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Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

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  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,874
    I think you're right @TheLoneTensor. I suspect even if there is a final wave of LOTR sets though, there won't be a set with more than 1 Ringwraith. Probably the Witch King would be all we would see, in which case the set should still do ok. It is a fun little set to be sure.
    Yellowcastle
  • Pate5346Pate5346 Member Posts: 752
    So my guess If you can get the set at half price it should do fine, than.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,374
    What set half price? Weathertop? Hasn't been sold out for months now?
  • Pate5346Pate5346 Member Posts: 752
    @Pitfall69 yes you're right just re-checked it and I've mixed it up. It's early morning over here and I should go to bed.
    Pitfall69
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    I still find Weathertops. They are in the wild.
    FollowsClosely
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    ^ Yup, that will be the determining factor.
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 949
    My tru has a pile of wt still.
  • BrickarmorBrickarmor USAMember Posts: 1,257
    The fact that they were ~$40 for a while and in several places made me get a lot (a LOT) more of them than I would have otherwise. I had planned to raise the price of my Ringwraiths after Xmas, forgot, and somebody cleaned me out about two weeks ago.
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    Also, they may have a Ringwraith poly. That would sure hurt the resell price of WT too.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,876
    ^A ringwraith poly? I don't think we've ever seen a horse in a poly. That would be something to behold.
    pharmjod
  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,874
    That would tank the price of Weathertop. I have maybe 8 of them but would unload immediately if I saw actual news of a poly.
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    I've sold the last of my #8043, good timing as #42030 sounds VERY similar.
  • stevemackstevemack 1567km Drive From BillundMember Posts: 889
    They wouldn't release the same set so soon, there's rumours of it being lots of things :)
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    edited January 2014
    ^Remote control trench digger (with actuators) sounds like #8043 to me.

    I was hoping #42030 would be a giant RC backhoe/loader. If #42030 is an excavator then #42006 probably won't do that well EOL.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,701
    edited January 2014
    pharmjod said:

    I think you're right @TheLoneTensor. I suspect even if there is a final wave of LOTR sets though, there won't be a set with more than 1 Ringwraith. Probably the Witch King would be all we would see, in which case the set should still do ok. It is a fun little set to be sure.

    cloaked7 said:

    Also, they may have a Ringwraith poly. That would sure hurt the resell price of WT too.


    If they make further LOTR sets (which is by no means assured) I don't see why they would redo the ringwraith. There are enough scenes missing without needing to go back and do another ringwraith scene. As noted by @pharmjod, the Witch King might make sense if him vs Eowyn in a set, but not another normal ringwraith. I also doubt they'd do a ringwraith plus horse in a poly, especially as licensed polys tend to support current / slightly future sets, not past ones.

    I got my nine (well, 12 of them as I ended up with some spares as someone was selling them cheap on BL). I'll happily sell off the extra ones if we get a Witch King.
    cardgenius
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    From brickfan: "Smaug will be a similar size to the dragon in the Dragon Mountain (70403) set. The Witch King will also make an appearance and will glow in the dark. Elrond makes a return and looks similar to the polybag version from the LOTR game pre-order bonus." I'm guessing the Witch King hints at future lotr sets.
  • doriansdaddoriansdad CTCMember Posts: 1,337
    JamesJT said:

    ^Remote control trench digger (with actuators) sounds like #8043 to me.

    I was hoping #42030 would be a giant RC backhoe/loader. If #42030 is an excavator then #42006 probably won't do that well EOL.

    I thought 42030 was the Volvo L350F frontloader? The pic of that set has been out for a few weeks now. Completely different from an excavator. Am I missing something?
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    edited January 2014
    ^@Huw reports that it has huge wheels so it can't be like 8043, maybe it a big #8265 instead.
  • doriansdaddoriansdad CTCMember Posts: 1,337
    edited January 2014
    It has no watermark but not sure if this is allowed but this is the technic flagship 42030 model for 2014:

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  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    So from now on the flagships will be remakes after remakes?
  • doriansdaddoriansdad CTCMember Posts: 1,337
    I wonder if this will be available at Target and Walmart in the USA?
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 949
    That set looks like a buy to me.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited January 2014
    Something tells me that picture is indeed watermarked, and that it was strategically cropped to get that fuzzy picture of the set shown on the ipad.
    cheshirecatMathBuilderLegoboyLostInTranslation
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    Somewhere theres confusion, as the one posted by @Doriansdad would be a front loader/bulldozer and would have big wheels. A volvo trench digger would either be tracked or have small wheels and would look much like 8043 but with a smaller bucket.

    madforLEGO
  • vaspvasp USAMember Posts: 73

    I wonder if this will be available at Target and Walmart in the USA?

    All these days TRU was the only other option for technic. Now walmart and tgt already have technic sets and will probably get all of them. TRU can no longer say exclusive on their pages for technic sets.

