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Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

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  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    SuperTramp said:

    I agree, Its not rare at all. How can a mass produced Lego set be rare?

    Rare:
    marked by unusual quality, merit, or appeal.

    You are correct that there were many TH's produced, but I am taking an educated guess that they did not produce as many BECAUSE of its appeal AND because it was unusual that they would retire the TH at least 2 years earlier than the GE.
  • DadDad Member Posts: 816
    Seriously..I'm not getting it. Less produced yes...less appeal yes...unusual retirement pattern yes.

    Rocking horse shit ? No.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,837
    Any of those sellers in China or Korea with abnormally higher sold prices are red flags to me. I don't consider that valid data for my personal research to price sets.


    Agreed, I ignore those as well, but some recent prices have appeared to be 'domestic' (I'm in the US). I am curious how I can see a set, in general, that typically goes for 200 USD only to see the same set supposedly sell for 400 USD from one specific seller.
    MrJ_NY said:

    I sat & watched an auction end on a used TH last night and it sold for the same price as one NIB :neutral_face:

    Well shillers can do this as well. Does the bid history have 20 bids from a guy with 1 feedback making xx.99 type bids? eBay supposedly wants to stop this, at least officially. However, the sellers are not going to complain that is for sure, and with the confidential IDs now (at least in US) it is hard to make a case for it, though common sense would speak otherwise. eBay is not going to complain either, as they make a percentage off the sale. So it is likely to keep happening, which is why it makes more sense to snipe an auction, as 'low brow' as it is to many, than bid only to see someone only trying to up the cost, whether they know the seller and have an agreement, or they are just being jokers and want to see someone pay more.
    vasp said:

    I think TH is the only modular to hit the $500 mark post retirement at the fastest pace.

    You mean 'will be' right? Unless it has jumped to consistently be SOLD (not listed but SOLD) for 500 USD in one night (last night it was about '$399.99' on eBay (in US)
    Dad said:

    But its not rare is it? If I want to spend £10000 on them tomorrow I can have a room full of them. I have 4 of them. Just before Christmas I finally found a die cast car still on its blister pack that I've been looking for over 10 years. That's rare or some of your older sets you have are rare. Town Halls not rare. There's 50 for sale on eBay.

    I get your point. 'Rare' is subjective and usually needs a qualifier (and it does not hurt that eBay is around which usually makes 'rare' a lot less 'rare, or at least a lot less 'hard to find'). Though it is arguably more rare than FB and anything after (which is not saying much but still), maybe even more 'rare' than 10182 when it first retired. As @Pitfall69‌ noted, it is 40-50 USD more than a mod and not a particularly desired set at the time of its production. I would say while not showing its 'rarity' now it will in about 1-2 years from the looks of it.
    Also of those '50' how many are scammers listing them at this moment to try to make a quick buck off of a hacked account?

    In any case, It is about 'Supply and Demand'. I doubt it is only speculators driving the price up on these as not many had stocks of these.
    If you could really 'buy a room full' of these as you note I say do it, as they are likely to keep climbing and climbing well. If I could grab a couple at retail I would, course if everyone had that option then it would not be so 'rare' then.
    MrJ_NYPitfall69
  • DadDad Member Posts: 816
    I agree it will keep climbing and that it will become rare and hard to find. I just don't consider it rare at present because it's very easily sourced.
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    SuperTramp said:

    I agree, Its not rare at all. How can a mass produced Lego set be rare?

    I have a very very rare copy of #7191. It is fifteen years old and looks like it just came off the factory line. I would challenge anyone to find another in the condition mind is. As @Dad would call it, "rocking horse shit". :-)
    Lego_Star
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    edited January 2015
    I'm fairly amazed at the recent price increase for Brawny Boxer from Team GB. I bought a couple of spares back in July for £4 a piece. Stuck one on BL for £12, sold within hours. Stuck the other on at £16, same thing. I know he's the rare one, but I thought he had plateaued at about £8, with a very gradual rise. Obviously not!
  • DadDad Member Posts: 816
    Legoboy said:

    SuperTramp said:

    I agree, Its not rare at all. How can a mass produced Lego set be rare?

    I have a very very rare copy of #7191. It is fifteen years old and looks like it just came off the factory line. I would challenge anyone to find another in the condition mind is. As @Dad would call it, "rocking horse shit". :-)
    Condition is everything @Legoboy . More important than size.

