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2016 Christmas Train Rumors

3stackshs3stackshs Member Posts: 299
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Nesquik over on EB dropped this bomb:

"Normally I wouldn't give away Exclusive details, but I believe the train community deserves some good news for a change. 

It's all but confirmed that there will be a Christmas train in Q4. It features lots and lots of presents/gifts and some minifigures. From what I could tell it's not a re-release of the 'previous' Christmas train, but that's all I know for now.

Please take this with a grain of salt, as plans can (and do) easily change throughout the year."


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  • NeilCrosbyNeilCrosby Member Posts: 77
    edited February 2016
    I will not get my hopes up. I will not get my hopes up. I will not get my hopes up.

    Christmas Train!
    CurvedRoadPlate
  • LeeLee Member Posts: 138
    NeilCrosby said:
    I will not get my hopes up. I will not get my hopes up. I will not get my hopes up.

    Christmas Train!

    Same! I will not get my hopes up.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,637
    I hope it isn't so christmasy that it can't be easily modified to a regular version. Glad to know a train is on the way either way though
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    Just two months after I buy a new original?  C'mon!
    Bumblepantskiki180703Renegade007cjh
  • PhoneboothPhonebooth Member Posts: 1,430
    Legoboy said:
    Just two months after I buy a new original?  C'mon!
    Suddenly very glad that I didn't spend £500 on buying one in December 
    SumoLegoTheMaker37kiki180703
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,704
    I heard that LEGO had scheduling issues with last years 'Winter Village' set which would explain why we had a re-release. So this train would have been released last year.

    I hope it appeals to me, the only other train from LEGO that I would love to own is #10194 - Emerald Night.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    Objectively, the old christmas train was pretty rubbish so, as long as they don't skimp on price, this one has the potential to be much better. 
    PaperballparkTXLegoguykiki180703Farmer_John
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Member Posts: 798
    cheshirecat said:
    Objectively, the old christmas train was pretty rubbish so, as long as they don't skimp on price, this one has the potential to be much better. 
    Expect the worse, hope for the best.
    ShibpharmjodTXLegoguymadforLEGOkiki180703dougtshkcrazy88
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,469
    I really want this to be true, but definitely not going to get my hopes up.
    Dedgeckokiki180703hkcrazy88
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Member Posts: 798
    And are we talking proper trains ala #10173 Holiday Train / #10194 Emerald Night, or rubbish Chistmas trains akin to #40034 and #40138?
  • Steve_J_OMSteve_J_OM Member Posts: 995
    A year ago I spent a small fortune BL'ing the original, so not sure how to feel about this. 
  • 3stackshs3stackshs Member Posts: 299
    Dedgecko said:
    And are we talking proper trains ala #10173 Holiday Train / #10194 Emerald Night, or rubbish Chistmas trains akin to #40034 and #40138?
    This was in a thread discussing possible trains being released in 2016.  The thought was that maybe it would be a creator train since its the 50 year anniversary.  I'm thinking he is referring to a legit train like 10173.
  • Lego_StarLego_Star Member Posts: 2,144
    After seeing the brilliant Bright Bricks Santa Express train in Covent Garden this past Christmas, all I have to say to this rumour is...

    Choo Choooo! :o)
  • mustang69mustang69 Member Posts: 544
    I'll be a little disappointed if this is a rerelease of #10173 as I spent $300 on the original and that was sans minifigs. If this is a new set then I am definitely in :)
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    We did create our own Christmas  train by MOCing it by using TLR train as the base.
    Having said that, I would be very excited if they actually make a great Christmas train. 
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    I'm very excited for any new Christmas offering and a train would be very cool! It would be my first Lego train too :-)
  • legomentallegomental Member Posts: 370
    yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! I hope its a decent train and not the equivalent of the friends 'rollercoaster' though
    SumoLego
  • brumeybrumey Member Posts: 1,002
    if i learnt something in the past 6 months since coming out of dark age then it is:

