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Btw, I'd sell it and buy multiple other exceptional sets.
http://brickset.com/sets/theme-Advanced-Models/subtheme-Modular-Buildings
I'm giddy!
Those rainbow Market Square modulars just confirm that it muy-muy suckalot.
But where are the rainbow Space Skulls?
The only thing that might change is that you change your own mind. Or you may believe your case is even stronger. People have been arguing about this for eight years. There are eight years worth of newsgroup (which were still very much alive at the time) and discussion board posts for you to read, which go over the same arguments, from both sides, again and again and again and again. Keep reading, though, because occasionally somebody comes up with something new. But then you have to ask which is more valid - those new arguments or what was said at the time.
You might also like to read various interviews with Erik Brok.
As for the insanity about adding interior items to a Cafe Corner re-release would bring up the cost of the re-release more than inflation (we're talking market forces here, the aftermarket is part of the inflation equation), well the original goes for approximately US$650-700 on eBay. Seriously, who taught you math, cause none of the modulars at retail have costed that much. At most, a Cafe Corner re-release with interior might be as much as Pet Shop, maybe a little bit more.
Lastly, those wanting TLG to re-release sets may be seen as somewhat self-entitled, but it's no more or less than those demanding that TLG never re-release or rehash of those same sets.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
actually, yes it is
being honest here
note that if LEGO were to release BOTH a new modular and a re-release, then i would of course have no major issue with that and my position stated here becomes moot.
i was in my dark ages for 20 years. i missed out on the chance to buy thousands of different set, including the first 2.5 (MS) modulars. so what? LEGO puts out 600+ new sets per year, so there is plenty to look forward to. no one can own everything, so just look forward to cool new stuff on the horizon and stop lamenting the ones that got away.
Take things like the lego staff "business card" minifigures. Imagine if they started selling them at £2.49 each like CMFs. What was once something special, obtained only by a few, soon becomes nothing special.
I'm right in thinking that there isn't even a rumour of a re-release modular being in the works though right?
Did someone mention gun control?
People like yourself (whom I wouldn't label self-entitled), aren't who I was referring to, realistically, those I have mentioned above, are far more self-entitled, they are all about their profit margins, what anyone else wants be damned. So, averaging it out, people like yourself on the other end of that scale, both sides of the argument are effectively on par in terms of self-entitlement...
so the collectors already owning the set and the new crowd both are happy
I would, however, be concerned if they produced a new modular that is very similar to an existing one - as with the Toy Shop (fortunately, I don't collect Winter Village). I wouldn't want two similar buildings.
Currently I collect modulars - each year I make a point of buying each one, but I've only made some of them so far. If the series was broken by something I didn't want to buy - like a similar building - I wouldn't collect them any more, automatically buying them as they were released; I would simply buy what particularly interested me as I do with most other themes.
I used that dreaded word "identical". #8041 and #42041 are probably the nearest we've come to that in recent times. There are 16 parts where a newer moulding has been used, which I wouldn't consider a difference. The three crankshaft centres, have changed colour. Strictly speaking, they are not identical, but it is such a trivial change that I'd ignore it. The two space shuttles, however, are definitely not identical. Clearly, that is subjective; where other people draw the line is up to them.
An interesting quirk...
If Market Street was re-released but as a Creator Expert set and the next modular, completionists who haven't regarded it as a modular it would buy it. However, those who already regard it as a modular, and have it, would have a bit of a dilemma - particularly if it was slightly different. Would they consider that they already have it (which, strictly speaking, they don't), or would they buy it and have two similar buildings?
There have been suggestions that the Toy Shop was re-released either because they ran out of ideas or ran out of time. If that happened with the modulars, Market Street might be the obvious candidate to fill the gap.
after all the market street can be considered some pre-cursor of LEGO ideas
I never considered the MS part of the Modular theme a few years ago, so I sold it. Why did I buy it? Because I bought most everything that came out back then. Many of us have bought sets they regret buying. When DA came out, I found out that MS was indeed part of the Modular line and that is the reason why I regret selling it because I am a completionist. With that said I would be pissed if the re released the Market Street, if in fact, it takes a spot of a new Modular.
Yes, you're one Mod short now you've sold it. Plank!
Either way, original MS owners should be praying for a rerelease. Then it would prove categorically it was a modular and your original would sky rocket in price as collectors tried to complete their sets having ignored it until now.
and by the way, LEGO will never ever release the MS because it is ugly (and by another way will never be a modular)^^
Nothing proves anything, that's the whole problem with any of the "evidence". To some people it tells them they're right; to others, it's an irrelevance.
All that a re-branded re-release would prove is that the new version is part of the series; it would say nothing about the old one. Anyone who currently believes the old one is not part of the series would probably continue to do so and just buy the new one.
