddin said:

    how you come to them numbers?
    It depends on how you do the calculations.

    You can say that spending £100, gives you £100 worth of LEGO sets and £10 to spend later on a set that is effectively full price . Or you can say that spending £100 give you £110 worth of sets, when the discount applies across all the sets. They give different percentages.

    Both methods are equally valid and it depends on your point of view, but I suspect that won't stop people arguing why "their method" is right.
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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    jadeirene said:
    ^ You don't get 10 off of 100.  You have to spend at least another 10 to use that credit, which is 10 off of 110, which is 9.09...%.
    it is 10% of the money you spend in one shop.
    if you Spend point yes the numbers go down.
    but as others have said, dont spend point at 2x vip time.
    It's nothing to do with spending points.

    If you get 10% off, then you get £100 worth of stuff for £90. That is not what happens here. You get £110 worth of Lego for £100 (£100 worth now for £100 and £10 worth later for free). Both give £10 worth free, but one is 10% off, the other is 9.09% off.
    jadeireneMattsWhatkiki180703Pitfall69
  • thebeermonkeythebeermonkey GlasgowMember Posts: 390
    What you are getting is £10 credit for every £100 you spend. The percentage you get off depends on how much you spend on the next purchase. If you use that £10 credit to purchase something at £10, you are effectively getting 100% off but use it against a set at £100, you are getting 10% off. In both cases, you will get £10 off a set. 
    chrisalddinkiki180703WatfordScottyM
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    well any how.
    order for the 3rd Palace Cinema i need for my Moc is now placed.
    and with luck will ship out in the next 24 hours.

    i think the best way to look at it is @thebeermonkey system.
    on the 1st of April i will be placing a order for City of Stiix and a small 7.99 city set.
    this order will cost me from my bank £2.98
    so i have to ask what % would that be?  
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Studley, UKMember Posts: 1,643
    edited March 2016
    ^9.090909...% on everything except the £2.98 which is at 4.54545...%
    Assuming of course all those points were earned during 2x events, and you continue to spend which I believe is a given.
    However you work it out, it is a set % that isn't quite 5 (or 10 during events). It isn't variable based on your spend and isn't in question, @CCC is correct, listen to him.
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    MattsWhat said:
    @CCC is correct, listen to him.
    Don't you start again. There isn't a "correct" answer - the different interpretations are equally valid.

    You make a purchase and are given a "token". If someone wants to, it's perfectly legitimate to consider that token in the same was as you would a slightly different "token" that happened to be issued by the Bank of England rather than TLG.
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  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Studley, UKMember Posts: 1,643
    Maths isn't open to interpretation. So for the people that care about the math rather than want they fancy it to be worth, @CCC is correct. (notice the full stop). 
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  • Jern92Jern92 MalaysiaMember Posts: 836
    MattsWhat said:
    Maths isn't open to interpretation. So for the people that care about the math rather than want they fancy it to be worth, @CCC is correct. (notice the full stop). 
    Honestly I'm surprised how many people think Maths is open to interpretation. The education system has failed.
    MattsWhatkiki180703
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Studley, UKMember Posts: 1,643
    ^some maths is still being interpreted I guess, but not %.
    Interestingly @chrisalddin would be better off spending his £2.98 and getting those sets now, during the double points event.  It is only a good idea not to spend points during doubling events *if you can afford to spend the money instead*.  But in this situation, if you wait until the 1st April then you will have 2.98 points on your account, if you ordered now you would have 5.96 points (which is more obviously).  Assuming you can't afford to order with real money then it's better to get sets now.  Which I'm sure you will be pleased to hear ;)

  • FireheartFireheart Suffolk, UKMember Posts: 620
    Just had the shipping email for the SOH, noticed that the order total was £291.66. The subtotal was £249.99, and then VAT £41.67... Which was added on...

