[Master thread] Help identifying parts, sets and minifigs

TigerMoth · January 2016

Aanchir said:

Oh, I thought you meant Bricklink's Light Purple. I was misremembering the name, sorry. The 2x4 bricks look way too dark to be Bright Purple (which is the color of the "dark pink" flowers in that same photo). Bright Reddish Lilac seems more likely to me.

I don't like using Bricklink's colours for precisely this sort of reason. You can generally determine a TLG colour name accurately - even if it's one of the different shades of the same colour!

I was starting from the premise that it's a known colour of the brick. I know it doesn't have to be, but it's a reasonable place to start. I run with two monitors, with different colour settings - one says yes, the other not, so Bright Purple is possible.

It's why I questioned the pedigree of the reference bracelet parts. Guessing again, but it seems likely that they've been identified through Bricklink, and therefore it's quite possible they're wrong. Once the reference colours go out of the window, anything's possible - that Bright Red doesn't look very red to me.

Istokg · January 2016

@wjoeyjones
Sorry to take so long... had internet connection issues.....

Here is a 322 Samsonite Educational Gear Set, and although I don't have a better image, you can just make out the string in the lower right of the image.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/e2/cd80uh37g7b0.jpg

So yes, that is original to this set. Now whether or not that was the same one used in the European Pull Toy, I doubt it. Most non-specialized LEGO parts were produced at their Samsonite Loveland Colorado plant. I don't think this intertwined string would qualify as a specialty LEGO part. Samsonite did make other toys (non LEGO)... so they could have used this same type of string in one of those as well... such as seen in this 1972 Samsonite Catalog image....

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/uv/oy1quqoqy138.jpg

SteveDJ · January 2016

TigerMoth said:

Aanchir said:

Oh, I thought you meant Bricklink's Light Purple. I was misremembering the name, sorry. The 2x4 bricks look way too dark to be Bright Purple (which is the color of the "dark pink" flowers in that same photo). Bright Reddish Lilac seems more likely to me.

I don't like using Bricklink's colours for precisely this sort of reason. You can generally determine a TLG colour name accurately - even if it's one of the different shades of the same colour!

I was starting from the premise that it's a known colour of the brick. I know it doesn't have to be, but it's a reasonable place to start. I run with two monitors, with different colour settings - one says yes, the other not, so Bright Purple is possible.

It's why I questioned the pedigree of the reference bracelet parts. Guessing again, but it seems likely that they've been identified through Bricklink, and therefore it's quite possible they're wrong. Once the reference colours go out of the window, anything's possible - that Bright Red doesn't look very red to me.

Thanks for the input ... though I'm not sure where to proceed. I guess I did fail to mention I was using Bricklink's color name/system here, as we were trying to add a few more items to our BL store inventory.

So, all the colors I mentioned, and the colors of the reference flowers, are from Bricklink. The flowers were purchased from other sellers, so if I listed an incorrect color for one, then it is a mistake in what I was sent vs. what I thought I ordered. :-)

I must agree that it looks like that Bright Reddish Lilac color shown in that linked pic (color 198). Alas, Bricklink doesn't have a color by that name in their system, so it is difficult to list these bricks correctly. Argh... :-(

SteveDJ · January 2016

P.S. And another argh... I'm about 30 seconds too late to edit my comment above. But I took another look at BL's color reference for Light Purple, of which they have very few reference photos, but that little lizard/dino piece was an exact match. So looks like BL "Light Purple" it is, though I must agree a very poor name for the color on BL's part.

TigerMoth · January 2016

SteveDJ said:

So, all the colors I mentioned, and the colors of the reference flowers, are from Bricklink. The flowers were purchased from other sellers, so if I listed an incorrect color for one, then it is a mistake in what I was sent vs. what I thought I ordered. :-)

That is the problem - and effectively, you're just perpetuating it.

People "guess" at a colour; perhaps it's an educated guess based on some hard evidence; perhaps not. Then they forget that they've guessed, and use it as definitive. to make an badly-educated guess for something else. And so it goes on.

Once upon a time, things were relatively simple - there were few colours and the fact that TLG used one set of names and the AFOL community used another was largely irrelevant. Then we got similar colours where the real thing cannot be determined by comparison with a set of picture - and essentially different people thought the same description applied to different real colours. These were then used in the inventories on Peeron and Bricklink - and not necessarily in the same way!