Personally, I don't really understand why some people need to collect every minor variation. Sure, it means you can tick off a list of all of them as compiled by bricklink. But to me the minor variations don't matter.
I am LOTR and Hobbit complete (sets and minifigs) up to the release of Dimensions. However, I'm not going to buy dimensions sets for the minifigs. I cannot see the point in it. If they made something new, then I'd buy it. But not the same old minifigs with printing on one side of the head only, or minor torso change. I don't really see the point of the update to the design when they are so minor. As it is, I don't display every version of Gandalf the Grey for example, just one. What's the point of displaying one with a cloak and one without, for example. Having another one means nothing to me. Having one with a slightly different face print, when most of it is covered up anyway is nothing. I won't be able to tick dim001 of the list of LOTR characters I own, but it's not a big deal.
It's not much different from collecting stamps, believe me. But I'm still under the impression that the majority of folks gathered here are not the classical collectors but rather inspired by the ingenious toys you get by putting together - bricks!
I don't think it is WAY off; some people want the next Modular to be a re release of MS.
TLG have a finite capacity for designing new sets, a process that takes a long time. If they find themselves with spare production capacity, they are not going to let the machines stand idle. If they produce more of an existing set, you wouldn't even notice; if it's an earlier set for which they think there might still be some demand, then you complain about it. There's actually no difference.
Maybe that doesn't seem ideal - and they might even agree, but it presumably works for them.
If TLG re-released this (or other set with similar qualities), I feel like it would destroy the value in terms of rarity, and a bit in the desirability (people desire things more if they can't get them easily for some reason). Of course re-sale value would also go down, but that would be because of rarity and desirability.
I'm sure people will still argue that I am still hung up on re-sale value and maybe they're right. But I feel like it's the underlying reasons why I value it such and re-sale value is only an indicator that others value it similarly.
Is rarity actually what you value or is it the coolness?
Lets just put aside the fact that many older sets had parts that are no longer available to use to make a brick for brick copy of the set (like the hoses and doors for MS and CC and also I believe those 2x4x2 Dark red windows to name two examples in the CC) so that would likely make those sets a bit more expensive, OR not be made 'identical' in which case if there are glaring omissions due to lack of that original part, is it really that set (at least Toy shop looks near identical to the original)?
People are also assuming these more expensive remade sets (by virtue of inflation, these sets were last sold about 7 years ago after all) will sell like hotcakes. The problem is this. Does LEGO want to invest heavily in a remake of a set from 7-8 years ago and HOPE it sells as well as a new mod?
Sure they remade Toy shop, but that is a set that is fairly low risk compared to a mod. It is a seasonal set, where you have many folks that want them under a Christmas tree or mantle. Not sure many can say that about a Mod. The set is under 100 USD, which I think makes it something that folks would buy as a decoration. Can you say a Mod, at 159.99 is really the same?
Finally, as others have noted these sets are outdated. I think those not around when these sets were out do not realize that they did not sell well. Especially Market street, and if it did not sell well at 90 USD, what makes you think it would sell well at 129.99 USD (or higher) because I seriously doubt it would be only 90 USD today. Cafe Corner was constantly on sale as well. Now could Cafe Corner, now likely a 159.99 USD set still sell well? Maybe and maybe not, and I think LEGO would be more concerned with the maybe not and either sitting on extra sets forever or having to find a way to discount them when the US has a ban on exclusives being discounted.
@CCC, the more I'm reading here the more am I inclined to agree with you on this one...
As for my bias, views & insecurities? Bias, not really, I was referring to a particularly vocal sub-group of those against re-releases & I dealt with my insecurities a good ten years ago, but they do say most people see in others what they most dislike about themselves (even when its not there in who they're looking at)...
If they re-released a set then, yes, you would be able to see the rarity change. There would probably be more people saying they own it, both in forums and on collection sites (like the Brickset tally of how many people own a specific set). If they re-release Cafe Corner exactly with the same set number, then the number owned on Brickset suddenly jumps from 4329 to 10000+. Both the rarity goes and the coolness of being in the smaller club goes. If there are suddenly more around, you will see more listed for sale on bricklink and ebay. You will see more brags about being able to get hold of one, for considerably less than others paid a year before. So yes, I reckon you would see a substantial difference in rarity.
You would also see a substantial difference in sales prices too, the old versions significantly dropping from their peak price as people try to quick flip new ones, although this would depend how many lego were pushing out at once and whether they go OOS, with a ripple effect in price as they go out of stock. Plus you would probably see a knock-on effect of the secondary market prices of all modulars falling. If they re-release CC, then chances are they will re-release others, sending panic through resellers (and possible also collectors) to try to shift existing stock before further re-releases are announced. Collectors may well sell, hoping to buy back in anticipation of a re-release.