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Titles and prices of new Pirates sets leaked!

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  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 2,720
    Remember these are major prelim-y. Lacking the new parts/colour/prints that make the sets look, well... good.

    (More excited about the DC sets tbh).
    Shib
  • maniacmaniac Yorkshire, UKMember Posts: 786
    edited September 2014
    dougts said:

    Good catch. But they actually look dark red to me, which is WAY more exciting!!!

    There's also Sand Green(?) in the City set 60075!

    On topic though, the pirate ship doesn't look too bad but not sure about the others. Only prelim though.
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    edited September 2014
    ^I think those sand green parts were due for the castle based Fusion set/game ( #21205 : Battle Towers) so probably a case of using what was already being moulded.
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,936
    Printing is obviously not final, but looks like a good chance of the Bluecoats returning! Star Wars also looks like it could be promising, but that's another discussion...
    andhe
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Seattle, WAMember Posts: 799
    Basta said:

    They are all preliminary pics, on the Ninjago sets there is basically no faces and in one the minifigure holding a sword doesn't look ninjary at all, more city like.

    So good chance that some of these sets will look different once released.

    Looks like anything that still needs to be developed for the final layer of polish is not in included in the images. Hence why they are marked preliminary. In addition to missing faces, I didn't see any printing/stickers.

  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802

    Eeeeeek the soldiers outpost and fort look dreadful. Poor builds

    I liked the small shipwreck though

    (Also those elves sets, nice idea but urgh! They look horrendous)

    I can't believe so many people are criticizing the soldier's outpost and forts. These are some of the first such models NOT to use wall panels. Isn't that what AFOLs are supposed to like? That's at least the impression I got, given the "too many panels" whining that takes place every time a new LEGO castle is revealed. The one thing I think can be fairly criticized about teh Soldier's Fort is that it's rather small, compared to previous sets that depicted a similar subject.

    Treasure Island makes me nostalgic for the 90s Pirates sets I enjoyed as a kid, what with that beautiful brick-built skull.

    No sense whining about the sails and minifigures, as they're almost certainly going to change in the final product (much like the skull-patterned wings for Hawkman and Space Batman in the Justice League sets).

    I know some people dislike them, but I'm loving the brick-built palm trees. Now, granted, the old-school articulated palm trees were fantastic, but these have plenty of benefits of their own. They have connection points up and down the trunk so things like monkeys, minifigures, and (as seen in one set) frogs can climb them, and they're definitely a lot less specialized than the one-piece trunks used in the 4+ Pirates sets and even the 2009 Pirates theme.

    I don't plan on collecting these sets, but I see a lot to love, and I'm sure that many people will also warm up to them once we have finalized pictures.

    In the meantime, the Elves theme looks brilliant and I am tremendously excited to collect it — it has met and exceeded all of my expectations!
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,306
    edited September 2014
    I think that people are criticizing the Pirate line because LEGO does not appear to be putting any effort into the sets. I'm all for a few smaller sets, but it is seems like the only set with any real detail if the Pirate ship and it looks like the sails at the very least are going to be red and white (again) then yeah. LEGO could have done a much better job with the line IMO.

    I love the bulldozer being a more appropriate scale than the last, but at the same time, it looks a bit junior-ized, as well as many of the other sets shown. That worries me along with LEGOs increasing lack of QA on their parts and stickers, the poor job of sealing boxes-which allow thieves to pilfer the product, their growth of production and distribution of their product (again with poor QA), increasing prices, lock out of exclusive sales in the US and now the seemly increasing lack of detail in their sets.
    These signs point to what occurred in the late 90's if they are not careful IMO.
    nkx1
  • maniacmaniac Yorkshire, UKMember Posts: 786
    edited September 2014
    Shib said:

    ^I think those sand green parts were due for the castle based Fusion set/game ( #21205 : Battle Towers) so probably a case of using what was already being moulded.

    I was unaware of that Fusion set, thanks.

    As for the pirate sets, have to agree with @aanchir.
  • matticus_bricksmatticus_bricks Member Posts: 648
    So far the Pirate sets look to me like updated versions of the last Pirates themes, though the set design may be slightly improved. I like the little wooden wall on the Shipwreck Defense set.