In an ideal world, the colours for reference pieces come from a known, and relatively recent, set. We KNOW what colours are used for them, because TLG now make the information available. There can be significant variations for something that has the same description, but they are (hopefully?) known

SteveDJ said:

I must agree that it looks like that Bright Reddish Lilac color shown in that linked pic (color 198). Alas, Bricklink doesn't have a color by that name in their system, so it is difficult to list these bricks correctly. Argh... :-(

Be very careful comparing a real object with a photograph. The latter can vary tremendously giving totally the wrong impression. You've taken your photographs under various lighting conditions, but it also depends on the colour settings on the device on which your viewing it - different colour temperatures, brightness, contrast, phase of the moon (maybe not)...

As I understand it, you have now decided you have a brick in a colour that was never sold. Whilst such things do exist, considering the type of colour involved, I'd personally want to do a lot more checking, brick against brick, to verify that.

Aanchir · January 2016

SteveDJ said:

TigerMoth said:

Aanchir said:

Oh, I thought you meant Bricklink's Light Purple. I was misremembering the name, sorry. The 2x4 bricks look way too dark to be Bright Purple (which is the color of the "dark pink" flowers in that same photo). Bright Reddish Lilac seems more likely to me.

I don't like using Bricklink's colours for precisely this sort of reason. You can generally determine a TLG colour name accurately - even if it's one of the different shades of the same colour!

I was starting from the premise that it's a known colour of the brick. I know it doesn't have to be, but it's a reasonable place to start. I run with two monitors, with different colour settings - one says yes, the other not, so Bright Purple is possible.

It's why I questioned the pedigree of the reference bracelet parts. Guessing again, but it seems likely that they've been identified through Bricklink, and therefore it's quite possible they're wrong. Once the reference colours go out of the window, anything's possible - that Bright Red doesn't look very red to me.

Thanks for the input ... though I'm not sure where to proceed. I guess I did fail to mention I was using Bricklink's color name/system here, as we were trying to add a few more items to our BL store inventory.

So, all the colors I mentioned, and the colors of the reference flowers, are from Bricklink. The flowers were purchased from other sellers, so if I listed an incorrect color for one, then it is a mistake in what I was sent vs. what I thought I ordered. :-)

I must agree that it looks like that Bright Reddish Lilac color shown in that linked pic (color 198). Alas, Bricklink doesn't have a color by that name in their system, so it is difficult to list these bricks correctly. Argh... :-(

Don't worry, I'm fairly sure you're correct about the colors of those flowers, as were the sellers who provided them to you. The "Dark Pink" flowers could be either Bright Purple or Medium Reddish Violet, but BrickLink doesn't differentiate between those colors since they're near-identical. Both are called Dark Pink on BrickLink.

Bricklink's name for Bright Reddish Lilac is "Light Purple". 2x4 bricks did come in this color in these two sets, and here's the Bricklink price guide for that color. So I'm pretty confident that's what you have. :)

The photostream I linked to, Brick Colorstream, is one of the best LEGO color resources I know of. They list both BrickLink names and official LEGO color names with handy pictorial reference. Keep them bookmarked!

TigerMoth · January 2016

Aanchir said:

Bricklink's name for Bright Reddish Lilac is "Light Purple". 2x4 bricks did come in this color in these two sets, and here's the Bricklink price guide for that color. So I'm pretty confident that's what you have. :)

That'll teach me to try an remember what's been said rather than go back and read it all again. (I swapped two colours.) My excuse was that the site managed to log me out whilst I was posting. Huh?

Lee · January 2016

TigerMoth said:

oldtodd33 said:

@Lee I knew I had seen it before and it's taken this long to find. http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=fabad2&in=S

It's similar but it's not the same.

1) The seam is missing.

2) The hole in the hub is proportionately much bigger - the diameter of the hole in the lawnmower wheel is about a third of the diameter of just the hub; for the queried object, it's about a third of the size of the whole wheel (if that's what it is).

3) The grove on the wheelbarrow wheel is a completely circle when seen without reflections:

https://img.rebrickable.com/img/sets-b/3787-1.jpg

I would have to agree with you TigerMoth. They look very much the same but just not quite right but saying that I may just put it away just incase. Thanks all

TigerMoth · January 2016

Lee said:

I would have to agree with you TigerMoth. They look very much the same but just not quite right but saying that I may just put it away just incase. Thanks all

I can't prove it, but I also think that whole wheel-cutter-wheel thing in the lawnmower is one piece. It seems to be held onto the bottom by clips.

As I said, that seam suggests that it's not a LEGO part. TLG don't do things like that - it's one of the reasons it's expensive.

You didn't give us any idea of scale. Have you tried putting anything in the hole? Like a Technic pin - when it's worth remembering that they'll always "click" home, otherwise they pin's left stressed and that makes it illegal.

