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First image of LEGO Seasonal Holiday Train (40138) spotted in LEGO Store Calendar October 2015

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  • TheUltimateTFOLTheUltimateTFOL Member Posts: 152
    edited August 2015
    Wow, this turned into a full-scale argument quickly. How about we acknowledge that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion? I agree with both sides; Lego has disappointed us this holiday season but I think that this is okay since we've been getting great holiday sets all year so far. I don't think the designers have much of a choice with these kinds of things and obviously Lego is working on a lot of ideas right now so one little thing like this can be forgiven. Obviously, if the holiday sets are as bad as some think, Lego will lose money on them and learn their lesson. If not, well, then this kind of holiday set(s) obviously is popular. I personally hope they do remakes of the WV bakery, post office, and cottage, since I missed out on those and they are unreasonably expensive on Amazon/eBay. Anyways, sorry to be mini-modding, but let's steer the conversation back to the topic, which is what people think of this promotional, not whether or not Lego has ruined this holiday season.
    hkcrazy88
  • Gooker1Gooker1 Member Posts: 599
    Anyways, sorry to be mini-modding, but let's steer the conversation back to the topic, which is what people think of this promotional, not whether or not Lego has ruined this holiday season.
    I think this set is freebie is subpar which Lego has now ruined the holiday season. :)

    It's an overall "meh" for me.  I really enjoyed the inclusion of minifigs the past 4 years. :/  

    This does look like a set that was made from like two separate poly bags or something.

    I would be curious to see if there will be a second set to go w/ this.  
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037


    Aanchir said:
    You are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean your opinion is not superficial and selfish, or that the way you phrase it (like calling any designs you don't like "phoned-in" regardless of their complexity or uniqueness) is not insulting. Insults to designers, especially those that imply they don't care about or put effort into their designs, have long been a pet peeve of mine and apparently a habit of yours.

    You have every right to dislike certain sets; just try a little harder not to be a jerk about it and act as if anything you don't like means LEGO isn't trying. Sometimes LEGO has to make decisions on behalf of people other than you. Re-releasing a widely beloved set that many fans missed out on seems like one of those kinds of decisions. So is making their holiday gift set a charming mini-model instead of a minifig-scale seasonal vignette exactly like the ones they've been releasing all year.

    In fact, if you weren't so committed to the narrative that LEGO cares less and less each year, instead of seeing it as "LEGO is cheating us out of the minifig-scale vignettes we've loved getting each year", you could easily see it as "LEGO knows how much we love minifig-scale vignettes, so this year they're doing them as regular $10 seasonal sets year-round instead of super-limited 'gifts' you have to pay huge sums of money on specific dates to get."

    And no, I'm not just looking for an excuse to jump on your comments. It didn't even register with me that so many of the posts like that I read here are even by the same person, though it makes sense hearing it now. To be honest, it's a relief to realize that so much of the negativity I encounter on the Brickset forums is actually just the work of one person!

    You make some good points; I could be less critical. I also think you knew very well who you were responding to.
    I am also not the only one that has been less than positive toward recent LEGO decisions. However, I do not see you quoting and responding to anyone else's negative comments in the forum as being as' petty, shameful, and disgrace to the AFOL community'. So I presume that ire, and personal attack, is aimed at me. That also appears to be some nasty comments from someone that ironically is trying to get me and others to look at what LEGO is doing in a more positive light instead of what else it could appear as.

    Finally, I can agree to disagree here, as it is what it is, and let things lay. Different people see things differently. However, when someone starts saying I or others comments are 'petty, shameful, and disgrace to the AFOL community', I take exception to that. Who are you to question someone else's value to a discussion, their opinion or how they voice it?
    Mean spirited is mean spirited even if trying to 'right a wrong' that you see.
    If you think I'm wrong, then fine I can live with that, tell me I'm wrong, tell me you think I'm totally off base and why I am, fine. However, I think the general implication that I must be a disgrace to a community because you do not like my comment is flat out wrong and irresponsible.

    Very well, you're probably right that I was out of line saying your comments were a disgrace to the community. I apologize for that.

    I reiterate, I did not recognize you as the person who made so many other comments along those lines, but comments about sets seeming "phoned in" or otherwise implying that the designers weren't even trying are a pet peeve of mine. It is those kinds of comments that invoke my ire, not the identity of the person making them.

    It's true that a lot of other people were also complaining about this set; it's true. But the reason I didn't get so angry with their comments is that they didn't phrase them in a way that implied LEGO didn't care or wasn't trying. That's also why I didn't get angry at your first post in this thread expressing your disappointment.