    On a different note, though, I can honestly say I've never been more excited about any Lego sets than I am for the Elves sets. Look at all the colors! And those mini dolls are the first I actually like. And foliage parts in shades of purple? My life is complete.
    ShibAanchir
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,052
    Wow..if these images are what is to come this absolute Pirate fan is surely disappointed. They certainly do look like rehashes of the last Pirate release back in '09. Anyone know why most of the torsos in pics dont have any design? I'm just asking, LEGO may do this with everything at first or just this?

    At any rate, still something the OCD collector in me will have to buy a few of each set of; albeit begrudglingly along the way...
    madforLEGO
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734

    Anyone know why most of the torsos in pics dont have any design?

    The images are from the retailer catalog and not representative of the final sets.
  • klatu003klatu003 Hobbiton, Shire, Middle EarthMember Posts: 719
    The Fairy sets have some great parts. The scrolled fence parts in gold and lavender!! Also the hair with elf ears will work with regular minifigs.

    Pirates has lots of lady pirates without printed curves. Good job. (@tamamahm)

    "Let it go, let it goooooo" Frozen for Lego. That will cause some serious squeeing!

    I also like the new 3 in1 Creator building continuing the store theme.
    LostInTranslation
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    klatu003 said:

    Pirates has lots of lady pirates without printed curves. Good job. (@tamamahm)

    I'd be extremely surprised if the final prints don't have the typical curves.
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802

    Wow..if these images are what is to come this absolute Pirate fan is surely disappointed. They certainly do look like rehashes of the last Pirate release back in '09. Anyone know why most of the torsos in pics dont have any design? I'm just asking, LEGO may do this with everything at first or just this?

    Preliminary sets often use placeholder decorations or no decorations at all. The same thing is true of many of the Chima and Ninjago prototypes for next year. The final Pirates sets will probably use plenty of new decorations for the figs and sets.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,941
    klatu003 said:

    The Fairy sets have some great parts. The scrolled fence parts in gold and lavender!! Also the hair with elf ears will work with regular minifigs.

    Pirates has lots of lady pirates without printed curves. Good job. (@tamamahm)

    "Let it go, let it goooooo" Frozen for Lego. That will cause some serious squeeing!

    I also like the new 3 in1 Creator building continuing the store theme.


    I am not sure that the female pirates are done in those pictures. They look like placeholders, but yes, I did notice immediately what 'feels' like more females both in pirates, but also city. I am not a city fan, but the swamp sets look sweet, and feel like more females than the norm.

  • T_LarsT_Lars USAMember Posts: 104
    edited September 2014
    I'd just like to know what was so wrong with the palm trees in the older pirate sets. Is there any reason Lego has stopped producing them?

    ...(off topic, but) how is it that no one has once mentioned the porta potty set yet?
    plasmodium
  • matticus_bricksmatticus_bricks Member Posts: 648
    T_Lars said:


    ...(off topic, but) how is it that no one has once mentioned the porta potty set yet?

    I noticed that! Funny bit of humor that someone seems to have been using it when the truck takes it away!

    The photos seem to have been taken down. Oh well, at least we got a that nice little preview.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,306
    Aanchir said:

    Wow..if these images are what is to come this absolute Pirate fan is surely disappointed. They certainly do look like rehashes of the last Pirate release back in '09. Anyone know why most of the torsos in pics dont have any design? I'm just asking, LEGO may do this with everything at first or just this?

    Preliminary sets often use placeholder decorations or no decorations at all. The same thing is true of many of the Chima and Ninjago prototypes for next year. The final Pirates sets will probably use plenty of new decorations for the figs and sets.
    Even so, the latest LEGO sets look cheap and junior-ized IMO, final product or not, it cannot hide what appears to be the designers not doing a very good job.
  • iluvmyelementiluvmyelement Member Posts: 52

    T_Lars said:


    ...(off topic, but) how is it that no one has once mentioned the porta potty set yet?

    I noticed that! Funny bit of humor that someone seems to have been using it when the truck takes it away!

    The photos seem to have been taken down. Oh well, at least we got a that nice little preview.
    Not only have the pics been taken down - but on other boards any thread mentioning such pics are now taken down or wiped out.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,096

    Aanchir said:

    Wow..if these images are what is to come this absolute Pirate fan is surely disappointed. They certainly do look like rehashes of the last Pirate release back in '09. Anyone know why most of the torsos in pics dont have any design? I'm just asking, LEGO may do this with everything at first or just this?

