75827 - Ghostbusters HQ (Coming In January 2016?)

brickupdate · January 2016

Oh wow! The HQ fits into the modular layout better than I thought it would! Also neat to see how the slit Pet Shop buildings help fill in the gaps between the longer HW and the modulars. Thanks for the photos.

Crap, now I have to justify spending $350 on this!

1265 · January 2016

I disagree. The HQ looks huge and out of place. The photos are taken from top-down, so perspective viewport is completely skewed.

SumoLego · January 2016

^ Weird urban planning, but good know it fits the modulars...

mmozzano · January 2016

Still really torn on this set, the build and end result look brilliant and the minifigures are great, it's just too big and I'd struggle to put it anywhere once built. £280 is a lot of money to spend to experience the build and putting it back into storage.

Armyofdarknessaw · January 2016

I almost jumped on ordering this last night. I was right on the edge. With it being brand new though i figured I'd buy the ferris wheel and cinema for $350 instead. Maybe in April when i plan to make a trip to the Lego store I'll get this set.

TheLoneTensor · January 2016

This is a perspective I always try to hold also, to help keep me grounded. For example, whenever I think about getting a Cafe Corner, I think that I could get four (maybe even five) of the current modulars for the same price.

AdeelZubair · January 2016

The #75827 - Ghostbusters, Firehouse Headquarters adds much more authenticity to the 'Modular Buildings' and would make LEGO cities more realistic with it's huge size and level of detail on three sides rather than the standard two for the modulars; much like #10228 - Haunted House, #71006 - The Simpsons House and #71016 - Kwik-E-Mart. The following is a great example I found on a LEGO Facebook group (not mine) which looks like a typical alleyway scene found in cartoons and comic books between 75827 and #10251 - Brick Bank.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/x0/paiaayttn5lb.jpg

TheLoneTensor · January 2016

Catzilla!

cheshirecat · January 2016

I'm guessing the cat is stuffed and put there to hide the back wall of the firehouse from being seen over the GE.

(To be honest I think it looks out of scale with the modulars.)

TheLoneTensor · January 2016

For being brick-built, that cat looks awesome.

binaryeye · January 2016

Another vote for the HQ looking completely out of place among the other modulars.

brickupdate · January 2016

With regards to scale, I picked a random corner in New York City to see how real world buildings scale next to each other.

So in this image, look at the corner building compared to the the one immediately to the left. It's 15 feet taller, not dissimilar to the LEGO Ghostbusters vs modulars.

If you look down the block to the right -- not the super tall building, but the 14 story building, as compared to the corner one, which is 5 stories and from another era.

I've spent a lot of time in NYC, and am used to buildings next to each other from very different eras, and wildly different scales. That is REAL WORLD from my experience.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/74/a1tjy1poto1k.png

brickupdate · January 2016

Or... we could look at the actual building used for the Ghostbuster's HQ. The building on the left corner is two stories tall, TINY. Yet both floors are about the size of the GB firetruck bay. The building to the right of the firehouse is not only DOUBLE the size of the firehouse, but the scale of the windows is tiny. compared to the grand windows of the firehouse. If this were LEGO, it would seem "off." Like two different scales. But this is reality.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/vl/3ttybk6odpkg.png

binaryeye · January 2016

It's not just the height but the scale. The first floor of the HQ is about 13 bricks tall while the first floor of a modular is 10 bricks tall. Also, it's a narrow building but is 20 studs wide vs. 16 studs wide for a narrow modular.

The scale is close in numbers, but the difference is enough that for me it just looks wrong with the modulars. If it looks okay to you, though, go for it. :)

ColoradoBricks · January 2016

That is a fire station 'hidden" in a neighborhood closed to me, the oversize garage for the fire truck looks out of scale, but that it was is needed. The door looks 4 times the size of the garage on the right. a GB HQ in the city layout would not look as odd as this :)

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/sl/q2tgqyke53bz.jpg

Xefan · January 2016

In pondering where I was going to put this set having built it I was surprised to find it's probably the most exact fit I've found to date for an Ikea Detolf shelf if you put it in level by level.

Still room for the car alongside it too. Only thing that has to be moved is the traffic light.

cheshirecat · January 2016

I have mine sitting proudly on a console table at the top of the stairs. Not that I 'own' #75827.

brickupdate · January 2016

binaryeye First, I agree that what "looks right" to each of us is unique. So I respect your own view.

In terms of things lining up, this is the corner opposite the GB HQ in NYC. None of the windows or floors line up from building to building. Everything from floor height, to window size is wildly out of whack, not just building height.

binaryeye · January 2016

brickupdate said:

If this were LEGO, it would seem "off." Like two different scales.

So we agree? ;)

Armyofdarknessaw · January 2016

I think it'll go great in a Lego city. Real building don't have set floor demensions or anything so it is entirely plausible to work in a Lego city. As long as it is Minifig scale that is aok to me.

