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Need one Final Wave of Lord of the Rings then it can be finshed
I don't know how many others out there were hoping for one final wave of Lord of the Rings so that we could get a Minas Tirith, Osgiliath, Balrog and maybe even a Mumukil. I would at least like to see Lego finish some of the main characters such as the Witch King, Faramir, Eowyn, and Gondor Soldiers. If you are like me and want one last wave of LOTR sets I think that as a Lego community and fan base we should go vote for some of the best LOTR projects on lego Ideas such as this Minas Tirith: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/36275
. I think that if we can get just a couple projects to hit 10000 we might be able to get Lego to produce one more wave or even just the Minas Tirith set would be great.
I also know that there has been a Lego LOTR petition floating around out there: http://www.change.org/p/save-lego-the-lord-of-the-rings
but I don't know how much good this will do. I think that for LOTR fans the best chance we have at a few more sets is by voting on Lego Ideas for them so that we can show them that there is still a fan base for these sets.
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People often vote and sign petitions with their hearts rather than with their head.
Unless LoTR shows up back in the theaters, or there is another video game, then no more sets are likely.
Nothing wrong per se with the sets, just hard to match the scale of the scenes in the book/movies in LEGO and keeping it cheap for bigger sales, without losing detail anyway.
Just like I'm sure people want Indy, Potter, PoTC back, but again, there is not enough publicity of these lines to warrant it.
It goes back to the Legends debate and if old lines of other thing should be redone.
LEGO has to think about the costs and have to think big in terms of sets sold. Obviously 'Ideas' is a bit of an exception to the rule (at least with 2 specific sets that have been released under Cuusoo/ideas) but LEGO is in it to really hit a homer, not a single (sorry for the baseball terms anyone not in the US :-) )
Who knows, maybe TLG will surprise us and realise a couple of last gasps for the theme. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
If they did a Balrog they'd probably do it Jabba or Smaug style.
It wasn't long ago everyone wanted a Prancing Pony, but that seems to have quietened down.
Minas Tirith - Tan Cave Troll, Gondor Soldiers
Battle of Phelenor Fields - Witch King, Nazgul, Eowyn
Osgiliath - Faramir, Gondor Rangers
Those four sets pretty much cover everything that is missing.
It was a poor seller with the target audience, unfortunately.
The best thing for this theme was Battle Packs and for whatever reason it wasn't in the license. Which seems foolish.
It could still happen....
LoTR was one of my favorite all time themes. There are a lot of things I wish they would have done differently, but in the end I am very glad we got it.
Also, it may breach the terms of their current license, as they would be involving payment to a third party.
Worse, some of them were even grossly over-priced walls.
Things like Orthanc and Unexpected Gathering were the stand out sets for me. Others like Council of Elrond were nice, but were too small to matter- rather than building large expensive uninspiring wall sets like black gate, and helms deep they'd used their large sets for the Balron scene, for Minas Tirith, or for a larger fully fledged Elrond scene then this series would easily have sold better to justify a third wave.
This is one of the few times where a theme has really been let down IMO by poor product planning and complete lack of inspiration at TLG. Give kids Balrons, Oliphants, and so forth and you'd have seen a much wider appeal. Things like the Pirate Ship Ambush would've been fine to keep if they'd been done in conjunction with the likes of an Oliphant, the Witch King and his Fell Beast as it would've allowed kids to pull off that final grand battle in all it's detail, but on it's own it was just a ship that you can't really play into anything else.
They could still pull off a 3rd wave if they bothered to put some effort and inspiration into it, but obviously they're not going to because presumably they don't have confidence in their ability to produce anything other than a few more overpriced walls which absolutely just would continue not to sell well.
I think rather than going all out they probably just played it way too cautiously and it was their caution that made it a flop in the first place. To have been bolder and produced three waves, each with a £150 - £200 set they could've really made it stand out as good as any other franchise has ever done.
You could've done Orthanc as the wave 1 £170 set, with the Balron scene as a £79.99 set and then kept some of the others they made under that. Make Helms Deep bigger, and sell it for £170 in the second year and an equally priced Minas Tirith in the 3rd year.
It just all felt very half-arsed, and that half-arsedness was responsible for it's failure to take off above all else.
It's sad but probably true, but I reckon most fans would be happy with a whole range of crappy little wall sections, if the minifigs were there. Faramir and Eowyn in front of a nondescript wall? I'd buy it. Denethor and a Gondor soldier in front of grey wall, same again. Witch King having a rest on a brown tree stump? Yes please.
and without a licence, it would have to be called something different.
Of course the real problem will be lack of the right Minifigs.
But maybe some of the Fans who do 3D ABS printing could come up with something?
#79006 --Council of Elrond is a lovely vignette, and we get the new arches for a unique elven look.
#9472 Weathertop was a clever compact representation of this central event.
#9473 Mines of Moria – Dwarven realm represented with runes had a good feel for this group
#9469 - Gandalf Arrives has the nod to the playful lighthearted beginning of the story.
#9470 Shelob Attacks – gives us a big brick built spider
#9474 – Helm’s Deep – This was a great build with lots of detail in the walls (Earling bricks and cheese slopes), curved walls and sand green accents.
#9476 – Orc Forge – my least favorite, but the light-up forge was fun and more orcs for the battle.
#79005 – Wizard Battle – small but gets the job done, and we get the eye of Sauron.
#79007 – Black Gate – get two and it looks pretty good.
#79008 – Pirate Ship Ambush. Meh. But love the Deadmen of Dunharrow.
#10237 - Orthanc – awesome.
Some complain about lack of battle packs – weren’t 9471 Uruk-hai Army and Mirkwood Elf Army really that, plus a wall? The walls were modular and could be combined to make a larger build.
The Hobbit sets' major flaw is that they are based on Peter Jackson's tortured version of the lovely tale about a Hobbit going on an adventure. Think about LEGO making the Hobbit in more of a Chima vibe. More imagination, less conflict, made up baddies and superelves.
#79000 Riddles for the Ring – the hiding place for the ring made it interesting for its size.
#79001 – Escape from Mirkwood Spiders – ok here we start falling apart, because WTF are elves doing in this scene. Drop the elves and give us a better tree.
#79002 – Attack of the Wargs – the tree is pretty fun build. Again we have PJ Yaznez taking up real estate. The wargs are great.
#79003 – Bagend! A major triumph in parts, technique, display value and figures.
#79004 – Barrel Escape – good build and fun action. Points for drunken elf.
#79010 – Goblin King - hot mess another fail on PJs back for making this rollercoaster ride scene.
#79011 – Dol Guldur Ambush – another PJ WTF moment. Although on rebuilding this the other day, it isn’t a bad build with some nice features. It just doesn’t have anything to do with Tolkien’s story. Beorn is a miss. He should have been Hagrid sized and with the combo head-hair, he is perpetually angry.
#79012 - Mirkwood Elf Army – Thranduil is awesome, more elves and I like the wall-tree build.
#79013 Lake Town Chase – Great figures and the town buildings are a success.
#79014 – Dol Buldur Battle – Worst use of a set slot for the theme. Again PJ’s fault since he made it (made it up) as a large element of the movie. As a build, it is pretty meh, we get a stupid Azog and a weird Necromancer that no one wants.
Instead of this we could have gotten Beorn’s farm. Animals serving dinner, bears circling the house at night. Bees. Beorn in man form transforming into bear form.
Brick warriors or brickforge, maybe. But not a Chinese one. That is not their way of working.