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  • shotgunchipmunkshotgunchipmunk Member Posts: 74
    Found some getting some good up close shots here:

    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/136568-these-are-the-lego-sets-you-ll-want-in-2016-nexo-knights-angry-birds-and-more

    I'm starting to think that Elves may be one of LEGO's strongest themes this year.  All these sets look fantastic!  Honestly, I'd be considering a couple of them even if I didn't have a little girl.  

    I'm curious to see how they'll present the story.  The world and the sets are great, I just wish they'd put a little more effort into the videos.  Shoot, they could make a good TV series out of this.

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  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,624
    If the next hospital is anything more than a glorified helipad I will eat my hat. 
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  • brumeybrumey Member Posts: 1,002
    yay....

    i totally overlooked dat hotdog bun!  must buy now!!!
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    shotgunchipmunk said:
    Found some getting some good up close shots here:

    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/136568-these-are-the-lego-sets-you-ll-want-in-2016-nexo-knights-angry-birds-and-more

    I'm starting to think that Elves may be one of LEGO's strongest themes this year.  All these sets look fantastic!  Honestly, I'd be considering a couple of them even if I didn't have a little girl.  

    I'm curious to see how they'll present the story.  The world and the sets are great, I just wish they'd put a little more effort into the videos.  Shoot, they could make a good TV series out of this.

    well i don't know how i missed it the 1st time.
    But we have 1 more use of that silly fire poll from the Ghostbusters Firehouse set.
    it is in the Roller Coaster set. as a free fall ride. 

    Lego look to be determent to get there moneys worth out of the new fire poll mold.
    at this point it has been seen in the new Fire Station set, the GBHQ set. Batcave set and now this new Friends set.
    Did i miss any?
    seeing how Big this Fire poll is. you need a tall set just to use it.
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,469
    Even more excited for the Elves sets now, those dragons look great and the creepy evil looking parts are new territory for a girl marketed theme, really looking forward to seeing where they go next with Elves.
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  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    Shib said:
    Even more excited for the Elves sets now, those dragons look great and the creepy evil looking parts are new territory for a girl marketed theme, really looking forward to seeing where they go next with Elves.
    Elves is a "girl marketed theme"? please say it is not so!!!!
    :p
    all joking aside,
    the theme is growing on me.
    it seems to live in that border land.
    ware it is not quite a Girls theme. but its not a Boys theme as well.
    it lives in that same place that My Little Pone has moved in to, in the last four years.
    and that Care Bears lived in back in the 80's. (the show not the toys.)
    i know there are, and have been others, but can not think of them just now.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,624
    ^Agreed. Really like Elves as do my girls. Hope it sticks for years to come. Great parts, colors, set concepts.
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  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,469
    I don't put any stock in what group a company says a toy is for (otherwise none of us would be buying LEGO at all :-P ) but the pastel colours, marketing approach and use of minidolls over minifigures are the result of LEGO marketing the line to girls. I'm pretty sure that [email protected] even used to have a Girls tag that the theme fell under (although now it seems to be Beautiful LEGO® World - presumably because it's pretty patronising to label certain products as Girl's products without doing the same for Boy's products)

    I loved the Elves theme from first showing, and have most of the sets so far, but the dragons in this years sets, plus the slight change in tone are all making it much much better.
    Ronyarkiki180703
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,624
    edited January 2016
    Now that the box art is published for the volcano sets I am really starting to warm up to them. The machinery is really well designed as are the minifigures. Could easily be turned into heavy equipment for slightly more realistic scenes. Looks like some fun new parts too. Would have been the perfect opportunity for the classic ramp & pit baseplate to make a comeback though. That would have been awesome.
    Galactuskiki180703
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    I think my main disappointment with the Volcano sets is that even the "Base"  is a vehicle.  And I don't like the story of the lava boulders containing blue crystals.  It just doesn't make sense. I was hoping it would be more educational or accurate or...  something, I don't know.  This kind of idea works for me if it's in space but not in the real world 
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  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    LostInTranslation said:
    I think my main disappointment with the Volcano sets is that even the "Base"  is a vehicle.  And I don't like the story of the lava boulders containing blue crystals.  It just doesn't make sense. I was hoping it would be more educational or accurate or...  something, I don't know.  This kind of idea works for me if it's in space but not in the real world 
    i will point you to last years Ice theme.
    same idea. same type of set's.
    its the same thing.
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,469
    LostInTranslation said:
    I think my main disappointment with the Volcano sets is that even the "Base"  is a vehicle.  And I don't like the story of the lava boulders containing blue crystals.  It just doesn't make sense. I was hoping it would be more educational or accurate or...  something, I don't know.  This kind of idea works for me if it's in space but not in the real world 
    I think I'm in a similar headspace about it, I like that they are pushing City beyond the typical, but it's just all things that have been done before dressed in a new way. It's basically a repeat go the arctic theme, but with no Huskys (so for me no reason to buy!)
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  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,379
    edited January 2016
    ^^^ agreed.
    With the amount of trans orange in the Nexo Knights theme a volcano research base along the lines of the Artic base would have been good. 
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    Shib said:
    LostInTranslation said:
    I think my main disappointment with the Volcano sets is that even the "Base"  is a vehicle.  And I don't like the story of the lava boulders containing blue crystals.  It just doesn't make sense. I was hoping it would be more educational or accurate or...  something, I don't know.  This kind of idea works for me if it's in space but not in the real world 
    I think I'm in a similar headspace about it, I like that they are pushing City beyond the typical, but it's just all things that have been done before dressed in a new way. It's basically a repeat go the arctic theme, but with no Huskys (so for me no reason to buy!)
    And many of those arctic sets sold like hot cakes and were relatively difficult to get for Christmas (if you left it late). And now two years on, there are loads more little boys (and probably a few girls) that weren't old enough for Arctic but are now old enough for this. And other kids that didn't get the entire range of Arctic but would be interested in a similar helicopter or truck or other vehicle. They'll sell well. LEGO knows what sells, which is why they repeat fire trucks and police.
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  • Pumpkin_3CK5Pumpkin_3CK5 Member Posts: 805
    I guess it's time to round up the Nexo Knights to hunt down the Elven dragons. A certain Hawk-Eyed Knight once said that Dragon Slaying is a Knight's highest calling.