    NEVER PAY OVER MSRP !
    thedingman5kiki180703
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    I suspect it won't be a re-release of #10173, as the loco in that is pretty rubbish by today's standards. I'm hoping it will be a similar size to the Constitution Train Chase locomotive.
  • dragon114dragon114 Member Posts: 642
    I'll get this for sure. Winder if the old holiday train will go down in price when this one comes out.
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,370
    Oh cool, no rehash this year. 
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Paperballpark said:
    I suspect it won't be a re-release of #10173, as the loco in that is pretty rubbish by today's standards. I'm hoping it will be a similar size to the Constitution Train Chase locomotive.
    I agree, and I would also expect it to not have PF, which would keep it near $100.  Let's just hope it's easy to add PF like the Maersk is, and not like the Constitution, and holy crap not like the Ghost Train.
    BumblepantscheshirecatRainstorm26Wicksy80gmonkey76tamamahmAdeelZubairkiki180703SumoLego
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,637
    edited February 2016
    I am imaging a design somewhere between the original holiday train and the Emerald Night and hitting a price around $100-120
    madforLEGOgmonkey76AdeelZubairkiki180703SirBen
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,696
    edited February 2016
    My biggest worry would also be the price point. Everyone seems to think a Christmas/Winter Village set needs to be under $100 or lower, but I don't think they can do a decent train for under that. I'd be fine with paying 130.00 or more for something done well. 
  • dragon114dragon114 Member Posts: 642
    I want to see a coal car filled with presents
    Lego_Star
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    I'm optimistic that they can do a train (without PF) for about £70 or £80, which would probably be about $100, as the Constitution was £80, and that had licencing fees and a pointless water tower.

    I just hope beyond hope that it isn't like the Ghost Train.
    cheshirecatBumblepantskiki180703
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    I can totally see it coming with a pointless water tower though.
    Bumblepants
  • dragon114dragon114 Member Posts: 642
    Paperballpark said:
    I'm optimistic that they can do a train (without PF) for about £70 or £80, which would probably be about $100, as the Constitution was £80, and that had licencing fees and a pointless water tower.

    I just hope beyond hope that it isn't like the Ghost Train.
    I hope it like the mersk train with the option to add power function
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    It certainly would be ideal to have a steam engine from an old-school Lionel toy train standpoint, but the PF train truck lends itself to diesels much more easily.  They could (and IMHO should) go the EN route with motors, axles and gears, but that drives up the price.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    cheshirecat said:
    I can totally see it coming with a pointless water tower though.
    Especially if the train is Diesel! ;)
    TheLoneTensorPitfall69kiki180703SumoLego
  • mustang69mustang69 Member Posts: 544
    I can understand that different people have different preferences but I would be really disappointed if it was anything but a steam locomotive and would most likely pass on it.
  • JudgeChuckJudgeChuck Member Posts: 1,583
    ^ Agreed... I don't think that a diesel loco fits the style of the Winter Village at all!

    Having only a couple of LEGO locos, and those being #40138 and a very old #133: Locomotive, I'd definitely look at getting one but, given the theme, it does need to cater for the less-hardcore train fan, but the option of PF would be well worthwhile.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited February 2016
    I could forgive a Christmas diesel if they did another Santa Fe Super Chief :)
    Bumblepantsgmonkey76goshe7Faedian7kiki180703doodier
  • dragon114dragon114 Member Posts: 642
    I'm hoping for a steam with optional power functions
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,793
    oldtodd33 said:
    My biggest worry would also be the price point. Everyone seems to think a Christmas/Winter Village set needs to be under $100 or lower, but I don't think they can do a decent train for under that. I'd be fine with paying 130.00 or more for something done well. 
    Don't worry, knowing LEGO it will be at least 129.99 USD.
    My guess is it will be somewhat like the last one, but at the same time it cannot be identical I think due to the PF, whereas the old one only required a 9V motor to be added. (plus the white train windows are long out of production)

  • JudgeChuckJudgeChuck Member Posts: 1,583
    Bear in mind that the WV theme's prices have historically ranged from £45 (original WVTS) to a high of £90 (WVC), with most somewhere around £60, so I'd be disappointed if they pushed higher than that. £60 is a good price point for this kind of theme, I think, with some fluctuation up or down.
  • PeteMPeteM Member Posts: 447
    Another wishe for a PF-less (to keep initial cost down) steam locomotive here. And if the colour scheme could also bring back the tan train windows only released in #10194 so far, then even better!
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,793
    PeteM said:
    Another wishe for a PF-less (to keep initial cost down) steam locomotive here. And if the colour scheme could also bring back the tan train windows only released in #10194 so far, then even better!
    It will be interesting as I believe the 1x4x3 train window frame is no longer made. It does not mean that it could not be redone, but it does mean LEGO can resort to other windows so as to not have to reintroduce a part.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    dragon114 said:
    Paperballpark said:
    I'm optimistic that they can do a train (without PF) for about £70 or £80, which would probably be about $100, as the Constitution was £80, and that had licencing fees and a pointless water tower.

