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The Hobbit 2013 Sets

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  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    ^I've heard from several sources that LotR is done which does seem to make some sense given the original plan of two films. And, though I really disliked a lot of the models, it's going to be a real shame that they never got around to the minifigs you listed, especially given the 'well beyond the point of necessary' repetition of Aragorn and Gimli.
  • emilewskiemilewski CT, USAMember Posts: 476
    I am still thinking there will be one more wave. They have had ample time to come up with one more wave for mid-year 2014 and it seems like a wasted opportunity for them to not follow through with it. And I have to believe that something Gondor would have been part of the original planned run of sets.
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,435
    ^
    I agree with everyone who has advocated that Lego should do a 'better' job, with respect to developing more sets, and to include more new characters, which every Lego Tolkien fan wants to have as part of their collection. What I do not get is why so many people are so negative about the sets which thus far have been released.

    Of the seven sets from the first wave of LOTR Lego, in my opinion, 5 sets were outstanding:
    - The smallest set: 'Gandalf arrives' #9469 is excellent. Everything from the scene it depict is present. The horse drawn cart is well executed, the minifigs are very good. No complaints on my part.
    - The second smallest set: 'Shelob attacks' #9470 is a fun brick-build monster set. The two minifigs Frodo and Sam are excellent too.
    - #9471 is fantastic expansion set to Helmsdeep. In The Netherlands this set costs €39,99 at [email protected], and most other chains of toyshops, some sell it for even more (it is not a ponzi, yet it reeks of extortion). You get six minifigs, a horse, a siege engine, and a wall segment, at €40 not really cheap (especially in comparison to pricelevels of this set in other countries), still good value for money. Apart from Eomer, all other five minifigs are generic, and great for army building, if that is your thing.
    - #9472 Attack on weathertop, incorporates interesting building techniques. Like all other LOTR sets, no BURP's, only small bricks. Fantastic set. Could it have been made bigger. Hell yeah! Couldn't TLC have included a third ring-wraith on horse back, sure, if you ask me. That is if you insist on getting the nine ring-wraiths, you would have only needed to buy the set three times in stead of five times. Still an outstanding set, which had I been in charge of design and development would have included an extra ring-wraith with horse, but alas.
    - #9474 'The Battle of Helmsdeep' is a great castle set, true to the way it looks in the movie. Of course rendering it in the scale as seen in the movie is impossible to capture in a set, but for what you get it is really well done. Does it leave anything to desire? Plenty! Which has everything to do with the immense scale of that location in movie/book, and hence all the extra details which, if you want to incorporate, you have to design yourself. Yet another Gimli, is understandable from a true to movie standpoint, yet still redundant. I rather would have had an extra Rohan archer, or better yet two Elven soldiers to accompany Haldir.

    Of the two sets, that fall behind from the first wave: #9473 'Mines of Moria' is a minifig bonanza, yet it lacks something with regard to the mine itself.Though is contains all the essential thingies from the location: tomb, well, barricaded door etc. I am hard-pressed offering the solution for this €80 set, without upscaling it in brickcount as well as pricelevel. The minifigs are a blast though! #9476, is way too expensive €49,99 (in NL) for a set that only has four minifigs, and has such a low brickcount, as well as one orc without a hairpiece, that makes him look unfinished.

    The choices made for wave two are curious, but not too bad. The Council of Elrond, begs for another future Rivendell set to be developed.

    Thus far, of all Hobbit sets released I like all the minifigs a lot, they are magnificent for the most part, Bag End as a set is adorable. And so is the goblin King set imo. The tree from Warg attack, suffers from a lack of foliage, and does not offer ample space for a company of fifteen seeking refuge from bloodthirsty wargs and orcs. The upcoming Hobbit sets seems promising.

