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If an add-on were offered that was basically a glorified battle pack (e.g. #75014) with a couple tables in alcoves and a few of the more well-known aliens and others (e.g. BoShek, Kabe, the Devaronian whose apostrophe-laden name I refuse to acknowledge by typing here, Momaw Nadon, Muftak, Ponda Baba, the "Tonnika Sisters", Wuher), it would probably sell like hotcakes. If not to kids then to AFOLs and Star Wars fans.
A cynical view perhaps, but I fear it may not be too far from the truth.
But the tide changed significantly with the Disney acquisition and announcement of a new sequel trilogy. Thereby reviving the entire franchise and license making them current, desireable with lots of future potential for all involved i.e. Consumers, toy makers, licensees, marketers, etc. Before it was just the OT, PT and CW which was enough to spawn countless sets and characters. Now thrown into the mix will be Yoda Chronicles, Rebels, the new Trilogy and pending solo-character movies.
So for those bothered by the large emphasis TLG puts on the SW themes, I have bad news for you. It's about to get titanically worse and it's inevitable.
I don't for a minute think that designers set out to limit themselves with a view to trying again in a few years. I susspect the limits come down from heigher ups, price points are identified, peice counts are set and minifigure numbers and new part costs are added in and these things impact the final designs more that anything.
As for the line being tiered, not a bit of it and don't think for a minute that the people that signed that 10 year extension back in 12 didn't know that the Disney deal was coming down the road, that was the reason they signed a 10 year deal. Now it's here as @brickdancer says it is about to go epic, movies, animation, TV shows and everything Inbetween. I'm willing to bet that 400 set number doubles in the next 10 years and more than likely be renewed for another 10 in 2022.
I am hoping that we will now face a plateau of how Minifigures are designed, which would be logical as I cannot say printing techniques improving much for a few years now. I would prefer LEGO to steer clear of side leg printing and the like as that would be a little too much detail in my opinion, so I think where we are right now is a good balance between accurate Minifigures to the source material, while also retaining the feel of classic LEGO for the most part.
The Cantina is something I've been waiting for a re-release for awhile, and with a Dewback to boot!
Maybe I have used some artistic licence on that statement ;)
"So, this is just a rumor at this point, I have no way of verifying it, however
someone very reliable from Denmark emailed me that there is going to be a re-release
of the UCS Millennium Falcon either at the end of 2014 or early 2015.
He wasn't sure if it was going to be exactly the same as the previous release
(I think that's unlikely, but you never know with LEGO) or a new design,
but it was going to be an UCS set similar to this: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?S=10179-1
I thought this might be useful info for sellers who have been listing this set
and also buyers who would like the set but don't have thousands of dollars
to shell out for the discontinued model. Again, take this with a grain of salt
as I can't varify the info at this point, but it is something to keep in
If it is true than great, but it could just be an attempt to encourage a few more UCS Falcons out of storage and onto ebay and therefore bring the price down a bit (not me, I don't own one).
For what it's worth.
*Sh*ts in pants*
Maybe he wants one cheap and is looking to see the current prices tumble as people offload in a firesale. Or he’s looking to buy a shedload of grey levers, radar dished and grey rigging from bricklink, before saying “suckers” and doubling the price of those parts on his own bricklink store. How much would one of these (or a very similar variant) be now, with a similar piece count? A solid £500/$700/E600 I would hazard a guess at. Perhaps more if they manage to make a nice interior without compromising the frame strength. That would smash the current price barriers.
There was a similar rumour going around about a while back for early 2014 release, before we knew about the Disney buyout of Lucasfilm. A redo of the UCS MF won’t be your typical toy bought for little Timmy after seeing EP7 – not at that pricepoint. I’d like to see a redo of UCS ISD before any other redo (I’d prefer to see some completely new stuff first though, that’s never had the UCS treatment). Saying all that though, if they can do it for #41999, there’s every possibility for TLG to bang out a 20000 unit limited edition run that would see another “excellent adventure” across the UK and maybe beyond. I doubt Disney’s influence will have much interference with the UCS line, it’s a specialist area of the Lego world that kids rarely get in on.
I’m sure there are people her “in the know” that would hear before that fella if it were true.
Another thing to bear in mind is what would lego replace them with (if anything?). Some people say Lego have stopped doing space themes because they conflict with SW - although they have still managed to have GS and AC recently as one year themes.