    Except those dragons are the opposite of what should be hunted. Call off the hunt!
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    LostInTranslation said:
    I think my main disappointment with the Volcano sets is that even the "Base"  is a vehicle.  And I don't like the story of the lava boulders containing blue crystals.  It just doesn't make sense. I was hoping it would be more educational or accurate or...  something, I don't know.  This kind of idea works for me if it's in space but not in the real world 
     
    Geodes, most commonly formed in lava flows. 


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  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Member Posts: 1,643
    ^this.  But also, they are trying to sell sets to children at the end of the day.  How many children will be happy that the volcano set is an RV with a dish on the top and the story they role play is a lone scientist collecting data over a period of 5-10 years while the volcano doesn't erupt.  Yeah, it'd be an awesome set for us, but for the children I can see how a helicopter with drills and lava rocks might be more interesting.
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    @shib - no huskies and no polar bears! 

    @cheshirecat - geodes, that's an angle I hadn't thought of.  So do large hollow boulders of lava actually exist in really life too?? 
    chrisalddinkiki180703
  • AleyditaAleydita Member Posts: 952
    My main issue with the volcano sets is the lime colour. I've never really liked it.
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    Aleydita said:
    My main issue with the volcano sets is the lime colour. I've never really liked it.
    when you in a life or death event like an erupting volcano you going to wish to have you getaway car/truck/whatever in a color you can see easily and are not going to miss.
    this is why i am ok with the color. still not going to buy it. as it don't fit in with any theme i have started and/or plan to start. 
    Aanchir
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526

    Looks like we are getting that torso with yellow hands. But for me the highlight is the old (or at least grey haired) man and old (white haired) lady torsos. Nice civilian clothes, and they both seem to be useful for yellow skin and fleshie figures.

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  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    its all well and good having a buss stop.
    but.
    I DON'T HAVE A BUSS!
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    edited January 2016
    Bumblepants said:
    If the next hospital is anything more than a glorified helipad I will eat my hat. 
    Full disclosure: You wear a Carmen Miranda hat?
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    ^^^ Will there be a wave of criticism for a hot dog cart reissue?

    How unimaginative!  And will ruin the value of my polybag!
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,624
    SumoLego said:
    Bumblepants said:
    If the next hospital is anything more than a glorified helipad I will eat my hat. 
    Full disclosure: You wear a Carmen Miranda hat?
    Sadly no. I think I have just been reading books set in time where people said weird stuff like that lately and it worked its way into my vocabulary.
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Member Posts: 1,643
    SumoLego said:
    ^^^ Will there be a wave of criticism for a hot dog cart reissue?

