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A further Xmas re-release: 40093 Snowman (2014)

bok2bok2 Member Posts: 53
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This time the re-release is a real re-release, not a modified one.

The currently available 40093 Snowman has a box batch production date of week 38 year (201)5 and the outer 6-pack cardboard box caries a corresponding production date of 15 September 2015.

Has this happened before for seasonal sets?

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  • AleyditaAleydita Member Posts: 952
    There's going to be a shortage of Lego this Xmas and there's no room in the manufacturing schedules. Yeah, of course :)
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    There's no way of telling when the bricks were made.
  • MugenPowerMugenPower Member Posts: 633
    bok2 said:
    This time the re-release is a real re-release, not a modified one.

    The currently available 40093 Snowman has a box batch production date of week 38 year (201)5 and the outer 6-pack cardboard box caries a corresponding production date of 15 September 2015.

    Has this happened before for seasonal sets?
    Where did you find this?
  • bok2bok2 Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2015
    I found it in the Lego Store in Copenhagen.

    At first I thought it was left-over boxes from last year, however, the production codes indicated they were made recently. Actually, they were made after the 2015 Xmas sets 40124 and 40125 which are from week 29.

    Indeed, when the actual bricks were moulded nobody knows.
  • pharmjodpharmjod Member Posts: 2,916
    They are showing up at TRU also per reports at Brickpicker.
  • MugenPowerMugenPower Member Posts: 633
    pharmjod said:
    They are showing up at TRU also per reports at Brickpicker.
    I saw it on the TRU site earlier today with the "NEW!" tag on the page but wasn't sure if it was just some old page I stumbled upon.  It's still there but shows no availability online or in-store.
  • DNADNA Member Posts: 89
    I picked the snowman up a few days ago at TRU when I went in looking for minifigure cases. Once I saw the snowman I wondered if there was a reindeer so I looked around but there weren't any. They show up as not online or in store but I dropped my nephew off at work there earlier today and there were at least a dozen on the shelf. Ever since I bought this thing I've had the song from Frozen in my head, "Do you want to build a snowman..."
    kiki180703
  • chuckpchuckp Member Posts: 684
    DNA said:
    ... Ever since I bought this thing I've had the song from Frozen in my head, "Do you want to build a snowman..."
    Sorry to hear that. :)
  • SirBenSirBen Member Posts: 592
    Are they showing up at $3.99 like the #40090 Halloween Bats were!?
  • dannyrwwdannyrww Member Posts: 1,394
    Too bad it isn't $3.99 like the bat was.
  • chuckpchuckp Member Posts: 684
    ^^ I scanned one at TRU the other day and it was $9.99. They are $9.99 on TRU as well.
    http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=66869526
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    Is this really a re-release?  It's the same set.
  • ryjayryjay Member Posts: 1,001
    $9.99, but they were on the shelf next to the $3.99 bats! :)
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    SumoLego said:
    Is this really a re-release?  It's the same set.
    No, other (winter) sets have disappeared before, then reappeared the next year.


    Paperballpark
  • Pumpkin_3CK5Pumpkin_3CK5 Member Posts: 805
    edited November 2015
     ^It's Christmas magic.
  • bok2bok2 Member Posts: 53
    When an officially retired set (as 40093) is brought back in production it is released again and thus is a re-release.
    CCC
  • MugenPowerMugenPower Member Posts: 633
    Not sure why I passed up on it last year but they were at my local TRU and I got it.
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    If it has the same set number, then it is not a re-release. It's the same set. Even if it has a different box, it is still the same set.
    cheshirecatCircleKBumblepants
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    bok2 said:
    When an officially retired set (as 40093) is brought back in production it is released again and thus is a re-release.