    Preliminary sets often use placeholder decorations or no decorations at all. The same thing is true of many of the Chima and Ninjago prototypes for next year. The final Pirates sets will probably use plenty of new decorations for the figs and sets.
    Even so, the latest LEGO sets look cheap and junior-ized IMO, final product or not, it cannot hide what appears to be the designers not doing a very good job.
    Agreed. None of these sets look impressive from a creative stand point. In comparison the latest Chima wave is exceptional to anything here. Regarding the Pirates return: ho-hum. Lego outdid themselves with the Imperial Flagship. That was a set that took the Pirate theme to another level. This lot of mediocre sets provides nothing except part packs to MOCers.
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757

    T_Lars said:


    ...(off topic, but) how is it that no one has once mentioned the porta potty set yet?

    I noticed that! Funny bit of humor that someone seems to have been using it when the truck takes it away!

    The photos seem to have been taken down. Oh well, at least we got a that nice little preview.
    Not only have the pics been taken down - but on other boards any thread mentioning such pics are now taken down or wiped out.
    We've been discussing them at eurobricks for a couple days now...

    The company that takes these pics down are the same ones that allow them to get leaked in the first place....
  • Peter1975Peter1975 DeventerMember Posts: 165
    I just saw some pic's at: http://needlessessentialsonline.com/new-lego-2015-pirates-chima-ninjago-and-ultra-agents-first-images/#!prettyPhoto

    I doubt if these are real. Just look at the poor clothing of the soldiers. Overall the minifigs are poor. So I think it's one big fake.
    And if not, I won't buy!
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,592
    Peter1975 said:


    I doubt if these are real. Just look at the poor clothing of the soldiers. Overall the minifigs are poor. So I think it's one big fake.
    And if not, I won't buy!

    They are PRELIMINARY images, ones that were in the catalogue for distributors (toy stores) not intended for release to the general public. They rarely show the exact set, especially in the details of the minifigs. They are not fake, they are just not finalised as yet.
    yys4uandhemadforLEGO
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Seattle, WAMember Posts: 799
    edited September 2014
    Heh, the flat-top hairstyle is awful looking. Unless agents and ninjago are having a crossover...
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,052
    I dont understand why so much of what you see in the pictures are "placeholders"? If they are trying to market the item to the stores/distributors wouldnt everything be more colorful, marketable and just all around more complete?
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,592
    The idea is to show the rough size and style of the set.
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 2,720

    I dont understand why so much of what you see in the pictures are "placeholders"? If they are trying to market the item to the stores/distributors wouldnt everything be more colorful, marketable and just all around more complete?

    Although the designs are likely finalised, any new parts/colours/pieces are unlikely to have been manufactured in time for the retailers catalogue.

    If they waited for the design, then waited for the parts, then made the catalogue, then waited for the retailers to put their orders in... it would mean the final product would be sitting around and not being sold ie not making money (this is my limited understanding of the process). To make the most money, they want the shortest time between design, manufacturing and sales.

    I'm guessing LEGO is a reputable enough brand that retailers know what they're getting and know it will sell, so as mentioned above, it's just to give the retailers a rough idea of the size and content of the set.


  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,052
    I still think they look sub par and here is one vote hoping that they really up their game with the real thing!
    madforLEGOT_Lars
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734

    I still think they look sub par and here is one vote hoping that they really up their game with the real thing!

    If previous years' preliminary images are any indication, the builds themselves won't change much, if at all. The minifigures and any new molds are generally the only things that change.

    Also, I noticed the Juniors pirate set wasn't among the images at the link that had compiled all the images. As expected, it wasn't anything impressive; a peg-leg pirate in a boat (2551), a shark, and a small "island" with a bit of wall, treasure, and a skeleton.
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802


    Even so, the latest LEGO sets look cheap and junior-ized IMO, final product or not, it cannot hide what appears to be the designers not doing a very good job.

    I disagree entirely. Did I not mention that the Imperial outposts use no single-piece wall panels? In that respect, they're LESS juniorized than a lot of other Pirates sets since... well, since the theme began. Likewise, the newest dragon in the Ninjago sets has an elaborate brick-built head rather than a specialized head mold like the 2011 to 2013 Ninjago dragons did. How is that "juniorized"?