    How unimaginative!  And will ruin the value of my polybag!
    I'm sorry to inform you that your (and everyone elses) polybag was worthless the moment the bun was revealed.  Who wants a hot dog without a bun?
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  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Member Posts: 1,643
    chrisalddin said:
    its all well and good having a buss stop.
    but.
    I DON'T HAVE A BUSS!
    Bus stops actually spend the majority of their time without a bus near them, so I'm good with it.
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  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    MattsWhat said:
    chrisalddin said:
    its all well and good having a buss stop.
    but.
    I DON'T HAVE A BUSS!
    Bus stops actually spend the majority of their time without a bus near them, so I'm good with it.
    this is true. but to have lot's of buss stop's and No Buss to be seen, looks silly.
  • flordflord Member Posts: 797
    Bumblepants said:
    If the next hospital is anything more than a glorified helipad I will eat my hat. 
    It's the same thing with the new Airport Terminal. Uh, that's a terminal? I was underwhelmed.
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    flord said:
    Bumblepants said:
    If the next hospital is anything more than a glorified helipad I will eat my hat. 
    It's the same thing with the new Airport Terminal. Uh, that's a terminal? I was underwhelmed.
     No that's a doorway.
    a big rotating doorway. and a window. a Big window.
    and the plane as a lot of Big part's in it to.
    the hole set is big part's!
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    MattsWhat said:
    SumoLego said:
    ^^^ Will there be a wave of criticism for a hot dog cart reissue?

    How unimaginative!  And will ruin the value of my polybag!
    I'm sorry to inform you that your (and everyone elses) polybag was worthless the moment the bun was revealed.  Who wants a hot dog without a bun?
    I don't mind a naked sausage.  Wait, huh?
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  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,787
    edited January 2016
    Bumblepants said:
    If the next hospital is anything more than a glorified helipad I will eat my hat. 
    Be careful there are those here that may hold you to that promise. :-p

    flord said:
    Bumblepants said:
    If the next hospital is anything more than a glorified helipad I will eat my hat. 
    It's the same thing with the new Airport Terminal. Uh, that's a terminal? I was underwhelmed.

    Yeah, I was thinking about selling my sealed box #3182, but now not so sure after seeing the 'Airport'. If that set is 119.99 all I have to say is wow that is overpriced (for me anyway). Starting to think the air stunt show set (especially if the hangar is included) is the one that will be the 119.99 USD set with the 'Airport terminal' being 80 or 90 USD.

    I do like the VIP limo and plane set though. Wonder if it will be an exclusive in the US like #3222 was.

  • flordflord Member Posts: 797
    Yeah, I was thinking about selling my sealed box #3182, but now not so sure after seeing the 'Airport'. If that set is 119.99 all I have to say is wow that is overpriced (for me anyway). Starting to think the air stunt show set (especially if the hangar is included) is the one that will be the 119.99 USD set with the 'Airport terminal' being 80 or 90 USD. I do like the VIP limo and plane set though. Wonder if it will be an exclusive in the US like #3222 was.

    #3182 is much better than the new one we are getting. And frankly, so is the 2006 version. We'll see what the final price ends up being (and how detailed the inside of the plane is) but Lego looks to be cutting corners on this one.
  • dragon114dragon114 Member Posts: 642
    star wars photo have shown up including advent calander
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Member Posts: 3,639
    ^Links please?
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  • binaryeyebinaryeye Member Posts: 1,831
    Check the usual sites. The photos have signs in them indicating no photos should be taken, so it's probably not appropriate to post links here.
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  • HuwHuw Administrator Posts: 7,087
    Indeed.
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  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    I get that they have pretty strict rules about photography, but they ought to focus their efforts on those that clearly violate the policy by taking photos.
  • monkey_roomonkey_roo Member Posts: 1,411
    To be honest if they don't want people taking photos then they should ask the people they invite to put cameras and phones etc in bags or leave them at the front desk and collect them on the way out. That or don't bother showing anything.

    using a dubious metaphor, once you let the cat out the bag you can't expect to tell it where to go, or rather, if you are going to show off some of the worlds most desirable toys that millions and millions of people want to know about some one will always oblige. It's the flip side of being so successful.

    that said, the rule are well know and people should respect that, but where demand for info is so high there will always be a supply.
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    What they can do though is no longer give invites to websites that flount the rules, and/or remove them from the consumer engagement programme for review sets, or whatever it is called.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    My guess is that Hothbricks was probably not on the invite list.
  • KleiovousKleiovous Member Posts: 95
    It just all doesn't really matter. 
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Member Posts: 1,643
    edited January 2016
    monkey_roo said:
    To be honest if they don't want people taking photos then they should ask the people they invite to put cameras and phones etc in bags or leave them at the front desk and collect them on the way out. That or don't bother showing anything.

    Not being funny but thats not even nearly going to work is it. They have photos (and videos) of sets being demoed, clearly they weren't using a phone or camera. It's a bit low to sneak in a hidden camera, but then we all look at the images so websites get a lot of traffic showing them, so it's going to continue.

    On the plus side the new at-te looks likes it's going to be good. And it gives @CapnRex101 a pretty sweet ride (not sure how many sets and power functions to make a working one but I'm sure he will let us know) 
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    shotgunchipmunk said:
    Found some getting some good up close shots here:

    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/136568-these-are-the-lego-sets-you-ll-want-in-2016-nexo-knights-angry-birds-and-more

    I'm starting to think that Elves may be one of LEGO's strongest themes this year.  All these sets look fantastic!  Honestly, I'd be considering a couple of them even if I didn't have a little girl.  

