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OT LEGO vs TFA LEGO

DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
edited December 2015 in Collecting
I held off getting extra copies of Old Trilogy Star Wars sets because as everyone has said there will always be remakes.  The past x-wing #9493 , Millenium Falcon #7965 , and the Tie Fighter #9492 were all magnificent models.  I have one of each used (except for the falcon because I sold it).  However, I really am not a fan of the newer models Lego has available (the falcon isn't much different though).  The OT sets are also rising fast in the aftermarket, although the falcon isn't going up as much.

I'm kicking myself now because I have decided to start buying sets for my future kids (including Friends sets which I have no idea about) if I have any.  My dad introduced me to the OT SW and I fell in love with the universe and story line.  I expect to show my kids the OT first, maybe the PT and then possibly TFA after.  To me, OT will always be superior and that's why I wish I had a new copy of the iconic vehicles for them instead of just TFA ones.  Does anyone think Lego will go back to making OT sets at some point in the future?  I don't care if it's even 10 years from now.  I just don't want TFA Legos to be the only SW available, but I know this could be a possibility seeing as it will be the SW that kids grow up with nowadays.

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  • ChubblesChubbles USAMember Posts: 459
    OT will always be popular, they will continue to make sets.  May not be as many but I doubt they'll ever really stop making them.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,325
    edited December 2015
    Dougout said:
    I held off getting extra copies of Old Trilogy Star Wars sets because as everyone has said there will always be remakes.  The past x-wing #9493 , Millenium Falcon #7965 , and the Tie Fighter #9492 were all magnificent models.  I have one of each used (except for the falcon because I sold it).  However, I really am not a fan of the newer models Lego has available (the falcon isn't much different though).  The OT sets are also rising fast in the aftermarket, although the falcon isn't going up as much.

    I'm kicking myself now because I have decided to start buying sets for my future kids (including Friends sets which I have no idea about) if I have any.  My dad introduced me to the OT SW and I fell in love with the universe and story line.  I expect to show my kids the OT first, maybe the PT and then possibly TFA after.  To me, OT will always be superior and that's why I wish I had a new copy of the iconic vehicles for them instead of just TFA ones.  Does anyone think Lego will go back to making OT sets at some point in the future?  I don't care if it's even 10 years from now.  I just don't want TFA Legos to be the only SW available, but I know this could be a possibility seeing as it will be the SW that kids grow up with nowadays.
    I would be very surprised if LEGO never remakes OT stuff. Maybe the rumored remake of UCS falcon is true because they could make another detailed OT falcon while the TFA one is out. In any case I would be surprised if there was not at least one OT version of the above sets in a few years (after the TFA ones run their planned production output).
  • DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
    Thanks guys, I really hope so too.  I've been slacking on my Lego collecting and didn't think about how TFA would replace most OT stuff currently.  You have given me hope :)
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,688
    I'm hoping they don't do too much OT stuff. Not from a reselling point of view as I have little OT/PT stuff left. But from a wanting something new view. Sure, they can do another OT X-wing, landspeeder and even MF. But unless they do something new to go with it, it's a waste of shelf space for me.

    For the first time in a while they have new material to use, I hope they use it.
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,812
    There will undoubtedly be a shift towards Ep7/8/9 etc as they come out, but I would still expect 30-40% of the Lego SW releases to be OT, they will always be popular.

    I've decided to go UCS only - I really liked the Cantina and would have been tempted to get 2 or 3 sets to combine for a decent sized one, but there is a matter of storage - I have a big Endor display at the moment at the sacrifice of a decent sized Hoth display, I suspect the Endor lot will be getting mothballed/sold soon. Hopefully TLG will stick primarily with OT for UCS sets (although a new TFA UCS MF would tempt me.
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,128
    CCC said:
    I'm hoping they don't do too much OT stuff. Not from a reselling point of view as I have little OT/PT stuff left. But from a wanting something new view. Sure, they can do another OT X-wing, landspeeder and even MF. But unless they do something new to go with it, it's a waste of shelf space for me.

    For the first time in a while they have new material to use, I hope they use it.

    CCC said:
    I'm hoping they don't do too much OT stuff. Not from a reselling point of view as I have little OT/PT stuff left. But from a wanting something new view. Sure, they can do another OT X-wing, landspeeder and even MF. But unless they do something new to go with it, it's a waste of shelf space for me.