    This isn't the first time somebody has mistakenly assumed I had a grudge against them because I happened to disagree with so many of their posts, so perhaps it's a sign I should be more mindful about WHO I'm responding to instead of just WHAT they're saying in that particular thread.

    Thank you for calling it to my attention so that I sort of have a better idea of who you are and what perspective you're coming from instead of just thinking of you as a name I'm used to seeing around the Brickset forums.
    pharmjodTheLoneTensor
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,787
    edited August 2015
    Well I likely could have handled things better than I had. But I think it is far better to understand where each of us is coming from than it escalating to something really silly for what is a discussion about this train gift.

    tamamahmTheLoneTensorpharmjod
  • NickF22NickF22 Member Posts: 488
    Big clap from me for both of you being big enough to admit some wrongdoing and move on. Thank you, it's what makes this forum so much better than places like Facebook.
    tamamahmhkcrazy88Jern92
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    I like the set.  It reminds me of the Emerald Express.  Of course, it is missing something not having a minifig.

    I've always held out hope that Lego would do a Rankin-Bass partnership so I can get my Heat Miser and Snow Miser minifigs.
    SumoLegojuggles7
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    Promotional items are supposed to lure you in to get you to buy.

    I don't like sets like this as promotional items because I feel like it's something I could make myself whereas, for me, something with a minifigure is more enticing. I couldn't have made an official LEGO Incredible Hulk polybag, so I spent the money on an order from LEGO so I could get one.

    They could have used exclusive tile pieces or something along those lines to make the train more of a unique collectible. 

    Looking at the other half of that image, even if I were as big of a SW fan today as I was when I was a kid, I don't think LEGO could ever entice me  with a free poster.

    As an aside: I was going to say that LEGO has never done anything that I've found incredibly upsetting but then I remembered how incredibly  angry I got when they ruined CMF collecting for me with Mr. Gold. 

      
    SumoLego
  • Milne44Milne44 Member Posts: 112
    Does anyone know if they're doing double VIP points all October or two weeks in October, think they did last year
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,624
    ^only 1-4th of October
  • Milne44Milne44 Member Posts: 112
    edited September 2015
     that's different from last, not good was definitely longer then a week last year:(
  • Sethro3Sethro3 Member Posts: 995
    Not to be "that" guy, but 1-4 isn't a week either...definitely too bad considering not everyone can order the first part of October. Maybe their sale numbers declined throughout the month, so they scaled it back to see how it does. I'm sure they'd rather you buy full price items WITHOUT VIP points, so what's it to them. Only us fans that have been on the forums and are familiar with the trends will be disappointed.

    As far as the "freebie," it is a nice looking set. But it isn't free. It's a gift with purchase, but you certainly have to spend to get it for free. Too bad they also didn't offer it for sale by itself. I don't think there is $100 worth to get this, but I could see buying it by itself. I would normally (like many others here) order the Winter Village set to help get past that threshold, but that is a no go this year.

    As far as I can tell, one of the Winter promo sets from last year was grossly overproduced, at least according to the many LUGs that have received boxes upon boxes of them to do whatever with. So maybe it is another sign that WV wasn't selling as well as they expected and thusly are changing their output?? I don't know.
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 Member Posts: 1,828
    Looks like I might have to buy my non exclusive sets from Amazon now if double points are only for four days. I usually wait for double points to buy from LEGO, but as I won't be getting a pay check in October till the 14th it looks like LEGO just lost some of my money. Don't know what is happening over at LEGO, but I don't like it.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Sethro3 said:
    As far as the "freebie," it is a nice looking set. But it isn't free. It's a gift with purchase, but you certainly have to spend to get it for free. Too bad they also didn't offer it for sale by itself. I don't think there is $100 worth to get this, but I could see buying it by itself. I would normally (like many others here) order the Winter Village set to help get past that threshold, but that is a no go this year.
    Yes, I agree with the concept of "free" being ambiguous.  Let's say you buy the Ferrari.  You don't really buy the Ferrari for $100 and get this free, as much as you pay $100 and get both the Ferrari and this.

    I'm guessing this thing is going to be about 175 pieces, in a non-tiny box, and that it'll go for $20 without breaking a sweat.  So, if you want to look at it that way, still with 1x (5%) VIP rewards, you're getting (roughly) 25% off a $100 [email protected] set (even an exclusive like the Ferrari) shipped free.  That's not bad.
    ARo2891
  • GalactusGalactus Member Posts: 260
    ^ Actually, everyone who buys something from LEGO contributes a little to these 'free' items. The reward goes back to the customers who buy enough in one go; in this case $ 100.
  • promobrickspromobricks Member Posts: 8


    Finally I got the high-res images from LEGO Seasonal Christmas Train (40138), the first of two Exclusives this year. Available in US from 99 US-Dollar purchase, in Europe from 55 Euro. There are 233 pieces in total.