    FollowsClosely
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,328
    vitreolum said:

    So from now on the flagships will be remakes after remakes?

    I do not see how this is a remake if it is a front loader that is RC. The last front loader was not.
    I get that the design is used before, but they already have a RC Bulldozer and RC Excavator, and Dump trucks are apparently not exciting enough for LEGO as a flagship, so you have this one. Which looks much bigger scale than the last Front loader IMO
    Though this is no 'trenchdigger'
    From what I have seen on Volvo's site, a trench digger has wheels and looks like an excavator. Good grief I hope it is not that.
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    edited January 2014
    Looks the same type of vehicle me... Even if it's bigger and improved, there's a lot of stuff out there to make. I'd rather see something else that was not done before as a flagship.
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    edited January 2014
    ^see what fans can do with technic...
    http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/20213
    http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/56671
    Or even (shamless plug)... http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/49298

    #42029 is (yet another) 4WD truck, I've still got #8081s in the loft.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,876
    ^How about another Technic Shuttle with fiber optics? That said, how about ANYTHING with fiber optics...
    pharmjod
  • DaraghDaragh IrelandMember Posts: 363
    I still think that for it's time the Shuttle was the best Technic set and is still well up there, nothing to challenge in the last few waves.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited January 2014
    ^ C'mon, the shuttle was good, but with the exception of #9398 *, every recent Technic flagship has been stellar. Each has room for improvement (as per the awesome mod upgrades that exist), but even with the base models, the engineering is relatively phenomenal for a plastic toy.

    *Exonerated by #41999
    sidersddFollowsClosely
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    edited January 2014
    The new 42030 Volvo Front Loader uses Unimog Tires with new Yellow wheels(same size as the Unimog, but they are the newer 6 hole type)...

    The 42029 brings back the 5 x 11 red panels(a lot of them) so if you are sitting on any of them or have a high price on them, it's time unload them...
    TXLegoguy
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    edited January 2014
    prevere said:

    ^A ringwraith poly? I don't think we've ever seen a horse in a poly. That would be something to behold.

    Yeah, I agree. But, IF the set did come in a poly it would be awesome. If not a poly, maybe a small set similar to a SW Battle Pack? Now, that would be even better than awesome. Ginormous! :-) And, then a Uruk-hai Battle Pack. There could be some awesome LOTR and Hobbit Battle Packs. The things that dreams are made of. :-)

  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    Yup, a Frontend Loader as a Flagship Technic set would be Ginormous too! :-)
    TXLegoguy
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Yes, but this is More Ginormous!

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    TXLegoguy
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Then of course, it gets bigger than that! :)

    image
    TXLegoguy
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Then you have the Front End Loader that is to scale with the above two images of the Dump Truck:

    image
    TXLegoguy
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    One more image, again for scale... some of these pieces of equipment are huge, so big they are shipped in parts and actually built on site, many of them will never leave, they'll be left on site forever, never to be moved again from their initial location.

    image
    TXLegoguy
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    edited January 2014
    he he. Yup, it is a tad bit ironic. Just a tad... To call a LEGO set GINORMOUS! Course TLG can have ginormous ideas. Like LOTR Battle Sets.
  • StryfeStryfe Member Posts: 10
    edited January 2014
    Hi all,

    The flagship set for technics this year is indeed a Volvo set, I just saw this a couple of days ago in a retailer catalog

    It has no watermark but not sure if this is allowed but this is the technic flagship 42030 model for 2014:


  • StryfeStryfe Member Posts: 10
    Oops, just saw crowkiller's post
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    edited January 2014
    The small summer set is a nice little yellow bulldozer with a cleverly designed front blade and a V4 engine...
  • Thanos75Thanos75 Member Posts: 1,117
    I bought a collection last year and the Technic Shuttle was in it. The set had been built and torn back down and was still in the original box. One day I was bored and thought I would give it a go.....about 25% complete and it hit me that I'm not really a Technic set fan. So I took it back apart and put it back in its box.
  • jadedancjadedanc USAMember Posts: 1,303
    @Thanos75 you can send it my way :)
    Pitfall69margot
  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633
    @LegoFanTexas yes we got it you are from Texas ;)
    Pitfall69LegoFanTexas
  • Thanos75Thanos75 Member Posts: 1,117
    I would have no problem trading it.
  • BastaBasta Australia Member Posts: 1,259
    @LegoFanTexas thats not big, this is big!!
    image
    SuperTrampLegoFanTexasprevere
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,128
    ^ I can just hear you saying that in your Paul Hogan voice

    "That's not a knife...THAT's a knife"
    Bastakhmellymelprevere
  • SuperTrampSuperTramp City 17Member Posts: 1,021
    Basta said:

    @LegoFanTexas thats not big, this is big!!
    image

    Bagger 288 would have made great Decepticon
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Holy mother of mary that thing is big...

    It must be in Texas! :)
    TXLegoguy
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