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The point I was making was that if somebody thinks that a re-release devalues their original (I'm not talking about it's value in terms of money), then simply reconsidering what it all means may save them some or all of any distress that they would otherwise feel.
If someone went from having the only copy of a particular set that they knew about, to seeing one in everybody's window, I could understand them not being very happy about it. That's not going to happen.
Well said, plus minifigs represent characters, which presumably change clothes, equipment, makeup, mood, etc. Knowing that re-releases take up the slot of a fresh new set, I could possibly be swayed by a re-release if it were to greatly improves on the original, e.g. if they did Cafe Corner with a grand interior and new facade or something along the lines of it "changing its clothes." It's not the best idea, but it would be better than them releasing an unchanged Cafe Corner over, or (and I shudder in horror), them release Market Street as it was again.
If CC was re-released, you can guarantee there would a new thread on it, probably many. You'd soon realise it was becoming more common just by being a normal member of the forum. You wouldn't be able to not notice it.
This is essentially how I feel about Red Five. A shame that they Re-hashed the UCS X-wing, but it is sufficiently different (not necessarily better) in build and appearance than the original. Thus I felt it still warranted a purchase, however grudgingly I felt that we could have had something different like an AT-AT or A-wing in it's slot instead.
If TLG produced one more, nobody would bat an eyelid although, strictly speaking, any rarity of existing sets would have decreased slightly. What about 100? 1000? The numbers have no meaning because there is no reference. In each case, the rarity might technically decrease, but really all that matters in that regard is whether it's still perceived as being rare at the end of it all.
We were talking about Imperial Flagship. It's a set that rarely gets mentioned. That makes it seem rare. So does the fact that few are for sale. However, that has nothing to do with absolute rarity, as it's just being the number of people who are prepared to sell one.
In the end, it's down to perception, not reality. If the perception doesn't change, or doesn't change much, then neither does the rarity - however many copies of a set are produced. You can control your perception with reasoning.
As for Zurg, you could frequent the fan sites and probably still reasonably come to the conclusion that there's only a small number in the world.
What I'd like to see is a library. A big (corner?) library with a computer room, some of those shelves with a ladder on wheels, a quiet room, and a kids section. Maybe a small cafe. Perhaps an orangutan too....
Seriously though, a library as described ^^^ would be epic.
Please send me a PM if you want to trade straight-up for a Market Street.
What you call perception it's not an abstract idea that comes from nothing, it's only the direct and logical consequence of what reality, numbers, concrete facts say us about something.
Perception cannot even exist without starting from something real.
Numbers, real features define our perception about a set, and changing them it will necessarily affect our perception of them.
Speaking of Lego rarity, you can be sure any set will be affected in its reputation of being a rarity by changing its quantity of production, exactly like for everything else in life. We all here retain 10179 UCS Millennium Falcon a rarity in relation to 10188 Death Star, of course both beautiful sets, but where does this simple perception, consideration come, if not from the simple fact that between them there is a so big difference in terms of years of production, and so, copies outside there?
Of course numbers have meaning, it has less copies so it is more rare, it's a fact before of a perception.
So it is for now, but if Lego decided, for some reason, to bring back to production a perfect 10179 clone for about five years also our impression of it, and of its rarity, would be affected, inevitably.
It is not clear what you mean, but saying that it can't (I suppose you wanted to write so, in other way it would not make sense) be possible to control our perception with reasoning it's correct only in a perspective where affection to our beliefs and self-referential behaviours have the upper hand over common sense. Some people need an incontrovertible, dogmatic and superior tag to define everything in life, it is their only way to live; some others wouldn't trust in such tags even if they were clearly of divine nature: both will never be convinced of anything unless they want to beleive in it. But for the most of us with a simple way of being, and not too jealous of our beliefs, I think it's not wrong to say that a new perception can modify a previous one, cause if we recognize that some things affected us in a way, it means we can also easily recognize that some others will affect us in a different way.
Perception about things change, if those things change.
I meant what I said - perception can be changed with reasoning.
If a set is rare, and then the numbers are suddenly doubled, it can still be rare. Strictly speaking, it's only half as rare; in practice it may not make the slightest difference. Most people have never seen a Mr Gold. If there were twice as many, they probably still wouldn't see one. If somebody realises that then they can use it as a logical argument to influence how they interpret the release of those extra copies.
'Rare' in terms of valuable, is completely dependent on market forces and availability. There are some sets that are widely available, but the cost is dictated by the market. I'm sure there are thousands of Queen Anne's Revenge available in excess of the Mars Explorer. More are interested in the QAR - thus the disproportionate relative value.
If we had 'sales' figures of the Bat-Pod, I'm sure there is a price point where there would be a glut available. Nobody knows what that price is, so you will have outliers that go well above 'market' value, and some that unload for less.
My take on perception - Beanie Babies. Driven completely on speculation and the perception of value.
Mr Gold is an extreme example in terms of rarity, but it doesn't make exception too.