    For the first time in a while they have new material to use, I hope they use it.
    I really think this might be more likely than people think.  Keep in mind we are getting a new Star Wars movie every single year for the next 5 years minimum. Each of those movies is bound to get at least one wave, and in the case of episodes 7, 8, and 9 it is more likely 2 waves per movie.  This isnt going  to leave a ton of slots available for OT stuff.  I still expect the UCS sets to likely skew OT, but winter 2016/17 is Rogue One, Summer 2017 is episode 8, with winter 17/18 a likely second wave for that movie. Sprinkle in a few Rebels sets here and there, and that's a pretty full lineup without resorting to rehashes  
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,325
    dougts said:
    CCC said:
    I'm hoping they don't do too much OT stuff. Not from a reselling point of view as I have little OT/PT stuff left. But from a wanting something new view. Sure, they can do another OT X-wing, landspeeder and even MF. But unless they do something new to go with it, it's a waste of shelf space for me.

    For the first time in a while they have new material to use, I hope they use it.

    CCC said:
    I'm hoping they don't do too much OT stuff. Not from a reselling point of view as I have little OT/PT stuff left. But from a wanting something new view. Sure, they can do another OT X-wing, landspeeder and even MF. But unless they do something new to go with it, it's a waste of shelf space for me.

    For the first time in a while they have new material to use, I hope they use it.
    I really think this might be more likely than people think.  Keep in mind we are getting a new Star Wars movie every single year for the next 5 years minimum. Each of those movies is bound to get at least one wave, and in the case of episodes 7, 8, and 9 it is more likely 2 waves per movie.  This isnt going  to leave a ton of slots available for OT stuff.  I still expect the UCS sets to likely skew OT, but winter 2016/17 is Rogue One, Summer 2017 is episode 8, with winter 17/18 a likely second wave for that movie. Sprinkle in a few Rebels sets here and there, and that's a pretty full lineup without resorting to rehashes  
    I think you will see less prequel stuff before less OT stuff.
    gmonkey76monkeyhanger
  • goshe7goshe7 Columbus, Ohio, USAMember Posts: 515
    There will undoubtedly be a shift towards Ep7/8/9 etc as they come out, but I would still expect 30-40% of the Lego SW releases to be OT, they will always be popular.
    I would love to see data on the demographics of AFOL.  My (unsubstantiated) opinion is that there is a glut of middle-aged men.  AFOL-dom rejuvinated by kids and nostalgic for the Star Wars they grew up with.  That population is fueling a large portion of the demand for OT.

    If that is correct, OT interest will dwindle as the population ages (and diminishes as kids enter their dark ages).  There won't be a subsequent boom in demand as TFA will be the Star Wars that the present kids identify with and are nostalgic to experience.   However, since many of the OT characters are iconic, I cannot see it ever going completely away. 
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,128
    dougts said:
    CCC said:
    I'm hoping they don't do too much OT stuff. Not from a reselling point of view as I have little OT/PT stuff left. But from a wanting something new view. Sure, they can do another OT X-wing, landspeeder and even MF. But unless they do something new to go with it, it's a waste of shelf space for me.

    For the first time in a while they have new material to use, I hope they use it.

    CCC said:
    I'm hoping they don't do too much OT stuff. Not from a reselling point of view as I have little OT/PT stuff left. But from a wanting something new view. Sure, they can do another OT X-wing, landspeeder and even MF. But unless they do something new to go with it, it's a waste of shelf space for me.

    For the first time in a while they have new material to use, I hope they use it.
    I really think this might be more likely than people think.  Keep in mind we are getting a new Star Wars movie every single year for the next 5 years minimum. Each of those movies is bound to get at least one wave, and in the case of episodes 7, 8, and 9 it is more likely 2 waves per movie.  This isnt going  to leave a ton of slots available for OT stuff.  I still expect the UCS sets to likely skew OT, but winter 2016/17 is Rogue One, Summer 2017 is episode 8, with winter 17/18 a likely second wave for that movie. Sprinkle in a few Rebels sets here and there, and that's a pretty full lineup without resorting to rehashes  
    I think you will see less prequel stuff before less OT stuff.
    I'm saying you will see less of both.  I'd say almost no prequel stuff at all, and minimal OT stuff. There's a new SW movie every year, so plenty of new stuff for Disney and LEGO to put out in brick form that has current movie tie-ins
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Brickset's Secret HeadquatersMember Posts: 1,757
    I think the OT stuff you will see is likely for the moment to be, in the majority, small sets. Such as the Carbon Freezing chamber. With the new films released there is a higher demand for the ships and set pieces kids and fans see in the films than the other films. Therefore Lego know that these are likely to sell and so will use them in the more expensive sets to get more sales. They know that the OT/PT stuff will sell but not as well as the new items so will limit it a bit more. However, expect the USC stuff to be a lot of OT stuff as that is geared towards adult collectors more than kids. 
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,688
    It will be interesting to see what happens when the generation that "own" the prequels become parents and whether this will affect the ratio of PT to OT.
    catwrangler
  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,281
    they could also increase the number of star wars sets released (maybe they would have to cut down numbers elsewhere). 
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,438
    edited December 2015
    Don't think we have to worry Disney and Lego will milk the cash cow for all it is worth.
  • xwingpilotxwingpilot UKMember Posts: 797
    I'm actually quite disappointed with the TFA sets (and glad glad that as an OT collector I wasn't intending on buying these).