    Hope it's another glitch on the system side...
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    MattsWhat said:
    ^some maths is still being interpreted I guess, but not %.
    Interestingly @chrisalddin would be better off spending his £2.98 and getting those sets now, during the double points event.  It is only a good idea not to spend points during doubling events *if you can afford to spend the money instead*.  But in this situation, if you wait until the 1st April then you will have 2.98 points on your account, if you ordered now you would have 5.96 points (which is more obviously).  Assuming you can't afford to order with real money then it's better to get sets now.  Which I'm sure you will be pleased to hear ;)

    the April buy, is for the April freebie.
    if the freebie is no good then i will wait for May.
    MattsWhatkiki180703
  • WatfordScottyMWatfordScottyM Member Posts: 453
    In reality you're not getting any % off.  If I buy £100 of lego I get a £10 voucher.  If I stop there and never make another purchase I've got 0% off.  As the original transaction and any subsequent purchases are unrelated you shouldn't really lump them in together.

    As @thebeermonkey said above, if you're next purchase is for £10 you are getting 100% off.  Trying to apply % in this case is misleading.  Ignore % and just accept that you are getting £10 of Lego for free.

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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    Ignore % and just accept that you are getting £10 of Lego for free.

    Yet the only reason you get £10 of lego "for free" was because you spent £100. They could have another deal where you get £20 of free lego if you spend £500. Which is the better offer, the £10 free or the £20 free? It is all down to percentages.
    MattsWhatkiki180703
  • WatfordScottyMWatfordScottyM Member Posts: 453
    That depends whether you were going to spend the money anyway.  Or if you only spent £100 to get the £10 free.
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,255
    edited March 2016
    I tend to look at [email protected] and Lego store purchase VIP points as a discount off future purchases only and whatever I pay for the items to get the VIP points is not taken into account as the money has already been spent.
    I only tend to buy from TLG if there is a sale, double points, a promotion that I want or parts orders for builds. I haven't as yet spent any of my VIP points from the last 12 months but am instead saving them up for using against one big purchase. That is the set that I will class as discounted for whatever percentage I get off it at the time.
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  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    MattsWhat said:
    Maths isn't open to interpretation. So for the people that care about the math rather than want they fancy it to be worth, @CCC is correct. (notice the full stop). 
    This isn't about interpreting maths. It's about how you are interpreting something to which you subsequently apply a mathematical process. Different interpretations are therefore possible and equally valid.

    In one scenario you are including a possible (and only possible, no more) future transaction in the calculation; in another, you are only including the transaction that has actually taken place on the day in question. Both are valid.

    For what it's worth, I've spent most of my life caring about maths.
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Studley, UKMember Posts: 1,643
    edited March 2016
    ^I didn't think you wanted 'to start'.  But if you do, then you need to stop 'caring' about Maths and start doing some.  There is not any valid interpretations, not even one valid interpretation because it is not that, it is a fact that during double points the saving is 9.09% or 0% (if you never use the points). That's it.
  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,255
    I agree that maths are not open to interpretation. 
    Peoples perspective of the VIP points are.
    On one hand you have the 9.09% over total purchases which is correct.
    On another you have the pay full price on the day, never use the points 0% brigade.
    On another you have the pay full price on the day, not take into account the VIP points, but then use the points against a purchase in the future to get X% off whatever new set they buy.
    Different people have different views, all of which may have the same outcome in the long run but it doesn't mean that their way of looking at it is wrong.
    WatfordScottyMchrisalddinkiki180703
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    MattsWhat said:
    ^I didn't think you wanted 'to start'.  But if you do, then you need to stop 'caring' about Maths and start doing some.  There is not any valid interpretations, not even one valid interpretation because it is not that, it is a fact that during double points the saving is 9.09% or 0% (if you never use the points). That's it.
    Simply stating over and over that your view is the correct one, and that "it is fact", using full bold fonts, full stops and declaring that is the end of the matter does not change that it is not a fact and there are multiple interpretations (and not even just two - three have been presented here and I can instantly think of a fourth simple case, and there are a lot more).

    "Caring about maths" was something that you raised, implying that those who cared about maths have to agree with you. They don't. Again, and FWIW, I spent most of my life "doing some" - something that requires thinking about why you are doing something as well as what you are doing.
    bandit778 said:
    Different people have different views, all of which may have the same outcome in the long run but it doesn't mean that their way of looking at it is wrong.
    Exactly.
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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    bandit778 said:

    On one hand you have the 9.09% over total purchases which is correct.