  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    edited January 2015
    Town Hall didn't sell well for two reasons. Numero Uno, it's a boring building. Numero Dos, it cost $200. For a boring building, that's a lot of money. Lego is popular and has a cult following so the price of course is skyrocketing. It's a feast for the resellers that managed to snag copies before it retired early. I wish I would have grabbed a few. It seems like only yesterday I remember them gathering dust on the store shelves at the local Lego store.
  • piratemania7piratemania7 Member Posts: 2,146
    I really never thought TH was a boring build. I think what got most people was that they were used to a $150.00 USD price point and then WAHBAM! $200 bucks please :smiley: I think that deterred people the most. If you are serious about collecting the mods line then you wouldn't let others opinions about it being a boring build deter you from buying it.
  • BastaBasta Member Posts: 1,259
    I am currently building the TH with only the roof to go, I don't think it has been boring at all.

    I'm sitting on two of these, normally I don't hold onto sets long, if I can get 500+ shipping I will probably sell. I already sold the third one I had for $400 + Shipping just before Christmas.

    I do believe that in a couple of years time the TH will be the most expensive Mod to buy (excluding those released before FB). Once all the quick flippers are done with TH it will be "rare" comparatively to FB & GE IMO.
    MrJ_NY
  • vaspvasp Member Posts: 73
    edited January 2015
    madforLEGO said:


    vasp said:

    I think TH is the only modular to hit the $500 mark post retirement at the fastest pace.

    You mean 'will be' right? Unless it has jumped to consistently be SOLD (not listed but SOLD) for 500 USD in one night (last night it was about '$399.99' on eBay (in US)


    I was going on the basis of amazon price. Sold 2 at 499.99 last night.
  • brickupdatebrickupdate Member Posts: 1,020
    I can already imagine the future LEGO historians, coming to page 457 of this thread (now up to page 4,067), mocking us for not not "investing" in TH at the dirt cheap price of $500.

    In the future: all currency will be TH.
    :)
    -----------------------------
    Seriously though: How is there not a Bloomberg Terminal type data system for LEGO investing. There seems to be a lot of anecdotal or momentary mentions of pricing, but not any real data tracking. It seems like the LEGO aftermarket is a mature and stable enough place to warrant such a thing. Do other industries have this for aftermarket collector/investors?
  • HitchHitch Member Posts: 7
    Of course there's data tracking at brickpicker which gets it data from ebay and at camelcamelcamel which gets its data from 3rd party sellers at amazon. Both have their pros, cons, strengths and limitations. Other collectibles have completed auctions at ebay. That's all I know of.
    brickupdate
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    Does anybody have any info on why the Le Mans car #42038 isn't available in the US? Is it common for there to be a delay between release dates in different markets? Or is it possible that it might never be available in the US?
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    brickupdate said:

    I can already imagine the future LEGO historians, coming to page 457 of this thread (now up to page 4,067), mocking us for not not "investing" in TH at the dirt cheap price of $500.

    In the future: all currency will be TH.
    :)
    -----------------------------

    Yep, $500 will look like a bargain 12 months from now. I have a strong suspicion that Tower Bridge is going to mirror the performance of Town Hall, only faster and farther.


  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,837
    edited January 2015
    vasp said:

    madforLEGO said:


    vasp said:

    I think TH is the only modular to hit the $500 mark post retirement at the fastest pace.

    You mean 'will be' right? Unless it has jumped to consistently be SOLD (not listed but SOLD) for 500 USD in one night (last night it was about '$399.99' on eBay (in US)

    I was going on the basis of amazon price. Sold 2 at 499.99 last night.
    Ahh, Ok. I tend to take numbers more seriously at eBay, but that is just me. Interesting that people are buying at Amazon for more than at eBay. I guess there are many people still with disposable income when they can be had for 100 USD cheaper on eBay and I believe have many of the same buyer protections in place.
    enotoga said:

    brickupdate said:

    I can already imagine the future LEGO historians, coming to page 457 of this thread (now up to page 4,067), mocking us for not not "investing" in TH at the dirt cheap price of $500.

    In the future: all currency will be TH.
    :)
    -----------------------------

    Yep, $500 will look like a bargain 12 months from now. I have a strong suspicion that Tower Bridge is going to mirror the performance of Town Hall, only faster and farther.


    Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic.

    pharmjod
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,837
    edited January 2015
    dup post
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    Boring is a bit in the eye of the beholder. My kiddo at 6 or 7 saw the video of TH, and thought it looked very cool. It is hard for me to believe how high the price has risen on this one.
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    edited January 2015

    madforLEGO guote:

    "Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic."
    ___________


    True that 5 years is a long time.....but TB is a completely different animal. Not a generic Town Hall in anytown. No sir......this is the iconic Tower Bridge, loved the world over. And if TH amd HH taught us anything, it's that price matters..... a lot. Time will tell. But I'd pick up one more TB just to be safe.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    This past October, I had an extra copy of TH and worked out a deal to sell it to a fellow Bricksetter for $275 with local pickup (TH was going for $300 plus shipping at the time). The set cost me $220 plus gas and time, so I wasn't really going to make much on the deal. Anyway, it took my son and me almost half a day to dig though my storage room to find the set, only to have the guy back out of the deal without ever directly informing me (via BL messaging as we had been using). The only notice he ever provided was a general post to this thread (a couple days after the fact) that he had found a set somewhere else. At the time I was a little perturbed at the guy for needlessly wasting a chunk of our weekend as he did.

    Besides making me a bit more wary of spending hours digging out sets, I like the idea that sitting on this set may have inadvertently provided me with a return on the time my son and I wasted digging it out for this guy in the first place. When I eventually do decide to sell it, some of the profits will definitely go to purchase one of the new SH sets for my son for wasting his time too.
    Pitfall69Ronyar
  • Sethro3Sethro3 Member Posts: 1,016
    So I'm thinking people should take pictures and post them of their storage rooms of all of these sealed sets!

    I don't have the extra money to buy most sets at MSRP, let alone above that. And let alone extras on top of that....

    Next, TH was actually interesting. My least favorite bit was the front doors not being able to open all of the way, but otherwise it had a lot of neat features. The only main problem was the price tag. Which it was also 2700 pieces, right? so somewhat justified, but unexpected.

    And I'm not surprised they are selling for more on Amazon. I've sold countless figures on Amazon way more than on eBay. The main problem for me was sitting on the item for a lot longer. Since there wasn't an insertion fee and stock photos, it was easier for me to do it that way. With eBay, you will unload products a lot quicker, whether or not it is a similar price.
    brickupdateDanGP
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    edited January 2015
    Something I've been thinking about lately is whether there is a correlation between the popularity/corresponding sales revenue for Lego vs. the aftermarket potential. I realize there are always exceptions, but (in general) can a "popular" set be considered as a aftermarket winner (and conversely, can an "unpopular" set end up being a loser...in general).

    The obvious question is why Lego would discontinue a "popular" set? One reason is licensing agreements...another reason might be production constraints. I'm sure there are other reasons...

    I bring this up because I'm wondering why TLG (with their limited capacity) is re-releasing the Bionicle theme? I know it's a sentimental theme for them since it helped pull them out of the proverbial "financial fire." While the Bionicle theme was originally popular, the aftermarket is not that great (which indicates there probably isn't much interest). I remember the first round of Bionicle sets being on significant sales shortly before the theme was killed. With Hero Factory, Ninjago, Super Heroes, Chima, etc. having since come along, I just don't see Bionicle doing well at all.

    While Bionicle may have sold well during its original release, it tapered off towards the end with no real interest after it was gone. The decision to re-release it seems to be based more on sentiment and less on sound business. And I sure hate to see Lego waste their limited bandwidth on outdated themes. (don't get me started on Chima)
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    Farmer_John said:

    And I sure hate to see Lego waste their limited bandwidth on outdated themes. (don't get me started on Chima)

    I'll get you started. Chima has been quite a success, hasn't it? Maybe not as big a hit as Ninjago was, but it seems to have sold quite well, with some popular sets. Sure some have been on sale, but then so has just about every LOTR / Hobbit set, every superheroes set, every SW set ...
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,837
    edited January 2015
    Farmer_John said:

    This past October, I had an extra copy of TH and worked out a deal to sell it to a fellow Bricksetter for $275 with local pickup (TH was going for $300 plus shipping at the time). The set cost me $220 plus gas and time, so I wasn't really going to make much on the deal. Anyway, it took my son and me almost half a day to dig though my storage room to find the set, only to have the guy back out of the deal without ever directly informing me (via BL messaging as we had been using). The only notice he ever provided was a general post to this thread (a couple days after the fact) that he had found a set somewhere else. At the time I was a little perturbed at the guy for needlessly wasting a chunk of our weekend as he did.