    #75104 doesn't have wings that angle in the way that Kylo Ren's Command Shuttle should; #75102, #75125 and #30278 don't have the offset upper and lower wings that are a major distinguishing feature of a T-70 X-wing; and who knows if #75100 and #75126 are accurate representations of First Order Snowspeeders, given that you only ever see one stationary in silhouette in the background of one scene in the film.

    Whether it's TLG's or Lucasfilm's fault I don't know, but I trying to release sets from limited pre-production information before the film has been released hasn't produced the best results IMO.
  • monkyby87monkyby87 Member Posts: 306
    I'm actually quite disappointed with the TFA sets (and glad glad that as an OT collector I wasn't intending on buying these).

    #75104 doesn't have wings that angle in the way that Kylo Ren's Command Shuttle should; #75102, #75125 and #30278 don't have the offset upper and lower wings that are a major distinguishing feature of a T-70 X-wing; and who knows if #75100 and #75126 are accurate representations of First Order Snowspeeders, given that you only ever see one stationary in silhouette in the background of one scene in the film.

    Whether it's TLG's or Lucasfilm's fault I don't know, but I trying to release sets from limited pre-production information before the film has been released hasn't produced the best results IMO.

    This was the problem with the Hobbit sets; they were all planned before the film was split into the final 3, so they were stuck with making changes at the last minute and having questionable release schedules on sets.  However, they're forced to do this as they can't wait until the movie is out, or close to being out, to start planning and designing sets.  They'd never get them out on time to coincide with the movies that way.  It's all kind of inherent with sets being based on a very popular and secretive movie.
    gmonkey76kiki180703
  • AllBrickAllBrick UKMember Posts: 1,404
    Can someone please change the title of the thread, "legos", ugh
    Lay-goes. 
    kiki180703
  • ryjayryjay Member Posts: 994
    None of TFA Star Wars sets have grabbed my attention.  Even the Carbon Freezing set from the OT being released in the next wave is a yawner.  The bacon factory #75139 from TFA was a total miss of a set....that had the potential of being something.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,844
    edited December 2015
    Can someone please change the title of the thread, "legos", ugh
    Legoes?

    Too close to Legolas.  Now I'm confused and feel the need to aggressively mount a mumakill.

    @CapnRex101, or @drdavewatford ;- I know you want to be the grammar police.
    kiki180703
  • khmellymelkhmellymel United KingdomMember Posts: 1,226
    I just bought Rey's Speeder, my first real Star Wars set in years.  My (non Star Wars fan, Lego hatin') bf looked at the box and said, "Oh, I like this one, I think it looks the best from all those other ones you looked at".  Which makes it an automatic WIN in my book!
    kiki180703
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 11,844
    Les-Goes
    kiki180703
  • MrJ_NYMrJ_NY A flick missle away from Brickagara FallsMember Posts: 592
    Lego my Eggo's

    kiki180703SumoLegogmonkey76khmellymelnychromastonericecakeGoldchains
  • MrJ_NYMrJ_NY A flick missle away from Brickagara FallsMember Posts: 592
    edited January 2016
    Oh and I just bought some OT sets on clearance
    Dougout
  • AltairAltair FranceMember Posts: 50
    As a SW OT lover (and prequel hater) owning all the main related sets, I was not planning on buying any TFA sets. But after seeing the new movie, I found it so amazing that I couldn't help getting 75099, 75102 and 75104 (for discounted prices). The first two are great as they are, and I just modified Kylo Ren's shuttle so that the wings could fold as in the movie. I won't buy the new MF nor TF as I have 7965 and 9492 which look almost the same, but I am about to get 75139 (mainly for the minfigs of Finn, Maz and Kylo Ren without mask).
  • DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
    MrJ_NY said:
    Oh and I just bought some OT sets on clearance
    Nice job, those are all really good sets to get on clearance this far after Christmas
    MrJ_NYkiki180703
  • MrJ_NYMrJ_NY A flick missle away from Brickagara FallsMember Posts: 592
    edited January 2016
    I followed @pharmjod ; home from the Forums & finally found his stash of $109 Millenium Falcons,I will leave out the fact they were hidden behind cases of adult diapers. Ooops!
    I guess this set is OT/TFA blend.