    I hope the second wave of LOTR won't be the last, nor do I hope that an upcoming third LOTR wave will be the last either. I have no proof to offer for the contrary of all those who claim that LOTR/Hobbit sells poorly, yet I often wonder if there is any fact in support of what those brickset members say, when they slate and dismiss this most magnificent licensed Lego theme ever, and state that it is dead and done for. I really deplore all the pessimism! Cheer up! Up until a year and a half ago you could only dream of such a thing as actual LOTR/Hobbit Lego! Lets hope that like the Superheroes, Harry Potter, and Star Wars, it will continue for a long time to come.

    ps.
    @Bumblepants
    No worries!
    Beorn is in both upcoming movie installments for the Hobbit.
    TheLoneTensoralexwildannyrwwmdellemanklatu003thenosdougtstmgm528
  • kezkez United KingdomMember Posts: 831
    Lo and behold, these amazing sets in all their glory, you can find the high res non watermarked images here http://shop.brixit.se/nytt-hobbit-2014/ :-D
    TheOneVeyronianTheBigLegoskiJosephkhmellymelPoochythenosicey117rancorbaitDark_Pegasus
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,395
    I like the new hobbit sets now that I see them up close.... trying to afford them on the other hand. Also of note...we certainly have enough orcs, dwarves, and elves to start the battle of the five armies. The army of men should be easy enought o fake from other castle minifigs and some lord of the rings ones. Need more wargs... and eagles would be nice.
  • TheOneVeyronianTheOneVeyronian Help me, I'm inside the M25! (UK)Member Posts: 1,372
    I love the new orc armour, it is very cool. My December (or whenever these sets come out) is now suddenly looking very expensive indeed! :-) Was gonna get away with Dol Guldur Battle and Mirkwood Elf army, but the orc hair being only in Dol Guldur ambush... :-S Time to bite the bullet I guess!

    Interesting to note that there appears to be no 'entry level' £12 set in this wave, wonder why that might be?

    And Azog... now I can see the high-res sets, it IS definitely exactly the same as the SDCC version, hand deformity and all. Great news for us (I'm over the moon! :-D ), maybe not so great news for the guy/gal who paid $1650 for one back in July!
    andhe
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,491
    I was hoping we'd see the dwarves turn up in the second wave of sets, but guess this would have caused moans from people about not getting enough new figures, so you can't please everyone.

    They all look a bit 'samey'. Even though LOTR Weathertop was just rocks and ruins somehow it seemed to be a complete set. These look a little 'back drop ish'. Expect them to be bought for MOC fodder and parting the figs out.

    I can't see kids clammering for these over the new Ninjago line or Chima.
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,435
    @andhe
    Well a new version of Thorin, one of the thirteen dwarves, is included in Laketown Chase. Ergo; do not despair ;-)

    I suppose the kids clammering over Ninjago/Chima, probably have not watched the movies. And those kids who prefer these themes, may equally prefer Ninjago/Chima over something like StarWars Lego too. But if, say, ten year old kids won't be allowed to see The hobbit movies, it is probably because a bunch of schmucky senile old nitwittery farts seated on one of these stale motion picture rating system boards, have determined to do so. Because otherwise, hordes of kids might very well covet these Hobbit sets.
  • HardradaHardrada Member Posts: 439
    I think these 3 sets are really poor as sets. Just boring half-baked walls with minimal character and ambience.

    Btw has anyone noticed what happened to Thranduil's ears? That's how you ruin an otherwise great headpiece.
    klatu003
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    I'm not excited either, the minifigs are great but the builds are completely uninteresting, thrown together in haste.... Hopefully they'll look better built. I'm getting tired of sets that include a bit of wall and the same lame functions over and over again.
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    What I really like about these sets (besides the figures :-) ) is that all the rock is brick-built, looks so much better than BURPs.
  • ludzikludzik US (SoCal)Member Posts: 430
    Hmmm new shields..... kinda like 'em
  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 873
    Article on The Brick Fan suggests that LOTR sets are coming, but I am skeptical. First, the list sounds an awful lot like a wishlist. Second, I don't understand what is actually "built" in the supposed $60 set.

    http://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-lord-rings-2014-preliminary-set-names-details/
    BumblepantsTheBigLegoskiicey117
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    edited October 2013

    Article on The Brick Fan suggests that LOTR sets are coming, but I am skeptical. First, the list sounds an awful lot like a wishlist. Second, I don't understand what is actually "built" in the supposed $60 set.

    http://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-lord-rings-2014-preliminary-set-names-details/


    Pinch me, i must be dreaming!
    Too good to be true? Perhaps. But if they do it, and do it well, BOOM. LotR fans would be all over those sets...

    just...

    needs...