    I'm not saying I'm thrilled with all the sets. But not because they look cheap or juniorized, certainly.
    Bumblepants
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,306
    1x4x5 panels do not make a set look junior-ized. Far from it, unless they are using said panels and putting window stickers or something on them, I can see that being junior-ized. However, I can see LEGO using 1x4x5 panels for sets and not being junior-ized (heck two of the most popular train stations use them and they are by no means 'junior-ized') but many of these 'new' sets appear to look cheap, tiny, and uninspired compared to even the last line of Pirate (which this basically looks like a rehash of the last line, but smaller sets). One ship in this release, and that looks more like a pirate ship ambush set than a black seas barracuda tells me they are cutting back as well. Never mind the lack of creativity to use something OTHER than red and white stripe sails, which has been overdone. This implies what they are going to do is re-use sails from an older set, and even if they are 'new' they choose a scheme already used on two other ships instead of doing something with even black and white strips or yellow and white stripes.. or even all white sails... I mean come on LEGO.
    Let me ask this: What would you rather have? A #6285 or this new ship coming out?
    Id rather have the Black Seas Barracuda.
    Heck I'd rather have the #6243 Brickbeards bounty and #6242 Soldier fort, which is a really stripped down version of #6276 Eldorado Fortress, than what appears to be the new 'fort' coming out.
    Will I buy the ship? Probably as I am collecting them, but I'm not really awestruck with these as apparently some people are, sorry.

    Do I applaud them for releasing a new Pirate line? Sure, but the sets are just sorely lacking IMO in design and creativity and it just appears the designers 'phoned it in' with many of them, including for some of the SW and City sets as well.
    But for Pirate, considering they did PoTC you think they could do these a bit better. It just looks like they threw them together just in time to get them out.(and yes I am aware they are not the final photos but you cannot hide what appears to be lack of creativity in the sets basics)
    nkx1pharmjodT_Lars
  • nkx1nkx1 Member Posts: 719
    edited September 2014
    ^I agree with this. After releasing the most recent pirate ships #10210 IF, #4184 BP and #4195 QAR (all of which I bought), the new ship is an absolute letdown and looks quite cheap. I doubt I'll be buying it. The other sets are also way too juniorized for my taste (just my opinion, obviously).

    I'm just theorizing here of course, but it seems like Lego releases so many sets now that they can't/don't put the amount of effort necessary into making any one set great (there are some exceptions, of course). The net result is that instead of having a lesser number of sets that are great, we have a greater number of sets that are crappy.

    I guess the benefit here (to me at least) is that I can spend less time/money building with Lego, and can spend more time doing other stuff (with a tad more money in my pocket).
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802

    Never mind the lack of creativity to use something OTHER than red and white stripe sails, which has been overdone. This implies what they are going to do is re-use sails from an older set, and even if they are 'new' they choose a scheme already used on two other ships instead of doing something with even black and white strips or yellow and white stripes.. or even all white sails... I mean come on LEGO.

    I have a feeling that NONE of the parts in the Pirates set pics have their finished decorations, and that includes the sails. As I said previously, they're probably no more finalized than the wings in the Super Heroes sets that are cut from skull-patterned pirate flags.

    Usually when I hear the term "juniorized", people are using it to refer to big, specialized parts like wall panels that they feel should have been replaced with smaller and less specialized parts, so that was the reason for my confusion. I don't personally think that wall panels like that are juniorized, but it seems to be a common refrain every time a new LEGO Castle set comes out — too many wall panels, not enough creative brickwork.
  • VaderXVaderX Member Posts: 220
    Only one way to make them up their game... Don't buy them.

    As long as people are buying sets no matter what just simply because it is a Lego product this will never stop.

    There is a reason quality and effort have gone down hill the last two years.

    The sets sell out with little effort.

    nkx1
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802
    VaderX said:

    Only one way to make them up their game... Don't buy them.

    As long as people are buying sets no matter what just simply because it is a Lego product this will never stop.

    There is a reason quality and effort have gone down hill the last two years.

    The sets sell out with little effort.