    Besides making me a bit more wary of spending hours digging out sets, I like the idea that sitting on this set may have inadvertently provided me with a return on the time my son and I wasted digging it out for this guy in the first place. When I eventually do decide to sell it, some of the profits will definitely go to purchase one of the new SH sets for my son for wasting his time too.

    I would be thankful I did not sell it in the first place, regardless of the reason why it did not sell. I get that you are steamed about that time and effort, but I think the silver lining has to be seen here about how the set is rapidly rising in price.
    Sethro3 said:

    So I'm thinking people should take pictures and post them of their storage rooms of all of these sealed sets!

    I don't have the extra money to buy most sets at MSRP, let alone above that. And let alone extras on top of that....

    I do not think asking people to post pictures of their masses of LEGO boxes in storage as resellers is going to go over well with about 50% of the forum (even in this thread). If you want to ask that I would say go to the 'Brag' thread around here, and do not do it in this one. I get that this is the predictions and secondary market value thread, but showing a load of boxes in a room is not really this topic IMO. Someone does not need to show a load of boxes to say the think a set will go up or down in demand/price after EOL.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    enotoga said:


    madforLEGO guote:

    "Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic."
    ___________


    True that 5 years is a long time.....but TB is a completely different animal. Not a generic Town Hall in anytown. No sir......this is the iconic Tower Bridge, loved the world over. And if TH amd HH taught us anything, it's that price matters..... a lot. Time will tell. But I'd pick up one more TB just to be safe.

    I would hazzard a guess that most Americans have no idea what the Tower Bridge is. Most would probably call it the London Bridge, which is obviously a totally different animal. I don't think TB will do as well as you say.

    pharmjod
  • SuperTrampSuperTramp Member Posts: 1,021
    ^I know right, Didn't you guys buy the London bridge thinking it was Tower Bridge?
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    edited January 2015
    Sethro3 said:

    So I'm thinking people should take pictures and post them of their storage rooms of all of these sealed sets!

    I don't have the extra money to buy most sets at MSRP, let alone above that. And let alone extras on top of that....

    @madforLEGO‌ said:
    "I do not think asking people to post pictures of their masses of LEGO boxes in storage as resellers is going to go over well with about 50% of the forum (even in this thread). If you want to ask that I would say go to the 'Brag' thread around here, and do not do it in this one. I get that this is the predictions and secondary market value thread, but showing a load of boxes in a room is not really this topic IMO. Someone does not need to show a load of boxes to say the think a set will go up or down in demand/price after EOL."

    I am only speculating (this is the right thread for that), but maybe he posted that comment because he feels that there is no way people have that much Lego in their storage rooms. I don't know if he thinks that some people on the forum lie about their hoards or what, but maybe he can elaborate as to why he wants people to post pictures of their hoard.

    weevin
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,556
    Don't do it on the brag thread. You'll get flamed. People used to publish such photos and it doesn't seem to go down well. Just know what you have, and don't let on.
    SuperTrampgoshe7
  • LegoKipLegoKip Member Posts: 259
    @SuperTramp‌ If by "we" you mean Americans, then yes, we did buy London Bridge and it's in Lake Havasu City, Arizona.
    (I hope you're laughing.)
    pharmjod
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    LegoKip said:

    @SuperTramp‌ If by "we" you mean Americans, then yes, we did buy London Bridge and it's in Lake Havasu City, Arizona.
    (I hope you're laughing.)

    Well, there you go.

  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    edited January 2015
    What a boring Lego set this London Bridge is!!!

    Also...
    http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=50209
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    @Farmer_John‌
    One consideration is who are the sets targeted towards. As an example City has been a big theme for Lego, but in general the sets do not go through the roof on the after market. Kids are the main buyers of City, and I would argue are the main buyers of Bionicle.

    I suspect huge after market prices have more to do with themes that AFOLs go after as opposed to themes more kids are into.

    Surprisingly, every one of my kids knew about the Bionicle theme and all believed it was far better than Hero Factory. I have no idea how they knew this, but I suspect if even my kids with no interest in either theme knew this, that Bionicle has a bigger sales potential compared to hero factory. It doesn't have to be the biggest selling theme either, but if it brings in more revenue than what they currently have out, then why not?
  • Sethro3Sethro3 Member Posts: 1,016
    I made that comment above, mostly to see what a room full of unopened boxes would look like. I don't care if people lie or tell the truth on here. It's the internet, there is no truth.