    ...*whispers* battlepacks.


    edit: and BALROG.
    TheBigLegoskiicey117HarryPotterLover
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    If those sets come to be, I'd be elated. Even if the sets were terrible, the minifig parts would be enough to create most of what was necessary for a proper LotR set.

    Two things troubling about that post, though... Amon Hen has nothing to do with the Palantir... and a $120 Minas Tirith would necessarily be as underwhelming as a $130 Helm's Deep. I was really hoping if Minas Tirith saw the light of day, it would be a D2C set. Still, the prospect of those minifigs has me quite hopeful.
    cardgenius
  • TheMurmurTheMurmur Member Posts: 90

    Article on The Brick Fan suggests that LOTR sets are coming, but I am skeptical. First, the list sounds an awful lot like a wishlist. Second, I don't understand what is actually "built" in the supposed $60 set.

    http://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-lord-rings-2014-preliminary-set-names-details/

    I would assume the Fell beast may be brick built, which could be cool, although they molded the eagle so who knows. As for the "ranger in the Osgiliath set, I would hope it is Faramir.
  • TheOneVeyronianTheOneVeyronian Help me, I'm inside the M25! (UK)Member Posts: 1,372
    If these set names are true, then I'm pretty stoked for a Fell Beast! :-D *crosses fingers and toes*
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,435
    @hoyatables
    "built" I think probably means that it will be one of the 'mega-mini-creatures' (or what ever the preferred nomenclature in Legology is, to refer to such 'fantasy' animals) like the Red Dragon from #70403 or the Green Dragon from the #7048 Lego-set. Which means it will be brick-build with lots of articulation points; as the tail is comprised of three parts; the two wings need to be mounted using some technic pins, and other parts; the head with movable jaws, and neck are separate parts; the body has four movable limbs (mmmh the fellbeast does not have an extra set of arms, like the Lego castle dragons), but in that case won't be brick build the way some people desire, as I believe I have seen someone post a fellbeast on Cuussoo. This project I think:
    http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/41453

    Since All nine Nazgul had their own HellHawk, you better go buy that set nine times! Doooh!

    I hope the 'Amon Hen ambush' has a new and improved Lurtz, with bow and quiver, and a proper (NEW!) uruk-hai hairpiece, with a ponytail on top of its head, and small pointy ears, with can be worn in combination with a quiver, similar to thorin, and Fili, and Kili's hairpiece. I am sort of wondering why they chose only Merry (if it is merry) to be included in that set.

    I hope Faramir will get his own little set (e.g. a Forbidden Pool set), and that the Ranger in the Osgiliath set is generic. That way, if you buy the set twice, or as some people do, a manifold of that you don't end up with an army of Faramirs.
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,435
    @legomatt
    LOL
    That was very Cartmanish.....
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    Doesn't it seem kind of strange that there was no Denethor mentioned in the Minas Tirith set? If it was an official set you'd think they would include him.

    These all sounds like great sets and I really hope TLG is making them, but I'm not going to set myself up for disappointment, as these sets would be so awesome!

    I'm just going to wait for more solid info.
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair London, UKMember Posts: 2,697
    People who paid £1000's for "Azog SDCC Minifigure" will be angry!
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    ^ Indeed! Maybe it will teach 'em a little patience too.
  • vwong19vwong19 San DiegoMember Posts: 1,188
    ^^ Some people put a premium on packaging...

    I feel better about collecting LOR/Hobbit minifigures now.
    kylejohnson11yys4u
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    Just so long as the fell beast isn't simply a recoloring of this...