JudgeChuck · January 2016

I am in complete agreement that this is "to scale". Buildings do not have set heights for floor-to-ceiling dimensions, which vary massively between, for example, a standard townhouse and most civic or commercial building, which will generally have much higher ceilings.
The bottom line, as ever, is "do *you* like it?". End of. :-)

TigerMoth · January 2016

Buildings don't match. The problem with the firehouse is what doesn't match. You end up with a Grand Emporium which is anything but grand and a Town Hall which looks like a small detached house. Those high ceilings are actually lower, especially when you consider it's up a couple of steps.

And then there's the Ecto. It matches the firehouse, but there's no way it matches the other buildings.

Briking · January 2016

Sorry about the quality of the photos! Just finished building and dropped it down a couple of places on my modular street. IMHO it is too big for the modulars.

TigerMoth · January 2016

Briking said:

Sorry about the quality of the photos! Just finished building and dropped it down a couple of places on my modular street. IMHO it is too big for the modulars.

I imagine the picture that would nail it is the Firehouse HQ, Fire Brigade and/or Town Hall side-by-side, taken square-on from about half way up.

I think it's 20% too big.

brickupdate · January 2016

Briking I like how the sky blue color of your walls really adds to the realism of the street!

VorpalRyu · January 2016

I think the issue is that the real building is one of the shorter structures in its immediate section of the neighbourhood & we're used to seeing it with other buildings around it. An automatic solution to this would be to add it to a modular layout, but the problem here is that it wasn't done to the same scale as the modulars.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5015319/uploads/editor/8q/u0vfqq5un8tz.jpg

SumoLego · January 2016

Adzbadboy said:

So, so, so many jokes.

I'll leave it at this...

brumey · January 2016

i was shocked to find stickers in my palace cinema!

well.... that GB HQ will also be one of those sets to keep misb!

AustinPowers · January 2016

TheLoneTensor said:

Catzilla!

Looks a bit like the Monster Cat from the Monty Python's Flying Circus "Killer cars" segment :-)

AllBrick · January 2016

VorpalRyu said:

I think the issue is that the real building is one of the shorter structures in its immediate section of the neighbourhood & we're used to seeing it with other buildings around it. An automatic solution to this would be to add it to a modular layout, but the problem here is that it wasn't done to the same scale as the modulars.

And if there was a scale modular it would cost what, £500 - £600?

JudgeChuck · January 2016

Surely the *scale* is fine, it's just that all the modulars are 2-3 stories high only. How many stories do those two other main buildings in the picture have? Ground floor plus 5 for one and ground floor plus 10 for the other! No modular could compete without having many extra floors added. If the modulars were simply scaled up to look bigger than the GBFH, their internal scales would be all wrong.
As I think I said earlier in this thread, you're either going to add it to your City and accept the differences, or you won't. :-)

brumey · January 2016

i wont. if i get it, it ll stay misb for a long long time!

JudgeChuck · January 2016

@brumey That's a different discussion entirely! ;-)

VorpalRyu · January 2016

@AllBrick, actually if it were done to the same scale as the modulars, it would have been cheaper, as it would have been smaller, but the Lego Ideas Ecto-1 would never have fitted into the garage...

Edit: Yay! 1,000 posts on here! :) :) :)

SumoLego · January 2016

I still think the Town Hall is mammoth as compared to the more recent modulars.

Roberto · January 2016

SumoLego said:

I still think the Town Hall is mammoth as compared to the more recent modulars.

Well, it's good to have such variety in size, number of floors, and height of the modulars: have you ever seen a city with buildings having the same height ? What really matters is that every modular is builded around minifig scale, so it is the Ghostbusters Headquarters.

SumoLego · January 2016

Paris and London have pretty stubby skylines.

sklamb · January 2016

London doesn't any more. Whether or not this is a good thing is a different question.

Roberto · January 2016

SumoLego said:

Paris and London have pretty stubby skylines.

Take a better look:
Rome https://postipasti.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/31-roma02.jpg
Paris http://thirdrailnola.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/paris-skyline.jpg
London https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7328/9469919915_9e63b88192_b.jpg

cheshirecat · January 2016

God I love Rome.

By the way, why is this continuing? Its clearly a matter of personal choice/opinion. Some of us think that the GB firehouse looks out of scale to modulars (especially the new ones) and some of us think they look great next to each other. I can't see anyone about to change their minds based on what 'real' cities look like.

piratemania7 · January 2016

^right.

I think it just depends on your "city" layout and how unique/creative you are with it. If you have MOC structures or other tidbits here and there it could be a great addition - either way; I think ANY layout with the GBHQ added is an improvement. :)

SumoLego · January 2016

Varying heights of buildings is not a criticism, by any means. If they were all the same height, some would be critical of the lack of variation.