    I just hope beyond hope that it isn't like the Ghost Train.
    I hope it like the mersk train with the option to add power function
    dragon114 said:s
    I'm hoping for a steam with optional power functions
    Which is it?
    SumoLego
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    Emerald Night copy, without a carriage, done in bright pink and magenta. That'll stop the resellers.
    SumoLegotallblocktoo
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    JudgeChuck said:
    Bear in mind that the WV theme's prices have historically ranged from £45 (original WVTS) to a high of £90 (WVC), with most somewhere around £60, so I'd be disappointed if they pushed higher than that. £60 is a good price point for this kind of theme, I think, with some fluctuation up or down.
    There are a few things that can keep the cost down:

    1) No PF (I can live with this, even more so if it's designed for adding later)
    2) No track (I'm totally fine with this, but that would likely kill the general marketability)
    3) It doesn't even run on track (like the Ghost Train - please no no no)

    The price point has to be $100 minimum.  I fear how miserable a Lego train under that  would look like.
    oldtodd33gmonkey76kiki180703
  • mustang69mustang69 Member Posts: 544
    I'm not too concerned with cost, if its a well designed set and includes enough parts to justify the price I would be willing to pay $200 to $300.  Not that I am rich or anything, it's just worth it to me for my collection. However if this is part of the "Winter Village" line then most likely it will be in the $60 to $100 range.

    I guess the bottom line is that I would much rather pay more for something that has more functionality and aesthetics than to get something that is cut back in order to keep it under a certain price point, like #10245. That set had so much potential but fell a little short. Dont get me wrong, I like the set since I bought two (I had to have 8 raindeer ;) ) but it really should have been bigger.
  • evantylerevantyler Member Posts: 86
    I don't think they'd do it, but I'd love it if LEGO would make the two 2016 holiday promotional sets additional train car sets that can be added to the holiday train to further expand it.
    Faedian7kiki180703SumoLego
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    edited February 2016
    TheLoneTensor said:
    JudgeChuck said:
    Bear in mind that the WV theme's prices have historically ranged from £45 (original WVTS) to a high of £90 (WVC), with most somewhere around £60, so I'd be disappointed if they pushed higher than that. £60 is a good price point for this kind of theme, I think, with some fluctuation up or down.
    There are a few things that can keep the cost down:

    1) No PF (I can live with this, even more so if it's designed for adding later)
    2) No track (I'm totally fine with this, but that would likely kill the general marketability)
    3) It doesn't even run on track (like the Ghost Train - please no no no)

    The price point has to be $100 minimum.  I fear how miserable a Lego train under that  would look like.

    The key part for our train we made is that there is a track for it. i agree with your 2nd for that reason. Having a train on the track makes such a big difference.

    Honestly, I would like a separate pack to such a set. The separate pack would contain power functions and not to implement it. I really want a Christmas ain't that can run around the base of my tree. I have been to try to making that modification to the one we made, but now I will wait to see what happens with this rumor.

    ETA: If this was a very nicely done set, I would be willing to pay $150-$200. If it was that much and not well done, I would probably have to pass on it.

  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 Member Posts: 1,831
    edited February 2016
    LEGO + Xmas + train = must buy, who are we kidding. I really didn't want the first Xmas train, but bought it just in case LEGO did a Xmas village.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    Pitfall69 said:
    dragon114 said:
    I hope it like the mersk train with the option to add power function
    dragon114 said:
    I'm hoping for a steam with optional power functions
    Which is it?
    The answer is: Yes.  A steam-powered diesel.
    3stackshsNeilCrosby
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    I think if these rumours are true, that probably kills off the possibility of a steam engine for the 2016 or 2017 Creator Train.

    I didn't particularly care for the Horizon Express, so another streamline passenger train isn't appealing to me.  A new diesel would be nice - but I worry that prior lackluster sales may result in NO Creator Train...
  • HokieJoe99HokieJoe99 Member Posts: 351
    Train and tracks. That's all I hope we get. I'm tired of hearing of a set that could be great and then half of it is wasted on secondary builds to enhance playability. 
    SumoLegogoshe7kiki180703dougtsJELJ1S
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    ^ Agreed - there are plenty of mini-build knick-knack things in the rest of the Winter Village sets.  $129.99 for a steam engine, tender and some track.
    gmonkey76kiki180703
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