  • monstblitzmonstblitz Alexandria, VAMember Posts: 591
    IMHO, the only cool TFA sets are remakes of OT.  MF, Tie Fighter, and Poe's X-wing.  The rest are awful.  But the movie really didn't give them much to go on. 
  • CircleKCircleK U.S. - Columbus, OhioMember Posts: 1,055
    IMHO, the only cool TFA sets are remakes of OT.  MF, Tie Fighter, and Poe's X-wing.  The rest are awful.  But the movie really didn't give them much to go on. 
    I thought the same thing until I saw the Resistance Troop Transport. Maybe it's the nods to the b-wing that gets me, but its the first TFA "original" that I really like.
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    Having built them all, the TFA sets as a whole have been 'meh'.

    TFA MF vs OT MF: OT MF wins as they are near identical in build but the TFA MF tries and fails at making it look weathered with the alternating dark bley plates. The minifig line-up is not as good, considering there is only 3 figs exclusive to this set (Old Han and the 2 Kanjiklub thugs) with only 1 even being desirable.

    TFA X-wing vs. OT X-wing: This fared better than I thought it would actually. The difference in color scheme made a big difference in the feel of the build compared to the normal white with red details we've experienced multiple times with the OT X-wing in system and UCS scale. I really like the finished appearance and looking forward to the blue Resistance version to sit next to it. Weirdly nice like seeing the same car but in 3 colors sitting next to each other. The fig selection was great too, with the improved helmet & visor combo.

    TFA TIE vs. OT TIE: The build experience was very similar to each other. The color change didn't affect or add to it as much as the X-wing. The finished ship appears very close but less visually fluid or seamless around the cockpit compared to the OT TIE in nearly all uniform black with light bley highlights. Fig selection on this one is relatively weak compared to its RRP, with the FO Crew Member also being found in the Kylo Shuttle set and the small Battlepack set.

    The remaining are original sets without OT versions. But my review on them would be...

    Rey's Speeder: Best value for your buck set out of the wave. The Speeder is just great, nice small build, accurate to the real thing.

    FO Snowspeeder: Is a weak build at $40 RRP, the construction is quite quick and not much bigger than Rey's Speeder in finished form. The fig selection is also weak, with essentially the same single FO Snowtrooper as in the Micro-Speeder set except these have either a Kama skirt or Pauldron on the shoulder.

    FO Troop Transporter: A so-so build experience, being that it was sufficiently long but lacked any creative techniques or anything impressive really. The finished vehicle feels mediocre for its RRP, even though its appearance in the movie made it look more badass than it ends up being in the brick. The saving grace is the nice selection of figs, Phasma and a couple Flametroopers. The Resistance fighters can be had for cheap on the market, so no biggie there.

    Ren's Shuttle: The build was blah, as you can imagine the only substantial build was around the fuselage which is relatively small and simple. The huge wings were easy and quick to build, with the sliding function to be an interesting technique usable for other purposes like say a sliding bay door on a Blackhawk Helicopter for instance. But the finished vehicle is indeed impressive due to it's imposing footprint from the wings. I would be interested in having this redone as a UCS scale model. The figures on this are stellar, as this is the only one to get the hooded Kylo Ren and Hux. The other figs are just variants of FO Stormtrooper (with Pauldron), FO Officer (Female), FO Crew Member (brown head).
    Poochykiki180703
  • chrisalddinchrisalddin UKMember Posts: 2,860
    CircleK said:
    IMHO, the only cool TFA sets are remakes of OT.  MF, Tie Fighter, and Poe's X-wing.  The rest are awful.  But the movie really didn't give them much to go on. 
    I thought the same thing until I saw the Resistance Troop Transport. Maybe it's the nods to the b-wing that gets me, but its the first TFA "original" that I really like.
    i will be getting  Resistance Troop Transport set.
    it just look's so so good.

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