Saying that doubling its number would not affect too much (or affect too little) its status of rarity it's true not because numbers have no meaning, as you said, but only cause those numbers are not sufficient yet to change its status, and our perception of it. In this case surely we would need great numbers to make of Mr Gold a Mr Coal, but also here it's only a question of numbers. Doubling it will not be so much yet, okay, but try to double, and double, and double more and soon you'll realize that the difference in terms of availability between it and others collectible minifigures will exist no more, saying bye bye to its exclusivity status. What's the key factor again ? Numbers.
I think the value of the S10 Mr. Gold - the genuine ones with the product code, etc. would continue to stay on its own value trajectory.
The same rationale applies to the Bat-Pod. As was pointed out in the Bat-Pod thread, you're paying ridiculous prices for a box and an insert.
If there were twice the number of Mr Golds, most people wouldn't notice the difference. That's a massive change, and the result would still not be visible. So much for not being able to see it. Somebody might announce that there are twice as many, but in a practical sense, they'd be just as rare. And it would just be hearsay anyway.
The original comment was about Imperial Flagship. How many people have seen one of those recently? I haven't - and I've got one! Are there more Imperial Flagships that Mr Golds? I imagine so, but I have no way of knowing. Neither do most other people.
In a sense, all EOLed sets are rare, simply because you can no longer walk into any toy shop and see stacks of them. Technically, some sets are rarer than other, but once EOLed, very few are in free circulation and the number produced is largely irrelevant.
Indeed the actual number produced has no direct bearing on subsequent rarity - even technically. Mixels seem to be everywhere but large numbers of them are purchased just for the parts - the Mixel itself no longer exists. If TLG had only produced half the number of "window-lickers" because of the controversy surrounding it, it doesn't necessarily follow that the set would be any rarer than the rest in a couple of years time.
Whilst there are only supposed to be 5000 Mr Golds, that's something else I don't actually know. Some sites quote it at 10000. What did I say about rarity and doubling?
The IF was available through the S@H and Retail Stores for a few years. I would expect their sales numbers to rival the early modulars and TLG exclusives.
I wouldn't expect anything exceptional - good or bad.
Spot on, madforLEGO. With few exceptions, Lego mass-produces their sets and the parts therein. It's not financially feasible for them to limit production of sets or parts because molds cost money and they want to the most out of them. Additionally, if they can sell 250,000 of a set they're going to do it. They're not interested in selling only 10,000 just to satisfy someone's desire to make it "rare". Anything with limited production is probably still fairly large in terms of quantity except those few cases where they've specified small numbers, eg. the gold collectible mini-figure.
The facades so. 2 levels, basically. Ground floor: a beautiful entry into 8L, glazed with beautiful ornaments above (angel wings, micro fig, Wolverine claws).Shop windows left and right of the entrance. The posts are covered with gray bars to give a cut stone effect. Lamps on the wall, flowers outside the windows. A tree not too ridiculous on the sidewalk. The other side (90 of the first), there are 2 windows (4L + 3 pillars each 2L or 14L), and the rest of the length is used for laundry . A bench and a street light on that part of the sidewalk. The upper level: the great columns (2x2 ribbed round), large glass sand green, rounded been rounded up with new window 4L (need ref). And all the cornice on top, very detailed. I will not list you the parts used for the details (coughed lazy), but it's pretty. On the roof, a "porch" so the Green Grocer bow window that can see inside the bank. An office is pretty standard (lamp, typewriter), the director is much more refined (table, dark green walls, beautiful office). In the same style as the Detective Office billiard room say, but it's a desktop. Note: the use of shields Nexo Knights to make more detailed tiles (peaks at 45 °).
http://www.techlug.fr/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=10238
I think many folks had been guessing back for a few mods now to see a bank. Though if only two levels a bit disappointing. Is it a corner style building?
(My guess it is safe until 2017.)
A two story bank ought to have some very interesting interior details. Perhaps a vault of cookies?
Learn how to begin answering someone without being so unkind.
I've already answered you about Mr Gold trying to move reasoning to a step forward, don't bring it back to the previous step repeating and repeating the same formula.
Mr Gold was specifically created for being top rarity, and perceiving this it's not a result of an abstract idea, but only the obvious consequence of it being produced in a very small quantity. It reflects a specific will, expressed in a specific way. They wanted it that way, they produced it that way. Saying perception about rarity of a product is not affected by its quantity of production it's completely paradoxal. Doubling the amount of a very rare set like that doesn't change so much its status not because modifying its numbers it has no meaning, but only cause those numbers are insufficient to change it consistently in those terms. It's not a question of modus operandi, of principle, but only a question of measure, of quantity.
If they wanted Mr Gold as common as all the others they would have producted as much as all the others, it's all a question of quantity, of numbers, as you can see.
As for IF, I think you'll find that its availability was more limited than you might think. (And no, that doesn't mean there are more Mr Golds.) It was probably one of the last sets where "Hard to find", meant what it said. That, of course, varies from country to country - YMMV.
It's only two stories, but it has more pieces than any other such modular. However, you look at it, that suggests quite a bit of detail.
(The GBHQ aside...)