It is a plain fact - SW sells. Remember that many people making purchasing decisions now were kids when SW came out originally (whether 1970's/80's or 2000's). Would they come up with something that is going to fill that "easy sell" gap for the next ten years? The only thing likely to rival it is Star Trek (done by other manufacturers) and all the spin-offs / later series.
LOTR was a big franchise for the 2000s, yet it seems that the popularity of that has not lead to a consistent well selling line. It also doesn't tread on the toes of SW, meaning the two can co-exist.
Plus, what better way for Lego to throw a wrench into the hated reseller market than by attacking what has become the epitome of all Lego reselling?
Lego are in the business of making money for themselves, and at the time #10179 was not a big seller for them, they stayed on the shelves gathering dust. We are Lego fanatics with some disposable income. Plenty of us here that would pay £500 for one, but your average potential Lego shopper wouldn’t be buying these in droves and probably are unaware of the old one’s existence.
If they dropped 20,000 #10179s on the market tomorrow as a limited edition, most would get bought by resellers, not by people wanting to get that box open and build it. Put 100,000 out there and don’t limit the availability and you’d probably find magnitudes less demand, with resellers only piling in when they thought that retirement would soon be on its way
A far better system effort around the £170/$250 with around 2300-2500 parts and a playable interior is more likely to have the kind of mass appeal/sales they would want to tie into EP7 – not too rich for the kiddies to get one for Christmas/Birthday. 5 years is not a long time for a redo of a system set, but so far we’ve only had one UCS redo and that took 13 (?) years.
People that will buy now will likely be mostly resellers trying to make a score, which likely will not happen if it is a regular release and runs for 4 years.
Maybe the the UCS falcon is really what is taking the DS's place on in the pricing slot.
If so, will there be fans? Sure but how many people really are buying a DS compared to all LEGO purchases?
But I can see LEGO removing the DS for a while and just leaving a UCS falcon available for anyone that wants one for 4 years, then switch back to an improved DS.
You will know when the set is official because you will a load of #10179 on eBay being sold.
Flash forward to today, and now it's a proven fact that many people are willing to pay $400 for a set (DS, SSD). So, there certainly is a market, even for a set with as little playability as #10179 had, which is not a whole lot more or less than the SSD offers.
I know I would buy a re-released one in a heartbeat at $500 because of the set that it is, not because it would have resale potential.
As I said; take this with a grain of salt. We have heard other rumors before from very reliable sources that didn't turn out to be correct; like all the set names and numbers of The Simpsons sets that never materialized. Well, at least not so far...
However if you are a seller or a buyer this is something to keep in mind and look out for. I'm not saying start selling all your UCS Falcons, just maybe keep an eye out for any further info that may surface. The source said end of 2014/beginning of 2015, so I would say that by the summer we should know something.
The Sandcrawler is the next large set that is supposed to be released (as far as I know), so if the MF turns out to be true, I think 2015 sounds more reasonable for another large set.
I don't think resellers are at a big risk right now. Most of the public learns about new sets when they get released, or maybe just before they get released. So resellers have plenty of time to adjust their strategies if this information turns out to be true.
One other interesting piece of info the original source said that I forgot to mention on BrickLink is that according to him the re-release is a direct response from LEGO seeing the prices the Falcon is selling for on the secondary market. They think it is crazy. If this is indeed true, it could put the entire strategy of holding large sets for years to resell them later at risk. Actually it is already happening with SW; all the sets and minifigs that have been re-released made the prices of the original sets plummet as most people would want the newer versions. Only hard-core collectors (which is a much smaller number) would be willing to shell out big bucks for an old set with a mostly inferior design.
Again, this info is something to keep your eyes on. That's all. Oh, and I'm not in the market to buy a Falcon, nor am I selling one...(c;
And btw, some of those old sets with inferior designs actually have better (stronger, denser) elements than are available today. Sometimes they really don't make 'em like they used to.
If true, the big question now is whether TLG will make it has cheap as possible by cutting on development costs and releasing a pure copy of the original or will they present us with a new version? Either way, I’ll be here to give them my money!
Re: sales of #10240, I'd be interested to see the sales figures for it and other UCS sets. However, I'd guess that it has more to do with the large volume of current, and discontined, SW sets now available. It's become almost impossible to own them all, and it's getting to a point where sets are competing against themselves (if that makes any sense!).