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Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

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  • juggles7juggles7 United StatesMember Posts: 452
    What's the story on Santa's Workshop?  What can we infer from it being available in the US, but a "retired product" at UK's Shop at Home?  I don't get it.  Also, what about the Winter Village Market?  It was out for 2 Christmases, right?  Which of these, if either, won't be back in 6 months, and won't be here for the holidays?
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited March 2015
    You can infer nothing beyond it being available in the US but not in the UK.  Lego doesn't allow any of us to get it.  Past patterns suggest that the Winter Village Market*, which was out for two seasons, will not be back in the fall, but Santa's Workshop will.  It is also unknown how far into the fall, or beyond, Santa's workshop will stay available.

    *WVM is currently at (US) Amazon, so if you want it, you should grab it soon.  So's SW if you're interested.
    juggles7
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,691
    I think it has been noted in the past (perhaps by @doriansdad iirc) that the US is considered to be more Christmas-crazed and Lego sells those sets here all year and just offers them seasonally in other markets.
    juggles7
  • DAVEmoonDAVEmoon Member Posts: 44
    Ull I think its disgraceful and bullying to pull someone up on their spelling ie collectible.Its an international site,if your claiming its totally British,keep it.
    heinz is a USA company,you still eat the beans.grow up you knew he meant collectibles collectables does it matter.
    VorpalRyu
  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,332
    edited March 2015
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  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,370
    ^What he said.
  • SuperTrampSuperTramp City 17Member Posts: 1,021
    I never knew Heinz was an American company.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,565
    edited March 2015
    DAVEmoon said:
    Ull I think its disgraceful and bullying to pull someone up on their spelling ie collectible.Its an international site,if your claiming its totally British,keep it.

    If you care to actually read the posts, you'll see that an American was asking to change the spelling (in the brickset database) from the British spelling "collectables" to the American spelling "collectibles".

    Sure, if an American uses "collectibles", I know he means "collectables" in my language. But that has to go both ways, it is the British spelling in the database, and Americans have to deal with it. You should know that "collectables" in (British) English means "collectibles" in American English.

    Here are the relevant posts for you ...

    Pitfall69 said:

    BTW, please change "Collectable" to "Collectible"
    Pitfall69 said:
    BTW, please change "Collectable" to "Collectible"
    That one ALWAYS throws me...
    CCC said:

    PS, as brickset is a British run site, collectable is the correct spelling.

    hewman
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited March 2015
    DAVEmoon said:
    Ull I think its disgraceful and bullying to pull someone up on their spelling ie collectible.Its an international site,if your claiming its totally British,keep it.
    heinz is a USA company,you still eat the beans.grow up you knew he meant collectibles collectables does it matter.
    If we're being picky, Heinz should be capitalized, i.e. should have a period after each letter, it's is the proper contraction of it and is - twice, commas and periods should have (at least) one space after, interrogative sentences should end with a question mark, the first word in a sentence should be capitalized (capitalised?) and you're is the proper contraction of you and are.

    Funny enough, I totally can still read it, but it won't win any job interviews.  Also, who'd have thunk Heinz beans were so popular in the UK but not in the US?

    Wait, did Pitfall start this?
    juggles7Pitfall69pharmjodDadbobabricks
  • Anyone knows the danish retail price of the UCS Falcon? I can't find it anywhere...
  • juggles7juggles7 United StatesMember Posts: 452
    Google your way to an online currency converter.  Convert the number you can find to krones/euros/whatever. 
  • juggles7juggles7 United StatesMember Posts: 452
    Ooops!  I guess that doesn't take into account regional pricing differences, though, does it? 
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    CCC said:
    Sure, if an American uses "collectibles", I know he means "collectables" in my language. But that has to go both ways, it is the British spelling in the database, and Americans have to deal with it. You should know that "collectables" in (British) English means "collectibles" in American English.
    Since LEGO refers to CMFs as Minifigures, I have absolutely no problem with this.