    It's not. It's 9.09(recurring) at best. The "at best" is also important. Since it is often difficult to find a purchase for exactly £10, you end up spending even more to save £10 (with any excess spend at regular VIP points).

  • bandit778bandit778 Docking Bay 94. Member Posts: 2,255
    ^ As that percentage was the same as you stated in an earlier post I am not quite sure why your disagreeing, and the spending £10 exactly only applies if the original purchase was only £100. Buying 5 Sandcrawlers would be substantially more to spend at a later date (if there wasn't a limit to 1 per customer). 
  • thedingman5thedingman5 Great Lakes, USAMember Posts: 280
    And how different this discussion would be if everyone were saddled with the discount ban on exclusives!
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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    ^^ I also put "at best" when I first said it. The only time I have put 9.09% is for the specific example of buying £100 then £10 worth. Some people will be getting about 8-8.5% off (eg after spending £100, then buying about £20 worth to use the £10 off (50% off!)), others less still. Although of course then they will be getting points on the excess £10 spend, which they'll use against another future spend ...


  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    And how different this discussion would be if everyone were saddled with the discount ban on exclusives!
    It wouldn't. This thread is about VIP points and therefore brand stores. There may or may not be an actual ban on discounts for exclusives in brand stores outside the US, but it generally no longer happens.
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Studley, UKMember Posts: 1,643
    edited March 2016
    I keep saying it with bold and full stops and stuff because it is a fact. - you get £110 worth of stuff (whether that is vouchers you keep or don't use, lego or some combination of both) for £100.  You can interpret this however you like but that is what you are getting.  Which means that the £110 was at a saving of 9.0909... %.  There is no argument (although @TigerMoth , you can make one out of anything).
    Read it back, the original question was
    brumey said:
    i am wondering, which is better:
    double vip
    or
    -20% at my local toyshop

    double vip is basically -10%, right?
    And the answer is no, it is 9.090909...%.  The other spend is, in fact, irrelevant because you already have your £10 voucher, what you spend it on doesn't change your double points event saving.  There is no other possible answer (except wrong ones) or interpretation, peoples different views don't change the numbers involved.  Again, as you are clearly not understanding it, maths is not open to interpretation - the percentage in this case is a fact.  I can't be bothered to make this point more clearly, if you don't understand it, which you quite clearly don't, then spend your own money however you want and make up your own percentages.

    It wouldn't even bother to respond if it was only you that thought otherwise, but you keep pedalling your view that the % saving is an interpretation and could be different when it can't, it is a set in stone cold hard number, and that is 9.090909..%.  Stop trying to tell people otherwise and making something out of nothing.  The only possible situation where it isn't that number is if the person never intends to buy further Lego (0% saving as stated above) and I doubt very much that anyone around here is in the camp of 'I never intend to buy more Lego'.

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  • WatfordScottyMWatfordScottyM Member Posts: 453
    Well actually, the answer is not 9.090909%.  Read it back, the original question was:

    i am wondering, which is better:
    double vip
    or
    -20% at my local toyshop

    To which the answer is 20% at your local toyshop.  Now stop arguing!  I'm sure everyone has more important things to be getting on with.
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  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 3,018
    How about we say this.

    We buy lego from Lego [email protected]/Stores. we get VIP points.
    we get Enough points, we get Free Lego.

    as it stand come April i will have enough VIP to get #70732 City of Stiix FREE.
    so i think before we all start a wild west shootout at high noon!. we should all stand back and cool our heads.
    it's time to chill out! :p
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Studley, UKMember Posts: 1,643
    ^it isn't free though... ;)
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  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Studley, UKMember Posts: 1,643
    Well actually, the answer is not 9.090909%.  Read it back, the original question was:

    i am wondering, which is better:
    double vip
    or
    -20% at my local toyshop

    To which the answer is 20% at your local toyshop.  Now stop arguing!  I'm sure everyone has more important things to be getting on with.
    That bit doesn't have a question mark though.  Also, it says approximately 20%, I wonder how approximate.  Could it actually be 9.09%, because then this gets a lot more difficult!
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