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I don't think the dollar value of a gift means much. When my son really wants something I usually make him do extra work for it. He brought the trash cans and recycling bins in for months in order to get Skylanders swap force when it came out. I just don't really get the money issue of a gift. I think spoiling is more buying kids whatever they want the second they demand it, think Veruca Salt..
I am an attorney and my wife is a pediatrician and we can afford it, but the judging stuff drives me nuts. I have a cousin who, at every holiday, tells me about how easy I have it because of my job and income and how spoiled my kids are compared to his. However, I was the one who studied in high school while he was getting suspended. I was the one who got into a good undergraduate school and studied while he was goofing around as a bartender. I was the one who studied for the LSAT and got into law school and took out a bunch of loans while he really had no direction. And I was the one that graduated and passed the bar exam. That was not given to me, I worked extremely hard for it. I refuse to apologize for it. Some people think that others have it "Easy" but they don't know what it takes to get you there in the first place.
I apologize for the tirade, but kids are not spoiled merely because they receive nice things from their parents. So long as they appreciate the effort and hard work it takes, there is nothing wrong with it.
Again, just my opinion. I'll get off my soapbox and get back to bricks ;)
It all comes down to how I want to channel and funnel my funds.
I think the X-Wing UCS 7191 might be on record for one of the big drops in price following a second edition release. I sold one a few years ago for $600 loose. Going price now $150-$200, and at peak Xmas time. A sealed one recently sold for $449.
Anyway, back on topic, any thoughts on #8110? I managed to grab one on Amazon recently at 27% off; my options are to either build it or hold onto it for 12 months and see what happens....
My point is....not enough Lego sets. :D I'm correcting that mistake for my little girl. If that makes her spoiled, at least she's using her imagination about how cool she thinks she is.
IMO I think it will go up once it is finally EOL (which should be occurring soon based on the way things look) only because of the price point, it being a TRU 'exclusive' (all Technic sets are I believe) and TRU stopping most Technic sets from being BOGO50 or part of any deal for the past year now. But since TRU likely still has stocks of Unimogs (and so does LEGO I believe, but on backorder) I think it will take a bit of time. Im guessing it will be around the same growth as the Excavator, which had more stock and was on sale A LOT but is more desirable.
Im debating on getting more Catwoman chase sets. I know everyone will have a ton of them but still I see them rising in price.
In any case it seems to be selling out in Europe but the US still has stocks of it at LEGO and TRU. And LEGO US went from sold out to call for availability to being available.
As many have noted, context is everything. In the abstract, I don't think anyone can unequivocally say that a $400 LEGO set is "spoiling." Growing up, I fondly recall always asking for one "big" LEGO set every Christmas, and Grandma and Grandpa always delivered. It was a really meaningful gift for me, and it was often the only "big" toy that I got. Sets included at least the Black Seas Barracuda which was I believe a $100 set when it came out. (Also Kings Castle, the Blacktron Base, and some big City sets.) With inflation, those sets are around $200 now. Were my grandparents spoiling me? Sure, but it was a rare once-a-year gift that was coupled with many many many stories from my grandfather about growing up as the child of Italian immigrants during the Depression in Brooklyn, living in the back of the candy store and going to college based solely on a combination of really hard work and luck. THAT was what I have taken away from my grandparents. Grandpa enjoying buying his grandson a toy he really wanted -- and having the means to do so -- was every bit his right to enjoy.
Also, as far as toys and gifts go, LEGO really isn't all that bad. There is an educational component, and I can pretty confidently say that it helped shape my interests and focus to lead me to my current career. (Said grandpa also did the same in a different way.)
It will be a struggle to figure out what balance I want to strike with my daughter. I've already stockpiled quite a few sets for her, but the challenge will be to figure out how and when to give them. Do I wait for holidays/birthdays? Or pull them out on a rainy day from time to time? I'll have to sort that all out, but it is between me, my wife, and my daughter to do so. (I'll probably also have to reconcile/rectify my current impulse buying spending habits, which is a whole 'nother story.)
Anyway, I don't want to drum this up more than I already have, which I just did anyway by posting this, but I had to comment on that one.
I would not give our sons a DS just because, but I do sometimes give them kits if they have done well at school, or have been particularly helpful around the home and sometimes even just because it is nice to see the look on their faces when they receive a treat.
I would consider a DS for a birthday or Christmas gift for them in the future provided we were still comfortably off.
I believe there is a difference between spoiling your child occasionally and a spoiled child, and our children are taught right from wrong, to value what they are given, that the treats they receive are exactly that and not an entitlement.
They get treats when they are good and they lose toys/privileges for naughty behaviours and have to earn them back with good behaviour and they are already learning if they want an expensive kit and it's not for birthday or Christmas then they have to help out with chores here to earn money to go towards it.
Oh and no is a word often spoken in this house when repeatedly asking can they have.
I was an only child raised only by my mother and I did not miss out on much, but there were still things in my childhood where I now think I won't do that with our kids or I will make sure they never feel that way etc.
My kids and husband are being spoiled at Christmas this year for very personal reasons on my part, this is my choice and no-one elses business yet no doubt someone in the playground will have an opinion on it come January. I quite simply do not care.
Our children are taught to love and respect others, to treat others as they would like to be treated and to always be helpful if they can and never intentionally do someone a wrong turn or brag or boast about what they have or may be receiving.
I cannot help but think that we all (humans in general not just on here) get so caught up in what everyone else is doing, what everyone else is getting or giving when really all that should concern us is our family and what we are doing etc.
I honestly think that unless others actions directly affect us or our children then really it is none of our business and we should all just let each other get on with it.
I am not suggesting we stop caring about others by any means, but I am pretty sure we all have more important things to think about than who is giving their child a DS and for what reason, I know I do.
I really enjoy reading this thread to see which kits people all think will be retiring etc and the banter about FB but if this thread is going to take a turn to judging others parenting etc then to be honest I would rather stop reading it.
And to be fair there are loads of ways to share ideas and tips without judgement and not necessarily in this thread.
So to be clear, I don't squish kittens, nor punch puppies, regardless of what image this cold text medium paints. I do, however, kill spiders, but only if they come in the house. Outside, it's live and let live.
I think three pages for an off tangent discussion where you have a stalemate is usually the limit isn't it?
EDIT: Sorry it has only been about two pages, carry on.
Every now and then my mom would surprise us though. I would come home on a normal day and there would be something waiting for me. Something I never expected. Something I may have pointed out three or four weeks earlier. She listened, she remembered, and it may have taken her weeks or months, but she got it when she could. No gifts - Christmas, Birthday, or otherwise have ever meant more to me than those random surprises that I never expected. I loved her for it then - I love her even more for it now that I understand fully how difficult it was for her.
And #6860, which was gone, came back, now gone again
LEGO has had stuff on backorder, and then gone, then if you had an order in backorder still you likely missed out.