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75827 - Ghostbusters HQ (Coming In January 2016?)

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  • YodaliciousYodalicious Member Posts: 1,366
    Now that I've seen it, I stick with my initial statement that I won't be buying it. Don't get me wrong, it looks good, very good in fact, but not at $350. Just my opinion. I paid nearly that much for a retired set recently, but I had such a high want rating for it that it was worth it for me. This just doesn't do the same.

    Of course, as someone else said, release a Back to the Future set of this magnitude and I may very well be the first in line.
  • MynattMynatt Member Posts: 631
    The slightly annoying part to me is that to get an unslimed bill murray with a printed arm is through the dimensions pack... *sigh* ... just another purchase. 

    Don't get me wrong, slimed Bill Murray is still great!
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    They nailed Dana Barret and Louis Tully..


  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    legomatt said:
    dougts said:
    Again, we need to see the interior to understand what in the world justifies the $350 price tag. 
    Indeed, because it clearly didn't go on printed signs, we know that much. :oP
    Why the set costs as much as it does is already obvious — the piece count. With over 4600 pieces, a $350 price tag is in fact pretty darn conservative. #76042 SHIELD Helicarrier was the same price for fewer than 3000 pieces. #10188 Death Star set cost $400 for just 3803 pieces, and I'm pretty sure its been that price since it came out seven years ago, so it doesn't even have inflation working in its defense.

    The thing people are questioning is where all those 4600 pieces are. Stickers have nothing to do with that, unless you think LEGO decided to split the stickers across several hundred sticker sheets and count each one as an individual piece.

    A lot of people are comparing the size of the Fire Brigade building with the size of this building and extrapolating the piece count from there. But the two are probably not as comparable as people make them out to be.

    Two of Fire Brigade's walls (the ones that are adjacent to the adjoining buildings) are pretty much entirely featureless. This building has four fully-defined walls. That means SNOT techniques, windows, windowpanes, and lots of other features that inflate the piece count more than a bare, featureless brick wall made of 1x4 and 1x8 bricks would.

    Note also that Fire Brigade has just two floors and neither of them is fully tiled. This set has three floors, and if they are in fact tiled like the floors of the Simpsons House, that would add a LOT to the total piece count.
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  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    edited October 2015
    Adzbadboy said:
    What I don't get is how the LEGO one has 4,634 pieces and this MOC has 2800+ pieces. Both are very close in design and the MOC one has a fully detailed interior.

    http://www.swissgb.ch/lego-ghostbusters-hq-v1/
    no, the moc one that has 2800 pieces has no interior. version 2 has the interior and is 5700 pieces.

    http://www.swissgb.ch/lego-ghostbusters-hq-v2/
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  • playwellplaywell Member Posts: 2,305
    BTW its £275 in the UK
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,703
    cheshirecat said:
    Adzbadboy said:
    What I don't get is how the LEGO one has 4,634 pieces and this MOC has 2800+ pieces. Both are very close in design and the MOC one has a fully detailed interior.

    http://www.swissgb.ch/lego-ghostbusters-hq-v1/
    no, the moc one that has 2800 pieces has no interior. version 2 has the interior and is 5700 pieces.

    http://www.swissgb.ch/lego-ghostbusters-hq-v2/
    Thanks for clearing up the confusion. Though I still wonder how the hell does such a small building need 4,600+ pieces unless it's interior is fully furnished just like the Modulars and the Simpsons D2C sets where the floors will be coved in tiles as one suggested. It doesn't feel like two Modulars.
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    Interesting note that I don't know if anybody's brought up: the LEGO Shop listing identifies it as a LEGO Ideas set. Since Sergio's project was rejected, it's probably safe to say that this is based on Brent Waller's original project.

    Sergio's project was created in March 2014 and reached 10,000 supporters in August. Some people seem to think this seems like it was copied from Sergio's project, but I'm skeptical about that. A set this size would take a long time to develop — probably at least 18 months.
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    edited October 2015
    Aanchir said:
    Interesting note that I don't know if anybody's brought up: the LEGO Shop listing identifies it as a LEGO Ideas set. Since Sergio's project was rejected, it's probably safe to say that this is based on Brent Waller's original project.