    But in the case of #60083 Snowplow Truck, the database lists it as Snowplough Truck. As best I can tell, LEGO uses "snowplow" on the UK sites, and the UK box doesn't use "snowplough" anywhere. In such cases, I think accuracy should trump regional spelling.
    scrumper
  • Bosstone100Bosstone100 USAMember Posts: 1,392
    I remember when this was a friendly site. There are quite a few snarky people on here now. It's a shame.
    BrickDancerRennyThanos75BACbrixmr.pigglesTXLegoguydane
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,565
    edited March 2015
    ^ Yeah, I'd agree there. I'd go with LEGO's spelling.

    I was hoping that the tags feature would render a lot of the spelling issues redundant. If alternative spellings were allowed, then searches are easy and it does not matter which version of English is being used.



  • SuperTrampSuperTramp City 17Member Posts: 1,021

    I remember when this was a friendly site. There are quite a few snarky people on here now. It's a shame.
    Thats old age for you.
    timinchicago
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,154
    Considering there are a couple of other threads about spelling & pronunciation already there seems little need to debate it here.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,565
    PS. Although LEGO just calls them Minifigures in the promotional materials, they do refer to them as collectible Minifigures in the series book - I presume with that spelling so they don't need to reprint for the UK market. Also note that they do not use "collectible minifigures" or "Collectible Minifigures", but "collectible Minifigures". Thus the collectible is not part of the name, but is describing the series.

    I still prefer CMF to all the above though.



  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,370
    Listen people, I put a "winky" face after my comment. No need to get all bent out of shape :)
    Shibjuggles7pharmjodThanos75brickupdateTheLoneTensorbobabricksTXLegoguyAdzbadboy
  • DAVEmoonDAVEmoon Member Posts: 44
    Another clown now commenting on a capital H.Amazing really,thanks be to God,Lego is Danish or we would never hear the end of it.Ye are still talking about 1966 like Moses parted the seas,Its a forum about Lego Lego Lego not pronunciations.JFC
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,052
    ^i was going to say I would bet more is spent on LEGO annually in the US than in the UK, perhaps the world for that matter, so like with everything else we should have it our way and spell it the American way....but I won't go there.... :wink:
    Mordoor
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,370
    Can we move on? When is the DS retiring? What will the next Modular be? Will the UCS Echo Base kill some or all of the currently retired Hoth sets?
    brickupdate
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,565
    ^i was going to say I would bet more is spent on LEGO annually in the US than in the UK, perhaps the world for that matter, so like with everything else we should have it our way and spell it the American way....but I won't go there.... :wink:
    Yes, no doubt the US spend is bigger than the UK. But if you want to play the bigger is more important game, start learning Chinese now.

    Brikingparadisia
  • Bosstone100Bosstone100 USAMember Posts: 1,392

    I remember when this was a friendly site. There are quite a few snarky people on here now. It's a shame.
    Thats old age for you.
    That's blatant disrespect for you.
    SuperTramp
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    edited March 2015
    ^^^^ on that basis soon it will all be written in Chinese and we'll all be 'done for'.
    pharmjodFarmer_John
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,154
    Pitfall69 said:
    Can we move on? When is the DS retiring? What will the next Modular be? Will the UCS Echo Base kill some or all of the currently retired Hoth sets?
    I think that's going to depend a lot on exactly what the new Hoth set is based on - The only reason any of the Hoth sets particularly interested me were for the Tauntaun and Wampa figs.
  • RennyRenny USAMember Posts: 1,139
    With a new Hoth set coming out, maybe the demand for Hoth Han will go up. That is of course a new version is not included.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,565
    My favorite (and I am not even being sarcastic) thing about this thread is how we go from discussing if minifigures belong in the conversation or not to arguing about beans and spelling. I always get a good laugh :D
    For me it is not the spelling that matters, it is being told it is disgraceful and bullying to say why something is in British English, when someone else asks for it to be changed to American English.

