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  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,939
    Yup, staying logged in. Once again, thanks for all the hard work you put in!
  • LegobrandonCPLegobrandonCP CanadaMember Posts: 1,912
    Is it possible for the forum link on the homepage to take me to "all discussions" view on the forum? I'm signed in on the main site.
  • ricecakericecake Maryland, USAMember Posts: 879
    edited February 2014
    Hi, I am having an issue with the news and activity RSS feed. It seems that the links to the new Star Wars sets added to the database are returning 404 errors, probably because of the angle brackets around Star Wars (to try and make them italics). The link that the RSS feed is trying to take me to is: 
    http://www.brickset.com/sets/850996-1/LEGO%C2%AE-%3Ci%3EStar-Wars%3C-i%3E-Darth-Vader-Key-Chain
    EDIT: on here, it seems like it converts the % 3C and % 3E to angle brackets, so I've put it in a code block to hopefully try to preserve the link verbatim.

    EDIT2: It did not work, it converted them in the code block as well.
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    edited February 2014
    Thanks -- I'll get them tidied up. It happens when new sets are found in LEGO's activity feed which, as you can tell, contain some right dodgy characters.

    The article titles were truncated, too, weren't they. I'll try and get the code sorted so it works better next time new sets are found.
  • iso3200iso3200 97 miles from Brickset TowersMember Posts: 2,048
    Favicon seems to have disappeared. Got two red lines (parallels?) instead of bricks.
  • masterX244masterX244 GermanyMember Posts: 517
    same for me @iso3200 and its the paralells icon as far as i know
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    That'll be because of Cloudflare caching it. I'll edit the proper one this week and upload with Friday's updates so that should cause CF to start serving the proper one again.
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,939
    Speaking of the little icons in the tabs, I never get a 'Brickset' icon for forum tabs, just a generic white square sort of thing. Is that normal? (It's been that way for as long as I can remember though, now that I think of it)

    For the main site I get the Parallels icon in Widows and the proper Brickset on Ubuntu.
  • ricecakericecake Maryland, USAMember Posts: 879
    Huw said:

    Thanks -- I'll get them tidied up. It happens when new sets are found in LEGO's activity feed which, as you can tell, contain some right dodgy characters.

    The article titles were truncated, too, weren't they. I'll try and get the code sorted so it works better next time new sets are found.

    Thanks, the links all work great now. The titles are still being truncated, but since the links work, I think that's the most important thing. Thanks for the great site! :)
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    Any chance the forum can have the "search brickset sets" text field back? I really, really, really, really, really, really miss it.
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,939
    ^Ditto. I literally just realised there was only the one (forum) search box today. I don't use either much, but when I did, I definitely used the Brickset box more than the Forum one.
  • BorgataBorgata Member Posts: 22
    I see the old favicon has been restored!
    Great thing, my brickset's link in the bookmarks seems so "anonymous" before!
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    TheLoneTensor said:

    Any chance the forum can have the "search brickset sets" text field back? I really, really, really, really, really, really miss it.

    So...any chance of this happening?
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    If I can work out where to put it without it interfering with the forum search, yes.
  • margotmargot Member Posts: 2,310
    Routinely having to log back in to the forum from my desktop today.
  • flowerpotgirlflowerpotgirl ScotlandMember Posts: 150
    ^ yes It is not keeping me logged in either.
  • ricecakericecake Maryland, USAMember Posts: 879
    I got the sign in page a few times when clicking on some links, but if I just clicked "Back" and then on the link again, I would be signed in again.
  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    I've been using the new design for a whlie now, and having seen the previews (which I had concerns about) I've been holding back from giving my feedback until the bugs had been ironed and I'd been using it a bit.

    Background .. I know a fair bit about interface design and use touch screen devices 100% of the time.