    Sergio's project was created in March 2014 and reached 10,000 supporters in August. Some people seem to think this seems like it was copied from Sergio's project, but I'm skeptical about that. A set this size would take a long time to develop — probably at least 18 months.

    Yes, I also noticed the ideas tag earlier.. Very interesting..


  • thedingman5thedingman5 Member Posts: 292
    Crowkillers said:
    Aanchir said:
    Interesting note that I don't know if anybody's brought up: the LEGO Shop listing identifies it as a LEGO Ideas set. Since Sergio's project was rejected, it's probably safe to say that this is based on Brent Waller's original project.

    Sergio's project was created in March 2014 and reached 10,000 supporters in August. Some people seem to think this seems like it was copied from Sergio's project, but I'm skeptical about that. A set this size would take a long time to develop — probably at least 18 months.

    Yes, I also noticed the ideas tag earlier.. Very interesting..


    Also, in the description it refers to the width doubling from 9" to 18" "when opened". As this is a Bessa design, I am guessing it is hinged like Kwik E Mart. 
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  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,543
    edited October 2015
    I was being somewhat facetious with regard cost not going on printed parts. Just my usual joshing, hence the smiley :o)

    But i note people often use piece count as a reason for high prices, but it is something of a fallacy. Whilst true to the extent that lots of pieces = more stuff in the box = high price, it is also true that lots of parts in a set will actually make those parts cheaper to produce... and it's not as if a set is being produced in isolation, or Lego never made any other set before.

    Besides which plastic is relatively cheap. Lots of plastic is cheaper, and a modular components product (as opposed to every item made being a unique thing) used across multiple product lines is cheaper still. Let's face it, of all the toy lines to exist, the LEGO modular system is possibly the most cost-efficient design there is. At this point in Lego's development, they're virtually printing money with every tiny brick.

    (It's actually as likely that lots of different parts creates an additional cost factor in terms of the multiple lines needed to compile a set at production level, and the added time to fill a box taking longer than filling a smaller set. And as we all know, time = money).

    But this is all by the by. Whatever system we choose to adopt as our favoured method to rationalise or possibly fathom Lego's pricing structure and costs, all i'm really interested in (and ostensibly all that matters to us) is whether our individual pockets can cope with it, and do we feel we'd get our money's worth - which is a question only each individual can ever truly answer, but one which i also suspect is closer to the conversation LEGO has when deciding on any new price point.

    It could be as simple a question to them as 'what will they pay...', and on that note, every rationalisation we then formulate after the fact may simply serve as a means for them to confound us all yet further.

    :o)
  • legoleppylegoleppy Member Posts: 76
    What will this do to the Idea's Ecto-1?  It's been out since June 1.  How long do Ideas sets stay in production?  I will only get this if the Ecto-1 stays on the shelves until at least Christmas.
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,543
    edited October 2015
    Judging by the zoomed high res image, it's hinged near both ends of the long side, designed to open out from the middle, like a cupboard - (You can see a slight misalignment where the doors have closed along the roof).

    So 'doubling width' would make sense, as it's approx half the length again when opened up...it's likely just the wall opened out. I suppose they've could make it so a floor folds out with the wall, but i'm not expecting that so much.

    If you zoom right in on the windows, you can see inside a little bit. Where there appears to be what looks like some floor-tiling, a picture on the wall, jar on a shelf etc.

    :o)
    Galactus
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,543
    This is the high-res image link.

    Is that a 'Vigo the Carpathian' painting (sticker) on the wall?

    http://cache.lego.com/r/dynamic/is/image/LEGO/75827?op_sharpen=0&resmode=sharp4&wid=4000&fit=constrain,1&fmt=png-alpha
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  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Good eye!
  • ChubblesChubbles Member Posts: 459
    I guess no taxi
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  • FauchFauch Member Posts: 2,679
    can't spot the hinges, but I'm under the impression there is a row of tiles between the windows of the 2nd and 3rd floor, which makes me think floors could be removable.
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  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    legomatt said:
    This is the high-res image link.

