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Humans, like minifigures, can "live" in buildings which can be differentiated by lenght, height, width; they can be even 10, 50, 100, even 1000 times bigger or smaller. It doesn't count because there are no "correct" sizes, only suitable proportiones which all need a lowest common denominator: who they are designed for, who they are supposed to be used by, and if they can be lived or used by them. You'll never be able to live in a bird-house unless you're a Lilliput, but whatever it will be a castle or a single household, they will be both on a human or minifig scale, if these ones are able to use them, to live them. Surely a skyscraper doesn't match a barn, but it doesn't matter because buildings don't have to match each other. What really counts is that both them match who they are assigned to.
In any case, regarding the visual consistency, where do you think would suit better the Ghostbusters HQ if not in a city ? Maybe with JackStone?
What I find disturbing about combining GBHQ with the "official" modulars is that the original GBHQ is a small building compared with its surroundings, whereas the Lego version, when inserted into Modular Row, becomes the tallest of them all.
In any case it must obviously be displayed with its unfinished back jammed firmly against a convenient wall, which further complicates designing a suitable layout.
That's all very well for a toy, but it means that you can construct two separate buildings, probably using a scale for one that is as much as double the other, and the distortions of the minifig and the imagination stretch mean that it fits each of them. However, it does not mean that the two buildings are to the same scale, nor does it mean that they fit alongside each other.
And so it is with the firehouse and modulars. We accept a minifg placed in either of them only by using imagination; in fact they are misfits in both. You cannot then use that "as evidence" that the two buildings are to the same scale.
By your reasoning, all City sets are to the same scale as the firehouse and Ecto. Not on this planet, they're not. From the photos earlier, the Ecto is larger than a bus - which, in real life, it definitely isn't. The Ecto is overscale for a minifig as can be demonstrated simply by standing them alongside each other (a minifig wouldn't even see in the windows). It is artisitic licence allows them to be used together. A minifg better suits the modulars, although as I said earlier, they are still not to scale, because there is no "minifig scale".
The firehouse therefore only goes with the modulars by using that same artistic licence and imagination. If that's the way you want to see things in your own sets, then that's up to you, but you can't then tell somebody who wants a more uniform feel that the two match, because they don't.
It's the same as with children and toy cars of different scales. Some children will keep them separate and play with them separately; others will play with them all at the same time. They're toys - both are equally valid. Neither group should try to force their opinions on the other, but it does not change the absolute fact that they are different scales.
The original question was this:
It's interesting the question was phrased that way, because it almost anticipates that the answer is subjective.
They're not the same scale; they're a near miss. But how do they scale? Well that depends on every individuals interpretation of "near" and how near they personally want it to be to accept it as a match. Everybody ought to be happy with that.
You missed the point cause the question was about how much the GH fits with modulars, not how much the ECTO fits with other cars.
I know it's nice to can take always the conversation where we want, but when we do it we have to be sure where exactly we are supposed to go, at least, otherwise we are only going off at a tangent. You did a tender example, the ECTO, not very strong frankly, but which can be even embraceable if you just take it for what it is. However, it falls completely outside from the main point of the debate cause it's just nothing more than an exception.
Everything in life follows precise rules or uppermost habits, then there are apparently small incongruences, happy exceptions, but exceptions don't brake rules, they confirm them. If you take the exception as a valid argument, well, prepare yourself to be punctually denyed by the most of people, because the exception is a really weak point of view, a weak argumentation.
Why ? Because it just completely falls outside from the main point, claiming to make of a singularity, a uniqueness, something which can replace the rule or the convention. But things never work so.
You just insist on the ECTO, but the ECTO is just an exception like the Delorean, like the Batman cars and others LEGO cars or trucks. When people think about cars based on minifig scale, their minds immediately go to that typical TOWN\CITY sector of cars of four studs wide with which obviously those other vehicles don't match very well. So, exceptions exist, but their existence doesn't encroach what is the uppermost scale based on minifigures.
When you think about minifig scale you refear to a precise idea which begins with the introduction of the minifigure itself and, by the time, year after year, it developed till our days and will continue to develop in the future. This idea opened the doors to an entire revolution in terms of dedicated new parts that, by that time, have been designed to fit perfectly with minifigs. All these new parts: doors, windows, panels, gates, utensils, plants and many others have all a common seed, a common denominator, and all of them fit with that precise size, that precise scale: the minifigure.
You'll can do whatever building you want, big or small, red or white, but as far as you use the same doors, the same windows, and every other minifigure dedicated furnitures you' ll never have buildings of different scale. Those are the elements which link generic bricks, potentially good for every scale, with minifigure scale, those create the minifig scale, and there is no way you can escape from them.
And this take us back to the original question, my question: what makes people thinking of a Modular being or not being out of scale with GH?
On the contrary I can see here something of remarkable, a spontaneous wish, which is completely legitimised by the immediate impression that GH can fit well with modulars. Definitely a question that you don't see usually for Creator houses or for City buildings, not frequently at least.
For the rest, I substantiality agree with Brickupdate previous analysis.
Keep trolling.
Look, this is the second time you just insult me after a short debate. I'm relatively new to this forum but I can see it's something very usual for you to just call idiot, troll, rubbish or insult everyone else everytime you run out of arguments, or maybe just for the fun of doing it. I don't know how old exactly are you, not so much I presume, but such behaviour is the mirror of an infinite human misery for which can be only commiseration.
And about trolling just relax yourself, that task is all yours, no one else could beat you in that here, guaranteed.
You asked a question about why people THINK something. I gave you an answer. It's not for anybody to argue about it.
Discussions? Which discussions? The ones you suppose to have with people?
I don't see any discussion with you, only one-way with someone who simply hasn't learn yet to being contradicted in his life.
Get over yourself dear, maybe it's not for anybody to argue about it, maybe it's not for you either.
http://www.oopper.de/gr/pano/staedte/frankfurt/frankfurt-skyline-p463.jpg
The debate was about GH being or not being on scale with other modulars, not about vehicles. Someone said GH is on a different scale, but hasn't technically explained yet why.
Similarly, London.
https://flic.kr/p/rHP8Lw
I understand your point. Of course I had never thought how flat can seem the european cities skylines in comparison to american ones for an american eye, just think for a New Yorker citizen.. I think it's a question of point of views, of habits, but I can assure you there is a great variety from building to another building here too, as you can see from the pictures.
Nonetheless, it wasn't meant as a criticism, so if Lego does opt to continue the skylines, a stylized version of Parisian buildings would do just fine. (Eiffel Tower, Notre Dame, Arch, etc.)
Thats a good point. Salt Lake City, Utah has a law where no building can be higher than the top spire of the Mormon Church Temple - when I was living there it was nice to have that big city feel without it being too over the top.
My city (Lincoln, NE population 250k) has a law that can't have buildings taller than the capitol building. Granted, it is the 2nd tallest capitol building in the country, so buildings can still be fairly tall. Although there isn't much need to be too skyscraper-y here.
i would like to have 2 of this set,
one to build, one to MOC with.
however, knowing how i am hopeless at saving money (i have burning money syndrome.) i dont think i could save long enough to get a 2nd one.
but we will see. if the set is a round for 2 or even 3 years then odds are i will get that 2nd set. so here is to hoping it sticks around long enough.
The trouble is that "certain age" is now often something like 30 or 40, whereas it used to be about 15.
Perhaps you're more enlightened down under?