    Overall, I find this really painful to use for 3 reasons
    (1) Scale - the whole thing is too big. hardly anything fits on my (usually spacious) screen. The whole site is scaled about 15-30% too big.
    (2) Wasted real estate - combined with the above, this really does my head in. On a 1366x768 screen, on a set listings page, you can't even see the first item! That really shouldn't happen these days.
    (3) Lack of balance - on many screens everything is shouting, and the readability really suffers as a result. Trying to visually scan set names in a list of sets is an obstacle course of big bold icons and things everywhere, the cognitive load is much higher on many pages for no good reason.

    Overall, it looks better and is more functional but much of it is worse to use. Just the scale issue alone would swing this.

    Anyway, just my 2c, I know Im probably p--ing in the wind :)
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    Thanks Simon for your comments :)

    Thankfully, I think you are in a minority: I believe the consensus is that the design works well. There's been a vast increase in the rate at which new users are joining since it launched which I think corroborates this.

    1. I thought the scale was too large as well to start with, particularly on a widescreen desktop but after having used it for months now, I don't think that's the case at all.

    2. The set listing page can be switched to 'classic view' if you don't like the larger layout

    3. There's aren't any 'big bold icons' on any pages that I'm aware of. To which page do you refer?
  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    edited March 2014
    Set listing pages for example have icons everywhere and relative weights are all over the place.

    Exactly, I'm expecting that I'm in the minority on any chosen design commitee and certainly don't expect any change at this point in time of course .. Just felt a responsibility to lodge my feedback because one day this design too will get a refresh.
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    Are you viewing a different page to the rest of us? There are no icons on the set listings pages, just set thumbnails as far as I can see.
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,263
    Huw said:

    If I can work out where to put it without it interfering with the forum search, yes.

    What was wrong with the way it was before with the set search where the forum search is now and the forum search at the top of the right side column within the "white" portion of the page?

  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    ^^ maybe it just changed :)
    Certainly the weights look different now.
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    OK, cool, maybe you had a cached stylesheet or something.
  • weevinweevin Member Posts: 34
    Would it be possible to add functionality to the forums to have a pop-up show up when you hover over a linked LEGO set? I'm picturing something like www.wowhead.com (World of Warcraft items) when you hover over a link for an item, it shows you the details of the item without having to click through to see exactly what it is. It would be awesome when someone linked an item ( #10197 ) if the title of the set (Fire Brigade) and the main picture from the database, and any other information desired showed up temporarily during mouseover.

    Thanks a bunch!
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    What, like this? Install the IE accelerator :)
  • MatthewMatthew Cheshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 3,734
    Some of us prefer to use a half-decent browser @Huw ;o)
    PaperballparkkhmellymelBumblepantsCapnRex101
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,287
    edited March 2014
    ^ Totally off topic, but good for a laugh:



    Don't worry Bing, I am sure it is all meant in good humour...
    TheLoneTensor
  • jonboy2000jonboy2000 Member Posts: 239
    Not sure if this is the place to post this. I've been having problems with the main sire recently and can't work out what's wrong. When I start tying the set name in the search is doesn't show me a list of options that narrows the more I type. When I hover over the tabs i.e Forum it doesn't give me the drop down options. When I look at a set page I just get the set name and the info box on the right. No set picture, tabs at the top i.e minifigures and no tabs at the bottom i.e instructions. This only happens on chrome but not internet explorer? Any help would be appreciated.
  • AleyditaAleydita BelgiumMember Posts: 871
    jonboy2000 said:
    Not sure if this is the place to post this. I've been having problems with the main sire recently and can't work out what's wrong. When I start tying the set name in the search is doesn't show me a list of options that narrows the more I type. When I hover over the tabs i.e Forum it doesn't give me the drop down options. When I look at a set page I just get the set name and the info box on the right. No set picture, tabs at the top i.e minifigures and no tabs at the bottom i.e instructions. This only happens on chrome but not internet explorer? Any help would be appreciated.