    Is that a 'Vigo the Carpathian' painting (sticker) on the wall?

    http://cache.lego.com/r/dynamic/is/image/LEGO/75827?op_sharpen=0&resmode=sharp4&wid=4000&fit=constrain,1&fmt=png-alpha
    You mean through the top window in the front..?
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,543
    edited October 2015
    ^ Yep. @Fauch i think the hinges will be behind where the red sloped tiles along the roof are. One set on the side, near the front, the other set at the back. That's my guess any way. You need to zoom the high res image to spot the point at which the doors meet along the middle far side... yeah, i also wondered if fllors might be removable, but this might also just be how the model gets built, stage by stage.
    Crowkillers
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,694
    Too bad Janine Melnitz isn't in the set.
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    edited October 2015
    oldtodd33 said:
    Too bad Janine Melnitz isn't in the set.

    She is..


  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,694
    Don't see her in the link.
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    legomatt said:
    ^ Yep. @Fauch i think the hinges will be behind where the red sloped tiles along the roof are. One set on the side, near the front, the other set at the back. That's my guess any way. You need to zoom the high res image to spot the point at which the doors meet along the middle far side... yeah, i also wondered if fllors might be removable, but this might also just be how the model gets built, stage by stage.
    I think that you are right about how it opens..
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,694
    Nope, I can't see it's her without your pic or I need new glasses.
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    oldtodd33 said:
    Don't see her in the link.
    You can click on this link.. It is a super hi-res one that you can magnify.. She is next to the zombie driver on the right.. She is also listed in the set's description..
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,694
    I doesn't quite look like her from the movie. Maybe I'm picturing her with the reddish hair in my mind. 
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  • dragon114dragon114 Member Posts: 642
    i hope this fits on a normal 32x32 baseplate 
  • dougtsdougts Member Posts: 4,110
    dragon114 said:
    i hope this fits on a normal 32x32 baseplate 
    nope.  32x48.  and it comes on a 32x32 and 16x32 
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    edited October 2015
    oldtodd33 said:
    I doesn't quite look like her from the movie. Maybe I'm picturing her with the reddish hair in my mind. 
    Agree. The fig is actually spot on except for the hair. The color is right (at least for the first movie) but it looks too masculine I think. A lot of people probably better remember the bright red hair as well. The rest of the figs are superb though and I'm happy to see Winston get Finn's hair piece. The slicked back hair piece used in the Ecto set made him look like Sammy Davis Jr. 

    I need to see the interior of this one before making my mind up completely, but so far it's a nay on price alone.  I would have been all over a smaller version that was priced in the $200 to $250 range. I loved ghostbusters as a kid growing up, but I don't think I love it $350 worth now. 
    legomatt
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu Member Posts: 2,318
    check the picture that @legomatt posted more closely, there are seams about half way down the red bricks with lots of tiles, someone else want to confirm it's a modular?
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  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,543
    Janine's hair might've worked a bit better using the Nightwing style, from man-bat attack, for the tousled effect... or at a push possibly sabine wren's for a more feminine style (re-coloured obviously, though the parting would be on the wrong side).

    (The image I reposted above is courtesy of 'TAFOL' from the main site's comments section). 

    Yep, I'm doubting myself about the hinges and/or stacking of the build. Is it possible it could both come apart floor by floor and have an opening wall. I know out of the two, i'd prefer an opening wall, as it's infinitely better for accessing play features, taking 'interior' photos, and showing everything off.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    Am I to assume that Ecto-1 will fit through the door?
  • thedingman5thedingman5 Member Posts: 292
    ^ Yes

     http://shop.lego.com/en-US/Firehouse-Headquarters-75827?_requestid=2787093
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  • BoomDiggityBoomDiggity Member Posts: 107
    Little disappointed we didn't get Gozer.  While I appreciate the taxi driver, Gozer would have killed this set!
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,694
    I was thinking this hair. 
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  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    edited October 2015
    oldtodd33 said:
    I was thinking this hair. 
    That would have been perfect for the Ghostbuster's sequel Janine..
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,703
    Aanchir said:
    Interesting note that I don't know if anybody's brought up: the LEGO Shop listing identifies it as a LEGO Ideas set. Since Sergio's project was rejected, it's probably safe to say that this is based on Brent Waller's original project.