    Source: http://www.promobricks.de/lego-seasonal-christmas-train-40138-das-erste-exklusiv-set-im-detail/9003 (with more images)

    Johnnyfinlandiaalexwil
  • TheUltimateTFOLTheUltimateTFOL Member Posts: 152
    Y'know, 233 pieces for a "free" set is quite good. That's about $20-25 if it was an actual set. It's a shame that I'm not going to have over $100 of Lego money until around January.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Them's a lot of small pieces.
    madforLEGObinaryeyekiki180703pharmjodJern92SumoLego
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    I think it is a nice little model. It is a shame they couldn't have squeezed in a minifig to give it a little more appeal though. If they had added a minifig I think they could have left off the entire last car. It would have been great if they had made the cab slightly higher and put a re-coloured christmas gingerbread man driving it. Something for the builders, something for the minifig collectors.

    I don't think I'll be buying £50 worth (if that is what it will be in the UK) just for the "free" set (although I might change my mind) as I'll probably just build it from existing parts. And add a normal gingerbread man minifig.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    I have a tough time getting past what Lego considers to be a candy cane, and they use them everywhere on winter sets nowadays.
    binaryeyekiki180703
  • TheUltimateTFOLTheUltimateTFOL Member Posts: 152
    That's a candy cane? I thought it was a multicolored stocking. At least its got some colorful pieces.
  • Rsa33Rsa33 Member Posts: 156
    This thread was comedy gold ;)

    So if double points are only available from oct 1-4, and this nice little set is only available to obtain via promotion from oct 13th and onwards, what to do?  

    Double down in oct *ouch* vs pay market price (ie eBay) vs bricklinking it (provided no rare pieces)?

    Advice appreciated as I don't collect winter village, but this is a nice little set & I must have it :)
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    BL will probably be cheaper, especially if you already have a decent collection of parts.
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    Rsa33 said:
    This thread was comedy gold ;)

    So if double points are only available from oct 1-4, and this nice little set is only available to obtain via promotion from oct 13th and onwards, what to do?  

    Double down in oct *ouch* vs pay market price (ie eBay) vs bricklinking it (provided no rare pieces)?

    Advice appreciated as I don't collect winter village, but this is a nice little set & I must have it :)
    The double points period in the US has been extended and is now from October 1–14. At least, that's what I heard from a LEGO store employee when I was there earlier this month.
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    If I somehow acquired this train I myself would probably view it more as a collectible and not open it because the packaging is what makes it unique due to that "Limited Edition 2015" seal in the corner.

    Otherwise it would probably just end up scattered throughout the rest of my collection.
    Rsa33 said:
    This thread was comedy gold ;)


    What exactly about this thread was comedy gold? I read through the whole thing again and It doesn't seem like anyone was trying to say something funny throughout the whole thing.

    Unless you find people arguing to be funny?
     

     
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    People arguing is the basis for much comedy.  People's misery is also a pretty good basis for comedy.
     
    But why don't they call it 'roundtine'?
    Rsa33
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    I keep seeing a lot of "I heard" regarding the promo extension.  Does anyone have proof of any kind?
    SumoLego
  • Rsa33Rsa33 Member Posts: 156
    edited September 2015
    @sumolego, i couldn't have said it any better.

    @aanchir, thanx.  If true, that the double points are extended, then that would be legit.
    SumoLego
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    I keep seeing a lot of "I heard" regarding the promo extension.  Does anyone have proof of any kind?
    Nope, sorry. All I have is what I heard from the store manager at the LEGO store in Woodbridge, VA.
  • herbyderbyherbyderby Member Posts: 78
    I keep seeing a lot of "I heard" regarding the promo extension.  Does anyone have proof of any kind?
    http://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-october-2015-double-vip-points-extended/
    AanchirRsa33kiki180703TheLoneTensormadforLEGO
  • ArmyofdarknessawArmyofdarknessaw Member Posts: 22
    I'm actually really looking forward to getting this. I have around $100 worth of Lego i want to pick up anyway so I'm just waiting until mid October to get this too. I think it looks pretty great.
  • ArmyofdarknessawArmyofdarknessaw Member Posts: 22
    I am relatively new to Lego and i haven't ordered from [email protected] yet. To get this from the website do i just buy $100 worth and they automatically add it to my box or is it one of those things i need to add it to my cart also to get it? I've delt with both of those ways for websites and i don't want to order and get mu box without this. Thanks for any help.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited September 2015
    It should appear in the cart automatically when you hit the threshold (unless they run out).  Don't commit to the order until you confirm it's in the cart.  Worst case, order it by phone with a human to make sure.
  • ArmyofdarknessawArmyofdarknessaw Member Posts: 22
    Thank you. I didn't even know i could order by phone. I may go that route like i do ordering from other sites.
  • canon03canon03 Member Posts: 364
    I keep seeing a lot of "I heard" regarding the promo extension.  Does anyone have proof of any kind?
    http://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-october-2015-double-vip-points-extended/