    Who said it was retired? As others have said, it's common for seasonal sets to sell out or disappear after the Holidays and then make a return during the next season. Even the Winter Village sets follow this pattern.
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    TLG. On their web site. I presume that's what "Retired product" means.
  • leetshoeleetshoe Member Posts: 262
    So is #10245 a rerelease too?
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    TigerMoth said:
    TLG. On their web site. I presume that's what "Retired product" means.
    Yeah I see that now. That is strange. I thought the typical pattern was for seasonal items to have a "Sold Out" status until they returned the following year. Retired should mean Retired. 
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    leetshoe said:
    So is #10245 a rerelease too?
    Has that set number been available before?
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,791
    Fairly such that LEGO has re-released these little seasonal build sets before to stores and I'm sure LEGO 'retired' them during the year because they are relatively small and out of season. No one should be surprised by this and this is not any kind of further indication of LEGO's  'master plan' to re-release everything. They are 9.99 USD sets. It is likely much more cost effective for LEGO to release these little kitschy sets to other retailers again and not have to develop any newer small such sets each year.
    pharmjod
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    Legoboy said:
    leetshoe said:
    So is #10245 a rerelease too?
    Has that set number been available before?
    Last year.
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    TigerMoth said:
    Legoboy said:
    leetshoe said:
    So is #10245 a rerelease too?
    Has that set number been available before?
    Last year.
    And it retired?  Or dI'd they just cease trading out of the holiday season?  Like most retailers do with Christmas trees?
  • iso3200iso3200 Member Posts: 2,065
    ^Still listed as retired product on [email protected] uk
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    Yet available in shops.  ;)
  • iso3200iso3200 Member Posts: 2,065
    Including the brand store I visited during the week...
  • khmellymelkhmellymel Member Posts: 1,313
    Could be that it was just mistakenly entered into the database/site just sucks.  Or a combination of the two ;)
    Bumblepants
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,636
    khmellymel said:
    Could be that it was just mistakenly entered into the database/site just sucks.  Or a combination of the two ;)
    This.
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    Legoboy said:
    TigerMoth said:
    Legoboy said:
    leetshoe said:
    So is #10245 a rerelease too?
    Has that set number been available before?
    Last year.
    And it retired?  Or dI'd they just cease trading out of the holiday season?  Like most retailers do with Christmas trees?
    You can only go by what they say.
     
    If you want to start playing the game of doublethink, then that's only going to end up one way. They'll say a seasonal set is retired. People will interpret that as meaning it'll be back next year. And when it isn't, they'll complain that they've missed out because they've not done what they usually do, but what they've said!

    The new Toy Shop is likely to be retired after Christmas. You'd be stupid to assume that it'll be back next year.
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    ^It is common place for LEGO to cease trading seasonal items once the season has passed.  You'lloyd find most retailers do.  Sometimes they return the following season, sometimes they don't. When I see them on the shelves, I assume they are actually there and not a figment of my imagination.  I can only go with what I see.
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    If they say a set's retired, you work with that. If it comes back, it still may have been retired. They can change their mind. You don't even get the benefit of hindsight because you don't know what's going on.
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    It is usual for a Winter Village set to return for a second season, despite 'retiring' after its first season.  This is common practice and I can assure you, no special powers were used to think that might well have been the case this year.  No surprise that Santa's Workshops are around now.  Out of retirement?  No.  'Tis the seasonal to be jolly, again.

    The exception to this of course was Post Office.  A one off?  Who knows?  I don't what's going on.
  • Bosstone100Bosstone100 Member Posts: 1,431
    edited November 2015
    I think it's only a rerelease if the set is retired first. I don't believe the snowman was retired last year. I've seen quite a few holiday sets come back for second year after having sold out the year before. 
    Legoboy
  • JahcursJahcurs Member Posts: 40
    If it's the same set number and the same actual set but different packaging then it's not a re-release? Much like the updated packaging on some modulars. Anyway I don't think it's worth getting your knickers in a twist about. 
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,791
    Legoboy said:
    It is usual for a Winter Village set to return for a second season, despite 'retiring' after its first season.  This is common practice and I can assure you, no special powers were used to think that might well have been the case this year.  No surprise that Santa's Workshops are around now.  Out of retirement?  No.  'Tis the seasonal to be jolly, again.

    The exception to this of course was Post Office.  A one off?  Who knows?  I don't what's going on.
    Fairly certain Post office was not a 'one off', just not many made for its second run and it was sold out early into its second year run (which 2 seasons is the standard production for most Winter Village set since). Combine this with the general thought that it would be out for many years like the Toy shop (original toy shop) and Bakery were (which I think was three years a piece) and it seemed like it was out for only one season.
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    madforLEGO said:
    Legoboy said:
    It is usual for a Winter Village set to return for a second season, despite 'retiring' after its first season.  This is common practice and I can assure you, no special powers were used to think that might well have been the case this year.  No surprise that Santa's Workshops are around now.  Out of retirement?  No.  'Tis the seasonal to be jolly, again.

    The exception to this of course was Post Office.  A one off?  Who knows?  I don't what's going on.
    Fairly certain Post office was not a 'one off', just not many made for its second run and it was sold out early into its second year run (which 2 seasons is the standard production for most Winter Village set since). Combine this with the general thought that it would be out for many years like the Toy shop (original toy shop) and Bakery were (which I think was three years a piece) and it seemed like it was out for only one season.
    You're right, the orginal Toy Shop an The Bakery were available for 3 years a piece.

    I'm not aware of any Winter Village set however, other than Post Office being around for only  one season.  Following the release of Post Office, since both Cottage and Market were around for two seasons, it's not unreasonable to expect Santa's Workshop to have followed.  I just wouldn't consider a seasonal set retired just because Christmas has passed for that year.
  • iso3200iso3200 Member Posts: 2,065
    Were the WV Cottage and WV Market Market marked as retired after the first year on [email protected] or just sold out before it came back?
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    ^ i thought they were just marked as sold out. 
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