    Sergio's project was created in March 2014 and reached 10,000 supporters in August. Some people seem to think this seems like it was copied from Sergio's project, but I'm skeptical about that. A set this size would take a long time to develop — probably at least 18 months.
    Marcos Bessa has clarified that it being listed as a 'LEGO Ideas' is incorrect. Marcos mentions that 'LEGO Ghostbusters' has become it's own theme, just like 'LEGO Minecraft.'
    DedgeckoMattsWhat
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Member Posts: 798
    Then really we should expect a whole line of Ghostbuster sets!  Perhaps we'll get Viggo and Gozer the Destroyer
  • MattsWhatMattsWhat Member Posts: 1,643
    Adzbadboy said:
    Marcos Bessa has clarified that it being listed as a 'LEGO Ideas' is incorrect. Marcos mentions that 'LEGO Ghostbusters' has become it's own theme, just like 'LEGO Minecraft.'
    Thank you for this news. Ideas is the only line I collect on a whether I like it or not basis. This would have been an expensive addition! It's still a maybe, but at least I can choose. Anyone else assuming a spike in ecto 1 price point then? Or has it been available enough that everyone who buys this will already have one. Probably the latter I guess. 
  • leemcgleemcg Member Posts: 607
    New element speculation: look at the 1x1 round tiles - the blue starred one at the corner where the grey one meets. 

    That at looks like an interesting way they are connected - maybe a new brick 1x1 with studs on two adjacent sides?
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,543
    Dedgecko said:
    Then really we should expect a whole line of Ghostbuster sets!  Perhaps we'll get Viggo and Gozer the Destroyer
    We already had Viggo ;o)


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  • bok2bok2 Member Posts: 53
    Apart from the 75 the set number 75827 appears to be quite unique. Does anyone know if the 827 is a reference to anything, just like the 937 in 10937 AAB (also) by Marcos Bessa?
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    I've got the Swiss GB V2 built so no need to buy this. There are some things I like about this version and others I prefer on the MOC. I'll definitely be altering mine a bit with some new ideas (the pink goo for example). Will be interesting to see and compare the internal details too. I will pick up some of the minifigures (which saves me paying for a couple of customs) and perhaps a copy of the stickers. 

    However, glad I'm not going to pay $350 for it - the MOC was expensive but not that much even with sand green and dark orange. Thats the price of a PS4, for a LEGO set. Its getting crazy.
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  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    If you look closely, you can see the crack in the length of the roof level with the left hand side of the skylight, and with the back hinge. Excluding the front, most of the left third of the building hinges out.
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    legoleppy said:
    What will this do to the Idea's Ecto-1?  It's been out since June 1.  How long do Ideas sets stay in production?  I will only get this if the Ecto-1 stays on the shelves until at least Christmas.
    That's June 1 2014. There is no clear rule on how long Ideas sets stay in production - presumably as long as lego thinks they are selling and making money, based on future projections. Ecto-1 has been in and out of stock recently on the various [email protected] It was also widely available in many stores (at least in the UK).

    I'm not sure this set will have any significant effect on the future (reseller) price of Ecto-1. I imagine the price will go up, but it will go up anyway. I imagine most people that like GB already have the car. I cannot really see the house bringing in a new group of people that don't already have the car. Some maybe, but not to any significant extent.
  • scottwb2010scottwb2010 Member Posts: 248
    edited October 2015

    Here is where I think the side opens up (middle circle) and the hinges are on the front of the left side and in the middle of the rear!


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  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    edited October 2015
    ^^^ and ^ Well spotted, that's also a potentially nice solution, the Swiss GB version opens along the entire side but more often than not doesn't quite shut completely due to the length of the side wall. 
    Rsa33
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,703
    I wonder if it will have two technic pins on the rear, allowing Modulars to be attached given the scale and layout is similar to the Modulars footprint.
  • JenniJenni Member Posts: 1,390
    @CCC we just bought the car because we were fairly sure the building was coming. I loved the movie as a kid but I'm just not into vehicles. However the headquarters without the Ecto-1 would seem odd.

    It's backordered on [email protected] here, or was last week, but my local store got some in their delivery this past week.
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