    Could be a cached corrupt JavaScript file.
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    Yes it sounds like a JavaScript problem. Have you disabled it?
  • AthosAthos Member Posts: 4
    I really am not liking the bricklink "sales" coming up on the sales page. A lot of what is listed there are incomplete sets or only the instructions. So you have to wade through a bunch of 90% off sales, which are really just instructions to find what you are looking for. I really liked being able to see what Walmart, Amazon and Target had all together, but the bricklink sales are making a mess.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,717
    Erm, @Athos, you do realise that this thread is about the redesigned Brickset website, not the redesign of the Bricklink website? Bricklink is completely separate to Brickset.
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    Pulling in data from BrickLink is a new thing that I've been working on. More functionality will go live tomorrow.

    However, from my initial observations I agree that the data in the BrickLink feed is a bit messy. For example, items marked as new and sealed are sometimes just separately bagged sub-sets from a larger set which is not ideal.

    While the system is bedding in I'll be working with BrickLink to try and resolve issues such as this.


  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,856
    Although it is a little messy, it is very useful to be able to compare BL and amazon prices together. I hope it doesn't disappear.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,717
    Well, don't I feel a fool now! :P
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,900
    edited November 2015
    I just had a look after reading this and bricklink has been added which is good for things on your wanted list that are not sold anymore. When you chick though it takes you to a search with 'Condition' set as 'New' but if you chick into this you can see that 'Sealed' 'Complete' and 'Incomplete' are all selected so taking off 'Incomplete' should solve the problem (how this is done from the brickset side I will leave to Huw). Another great new feature, thanks.
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    ^ That's the theory, but I think it depends how the vendor lists the items.

    The Crooks Hideout, for example, the one with the highest discount in the UK, appears even if you filter to show just new and sealed: http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?view=buy&S=60068-1#T=S&O={"cond":"N","ii":0,"ic":0,"loc":"UK"}

    Which might be valid given the actual polybag it's in may well be but it's certainly not what a buyer of the set would expect.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,856
    That's because the seller is not really telling the truth. Although the bag is sealed, the set isn't.
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,900
    edited November 2015
    ^ I would agree, there is not a lot you can do about people listing things incorrectly. It will also mess with bricklinks sold prices, maybe its something you can bring up with them. I also would never really think of using bricklink in the say way as Argos of Toys R Us so a % off list is less useful than it would be for normal shops. 
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,900
    But having a base price for older items is very helpful.
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,329
    edited November 2015
    +1 for wanting to remove/hide bricklink from the list of vendors, it's really not the same (seeing as you have to factor in shipping/minimum order/condition/Seller feedback etc)
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,856
    The same could be said of ebay in many cases.
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,329
    yes, but eBay doesn't show up in the View Discounts in the UK section - Bricklink doesn't compare like the other shops there.
  • tecjamtecjam Germany / SwitzerlandMember Posts: 255
    Any chance you could disable the Cookie Notice Script for logged in users?
    It keeps covering the 'back to top' button and I didn't think it was necessary for members (maybe update the t&c?).
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    In theory once you've dismissed it should save a cookie (oh, the irony...) and not trouble you again. What browser are you using? 
  • tecjamtecjam Germany / SwitzerlandMember Posts: 255
    edited November 2015
    Yes the functionality is there and it does work once you click it, I just like to avoid extra clicks. =)

    On the ebay site for example, the cookie notice is more irritating as it pushes down the entire page, but once you've logged in, it doesn't bother you, so I don't click it as I always browse logged in anyway.
    I was just wondering if this was possible here as I do not see any reason to display it for registered users ( as far as my legal knowledge goes anyway).
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,690
    I guess it could be hidden easily enough once you're logged in. Leave it with me...
    tecjam
  • Bricklover18Bricklover18 PA, USAMember Posts: 720
    Did you happen to switch servers, the mobile site is different, but I like it. Good job!
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UK / KLMember Posts: 3,717
    Yeah I've noticed the mobile site is very different. Not going to have chance to go on the full site until friday though, to see whether that's changed too.
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