    But I thought it would be interesting to see just how crazy some people are with their purchases and hoarding practices....
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    CCC said:

    I'll get you started. Chima has been quite a success, hasn't it? Maybe not as big a hit as Ninjago was, but it seems to have sold quite well, with some popular sets. Sure some have been on sale, but then so has just about every LOTR / Hobbit set, every superheroes set, every SW set ...

    I guess we can disagree on Chima. Personally, I quit trying to figure out the theme a long time ago. All I know is that it's weird. My kids have been interested in just about every theme to be released by TLG except Chima...which they agree is weird.

    I hear very little talk on this thread about the aftermarket possibilities for Chima sets, and I hear nothing regarding people loading up on them at sale prices. There's probably a good reason for that...

    Additionally, all one has to do is look at the sets that are on sale from Amazon, in the discount aisles at Target or Walmart, or periodically being given away by TLG. And most of those sets don't move. The best I can say about the Chima theme is that it does introduce new pieces to the mix.

    My kids did like Bionicle, but moved on to Hero Factory when it came out. In looking at the aftermarket pricing for Bionicle sets, they just haven't appreciated that much. Toss in the fact that the majority of the Bionicle sets were on sale frequently during their tenure and consistently when they were being EOL'd, I just don't think the 2nd round will do that well...unless TLG has some surprises in store regarding the theme.

    JMHO.
    brickupdate
  • HitchHitch Member Posts: 7
    CCC said:

    Farmer_John said:

    And I sure hate to see Lego waste their limited bandwidth on outdated themes. (don't get me started on Chima)

    I'll get you started. Chima has been quite a success, hasn't it? Maybe not as big a hit as Ninjago was, but it seems to have sold quite well, with some popular sets. Sure some have been on sale, but then so has just about every LOTR / Hobbit set, every superheroes set, every SW set ...
    I like the show and wish the line would succeed, but it has not.

    Supply has exceeded demand throughout Chima's run and deep discounting is the rule, not the exception. Not so for any other line, and certainly not for SW or SH. It's amazing that there was more than one wave of Speedorz, which stores had a hard time moving at even half off. It's amazing that we keep getting wave after wave of product. And it shows how absolutely bumbling and clueless department store managers are when their clearance aisles are chock full of Chima, and yet they keep buying the next wave.


    Farmer_Johnpharmjod
  • pharmjodpharmjod Member Posts: 2,916
    I would suspect that since Chima is an in house brand, LEGO can probably pass along massive discounts to retailers compared to say, Star Wars or Super Heroes. I mean if they are able to sell the entire Chima line to Wal Mart for say 70-80% or more off of its MSRP vs Super Heroes / Star Wars for maybe 40-60%, that could translate to more sales. Just a thought. I have no idea if the deals actually work like that but it wouldn't surprise me if it was something similar.
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    edited January 2015
    Pitfall69 said:

    enotoga said:


    madforLEGO guote:

    "Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic."
    ___________


    True that 5 years is a long time.....but TB is a completely different animal. Not a generic Town Hall in anytown. No sir......this is the iconic Tower Bridge, loved the world over. And if TH amd HH taught us anything, it's that price matters..... a lot. Time will tell. But I'd pick up one more TB just to be safe.

    I would hazzard a guess that most Americans have no idea what the Tower Bridge is. Most would probably call it the London Bridge, which is obviously a totally different animal. I don't think TB will do as well as you say.

    While it's true that most Americans think you're still living in mud huts and eating rotten food, we do know about your dungeons, where you store your jewels, and the surrounding tunnels and river crossings. We make that our business. We consider you ours. You're our very own little Mary Poppins Land.
  • piratemania7piratemania7 Member Posts: 2,146
    enotoga said:

    Pitfall69 said:

    enotoga said:


    madforLEGO guote:

    "Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic."
    ___________


    True that 5 years is a long time.....but TB is a completely different animal. Not a generic Town Hall in anytown. No sir......this is the iconic Tower Bridge, loved the world over. And if TH amd HH taught us anything, it's that price matters..... a lot. Time will tell. But I'd pick up one more TB just to be safe.

    I would hazzard a guess that most Americans have no idea what the Tower Bridge is. Most would probably call it the London Bridge, which is obviously a totally different animal. I don't think TB will do as well as you say.