However, as you say, if you keep it, you can throw it away later; it doesn't work the other way around!

wjoeyjones · January 2016

Istokg said:

@wjoeyjones
Sorry to take so long... had internet connection issues.....

Here is a 322 Samsonite Educational Gear Set, and although I don't have a better image, you can just make out the string in the lower right of the image.

So yes, that is original to this set. Now whether or not that was the same one used in the European Pull Toy, I doubt it. Most non-specialized LEGO parts were produced at their Samsonite Loveland Colorado plant. I don't think this intertwined string would qualify as a specialty LEGO part.

Thanks for the reply and the photo. I don't believe the part is the same one used in the pull toy either, I just noticed the string looked similar. I am glad to see that this was a LEGO / Samsonite part, I almost discounted it as a homemade piece.

You do not happen to have a part count for this set?

Thanks Again
Joey

Lee · January 2016

TigerMoth said:

Lee said:

I would have to agree with you TigerMoth. They look very much the same but just not quite right but saying that I may just put it away just incase. Thanks all

I can't prove it, but I also think that whole wheel-cutter-wheel thing in the lawnmower is one piece. It seems to be held onto the bottom by clips.

As I said, that seam suggests that it's not a LEGO part. TLG don't do things like that - it's one of the reasons it's expensive.

You didn't give us any idea of scale. Have you tried putting anything in the hole? Like a Technic pin - when it's worth remembering that they'll always "click" home, otherwise they pin's left stressed and that makes it illegal.

However, as you say, if you keep it, you can throw it away later; it doesn't work the other way around!

Na, doesn't fit lego at all and to be honest....its in the bin now! Thanks again.

Trev5374 · January 2016

Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me what sets these are part of?

Thanks so much...

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/bj/zyz0n8rz5dd6.jpg

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/vs/jitw4rwn8e4r.jpg

oldtodd33 · January 2016

The helicopter top is from Alien Conquest. I don't think the first picture is Lego but does look to be part of a General Grievous. The black cockpit only came in 2 sets here. http://bricksetforum.com/discussion/71/how-do-you-display-minifigs/p1

oldtodd33 · January 2016

Damned edit button. Here http://bricksetforum.com/discussion/71/how-do-you-display-minifigs/p1

catwrangler · January 2016

@Trev5374 The second piece is the "basket" part of 6037, the Witch's Windship, from the Fright Knights Castle series: http://brickset.com/sets/6037-1/Witch-s-Windship

Jram · January 2016

Hi, first post. Putting together all my sets prior to selling, and have some pieces that I can't find/identify on Peeron.

Does anyone know if these Shell bricks are from the same set, or different ones?
If you look at the undersides, you'll see that one has two supports (on pillars 2 and 4, flush with the bottom edge) and one has a central support (which stops short of the bottom edge.)

Looking at the pieces I have left over, it's impossible to tell where they're from - I got a load of Lego from my big cousin in the very early 80s, but it seems to be a lot of incomplete sets.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/xq/bhi63s1iwfzl.jpg

oldtodd33 · January 2016

@Jram That print only came in one set according to BL. http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=3009pb156#T=C

flord · January 2016

Can anyone identify any sets in this pic? It's not much to go on, I know. Debating buying the whole bin. $200 CDN seem too much?

Aanchir · January 2016

The ship hull is from #7075 and the space shuttle nose is from #4467. NOt sure about the rest.

SprinkleOtter · January 2016

There's a 3182 Airport airplane nose in there. Can't tell much from the picture. I wouldn't say that $200 is too much, if stuff is complete.

Came64 · January 2016

There's a part of the für Helikopter #7206 .

MattsWhat · January 2016

Image is too small to go to town identifying stuff, but at that kind of money I have one question - are the minifigures in there? Although city minifigures are not overly valuable, a family who have kept them all in the box tends to fit well with one that won't have lost every piece smaller than 2x4 in my experience.

flord · January 2016

Thanks for the responses. Waiting to hear back from the seller.

Elkkthunder · January 2016

Any help with id or set

oldtodd33 · January 2016

The middle head is this. http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=3626bpb0072#T=S&C=86&O={"color":86}

The two yellow heads are old castle heads. http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=3626bpx120&idColor=3#T=S&C=3&O={"color":3}
http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=3626bpx122&idColor=3#T=S&C=3&O={"color":3}

Came64 · January 2016

Jram said:

Hi, first post. Putting together all my sets prior to selling, and have some pieces that I can't find/identify on Peeron.

Does anyone know if these Shell bricks are from the same set, or different ones?
If you look at the undersides, you'll see that one has two supports (on pillars 2 and 4, flush with the bottom edge) and one has a central support (which stops short of the bottom edge.)