    I dislike this "people are sheep" mentality, and it doesn't seem consistent with what I've seen. After all, part of why LEGO got themselves into such a bad fix in the late 90s and early naughts was that their design quality was slipping, resulting in themes like Rock Raiders and UFO whose sets were mostly made up of a few huge, specialized parts. And part of how the LEGO Group got back on their feet in the mid- to late naughts, and became the most successful toy company in the world, was by hiring designers who actually cared about and understood the brand and what it stands for, as well as releasing sets that emphasized complexity and detail rather than quick, effortless builds. Seems to me that LEGO has gotten to where they are through appealing to a discerning audience, not through relying on mindless fans who would buy LEGO no matter what it looks like.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,096
    Aanchir, I think you're missing what people are saying. These Pirate sets are boring. No inspiration. By the numbers, formulaic. Recycled. At least the Rock Raiders and UFO sets look somewhat inspired even if they used simple building techniques. I'll take a few wall panels if they are incorporated into a creative design over small pieces assembled into a boring design.
    T_Larsyys4umadforLEGO
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,708
    I can see the formulaic/recycled line of thinking. But the majority of the 2015 Pirates sets will be bought by/for 5-11 year old boys who have no memory or knowledge of any previous Pirate lines (ok maybe PotC on the high end of the age bracket). They won't care about similarities between this ship and that one or which fort looks like what fort. They will just look at it and either say "Awesome! Pirates!" or "Eh, I want ChimjagoHeroWars instead".
    yys4u
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Seattle, WAMember Posts: 799
    Since the original pirates were only just coming out as I went in to my dark ages, we will probably get all of these considering how much my daughter loves jake and the Neverland pirates!
  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,873
    I also think you are assuming that just because LEGO pulled themselves up by the boot straps and turned things around in the last 10 years they won't dare make the same mistakes again. Well, it appears that to at least a few on this board and elsewhere that they are making similar if not the same mistakes. I know personally I would much rather have a smaller number of higher quality sets than 687 sets from 2014 alone.

    I mean give me a break. 687 sets in 1 year? I have been to restaurants that have a vast menu where much of the food is simply mediocre at best. There are a few standout dishes, but generally nothing is stellar. I have also been to restaurants where their menu is anemic by comparison to the others with the gigantic menu. However, I have often found that the quality of every dish I try at those with a more focused menu tends to be much higher than those at the other restaurants. I know personally I would be much happier if LEGO took all those passionate designers and told them we are going to make between 300-400 sets this year and we are going to try to make each and every one special. Or, at a minimum make even the mediocre / average sets pretty special and make the good ones exceptional.

    I think LEGO does a pretty good job at making the great, larger sets. It really is the middling sized sets that seem to be lacking anymore. Only time will tell if LEGO is actually making decisions that will ultimately have a negative effect on business.
    dougtsnkx1madforLEGO
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802
    Considering that they're the first pirates sets in five or six years, I think a back-to-basics approach is kind of necessary. A lot of the kids these sets will be aimed at have never owned a Pirates set, after all. They've never had a LEGO pirate ship, or imperial fort, or a raft, or a treasure island, and so a theme that failed to deliver on those basics of the theme would be woefully incomplete. And personally, I love some of what I see in the sets.

    That skull on #70411 brings up lots of nostalgia for #6248 Volcano Island from my own childhood. I know that skull design was used on several sets, and I loved it. I never entirely felt that any later brick-built skulls like it were quite able to measure up... until this one. It's a huge improvement over #6241 Loot Island, one of the few 2009 Pirates sets I own personally.

    The foundation of #70410 Soldiers' Outpost looks really beautiful and detailed, as do the walls. Sadly, the raft doesn't measure up to the one in #6240 Kraken Attackin' (nor does the name). But the addition of a tattered sail is nice.

    The pirate ship in #70143 seems to have all the essentials of a LEGO pirate ship and then some. Its piece count leads me to believe that it might boast some considerable interior detail as well, since it's a far higher piece count than #6243 Brickbeard's Bounty.

    #70412 Soldiers' Fort has an exciting shape that looks like it wraps around a harbor. It's not as big as #6242 but it's still classy-looking with its very vertical build. I feel like it could result in some exciting play scenarios. The new palm trees look great, and I just noticed they're attached to some of the sets via Mixels ball cups — clever!

    And of course, #70409 is a brilliantly executed concept for an impulse set. Even if you put #6239 Cannon Battle and #8397 Pirate Survival (the two sets that best fit this set's play scenario) together, I don't think you'd come up with something nearly this elegant.

    Overall, I think there's a lot to love about these sets. No, they're not new subject matter for the Pirates theme, but I think they're well-executed. The biggest disappointment for me, looking at these sets in more detail? Well, the raft in #70410, but besides that... no monkeys! There's even a banana in #70411, mercilessly teasing all the monkeys that can't have it because they don't come in this wave. I hope that might change in the final sets, and we'll get at least one monkey.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,096
    ^ Just curious if you were excited about the 2013 Castle refresh? To me this new Pirate theme is about as un-inspired.
    dougtsVaderXicey117
  • nkx1nkx1 Member Posts: 719
    Aanchir said:

    ...I think they're well-executed.

