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  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 866

    Basta said:

    I have never read a Starwars book, so I only know what I know from the 6 movies.

    I suppose my question is, are the Zahn books and the like official? Will the back stories for any releivent new movies use these books as a reference?

    You missed some good reading if you're a SW fan, the first three Zahn books are actually very good and would make amazing movies if they would just do those as the next three films.

    But they won't. :)

    . . .

    The prior poster is correct, the EU books started to fall apart around the time of the prequels, but from 1993 to 1999, there is a ton of great material in there.
    Yeah, I would say the highlights are:

    Zahn's original trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, the Last Command) - set 5 years after ROTJ. From the opening scene with Luke and Ben, it totally captures the essence of the original trilogy. Most importantly, Zahn really understood the characters -- and created a new cast of characters that were equally as memorable and compelling. Thrawn and Pellaeon, Kaarde and Jade. The Noghri. You'll love it. Just keep in mind it was written in 1991-1993 -- well before the prequels.

    Dark Empire -- set 6 years after ROTJ. Six issue comic series published in 1991. This is a little more action-oriented but still exciting. Retreads over familiar ground rather than lay out into new territory, and feels a little more like dated fan fiction, but it was definitely a highlight at the time.

    The various "Tales of . . ." books. There were quite a few - Tales of Mos Eisley Cantina, Tales of Jabba's Palace, etc. Short stories about the various one-off characters. Many were quite good.

    Truce at Bakura and Courtship of Princess Leia. Both single novels but I remember enjoying both quite a bit.

    The X-Wing Series. Very well written.
    jasor
  • hantothantot UKMember Posts: 249
    ^ I'm collecting every book (in hardback) while reading them in order - Enjoyed the early x-wing series hugely along with the Thawn series - In fact I'd say most that I've read are average or better - big exception was Children of the Jedi which I've just read which I found very hard going.
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,939
    I remember reading one trilogy about Correlia which wasn't too bad, and one other trilogy which was just weird. I decided not to bother reading any other SW books after that, until a friend introduced me to the Republic Commando series by Karen Travis.
    At first I thought they would just be awful, video-game tie-in books (like a Halo book I read once, which was totally and utterly pointless), but they turned out to actually have some very good characters and actually a bit of proper sci-fi (ie, dilemmas around cloning, assisted suicide, etc).

    The worst thing is the series was never finished, as the Clone Wars TV series totally destroyed the complex and carefully constructed Mandalorian society that Travis had been building up, and she couldn't be bothered arguing for her version over the others or getting some cheesy 'explanation' to show how they fit together and stay 'canon'.
    LegoFanTexaskhmellymel
  • 91stlegotrooper91stlegotrooper Member Posts: 92
    ^nice
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  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,282
    @GothamConstructionCo - Looks great! One of the best moments of any Star Wars film I think :o)
    GothamConstructionCo
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    @GothamConstructionCo Awesome! :-)

    the empire would really be doing themselves a favor by redesigning those helmets, firstly, there would be a whole lot less headaches from hitting the doors and secondly, maybe they could finally actually hit those rebels. :-)
    GothamConstructionCo
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    I found the new trilogy confusing and I don't think I've sat through the second or third all the way through after the first time. But since I have such infinite amounts of fanboy knowledge at my disposal, I'll delve further.

    So if the clones are clones of Jango Fett, does that mean that, when they went to war, they were only as good at combat as Jango was? They were never "trained" before the war, right? They automatically had his abilities.

    Which then brings up the question of how did they decide who was what rank if they were all on the same level?
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    ^ Some received special ARC training from Jango's hand-picked Mandalorian warriors and later batches of clones received it from the ARC troopers. Correct? alright @CapnRex101 you should know this. ;-)
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850

    @LegoFanTexas - True, although even if they had not been aiming at the droids, a stray blaster bolt would most likely have hit them. It has to make a good story of course.

    And with stormtroopers there are many stray bolts ;-)
  • khmellymelkhmellymel United KingdomMember Posts: 1,234

    until a friend introduced me to the Republic Commando series by Karen Travis.

    If you're a fan of Gears of War and haven't read the books by Karen Travis, I would highly recommend them. I feel like she really "gets" franchise material, which also showed in the Republic Commando series.

    I also really enjoyed Shadows of the Empire, but that takes place between the movies rather than before or after them, so that doesn't exactly count in terms of material that can be used for the new movies/Lego :D

  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    edited August 2013

    Basta said:

    I have never read a Starwars book, so I only know what I know from the 6 movies.

    I suppose my question is, are the Zahn books and the like official? Will the back stories for any releivent new movies use these books as a reference?

    You missed some good reading if you're a SW fan, the first three Zahn books are actually very good and would make amazing movies if they would just do those as the next three films.

    But they won't. :)

    . . .

    The prior poster is correct, the EU books started to fall apart around the time of the prequels, but from 1993 to 1999, there is a ton of great material in there.
    Yeah, I would say the highlights are:

    Zahn's original trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, the Last Command) - set 5 years after ROTJ. From the opening scene with Luke and Ben, it totally captures the essence of the original trilogy. Most importantly, Zahn really understood the characters -- and created a new cast of characters that were equally as memorable and compelling. Thrawn and Pellaeon, Kaarde and Jade. The Noghri. You'll love it. Just keep in mind it was written in 1991-1993 -- well before the prequels.