    While it's true that most Americans think you're still living in mud huts and eating rotten food, we do know about your dungeons, where you store your jewels, and the surrounding tunnels and river crossings. We make that our business. We consider you ours. You're our very own little Mary Poppins Land.
    Huh?
    CircleKPitfall69BumblepantsmadforLEGO
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    enotoga said:

    Pitfall69 said:

    enotoga said:


    madforLEGO guote:

    "Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic."
    ___________


    True that 5 years is a long time.....but TB is a completely different animal. Not a generic Town Hall in anytown. No sir......this is the iconic Tower Bridge, loved the world over. And if TH amd HH taught us anything, it's that price matters..... a lot. Time will tell. But I'd pick up one more TB just to be safe.

    I would hazzard a guess that most Americans have no idea what the Tower Bridge is. Most would probably call it the London Bridge, which is obviously a totally different animal. I don't think TB will do as well as you say.

    While it's true that most Americans think you're still living in mud huts and eating rotten food, we do know about your dungeons, where you store your jewels, and the surrounding tunnels and river crossings. We make that our business. We consider you ours. You're our very own little Mary Poppins Land.
    I don't know what you are smoking...or sniffing, but please send me a PM on where I can purchase such things because you are waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy out there buddy ;)

    Seriously, I AM an American. I am poking fun at the reality that most Americans probably don't have a clue about the Tower Bridge.

    madforLEGO
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    piratemania7 said:

    enotoga said:

    Pitfall69 said:

    enotoga said:


    madforLEGO guote:

    "Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic."
    ___________


    True that 5 years is a long time.....but TB is a completely different animal. Not a generic Town Hall in anytown. No sir......this is the iconic Tower Bridge, loved the world over. And if TH amd HH taught us anything, it's that price matters..... a lot. Time will tell. But I'd pick up one more TB just to be safe.

    I would hazzard a guess that most Americans have no idea what the Tower Bridge is. Most would probably call it the London Bridge, which is obviously a totally different animal. I don't think TB will do as well as you say.

    While it's true that most Americans think you're still living in mud huts and eating rotten food, we do know about your dungeons, where you store your jewels, and the surrounding tunnels and river crossings. We make that our business. We consider you ours. You're our very own little Mary Poppins Land.
    Huh?
    I thought it was funny. You have to admit that Tony Blair was our b*tch during the whole Iraq war scandal.
  • piratemania7piratemania7 Member Posts: 2,146
    edited January 2015
    mathew said:

    piratemania7 said:

    enotoga said:

    Pitfall69 said:

    enotoga said:


    madforLEGO guote:

    "Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic."
    ___________


    True that 5 years is a long time.....but TB is a completely different animal. Not a generic Town Hall in anytown. No sir......this is the iconic Tower Bridge, loved the world over. And if TH amd HH taught us anything, it's that price matters..... a lot. Time will tell. But I'd pick up one more TB just to be safe.

    I would hazzard a guess that most Americans have no idea what the Tower Bridge is. Most would probably call it the London Bridge, which is obviously a totally different animal. I don't think TB will do as well as you say.

    While it's true that most Americans think you're still living in mud huts and eating rotten food, we do know about your dungeons, where you store your jewels, and the surrounding tunnels and river crossings. We make that our business. We consider you ours. You're our very own little Mary Poppins Land.
    Huh?
    I thought it was funny. You have to admit that Tony Blair was our b*tch during the whole Iraq war scandal.
    Are y'all referencing the Revolutionary War and Paul Revere again?
  • samiam391samiam391 Member Posts: 4,506
    enotoga said:

    Pitfall69 said:

    enotoga said:


    madforLEGO guote:

    "Tower Bridge has been out going on 5 years and at times was on sale for under 200 USD. That likely means many are sitting on at least a handful of them, so I'm not so sure it is going to meteorically rise as you are claiming, unless you are being sarcastic."
    ___________


    True that 5 years is a long time.....but TB is a completely different animal. Not a generic Town Hall in anytown. No sir......this is the iconic Tower Bridge, loved the world over. And if TH amd HH taught us anything, it's that price matters..... a lot. Time will tell. But I'd pick up one more TB just to be safe.

    I would hazzard a guess that most Americans have no idea what the Tower Bridge is. Most would probably call it the London Bridge, which is obviously a totally different animal. I don't think TB will do as well as you say.