    That's probably the fundamental disagreement here. Some people think they're great sets, others think they leave much to be desired (including me).

    Along the lines of what VaderX stated, people will vote with their wallets. I'll be voting with mine (not that it'll mean much).
    VaderX
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,125
    I wouldn't call the sets juniorized really. They're just small. A couple of them seem to be almost duplicative (two shipwreck masts?). Why not make the soldier fort in the mid price range? Nothing was done in that price point at all. At least make it joinable to the smaller outpost. Maybe they are, but I don't recall getting that impression

    Nothing inherently wrong or bad about the lineup. Just somewhat uninspired I guess
    hewman
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802
    mathew said:

    ^ Just curious if you were excited about the 2013 Castle refresh? To me this new Pirate theme is about as un-inspired.

    Well, depends what you mean by "excited". I did not have any pressing desire to collect the theme any more than I have a pressing desire to collect this one. My budget for next year is eaten up by more story-driven themes like BIONICLE, Ninjago, and quite possibly Elves (that theme is looking AMAZING). But yes, I also thought that theme had some great designs and I didn't entirely understand the amount of disdain there was for it.

    Granted, the 2013 Castle sets didn't have quite so much of an excuse for their back-to-basics approach than this theme did, since less time had passed between Kingdoms and Castle than between 2009 Pirates and 2015 Pirates. But honestly, some of the criticisms of the 2013 Castle sets are part of why I'm puzzled about the criticisms for these Pirates sets, since as I mentioned, a lot of the biggest criticisms seemed to be centered around the number of prefab wall panels in #70404 King's Castle (which was, in and of itself, not extraordinary for a LEGO Castle theme).
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,941
    I suspect some of the criticism is related to what dougts mentioned. The mid-price range is lacking.

    On the flip, Treasure Island and Soldier's Outpost would be fun together and provide playability for a 4-7 year old.

    I am wondering if they are focusing the sets at a younger age, and thus are going with the lower price points and smaller sets. Sets better for that age range to build. They may have data to indicate that older kids are not going for pirates.
    What I would want or my son would want would be that larger island at a $60 price tag, with a cool bridge and special features. Perhaps a larger fort, with a prison and cool features (not unlike the size of the last fort or bigger) With the mid-price range missing, they are missing something in terms of playability.

    Looking at the past pirate sets, I think it was the bases on the older sets that really did lend to the pirate theme, though, in creating some larger looking sets. Those looked fun. Without those bases, it seems harder to get the scope they used to have.

    I will say, though, Loot island is analogous to Treasure Island. Loot Island is one of my very top sets for great price point and a ton of playability. The 'island' part of Loot Island we have had a ton of usage out of, and is currently being used to create a mermaid island. Because of that I'm having a hard time getting behind Treasure island, despite it having many similar features.


    I'm mainly with doubts on this one, while I'm disappointed in the line for what I know my son would have wanted, overall the line is not inherently good/bad, but just missing those mid-range sets. Soldier's fort is my exception. That one is just looking like a hot mess to me in the prelim pics.
  • ZeyaZeya Member Posts: 36
    tamamahm said:


    I'm mainly with doubts on this one, while I'm disappointed in the line for what I know my son would have wanted, overall the line is not inherently good/bad, but just missing those mid-range sets. Soldier's fort is my exception. That one is just looking like a hot mess to me in the prelim pics.

    On the point of lacking mid-sized sets, I do wonder if there will be a "store exclusive" for this wave, that we haven't seen leaked information on. In 2009, this set was Shipwreck Hideout
    http://brickset.com/sets/6253-1/Shipwreck-Hideout

    From my casual observations, the store exclusives tend to be right in the middle of the part count or price range. Here's hoping... But with sets this small, a mid-sized exclusive set would be pretty tiny as well, probably something around 200 pieces to fit in with these 5 new sets. :(
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,941
    I was hoping that maybe a second pirate wave might have larger sets. A store exclusive would be nice. I came in right at the end of the last Pirates wave, so bought loot island, but had not seen Shipwreck Hideout at that time. I debated buying Soldier's Fort back then, but went with Lavatraz from Power Miner's. That really was the best choice for us. Even now, we would love to have more power miners.
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