Looking at the pieces I have left over, it's impossible to tell where they're from - I got a load of Lego from my big cousin in the very early 80s, but it seems to be a lot of incomplete sets.

oldtodd33 said:

@Jram That print only came in one set according to BL. http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=3009pb156#T=C

But Bricklink isn't always right.

MattsWhat · January 2016

Is that post-it an existing part? I can't find it on casual looking so I thought I would throw it out to you knowledgable lot.
Edit for clarification: not from a set photo, this is an image from lego club email.

Aanchir · January 2016

MattsWhat said:

Is that post-it an existing part? I can't find it on casual looking so I thought I would throw it out to you knowledgable lot.
Edit for clarification: not from a set photo, this is an image from lego club email.

It's a printed 1x1 tile, but yes, it's a brand-new print for the 2016 LEGO Friends sets. It also appears in Olivia's Exploration Car.

MattsWhat · January 2016

Thanks @Aanchir I skimmed through the pictures of friends but couldn't see it. Really fun piece, hope it turns up on B&P.

NicksBricks · January 2016

Looking for helping identifying this part. Thank you.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/xv/50rvbpnpstql.png

ColoradoBricks · January 2016

@NicksBricks , this ia Cockpit part : http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=4597

NicksBricks · January 2016

ColoradoBricks said:

@NicksBricks , this ia Cockpit part : http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=4597

Thank you.

BrotherBrain · January 2016

After scouring the bricklink catalog I am still unable to identify this Lego element. Please help!

Some background info:
I purchased this piece from a wonderful Lego shop called AA Place in Hong Kong. In addition to a great selection of new and retired sets they have a wall of individual elements available for purchase and that's where I found this one. The store is very reputable and I do not believe they would knowingly sell any knock off elements. It has "Lego" moulded at the bottom of the slope on the top of the brick. I could not find an element ID anywhere but the bottom has what looks like "2-03" moulded next to one of the tubes.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!

ColoradoBricks · January 2016

It is a fabuland piece: http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=787

BrotherBrain · January 2016

ColoradoBricks said:

It is a fabuland piece: http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=787

That's it! Thank you!

mcvitie · February 2016

Does anyone know the part number for the 1x1 quad slope that I think is new this year and features in some of the Nexus Knights sets?

TigerMoth · February 2016

mcvitie said:

Does anyone know the part number for the 1x1 quad slope that I think is new this year and features in some of the Nexus Knights sets?

The solid colours are 22388; the transparent ones are probably something else.

sdetsky · February 2016

I thought I was pretty good at scouring the parts catalogue at Bricklink but this one has me stumped. Hopefully the ninjas here can help.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/xp/26peye8rdg5n.jpg

Oldfan · February 2016

http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=2464&idColor=5#T=C&C=5

This one? If not, a picture from a different angle might be helpful, too.

sdetsky · February 2016

^ Thank you. Not sure how I missed that. It's odd that in a bulk buy where every part is from an identified set from 2012-present that a random piece contained in one set from 1994 was included!

Adelec · February 2016

Does anyone recognise this? Is it even Lego? I found it with a small batch of batman Lego. But I can't find it in any sets. There is a mark in it, but very difficult to see. May be an 11 or z. Any help would be great.

Bumblepants · February 2016

^My guess is that it is not Lego. Does it have a Lego brand marking and part number anywhere on it? If not it probably came from something else. Could be a Hero Factory/Bionicle thing but I am not that familiar with that system.

andhe · February 2016

It looks like the nose cone from batmobile on the animated series 'Batman: The brave and the bold'. I imagine it fires off the toy, but I'm not aware of any lego sets from that series.

Adelec · February 2016

Ok thanks, I will mark it down as non lego and bin it.

Aanchir · February 2016

Sometimes if you come across a Batman-looking part that doesn't quite look like LEGO, it might be from one of the McDonalds toys based on the LEGO Batman video game. I've seen those turn up in mixed LEGO lots before. But yeah, this one just looks non-LEGO.

SprinkleOtter · February 2016

I found some CMF stands without the LEGO logo on the studs today. That means that they are fakes, right?

oldtodd33 · February 2016

Yes.

SprinkleOtter · February 2016

Kriff. That means four of the decently valuable minifigures I found are fakes...

oldtodd33 · February 2016

Most likely. Check the torso studs to see if they have the Lego logo on them.

77ncaachamps · February 2016

Trev5374 said:

Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me what sets these are part of?

Thanks so much...

The dimples on the studs surely mean it's not a Lego piece.

it looked like a Halo Mega Bloks piece but I couldn't find one that matched.

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