  • icey117icey117 DenmarkMember Posts: 509
    edited October 2013

    Article on The Brick Fan suggests that LOTR sets are coming, but I am skeptical. First, the list sounds an awful lot like a wishlist. Second, I don't understand what is actually "built" in the supposed $60 set.

    http://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-lord-rings-2014-preliminary-set-names-details/

    Ah, this makes perfectly sense to finish the theme this way. If it's true, the LOTR theme is done well enough for me. (Though i still dream about oliphaunts.)

    That said, I gotta say that the set "Amon Hen Ambush" seems pretty misplaced. I mean, it's the first set in this theme that hasn't got any minifigs to attract purchasers and collecters - it's a 25$ set. Doesn't sound like the LEGO strategy. That does make the list a bit suspicious, don't you think?
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,435
    On the other hand 'built' may; as it should, indicate that the Fellbeast is completely brick-build, just like Shelob, and the spiders from set #79001.
    (which means: what I wrote in my previous post with regard to this is just a bunch of nonsense)

    @tensor
    Yeah, lets hope that it is not just that red dragon recoloured. That would be quite a letdown if TLG did that. It is a nice dragon but it is not even remotely close to what a Fellbeast is supposed to look like.

    I would not mind an entirely brick-build Nazgul-bird. That Fellbeast Cuusoo design looks quite nice. Except, I would prefer some alterations. To the head, for a start, to give it eyes, a face which will add to the menacing character and ferocity of the monster, it might need some specially molded pieces for that, and so forth....
  • cardgeniuscardgenius Member Posts: 153
    edited October 2013
    These would be awesome. It really would be a shame if they ended the line now. Still disappointed that there is no Sauron.

    As for the Fell Beast, a brick built one wild be a shame since the model they made for the video game was looked good. Not a perfect model but I think it would be pretty good. Definitely better than brick built, IMO
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    Shelob was brick built, so it would make sense for it to be that way. Especially since there's nothing else mentioned to be in the set aside from the minifigs and the beast. And that small grassy are which will surely not make the set 60$.

    And I'd rather have that than a black castle dragon torso with new head and tail.
    icey117
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,395
    I hope these are true... if they are we will get Galadriel, the witch Kings, and possibly Faramir and Eowyn (it would be insane if that was not the case)...with that my Lord of the rings minifigure wish list would be complete.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950

    Still disappointed that there is no Sauron.

    At least he's in the Hobbit sets ;)

  • cardgeniuscardgenius Member Posts: 153
    Yeah but the Shelob was a $20 set, not $60. At that price, it better be damn impressive if it's gonna be brick built.
    Diggydoes
  • cardgeniuscardgenius Member Posts: 153
    tensor said:

    Still disappointed that there is no Sauron.

    At least he's in the Hobbit sets ;)

    It's just not the same though. :(
  • icey117icey117 DenmarkMember Posts: 509

    Yeah but the Shelob was a $20 set, not $60. At that price, it better be damn impressive if it's gonna be brick built.

    Maybe it includes a piece of wall for Minas Tiris.

  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    ^ I seriously hope they don't include another bloody piece of wall. I'd rather have a pile of fell beast dung than another wall.
  • DiggydoesDiggydoes Cologne/GermanyMember Posts: 1,079
    A real working trebuchet would be nice and a good alternative to more wall pieces/catapults!
  • TheMurmurTheMurmur Member Posts: 90
    Or one of the mobile towers of orcs...
    Diggydoes
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    ^ And don't forget about Grond :-)
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,834
    y2josh said:



    Two things troubling about that post, though... Amon Hen has nothing to do with the Palantir... and a $120 Minas Tirith would necessarily be as underwhelming as a $130 Helm's Deep. I was really hoping if Minas Tirith saw the light of day, it would be a D2C set. Still, the prospect of those minifigs has me quite hopeful.

    It also says ...