    Dark Empire -- set 6 years after ROTJ. Six issue comic series published in 1991. This is a little more action-oriented but still exciting. Retreads over familiar ground rather than lay out into new territory, and feels a little more like dated fan fiction, but it was definitely a highlight at the time.

    The various "Tales of . . ." books. There were quite a few - Tales of Mos Eisley Cantina, Tales of Jabba's Palace, etc. Short stories about the various one-off characters. Many were quite good.

    Truce at Bakura and Courtship of Princess Leia. Both single novels but I remember enjoying both quite a bit.

    The X-Wing Series. Very well written.
    I've read all of the EU books that chronologically take place between Truce at Bakura and Apocalypse, and I'd say there are only ten that really stand out as exceptional.

    The original Zahn trilogy is amazing, and I also really enjoyed The Courtship of Princess Leia. The Corellian Trilogy and the three Black Fleet Crisis books are also really good. And truthfully, you can stop there. The books really start to plummet in quality once you get to Vector Prime, where they start relying on 'stunt writing' more than storytelling.

    There are some fairly bad books prior to Vector Prime, but nothing in between The Courtship of Princess Leia and The Corellian Trilogy is truly abysmal, though I'd recommend skipping The Truce at Bakura. That book is nightmarishly bad and almost completely unnecessary.
  • GIR3691GIR3691 Member Posts: 660
    So yeah, those new sets.

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  • 91stlegotrooper91stlegotrooper Member Posts: 92

    ^ Some received special ARC training from Jango's hand-picked Mandalorian warriors and later batches of clones received it from the ARC troopers. Correct? alright @CapnRex101 you should know this. ;-)

    Yeah that is correct.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    I found the new trilogy confusing and I don't think I've sat through the second or third all the way through after the first time. But since I have such infinite amounts of fanboy knowledge at my disposal, I'll delve further.

    So if the clones are clones of Jango Fett, does that mean that, when they went to war, they were only as good at combat as Jango was? They were never "trained" before the war, right? They automatically had his abilities.

    Which then brings up the question of how did they decide who was what rank if they were all on the same level?

    No, that is not correct. The Kamino clones were trained in real time, over 10 years. They are not all the same, even being genetic clones, and they don't have Jango's memories or knowledge.

    The Spaarti flash trained clones do, rather they have the memories and knowledge and skills of whatever trooper was used as a template (Jango was dead by then).

    Regarding the Kamino clones, some were better than others, those went on to receive Commando training, others were hand picked and went on to receive ARC training (Advanced Recon Commando) training.

    The first batch of ARC troopers, 100 in all, were directly trained by Jango himself, and elite troopers they were indeed. One man armies all rolled into one.

    Normal Commandos worked in 4 man teams, and the rest of the troopers were divided up into normal military units.
  • murphquakemurphquake Member Posts: 651
    @GIR3691 LMFAO!
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    I've seen the chibi landspeeder, which I think is really cool, but wouldn't a chibi Millenium Falcon look too much like a Mc Donald's toy? Same thing with the star destroyer. Actually, same thing with all of them. (There, I'm back on topic.)
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    While they do look somewhat juvenile compared to System sets, I don't think they look like Happy Meal toys. There are photos out there, so feel free to judge them yourself.
  • Firox5000Firox5000 Member Posts: 60
    Having just looked on the Internet I. Regards to info and pics of the 2014 Star Wars I have found out some more information about them.

    The millenium falcon, X wing, Tie fighter, Clone Tank, AAT and imperial star destroyer are small looking sets of mini versions of selected Star Wars vehicles and come with a figure included that can sit I. The vehicles. I find the idea an interesting one but it does look quite strange though with the figure having a space to sit on the models.

    In terms of the other models, the battle packs look very interesting and are the best looking ones I've seen for at least 2 years. The Death Star trooper one looks very good. The battle packs appear a fraction larger perhaps which does worry me fora other price hike.

    In terms of the other sets currently, the ATAP was already announced and looks an interesting set and decent remake which I expect to be around £60 when released. The droid gunship looks similar to the 2008 one however with noticeable improvements in terms of design.

    The general grievous wheel looks an interesting one and a long overdue one at most.

    As for the vulture droid, V wing and interceptor, I currently don't have much interested in them at the moment as they resemble recent models too much and space for Lego now is very limited.
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    There's already a thread for this with discreet references to links showing the pics. :-)
  • charlieboycharlieboy Member Posts: 29
    Can you direct me to the links showing the pics, I must have missed it!
  • epyon396epyon396 Member Posts: 268
    There wasn't a single set that I was interested in :(
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    I've seen a pic of the 2014 grievous and he appears to be white instead of tan and he also has different printing on his face, more accurate to the film.

    btw, does anyone know when we will be seeing more pics of the new sets?
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    Here are some pics of some of the new star wars minifigures.
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  • 91stlegotrooper91stlegotrooper Member Posts: 92
    I like the look of those minifigures. Where did you obtain the pictures?
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,282
    HothBricks and BrickFan are publishing many of these photos first, so your best bet would be to check there.

