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Need assistance with learning more about an old set

Thimio777Thimio777 Member Posts: 5
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Hi everyone,

I've scoured the web for more information on this set but outside of finding out that it is rare and is called set 750 that was available in Canada, I could not find out any more information. Could someone point me in the right direction?


Best regards,

James

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  • SupersympaSupersympa Member Posts: 534
    this is a job for Gary ;)
    @istokg
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited June 2015
    @Thimio777 (thanks for the heads up also @Supersympa ) give me a little bit of time to get my notes/images together (I had a nasty virus on my computer operating system)... and I have to find it on my flash drive backup.... but images like these really make my day!!  :)

    This is one of only 3 LEGO sets "left in the wild"... that I have been looking for (along with a  Norway and Norway/Sweden set)... in order to complete the "LEGO Genome" of all old LEGO sets ever produced.

    But for a quick comment... this was an Educational Set based on a grade school primer (book) and was produced in Stratford Ontario from circa 1963-66, for the USA/Canada Samsonite LEGO market.  It sold for $50 in the USA (a lot of money back then), and likely $55 CAN in Canada.

    And you will be happy to know that this set is NOT in the Billund Vault, that Danish repository of all LEGO sets ever produced.....   stay tuned!!   :)
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    I became aware of that set from a Canadian leaflet.....


    At that time, I did not know the set number, but was excited to see a Samsonite wooden box set.  Here is a closeup of the box....





  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited June 2015
    Until now I had never seen a photograph of that 750 Educational Set, only these images fom a Canadian brochure.  In fact I wasn't even aware of the set number or that it was an educational set until I came across this late 1965 USA Samsonite LEGO Retailer Reorder Form, which mentions it in the 1st column.... for $50 US.



    This also told me that it was available in the USA as well as offering the price and set number.  I know this is the smaller ($50) Educational set, because I have a USA friend who owns the larger 7100 set (listed 2 lines below it)... and all the info and details about the 7100 set.... an amazing 3235 piece LEGO set, which happens to be the largest LEGO box of all time (wooden or otherwise)....


  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    @Thimio777 Please emali me at [email protected] about additional images, or post here.  I'm curious to know if this set involved the same schoolroom primer as the larger 7100 Samsonite Educational Set.  Thanks!
  • Thimio777Thimio777 Member Posts: 5
    Wow! Thank you for all the information.

    I hope to have more details tomorrow.
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited June 2015
    Let me put it to you this way @Thimio777 , you have the first known surviving one of these sets!!  :)  Also, I would like to talk via Email about using your images for my collectors guide.

  • Lind_WhispererLind_Whisperer Member Posts: 65
    The set looks like it may be "contaminated" with parts not originally included in the set - in the lower left-handedest compartment, is that a "Timmy" minifigure, or some variation thereof?
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited June 2015
    Yes, I saw Timmy, but I couldn't identify other non-vintage parts.  If all the beams are only 1x6, 1x8, 2x8 and 2x10, that is another good sign, as are white only larger plates (2x8, 4x8, 4x8 curved, 6x8).   And if all those plates are waffle bottom and the 1x6 & 1x8 beams have no posts underneath (but are hollow with cross supports) that's another good sign.  And the set should only have classic (long ledge) windows.

    This set should have about 1600 pieces... including printed bricks, and (hopefully) some 1:87 vehicles... but they might not have survived separation from the set.

    Need larger images to verify.
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited June 2015
    The larger 7100 Educational set had all the parts to build this town scene...




    This included enough parts to build 2 of the 717 Samsonite LEGO Junior Constructor set, and more than enough parts to build a 725 Town Plan set.  Unfortunately no roadways were included in this larger set, it was just shown with custom made ones.  The lower left picture was demonstrating math, the lower right image was a secondary model of the 717 Junior Constructor set, and the teacher is holding the schoolroom primer "On Cherry Street" that was intended to go along with this Educational set.  

    This image was part of a 3 page (alternate build) of the town that could be put together with the "On Cherry Street" primer.  It included 2 typed pages of info, and this scene....



    It wasn't until the 10179 Millenium Falcon was introduced that a larger LEGO box (7100) came into production since this 1960s set was introduced.

    These were some of the specialty parts from the larger 7100 set.... quite a valuable assortment of 1:87 vehicles.  This is the only known intact version of the larger 7100 set known... so I am very curious about the smaller 750 set contents and literature.  This larger box came with about 20 pages of images and instructions.  There is so much information about this set available... that it will be an entire chapter in my next collectors guide update.



    All images from my Unofficial LEGO Sets/Parts Collectors Guide.

  • Thimio777Thimio777 Member Posts: 5
    Hi,

    When I picked it up this morning, it looks like they removed the contaminated pieces. I tried to bring out the bricks that were most interesting in my pictures. There appears to be one brick with a bulb in it. I've got a busy day but I managed to take some pics to share.

    Gary, I can probably do one better than send pictures. We've got relatives near Windsor, Ontario. When I travel out there next maybe we can arrange to meet. I'll be sending an email later today.

    Gary and everyone, thank you for the wealth of information!



  • Thimio777Thimio777 Member Posts: 5
    Looks like we'll be building a town - lol not as exciting as building a Lego Marvel or Ninjago set for my son. He passed out after this building was complete.
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    edited June 2015
    Very nice.... this 750 set can build the 236 Garage Set (or two).  Those figures are not LEGO, and neither are those green elements that look like Chess pawns.  The bushes are true single color green Samsonite LEGO bushes.  Are there any trees, or just bushes?

    Also, I would love to see an image of the box top.... get the exact set outer dimensions when closed (length x width x height).  Also how many different 10x20 thick baseplates (700e) came with the set (apparently in many colors).

    And also important.... was there any literature that came with this set... and how did you determine that it was a 750 sets?   
  • Thimio777Thimio777 Member Posts: 5
    Hi Gary,

    2 trees came with the set.

    I'll provide the dimensions over the next few days along with an image.

    The 700e inventory is as follows: 2 yellow, 1 blue, 2 white, 4 grey.

    Unfortunately, there was no literature with the box. The box is almost identical to the one shown in the Lego Junior Designers club leaflet - double latch with the same design, 1 hinge and Lego identifcation/stickers in the same locations. There is a marking stating that the set was produced in Canada (will add picture later).

    I tried building the fire station this evening without breaking apart the garage but there wasn't enough pieces.

    The following named beams remain:

    Taxi, Station, Car Dealer (unfortunately, no car), Theatre, Post, Hotel, Restaurant.

    Later in the month, I'll provide a break down of each colour. I'll be travelling quite a bit the next 2 weeks.
  • IstokgIstokg Member Posts: 2,363
    Hi James, no need to provide each color count.  That's a lot of work!!   Based on what it looks like in the box, there were not a lot of one stud wide bricks, especially 1x2.

    I do find the names on the printed bricks very interesting.   They follow more the European printed bricks names, than they do the USA ones.

    This set may have not come with any 1:87 Vehicles.  Were there any Esso parts, or road signs or street lights?

    This may have been a simpler set than the 7100 larger set.
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