    Includes the Witch King, Theoden, a Rider of Rohan (Eowyn), a white horse, and a Nazgul

    I don't see why you would need the Witch King and another Nazgul in that set.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,834
    It looks like the new Mirkwood elves are quite different to the guards, although same head and hood. There is some nice torso and arm printing going on there.
  • HardradaHardrada Member Posts: 439
    edited October 2013
    CCC said:



    It also says ...

    Includes the Witch King, Theoden, a Rider of Rohan (Eowyn), a white horse, and a Nazgul

    I don't see why you would need the Witch King and another Nazgul in that set.

    He meant Fell Beast instead of Nazgul. Later he claimed that there is a white spot in its place on the prelim box art so it will be molded.

    Or would if this was a real list which I highly doubt. Looks much more like a wish list, it's simply too good to be true unfortunately.
    CCC
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,834
    ^ OK, thanks!
  • PdyxPdyx Member Posts: 8
    edited October 2013
    No Smaug? That's...surprising. Right? Could there be one more big set they haven't shown yet?
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    Pdyx said:

    No Smaug? That's...surprising. Right? Could there be one more big set they haven't shown yet?

    Beyond the initial encounter with Bilbo, I wouldn't be surprised if Smaug is mostly absent in this film. I fully expect the attack on Laketown to happen in the next film.
  • icey117icey117 DenmarkMember Posts: 509
    Pdyx said:

    No Smaug? That's...surprising. Right? Could there be one more big set they haven't shown yet?

    This last list was "Lord of the Rings". We haven't had any news about a "last" Hobbit wave, in which the dragon will most certainly be included. That is... if we get a last wave.
  • icey117icey117 DenmarkMember Posts: 509
    But seriously... three Hobbit movies... three waves of LEGO Hobbit sets, right? And... three LOTR movies... three waves of LEGO LOTR sets.

    It makes sense wouldn't you agree??? ;-)
    andhe
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,491
    icey117 said:

    But seriously... three Hobbit movies... three waves of LEGO Hobbit sets, right? And... three LOTR movies... three waves of LEGO LOTR sets.

    It makes sense wouldn't you agree??? ;-)

    I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but The Hobbit was originally planned as two movies, and so I'm guessing two waves of sets. Hence why the Mirkwood and Barrel escape sets were labeled as 'preview sets', as I guess they were already in production, despite their scenes being moved from the end of the 1st movie, to the beginning of the 2nd.

    Now the question is whether TLG have amended their release schedule to fit in with the movie releases. If so, we could very well see another wave next fall/autumn to tie in with the final movie, if not then these new sets would tie in with what was supposed to be the 2nd and final Hobbit film. Though things seem to point to another final LOTR and Hobbit waves the end of next year.
  • jockosjunglejockosjungle Member Posts: 701
    They'd be pretty daft not to do tie-in sets for all three movies. Not convinced on the LOTR sets, it just sounds like someone has made them up tbh based on what they could think of. Boromir on steps seems pretty boring tbh and sounds a little like fans racking their brains for potential sets.
  • tmgm528tmgm528 Member Posts: 457
    As long as at some point I get my Sauron Figure Il be happy :)
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734

    Not convinced on the LOTR sets, it just sounds like someone has made them up tbh based on what they could think of. Boromir on steps seems pretty boring tbh and sounds a little like fans racking their brains for potential sets.

    If that were the case, the list would surely favor sets based on the Forbidden Pool (to provide Faramir), Edoras (to provide Eowyn), and the Balrog, and would include Denethor in the Minas Tirith set.

    As minifigures go, I'm satisfied with the Fellowship. It would be nice to get all three bearers of the Elven rings, but if Galadriel isn't produced, I won't be too disappointed. Sauron as he appeared at the Last Alliance in FOTR would be nice, but underwhelming as a minifigure.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,979
    Now see, if Galadriel was not produced, I would be very disappointed. :-)
    I simply can't imagine the sets done without Galadriel.

    I am really hoping that set name is correct, just for that minifig.

    I still wish for a Rivendell and I always wanted LothLorien, but the later will never happen. I assume there will be a large Smaug set with the 3rd movie release next year.
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