    The Minifigures look great to me (although I wish Grievous had his cape), I only hope that the sets can live up to the same standard.
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    @90stlegotrooper I got them from Hoth Bricks.

    @CapnRex101 I agree, these figures are looking awesome so far! I'm really looking forward to getting the Droid gunship.
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    Aaaghh.. helmet... not... on... straight... must avert gaze... OCD...

    :o)
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  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    edited October 2013
    Great printing on grievous, the eyes on the CW one were lame. I don't like the Kashyyyk trooper helmet at all, the upper part looks way too prominent.
    Jonn420
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    More pics of Grievous. image
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  • TncatsfanTncatsfan Member Posts: 92
    Awesome. Any word on a cape or not?
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    ^ Not that I know of. According to the prelim pics and this figure (which I'm assuming is the finished product as it was a factory 'leaked' figure) I think its safe to say there won't be any cape :-(
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    They'd have to come up with a new cape design to fit this minifig, doubt that will happen.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,154
    edited October 2013
    Didn't they come up with a new cape for Elrond from #5000202? Then forgot to put it in the poly and put the silly little one instead. They also used the longer one for Shredder.
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    Yes, but the attachment is the same on all of them. That can't be used on this particular MF.
  • tmgm528tmgm528 Member Posts: 454
    Well the figs look quite good! (Except the Kashyyk Troopers *Eyes* Look Odd) One must wonder what sets they will be in? Perhaps more ROTS? Possibly an ARK Fighter, Kashyyk Battle Maybe some new wookies, and Maybe GG Could be in a new utapau? (Sorry My Nerdy Hopes Catching Up To Me.)
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    @tmgm528 The Kashyyyk troopers will be included in the Kashyyyk troopers battle pack and the Droid gunship. And yes, we are getting new Wookies too :-) General Grievous will be included in the General Grievous's wheel bike set.
  • tmgm528tmgm528 Member Posts: 454

    @tmgm528 The Kashyyyk troopers will be included in the Kashyyyk troopers battle pack and the Droid gunship. And yes, we are getting new Wookies too :-) General Grievous will be included in the General Grievous's wheel bike set.

    :D Now why won't they just make us some KOTOR Sets! (Sorry Lego/Star Wars Rage) :P
    rancorbait
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    edited October 2013
    As far as prequels go, i'm amazed they haven't created the Arena Battle yet.

    Not so much the droids vs clones & gunships bit, but the preceding part - execution sequence with the giant beasties and baying insect-y guys (can't remember names right now).

    i.e. Anakin, Obi Wan, Padme vs the three giant monsters, with 'central columns' they're chained to, and some arena wall/gateway with bad guys looking on.

    It could even (optionally) be created as 3 individual sets, that could be combined to make a bigger scene... perhaps with a 4th set that acts as scene builder battlepack thing (i.e. some more arena wall, with generic characters such as battledroids, clones, insecty guys), which you could if bought several of 'close the circle' of the arena and create an epic enclosed scene.

    I don't go for Prequel sets much, but that i'd buy into.
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    edited October 2013
    Hopefully they are saving the arena for a large playset, I don't want to see a set with a small beast, a pole with a MF, a speck of sand or a bit of arena wall and a random MF that's not even in that scene.
  • turtle1173turtle1173 Member Posts: 230
    If they do that set, whether large or small, we can be assured that it will have flick fire missiles :-)
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    Oh baby! Look at that Wookie!
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  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 949
    ^ About time that species got an upgrade.
  • TheOneVeyronianTheOneVeyronian Help me, I'm inside the M25! (UK)Member Posts: 1,360
    ^^^^^ Weirdly, I was thinking about a Lego version of that exact same sequence yesterday.

    ^^ Oh yes! I so need that Wookiee so badly! Is that the one that appears in #75043 by any chance? Come on 2014! :-)
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    The wookie is fantastic, only wished the hair could be removed, it would be a great start to a predator minifig. :))
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    ^ All his hair, or just on his head? Because if you could remove all his hair you would have one naked Wookie! :-P
    vitreolumjasor
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    Just the dreads. :)) Unless the predator has some hidden fur somewhere else.
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    edited October 2013
    vitreolum said:

    Hopefully they are saving the arena for a large playset, I don't want to see a set with a small beast, a pole with a MF, a speck of sand or a bit of arena wall and a random MF that's not even in that scene.

    @vitreolum

    No no, I totally want them to make a crappy set with rubbish builds and utterly pointless figs. Lol

    */sarcasm* :oD

    Well yes, it kinda' goes without saying when describing scenes we'd like to see done, we envision them with scene-appropriate figs and well-scaled monsters/builds. I simply meant to describe the scene they hadn't done yet, not indicate size of sets (except to say if it was split up (for whatever reason) it would still combine for an epic scene).

    :o)
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    edited October 2013
    You misunderstood, I didn't assume from your comment that you want them to make what I described, I simply described what they usually produce in terms of small scale sets. :))
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