    I'm curious to see how they'll present the story.  The world and the sets are great, I just wish they'd put a little more effort into the videos.  Shoot, they could make a good TV series out of this.
    Elves is without a doubt the theme I've been most reliably impressed with in the past few years. It hasn't really had any sets I'd consider a "dud", and covers all kinds of fantasy adventure tropes while still tying into a larger story.

    My brother picked up the latest LEGO Elves chapter book yesterday and it's a great read. The first one is as well — it manages to tell an expanded version of the original TV special's story, which makes me wonder if perhaps last year's story might have been written as a 45-minute special and then shortened to 22 minutes for some reason.

    I hope we get a new TV special this year, and that it's longer than last year's.
    monkey_roo said:
    To be honest if they don't want people taking photos then they should ask the people they invite to put cameras and phones etc in bags or leave them at the front desk and collect them on the way out. That or don't bother showing anything.
    They allow photos of most of the themes, just not Star Wars. It would probably be impractical to set up a checkpoint outside the Star Wars display to take people's cameras and phones then give them back to them when they go to look at the other products.

    Still, I absolutely hate when people break the LEGO Group's trust by taking photos of something they were clearly not meant to take photos of. I know they think they can earn points with the fan community by being sneaky. Sometimes, sadly, they're right. But that kind of subterfuge is part of the reason why The LEGO Group often has to be so heavy-handed about embargoes and secrecy, to the point of prohibiting photos entirely at London Toy Fair and putting a freaking ceiling over their booth. They know that if you give AFOLs an inch they'll take a mile. At Nuremberg they're nice enough to let the press see and take photos of nearly all of their upcoming products for the year, but still some clown decided to take advantage of their leniency by photographing the one thing they were clearly instructed not to photograph, and then having the gall to share a photo with an obvious "no photos" sign in the center.
    catwrangler
  • ryjayryjay Member Posts: 1,001
    Take all the pix you want and post all the pix you want.  Could care less what a sign says,  If Lego really doesn't want the press then dont show them at all.  In today's world, LEGO is dreaming if they don't think pictures will get out.
  • willobee498willobee498 Member Posts: 349
    Yeah, it seems strange to have a huge display of all the Lego sets, and then for six sets say "no photos!" If you reeeeeally don't want details getting out, don't show the sets to begin with.

    Though of course, someone taking photos when they shouldn't be are ultimately in the wrong.
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    Or maybe just ban all photography, like at London. Make everyone wait longer for all themes.
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  • chrisalddinchrisalddin Member Posts: 3,041
    CCC said:
    Or maybe just ban all photography, like at London. Make everyone wait longer for all themes.

    Gives @CCC the Evil Eye!
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    edited January 2016
    chrisalddin said:
    CCC said:
    Or maybe just ban all photography, like at London. Make everyone wait longer for all themes.

    Gives @CCC the Evil Eye!
    This is what happens when people break the rules though. Websites or people doing it will often claim it is for the good of the people, when really they are making money off the back of it.

    Lack of discounts on exclusives in the US? Most likely down to people breaking the rules and selling them, for the good of the people that want to buy these sets later on.

    I imagine the lugbulk scheme would be stopped if people were selling bricks bought that way for the good of the fans not able to participate. 

    Similarly if people started selling the LUG member stickers for AFOL days in eBay (for the good of the people that cannot get one), Lego would pull it.

    Some people breaking rules can have, and has had, serious effects for everyone.
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  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    CCC said:
    Or maybe just ban all photography, like at London. Make everyone wait longer for all themes.
    This is exactly the kind of thing I'm worried about. People accuse LEGO of being secretive and heavy-handed, and sometimes it's true. But if this is what happens when they loosen their restrictions and decide to give their Toy Fair visitors a bit of trust, can you really blame them?

    Speaking of which, I learned today that Hasbro didn't allow photos of their My Little Pony produts at Nuremberg Toy Fair, showing that this level of secrecy applies as much or more to other major toy companies as it does to LEGO.

    As for the idea "don't show these products if you don't want pictures getting out"... bear in mind that of all the people visiting Nuremberg Toy Fair, only one appears to have broken the LEGO Group's trust by taking and sharing a Star Wars picture. And also that these Toy Fair events are first and foremost for the benefit of RETAILERS, not fans. It's the same kind of backwards reasoning as "well, if LEGO knows retailer catalogs will leak, why do they put pictures in retailer catalogs?" Generally, retailers want to know what they're ordering, and for that they need a glimpse of the sets long before fans do. The LEGO Group can't just sabotage their OWN business dealings just because they know fans will take advantage of them.
    Lyichircheshirecatkiki180703catwrangler
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