    And who is complaining about 1966 being still talked about (presumably referring the English World Cup victory)? Not the English members.
    BrikingTheCableGuy
  • Sethro3Sethro3 United StatesMember Posts: 819
    It'd be interesting if they released another Hoth Han to go with that set, only this time in the other color. Just to keep fuel to that fire...
    VorpalRyusamiam391
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,370
    ^Plaid Han?
    BumblepantspharmjodShibchuckpjuggles7
  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,873
    They need a North Face edition Hoth Han.
    brokenapathy23
  • ZathrasZathras Member Posts: 70
    Maybe a diorama of a golf course and a WW2 era trainer...
  • LobotLobot UKMember Posts: 932
    Pitfall69 said:
    Can we move on? When is the DS retiring? What will the next Modular be? Will the UCS Echo Base kill some or all of the currently retired Hoth sets?

    I'll be very interested to see the new UCS Hoth set, assuming that it exists.  Unless it's £300+ I can't see it being that impressive.  I have a horrible suspicion that it will contain 15-20 minifigures and be of a similar style to 7879, but around 2,000 parts.  Time will tell, and I really hope that I'm wrong!
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,691
    2026 cannot come fast enough
    juggles7
  • juggles7 said:
    Google your way to an online currency converter.  Convert the number you can find to krones/euros/whatever. 
    I could do that, but I am looking for the exact retail price and I think there might be a unusual different since it's a "special" price. Your retail prices are like "I-did-sell-my-family-for-this"-sales to us, so the currency definitely won't match.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,402
    edited March 2015
    samiam391 said:
    I was able to catch a sneak peak of LEGO's list for the next 10 years of May the 4th Promotion polys:

    2016- Plaid Hahn
    2017- Bathrobe Hahn
    2018- Where Are My Pants Hahn
    2019- Hoth Hahn (Hahn strikes back)
    2020- Wampa Guts Hahn
    2021- Plaid Hahn with New Pattern 
    2022- Will you be my Hahney (Honey) Hahn (Late valentine edition)
    2023- One Hahndred Hahn Celebration Hahn
    2024- Fuel for the Fire Hahn (includes sausage)
    2025- North Face Edition Hahn (free with purchases over $150, North Face is expensive)
    2026- I Can't Believe it's Not Hahn, Hahn. 
    Well not to complain, but you forgot "Slammed in the MF Door Han" and "Crashed into the Golf Course Han." They could even use the same facial expression.

    Sorry...poor taste! :wink: 
    pharmjod
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,565
    Lego knows animal suits are all the rage ... Han in a Wookiee suit.
    pharmjodkhmellymelVorpalRyubobabricksAdzbadboychuckpklatu003
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,402
    edited March 2015
    At the risk of getting a virtual head-butt, TRU (at least our local shop) has Series 13 CMFs on sale for 2/$5...most likely to clearance them to make room for the next round of The Simpsons CMFs. Series 13 CMFs are now EOL'd at [email protected] (which is why I am posting this here).

    I started reminiscing when I saw the prices were below $3/each and it brought a tear to my eye. Unfortunately a TRU employee was nearby and promptly marked the price back up over retail just to make me quit crying. :wink: 
    VorpalRyu
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    @NavyAsk for some reason, I can't find what the UCS MF's RRP was in Danish Krones. But do have it for most others if that helps in some small way:

    GBP = 342.99
    USD = 499.99
    CAN = 679.99
    AUS = 979.99
    NZD = 999.99
    SEK = 5,889

    [Deleted User]
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,402
    A quick check of [email protected] shows there are several larger sets on the verge of going sometime this year:

    #10234 - Sydney Opera House
    #10236 - Ewok Village
    #10214 - Tower Bridge
    #10240 - Red Five X-Wing Starfighter
    #10237 - Tower of Orthanc
    #10218 - Pet Shop
    #10220 - VW Camper Van
    #71006 - The Simpsons House (expected ship date of September 1st)