    So the "double dip" of double vip & the first Christmas promo set will be available Oct 13th -14th?  I hope the official language on [email protected] tomorrow reflects the extended vip dates.
  • Coolguy5000Coolguy5000 Member Posts: 1,585
    Maybe  it was already  mentioned  but do  we have  confirmed  dates for Europe  for this and  double  points? 
  • bandit778bandit778 Member Posts: 2,379
    I have not read any news on the train in the UK but the double VIP points are stated in the October flyer as being from the 14th to the 31st Oct.
  • Coolguy5000Coolguy5000 Member Posts: 1,585
    bandit778 said:
    I have not read any news on the train in the UK but the double VIP points are stated in the October flyer as being from the 14th to the 31st Oct.
    Thanks. Probably  the same  for  Ireland  then.
  • 3stackshs3stackshs Member Posts: 299
    [email protected] US is showing 1-14th for VIP so it looks like we can get the train with dbl points too
  • brumeybrumey Member Posts: 1,002
    i m broke til 11th of october ...  

    will i get this? YES!
    will it stay MISB because of that awesome "limited edition" sticker? YES!!!
    SumoLego
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,787
    #40123 Thanksgiving feast is now available to buy at [email protected] US as well. Not sure if it will last when the holiday set becomes available though
  • ArmyofdarknessawArmyofdarknessaw Member Posts: 22
    Made my order this morning. Kind of excited for this. I like trains and i love Christmas. Looking forward to it coming in.
  • crazycarlcrazycarl Member Posts: 392
    Just came home with a Pet Shop and Thanksgiving Feast set and got free train and double VIP points.
  • Russell844Russell844 Member Posts: 2,417
    FYI the Friends Pop Star polybag promo is still going online too.
  • 77ncaachamps77ncaachamps Member Posts: 2,442
    Double VIP extended to 31st. Doesn't mean the Train will be around. Just means you can get the train now over a few weeks rather than one day.


  • Bosstone100Bosstone100 Member Posts: 1,431
    I thought the train was supposed to be available from Oct 13-Nov 13.
    SumoLego
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    It is supposed to be available through November 13th.
  • herekittykittyherekittykitty Member Posts: 122
    I thought the train was supposed to be available from Oct 13-Nov 13.
    While supplies last though. That doesn't mean it will last until November 13.
  • chibhawkchibhawk Member Posts: 17
    I purchased #10247 this morning at US [email protected] and unfortunately it's backordered. The cart automatically adds #40138 but applied it at $9.99. I didn't notice this until after I placed it (early morning buying without coffee).
    Now looking at my order history it has three items listed: the ferris wheel, and two trains - one for $0.00 and one for $9.99.
    Has anyone experienced anything similar in the past? I know there is the note stating they're experiencing technical difficulties and promotions will be applied after they process the transaction. However it seems like the promotion has been applied, but at a cost?
    Thoughts?
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,787
    chibhawk said:
    I purchased #10247 this morning at US [email protected] and unfortunately it's backordered. The cart automatically adds #40138 but applied it at $9.99. I didn't notice this until after I placed it (early morning buying without coffee).
    Now looking at my order history it has three items listed: the ferris wheel, and two trains - one for $0.00 and one for $9.99.
    Has anyone experienced anything similar in the past? I know there is the note stating they're experiencing technical difficulties and promotions will be applied after they process the transaction. However it seems like the promotion has been applied, but at a cost?
    Thoughts?
    LEGO has had issue like this before. I would say when it doubt contact LEGO CS. If you are getting 2 trains, one for free and one for 10 USD I would say that still is a good deal as they are likely worth 10-15 USD per set at least.
  • Coolguy5000Coolguy5000 Member Posts: 1,585
    chibhawk said:
    I purchased #10247 this morning at US [email protected] and unfortunately it's backordered. The cart automatically adds #40138 but applied it at $9.99. I didn't notice this until after I placed it (early morning buying without coffee).
    Now looking at my order history it has three items listed: the ferris wheel, and two trains - one for $0.00 and one for $9.99.
    Has anyone experienced anything similar in the past? I know there is the note stating they're experiencing technical difficulties and promotions will be applied after they process the transaction. However it seems like the promotion has been applied, but at a cost?
    Thoughts?
    This happened  to me with  the flower cart - twice!
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