And with respect to Paris and London, again, not a criticism. When I think of sky-scrapery skylines, Paris and London aren't at the top of the list. (Major cities in North America and Asia tend to have those types of skylines.)

Roberto · January 2016

cheshirecat said:

God I love Rome.

By the way, why is this continuing? Its clearly a matter of personal choice/opinion. Some of us think that the GB firehouse looks out of scale to modulars (especially the new ones) and some of us think they look great next to each other. I can't see anyone about to change their minds based on what 'real' cities look like.

I don't see anything bad in continuing this.
Nobody wants to change other people's opinions, just comparing them, it is the aim of any forum, isn't it?

I was only asking myself what makes people thinking of a Modular being or not being out of scale, considering that every modular is builded around minifig scale, so, too big in comparison with what, out of scale with what?. It was just curiosity, nothing else.
For example, you can say that Ghostbusters HQ has different features than those of modulars (hinges, opening), higher than modulars, we can say it's bigger than modulars, but how can we say it is out of scale considering it's based on minifig scale?

cheshirecat · January 2016

The death star is based on minifig scale. Would it look right next to the Parisian restaurant? And, yes obviously they've squashed the death star considerably, they've also squashed the restaurant - how many tables does it have again? How much clothing does the GE sell? How many pets in the pet shop? The firehouse and another modular may both be minifig scaled, but they are not designed at the same scale.

Paperballpark · January 2016

I think that the GB headquarters should be displayed with the modulars, if only for the fact that two toilets across all the modulars clearly isn't enough, so the extra one in the GB headquarters would surely be welcomed ;)

Sethro3 · January 2016

The picture at the end of page 14 I thought it looked really good in comparison (or at least, not as bad as I originally thought). The other pictures on page 15 made me think it is waaay out of scale/proportion. So maybe it just depends on what it is next to.

But overall, yes I do think it will still be a little too tall in comparison. Certainly there is always variety in heights of buildings, but something does feel off.

I've never been to NYC, so I was unaware of the mish-mash of buildings there.

Sethro3 · January 2016

It won't let me add to my above comment via edit, so here is a new one..

I do worry though considering the overall height/size of the HQ that when you do line it up next to a modular, that back will be exposed. Unlike most modulars that have a questionable color scheme somewhere, it can get hidden.

I know that was mentioned in other posts, but does anyone plan on rectifying that?

TigerMoth · January 2016

Roberto said:

I was only asking myself what makes people thinking of a Modular being or not being out of scale, considering that every modular is builded around minifig scale, so, too big in comparison with what, out of scale with what?. It was just curiosity, nothing else.

One aspect of that is that there is no such thing as minifig scale.

If you measure one dimension of a minifig and then calculate what the other dimensions should be, most of the time they're wrong. In a sense "minifig scale" is a range of scales, so buildings using different ones can all be considered to "match" a minifig in some respect, but the buildings won't necessarily match each other. It's like using an elastic ruler.

Roberto · January 2016

cheshirecat said:

The death star is based on minifig scale. Would it look right next to the Parisian restaurant? And, yes obviously they've squashed the death star considerably, they've also squashed the restaurant - how many tables does it have again? How much clothing does the GE sell? How many pets in the pet shop? The firehouse and another modular may both be minifig scaled, but they are not designed at the same scale.

Not completely true.

The Death star is builded in minifig scale for all its sub-scenarios, but the overall building is over-simplified, cramped - of course beautiful - and completely out of minifig scale (like obviously for all the biggest spaceships of Star Wars).

Regarding the modulars, don't make confusion between the concepts of simplified and out of minifigure scale. All Lego buildings or vehicles which are intended to suit with minifigures, for obvious reasons, have some restrictions in terms of space available. The nature itself of the minifigure is 2x1 studs, not 1x1, it is doubled in width, so it must be all the world around it. It is from here that comes all the necessity to ration the space around it and all the unnecessary repetitions. But this affect the quantity, not the scale: there are few tables, but those are in scale.

TheLoneTensor · January 2016

Roberto said:

cheshirecat said:

The death star is based on minifig scale. Would it look right next to the Parisian restaurant? And, yes obviously they've squashed the death star considerably, they've also squashed the restaurant - how many tables does it have again? How much clothing does the GE sell? How many pets in the pet shop? The firehouse and another modular may both be minifig scaled, but they are not designed at the same scale.

Not completely true.

The Death star is builded in minifig scale for all its sub-scenarios, but the overall building is over-simplified, cramped - of course beautiful - and completely out of minifig scale (like obviously for all the biggest spaceships of Star Wars).

Thank you for clarifying that the Death Star is not actually minifig scale.

75827 - Ghostbusters HQ (Coming In January 2016?)

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