    If I was guessing, I would say that seven of the eight sets listed above (including Simpsons House) will be gone by year's end and at least five will be gone by summer's end.
    TXLegoguy
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,154
    I can kind of see Simpsons House becoming a bit of a Death Star - if they do want to keep the theme going the way they are it seems to make sense to have the house plus one other location on the shelves. Hard to say though, I know for a fact that it got a few non FOLs looking at Lego again, being the resident Lego guy in my network meant people asking me about it.
  • ACWWGal2011ACWWGal2011 Member Posts: 534

    "At the risk of getting a virtual head-butt, TRU (at least our local shop) has Series 13 CMFs on sale for 2/$5...most likely to clearance them to make room for the next round of The Simpsons CMFs. Series 13 CMFs are now EOL'd at [email protected] (which is why I am posting this here). "

    But isn't it a bit early for that to be going on already? It's still at least 3 weeks b4 they show up around here.

  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,876
    I guess I'll part out my old Hoth base sets. Been holding onto those and the Battle of Endors for way too long.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,370
    ^Are they sealed?
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,301
    A quick check of [email protected] shows there are several larger sets on the verge of going sometime this year:

    #10234 - Sydney Opera House
    #10236 - Ewok Village
    #10214 - Tower Bridge
    #10240 - Red Five X-Wing Starfighter
    #10237 - Tower of Orthanc
    #10218 - Pet Shop
    #10220 - VW Camper Van
    #71006 - The Simpsons House (expected ship date of September 1st)

    If I was guessing, I would say that seven of the eight sets listed above (including Simpsons House) will be gone by year's end and at least five will be gone by summer's end.
    Just curious, how did you come to the conclusions based on a look at [email protected]?
    I mean I know the Pet shop, VW Van, Tower Bridge are long in tooth, but is there something that appears on [email protected] (besides that silly 'retiring soon' tag) that is showing you these are going to be gone soon?

  • BrickarmorBrickarmor USAMember Posts: 1,257
    Ship date on #71006 is just nuts. I would chalk it up to a joke today had it not been showing that date for several days now.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,691
    I wouldn't freak out about those ship dates too much. They are probably just in recovery mode from 2x VIP points orders and it will shake out in a few weeks. The September date for Simpsons house is a bit odd though. If that disappears when the Mart comes out it will skyrocket. Perhaps even higher than Town Hall did.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,402
    A quick check of [email protected] shows there are several larger sets on the verge of going sometime this year:

    #10234 - Sydney Opera House
    #10236 - Ewok Village
    #10214 - Tower Bridge
    #10240 - Red Five X-Wing Starfighter
    #10237 - Tower of Orthanc
    #10218 - Pet Shop
    #10220 - VW Camper Van
    #71006 - The Simpsons House (expected ship date of September 1st)

    If I was guessing, I would say that seven of the eight sets listed above (including Simpsons House) will be gone by year's end and at least five will be gone by summer's end.
    Just curious, how did you come to the conclusions based on a look at [email protected]?
    I mean I know the Pet shop, VW Van, Tower Bridge are long in tooth, but is there something that appears on [email protected] (besides that silly 'retiring soon' tag) that is showing you these are going to be gone soon?

    No...nothing specific on [email protected] As you said, these are all primarily long in the tooth or have other indications such as availability 6 months out (Simpsons House), etc..

    I can't image the SOH, or TB are selling that great based on their price and availability. With the recent or near-term releases of the UCS Slave 1 and UCS Tie Fighter sets, there are just too many UCS (or large SW Sets) available in general. Plus Red Five has hit the magic time period when UCS sets usually go. TLG is drawing down its Hobbit and LotR theme, and in fact the ToO is the last remaining LotR set available. Pet shop will likely go by October when TLG gets prepares to launch the next modular. The VW Camper is an interesting set and more of a question mark. I can see it being an AFOL favorite, but it's also been out a LONG time.  I would say the EV is probably the least likely of the list above to go this year.

    These would all be on my near-term purchase list if I was worried about having to pay the exorbitant aftermarket prices.
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