    While it's true that most Americans think you're still living in mud huts and eating rotten food, we do know about your dungeons, where you store your jewels, and the surrounding tunnels and river crossings. We make that our business. We consider you ours. You're our very own little Mary Poppins Land.
    I think you're on the wrong forums...
    HitchMathBuilder
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    mathew said:

    I thought it was funny. You have to admit that Tony Blair was our b*tch during the whole Iraq war scandal.

    It was almost as funny as our fearless leader sending John Kerry to France with James Taylor to sing "You've got a Friend" after ignoring our allies' anti-terrorist march in France with other world leaders. I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry when I heard that one (but I am still shaking my head).

    Winter, spring, summer or fall,
    All you got to do is call (except when I'm golfing or fundraising),
    And I'll be there (one week late),
    You've got a friend.

    Brings a tear to my eyes...
    dougtscloaked7
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    Farmer_John said:

    mathew said:

    I thought it was funny. You have to admit that Tony Blair was our b*tch during the whole Iraq war scandal.

    It was almost as funny as our fearless leader sending John Kerry to France with James Taylor to sing "You've got a Friend" after ignoring our allies' anti-terrorist march in France with other world leaders. I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry when I heard that one (but I am still shaking my head).
    I don't even pay attention anymore. They're all just puppets anyway.
    madforLEGO
  • ChubblesChubbles Member Posts: 459
    Out of stock with an expected ship date means it will still ship or could they still just flip that out of stock retired? Looking to make TB my first investment piece and wondering if I should place the order or go to ebay to lock it up.
  • BrickaholicBrickaholic Member Posts: 342


    Hitch said:

    Thinking of turning to the dark side, eh, Chubbles? Thinking of reselling a Lego set, eh? Don't do it! Not only is it NOT awesome, but you'll be earning the hatred of Lego consumers, kids, moms, pops, clueless grandparents that say "legos", and even fellow resellers everywhere! You're going to have to lie, lie, lie, Chubbles, when the Lego Store employees ask "who is this for?". You'll squirm, look at the floor, stammer, and haltingly say it's for your brother, when you know in your black heart, Chubbles, that you don't have a brother! but that you're going to sell the item for profit! For profit on Ebay with hundreds of others scammers, frauds, thieves, cannibals, and perverts!

    And you risk being banned banned, banned, Chubbles and they won't ship to you any more from Shop at Home. And if you forget and tell the truth that you're a reseller, you'll be banned from the Lego Store, forced to don a series of ridiculous disguises to even shop there (I'm thinking Groucho Marx-style fake nose, eyeglasses, and bushy eyebrows), forced to use clumsy foreign accents, paying cash only, and foregoing your formerly-cherished VIP card. You won't be able to chat up the workers for rumors and misinformation any longer. You'll never get an invite to the pre-Black Friday sales event, Chubbles! You'll weep along with other grown men in this forum that another year has gone by and again no pre-Black Friday invite!! Who knows what nifty cool awesome store-exclusive collectible will come out eventually, Chubbles, and you won't get one because you've been identified as a reseller! It's not too late! Save yourself! Turn back, Chubbles, turn back!!!!

    -------------
    Just kidding around, dude. Thanks for being a good sport. TB is available now at Amazon, a much safer purchase than at Ebay. Good luck and all the best to you!

    You forgot to also add the 1000 years of Purgatory, which is quite an important exclusion :)

  • aldreddaldredd Member Posts: 203
    Had a good chuckle at that Hitch, thanks!
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,478
    Farmer_John said:

    I guess we can disagree on Chima. Personally, I quit trying to figure out the theme a long time ago. All I know is that it's weird. My kids have been interested in just about every theme to be released by TLG except Chima...which they agree is weird.

    I hear very little talk on this thread about the aftermarket possibilities for Chima sets, and I hear nothing regarding people loading up on them at sale prices. There's probably a good reason for that...

    I think the thing with Chima is that most AFOLs aren't very interested in it*. AFOL demand is what fuels aftermarket prices far more than anything else, parents are less likely to pay inflated prices when they could buy something current with more pieces for less money etc. It's the sort of theme that may or may not have an after market say 10-20 years down the line, when todays CFOLs come out of dark ages etc. The thing is no one is likely to hold on to sets that long so it's quite a moot point.


    *I say this as someone who originally hated Chima but came to really like it after building a couple of sets.
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